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Offline Keycap

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Favorite spring for Cherry MX Clears?
« on: Tue, 19 April 2016, 11:24:31 »
If you are a fan of Cherry MX Clears, what is your favorite spring weighting for them?

Personally, my favorite spring to use in a Cherry MX Clear switch is the standard Cherry MX Black spring. This may also be referred as the Panda Clear mod. It feels so refined, consistent and light (compared to stock Clears), and it's heavy enough to prevent bottoming out without the force quickly rising up to 95cN. The tactile bump also has a very defined drop in force, while the stock MX Clear switch has less of a drop and more of a sharp increase of force that feels very awkward in my opinion.

I've yet to try any aftermarket springs that use the Korean scale though, and the gold-plated springs look fancy :)

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Re: Favorite spring for Cherry MX Clears?
« Reply #1 on: Tue, 19 April 2016, 11:25:41 »
I've always liked the stock mx clear springs.

But it's important to learn to not bottom out on them.

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Re: Favorite spring for Cherry MX Clears?
« Reply #2 on: Tue, 19 April 2016, 11:29:07 »
My issue with Stock clears is that they feel like there's no tactility if you hit them off-center. They have lots of friction but they feel better with a lighter spring.

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Re: Favorite spring for Cherry MX Clears?
« Reply #3 on: Wed, 20 April 2016, 16:37:45 »
I have weak fingers and I prefer Brown springs on MX clears.  It just makes it much easier and comfortable (for me) when I have those long typing sessions.

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Re: Favorite spring for Cherry MX Clears?
« Reply #4 on: Wed, 20 April 2016, 16:56:54 »
I just swapped in some 72g springs I got from SPRiT a while ago.  So far I'm liking it.  Just a tad lighter than stock.

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Re: Favorite spring for Cherry MX Clears?
« Reply #5 on: Sat, 23 April 2016, 11:35:13 »
I've got 62g gold springs in mine and I love them. Totally changed my mind about clears with a spring swap.


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Re: Favorite spring for Cherry MX Clears?
« Reply #6 on: Sun, 24 April 2016, 10:54:49 »
Stock. Clears are always better lubed.
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Re: Favorite spring for Cherry MX Clears?
« Reply #7 on: Sun, 24 April 2016, 11:03:01 »
I'm a fan of 65g or stock clears.

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Re: Favorite spring for Cherry MX Clears?
« Reply #8 on: Sun, 24 April 2016, 12:20:18 »
78g springs, i.e., same as stock, but less stiff.

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Re: Favorite spring for Cherry MX Clears?
« Reply #9 on: Tue, 26 April 2016, 12:32:09 »
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Re: Favorite spring for Cherry MX Clears?
« Reply #10 on: Tue, 26 April 2016, 14:26:58 »
I swapped in springs from Browns since everywhere I looked was out of the good 62g springs at the time.  The cherry brown springs have a slightly lower bottom out force than the 62g springs, and I'm really liking it so far.  Some people have said they have issues with the keys not rebounding properly, but I haven't experienced this.  I did lube my stabs, though.  One thing I'd do differently if I were to do this again would be to put a slightly stiffer spring in the spacebar--maybe a 68g or something like that.

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Re: Favorite spring for Cherry MX Clears?
« Reply #11 on: Tue, 26 April 2016, 16:01:07 »
Lubed stock.
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Re: Favorite spring for Cherry MX Clears?
« Reply #12 on: Tue, 26 April 2016, 16:05:07 »
Lubes abd in the 67-72g range, though I prefer 68g.  Less than that and you run the risk of sticking, more and you lose tactility and, IMO, it's less comfortable to type with.

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Re: Favorite spring for Cherry MX Clears?
« Reply #13 on: Thu, 28 April 2016, 05:23:54 »
I use brown springs (I simply modded my browns with clear stems) and I really like that setup. I have weak fingers an even blues get really tiring for me after a while.

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Re: Favorite spring for Cherry MX Clears?
« Reply #14 on: Thu, 28 April 2016, 14:04:47 »
I currently have 62g bottom out in my clears but have been thinking of using MX black springs. Deskthority has them at 60g actuation with the clears stock at 55g actuation. This seems to contradict what OP said about black springs being lighter...

Anyone know why?

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Re: Favorite spring for Cherry MX Clears?
« Reply #15 on: Thu, 28 April 2016, 15:42:02 »
Interested in this as well. Currently using stock clears, but I'd like the bump to be a little more pronounced. I feel like slightly lighter springs might help.


But it's important to learn to not bottom out on them.

This is true. My experience with clears is much better when I type a little softer than normal. Usually I bottom out so hard.

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Re: Favorite spring for Cherry MX Clears?
« Reply #16 on: Thu, 28 April 2016, 17:14:00 »
I currently have 62g bottom out in my clears but have been thinking of using MX black springs. Deskthority has them at 60g actuation with the clears stock at 55g actuation. This seems to contradict what OP said about black springs being lighter...

Anyone know why?
Black springs are definitely lighter than clears.

From the Deskthority wiki:

There is a dip at the tactile point (65 cN), below which resistance increases sharply up to around 95 cN at the bottom. Typists who are not used to the switch may feel this tiring. However, proponents of the switch claim that the high resistance cushions the stroke helping you to avoid bottoming out, and that would be beneficial to the fingers in the long term.

Just read the 'tactile force' as 'actuation force' there.
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I say to both bunches, Whether you're a majority or minority, bug off! To hell with anybody who wants to tell me what to write. Their society breaks down into subsections of minorities who then, in effect, burn books by banning them. All this political correctness that's rampant on campuses is b.s.

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