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Offline majesticseagull

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best topre keyboard for Linux and colemak
« on: Tue, 15 March 2016, 18:02:58 »
Hi my model M died just recently, and I was thinking of replacing it with a HHKB, but I then read this http://xahlee.info/kbd/idiocy_of_happy_hacking_keyboard.html and a lot of the points made sense to me. I have the money get a really cool keyboard right now, and would love to get a topre board. I'm not sure which one would be right for me though, and if I'm going to drop 200 plus dollars I want it to be perfect. I mostly use Linux, and I'm always in the terminal and using emacs, plus I type with colemak instead of qwerty. If anyone could give me a few suggestions or share their experiences with the HHKB or any other topre keyboard it would help out a lot.


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Re: best topre keyboard for Linux and colemak
« Reply #1 on: Tue, 15 March 2016, 18:08:20 »
It's not for everyone. Just get a Realforce.
But considering all the praise the HHKB gets, the complaints are very, very minimal.
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Re: best topre keyboard for Linux and colemak
« Reply #2 on: Tue, 15 March 2016, 18:12:54 »
All i can say is having used Cherry MX for years i fell in love instantly with 55G Realforce.
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Offline majesticseagull

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Re: best topre keyboard for Linux and colemak
« Reply #3 on: Tue, 15 March 2016, 18:27:42 »
Well I think I will probably go for the Realforce 87U Tenkeyless 55g, once I can find one. My model m was my first mechanic keyboard any thoughts on what I'm in for switching to a topre board?
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Re: best topre keyboard for Linux and colemak
« Reply #4 on: Tue, 15 March 2016, 18:35:15 »
that has to be the ugliest ****ing site i've ever seen
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Re: best topre keyboard for Linux and colemak
« Reply #5 on: Tue, 15 March 2016, 19:22:00 »
Quote from: demik on Tue, 15 March 2016, 18:35:15
that has to be the ugliest ****ing site i've ever seen
This.

I also find it funny they don't mention that you can swap delete and backspace, and that their reasoning for needing arrow keys is to play Pacman on a Google Doodle.
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Offline demik

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Re: best topre keyboard for Linux and colemak
« Reply #6 on: Tue, 15 March 2016, 19:25:26 »
Quote from: piemancoder on Tue, 15 March 2016, 19:22:00
Quote from: demik on Tue, 15 March 2016, 18:35:15
that has to be the ugliest ****ing site i've ever seen
This.

I also find it funny they don't mention that you can swap delete and backspace, and that their reasoning for needing arrow keys is to play Pacman on a Google Doodle.

or the blatant lie that it doesnt have function keys. is he blind?

does it have DEDICATED F keys? no, it doesn't. it's in the fn layer for the number keys. dude needs to learn to use his words.
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Re: best topre keyboard for Linux and colemak
« Reply #7 on: Tue, 15 March 2016, 20:54:29 »
Quote from: demik on Tue, 15 March 2016, 19:25:26
Quote from: piemancoder on Tue, 15 March 2016, 19:22:00
Quote from: demik on Tue, 15 March 2016, 18:35:15
that has to be the ugliest ****ing site i've ever seen
This.

I also find it funny they don't mention that you can swap delete and backspace, and that their reasoning for needing arrow keys is to play Pacman on a Google Doodle.

or the blatant lie that it doesnt have function keys. is he blind?

does it have DEDICATED F keys? no, it doesn't. it's in the fn layer for the number keys. dude needs to learn to use his words.
This too.

We need an opposite of this where it explains the good things about the HHKB.
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Offline davkol

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Re: best topre keyboard for Linux and colemak
« Reply #8 on: Thu, 17 March 2016, 16:09:02 »
Xah Lee is correct in a way, if you look around for [his] other articles, e.g., on history of Emacs bindings. HHKB is designed for a software environment entirely different from modern systems. If you use just a terminal emulator and Emacs, as they were intended, HHKB might be fine to a certain extent.

The point is, you can do much better than ANSI HHKB or direct Model-M clone. JIS HHKB is one possible step in that direction.
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