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Offline Chau

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YES keyboard
« on: Thu, 21 April 2016, 16:30:28 »
Any info on this KB would be much appreciated.
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Offline klennkellon

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Re: YES keyboard
« Reply #1 on: Thu, 21 April 2016, 17:14:47 »
It looks a lot like a bigfoot/AT101

what switches?
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« Reply #2 on: Thu, 21 April 2016, 17:21:01 »
Thats a Focus FK-555 (or atleast looks like it), a very nice keyboard, probably has Blue Alps. Those are worth a lot of money. Nice find  :)  Is the back of the keyboard made of metal?
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Re: YES keyboard
« Reply #3 on: Thu, 21 April 2016, 18:01:57 »
Quote from: klennkellon on Thu, 21 April 2016, 17:14:47
It looks a lot like a bigfoot/AT101

what switches?
No, if you'll noticed you can see it has an Omnikey-like lock-like bridge, and the ridge is much taller than a Bigfoot. Should be a Focus FK-555, the board that appears to be the forerunner of the Omnikey.

Should be blue Alps or possibly even cyan Omrons.

Do you have this keyboard already or are you still eyeing it? If the latter, get it!
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Re: YES keyboard
« Reply #4 on: Thu, 21 April 2016, 18:20:04 »
Quote from: chyros on Thu, 21 April 2016, 18:01:57
Quote from: klennkellon on Thu, 21 April 2016, 17:14:47
It looks a lot like a bigfoot/AT101

what switches?
No, if you'll noticed you can see it has an Omnikey-like lock-like bridge, and the ridge is much taller than a Bigfoot. Should be a Focus FK-555, the board that appears to be the forerunner of the Omnikey.

Should be blue Alps or possibly even cyan Omrons.

Do you have this keyboard already or are you still eyeing it? If the latter, get it!

I see.

The bezel really reminded me of an AT101, hah
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Re: YES keyboard
« Reply #5 on: Thu, 21 April 2016, 18:29:17 »
Quote from: klennkellon on Thu, 21 April 2016, 18:20:04
Quote from: chyros on Thu, 21 April 2016, 18:01:57
Quote from: klennkellon on Thu, 21 April 2016, 17:14:47
It looks a lot like a bigfoot/AT101

what switches?
No, if you'll noticed you can see it has an Omnikey-like lock-like bridge, and the ridge is much taller than a Bigfoot. Should be a Focus FK-555, the board that appears to be the forerunner of the Omnikey.

Should be blue Alps or possibly even cyan Omrons.

Do you have this keyboard already or are you still eyeing it? If the latter, get it!

I see.

The bezel really reminded me of an AT101, hah
Oh without a doubt the two boards were inspired by the same design. I'm not sure the Bigfoot was the original Bigfoot-like keyboard, though. I think the FK-555 might've been earlier in fact.
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Re: YES keyboard
« Reply #6 on: Fri, 22 April 2016, 04:29:03 »
Still eyeing it. Here's the bottom.
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Re: YES keyboard
« Reply #7 on: Fri, 22 April 2016, 04:30:51 »
How much is this worth? So I don't get robbed.
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Re: YES keyboard
« Reply #8 on: Fri, 22 April 2016, 08:29:55 »
If it does have blue Alps they'll have to charge you quite a lot for you to get robbed :p . They've been going for really high amounts of late.
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Re: YES keyboard
« Reply #9 on: Fri, 22 April 2016, 15:36:47 »
Quote from: itzmeluigi on Thu, 21 April 2016, 17:21:01
Thats a Focus FK-555 (or atleast looks like it), a very nice keyboard, probably has Blue Alps. Those are worth a lot of money. Nice find  :)  Is the back of the keyboard made of metal?
Back is metal but I haven't been shown the switches. Made in 1988.
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Re: YES keyboard
« Reply #10 on: Fri, 22 April 2016, 15:51:44 »
You should be able to resell that for $100 pretty easily, if you decide you don’t want it. I’d pay about $50, but I’m super cheap.

But you probably will like it. Blue Alps are really great switches. (If it turns out to be cyan Omrons, those are quite rare, and I’m sure there’s someone interested.)
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Re: YES keyboard
« Reply #11 on: Fri, 22 April 2016, 16:16:39 »
Is it guaranteed that this KB will have Alps or omrons ?
Really curious to try a vintage mech. The only vintage I've used is a Commodore 64 but it wasn't a mech and wasn't vintage when I had it:-)
« Last Edit: Fri, 22 April 2016, 16:19:52 by Chau »
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« Reply #12 on: Fri, 22 April 2016, 17:21:13 »
Quote from: Chau on Fri, 22 April 2016, 16:16:39
Is it guaranteed that this KB will have Alps or omrons ?
Really curious to try a vintage mech. The only vintage I've used is a Commodore 64 but it wasn't a mech and wasn't vintage when I had it:-)

My personal opinion is that this is another Proworld keyboard which uses Cherry-compatible switches that have Alps click leaves in them.

Thread: https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=46705.0







They look practically identical.
Quote from: jacobolus on Fri, 22 April 2016, 15:51:44
You should be able to resell that for $100 pretty easily, if you decide you don’t want it. I’d pay about $50, but I’m super cheap.

But you probably will like it. Blue Alps are really great switches. (If it turns out to be cyan Omrons, those are quite rare, and I’m sure there’s someone interested.)

This is a very low ball offer, even $100 is considering the prices recently. That is, presuming that these are blue Alps.

However, if this is the Proworld clone board, then you can't really put a price on it since it's rather obscure and rare. I wouldn't sell it for either of those prices.
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Offline Chau

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Re: YES keyboard
« Reply #13 on: Fri, 22 April 2016, 17:39:31 »
So should I get it whatever it is?
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Re: YES keyboard
« Reply #14 on: Fri, 22 April 2016, 18:02:38 »
Tell us about the seller price about it. I say if it's above USD 150 then forget it
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Re: YES keyboard
« Reply #15 on: Fri, 22 April 2016, 22:29:58 »
Quote from: E3E on Fri, 22 April 2016, 17:21:13
My personal opinion is that this is another Proworld keyboard which uses Cherry-compatible switches that have Alps click leaves in them.

Unlikely. Totally different keycaps.
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« Reply #16 on: Fri, 22 April 2016, 23:16:32 »
Quote from: jacobolus on Fri, 22 April 2016, 22:29:58
Unlikely. Totally different keycaps.

It's the closest thing we can compare it to, more so than the Focus FK-555. I don't think this one has blue Alps, but the only way we'll know for sure is if Chau gets the board and lets us know.
« Last Edit: Fri, 22 April 2016, 23:26:09 by E3E »
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Offline Chau

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Re: YES keyboard
« Reply #17 on: Sat, 23 April 2016, 02:01:04 »
Still trying to get the guy to remove a cap and take a photo.
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Re: YES keyboard
« Reply #18 on: Sat, 23 April 2016, 02:43:02 »
Just buy it before he realizes he's sitting on a potential goldmine. Even if it's crap, then at least you've shown us all something new, and we will appreciate the expanded knowledge.
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Re: YES keyboard
« Reply #19 on: Sun, 24 April 2016, 04:38:07 »
Is this black alps?  Is the KB a Bigfoot clone or something? Is it  anything special and worth getting?
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Re: YES keyboard
« Reply #20 on: Sun, 24 April 2016, 04:44:59 »
Quote from: Chau on Sun, 24 April 2016, 04:38:07
Is this black alps?  Is the KB a Bigfoot clone or something? Is it  anything special and worth getting?
Those are type OD1, i have some and there not good at all. They use the same pin layout as Omrons, you could always solder in some Omrons but its not worth the effort.
https://deskthority.net/wiki/Alps.tw_Type_OD1
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Re: YES keyboard
« Reply #21 on: Sun, 24 April 2016, 05:07:53 »
Thanks for the info. Damn. I was hoping for a nice surprise.
« Last Edit: Sun, 24 April 2016, 05:10:07 by Chau »
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« Reply #22 on: Sun, 24 April 2016, 05:12:24 »
Interesting. Well, depends what the seller wants for it, and what you’d want it for.

I would still pay about $50 shipped (so I’d buy one from a US recycling center, but probably not from Greece), because I’m somewhat interested in comparing all the Alps-mount switches I can find. I’m sure there are other people here or on Deskthority who feel similar, and would be interested in taking pictures and documenting the keyboard, etc.  If someone really likes Omron switches, and has some from a different source, this would also probably be among the best hosts for them, with a sturdy case, metal back, etc.

But if you want to find a keyboard to type with all the time, you might not want it.
« Last Edit: Sun, 24 April 2016, 05:14:28 by jacobolus »
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Re: YES keyboard
« Reply #23 on: Sun, 24 April 2016, 05:25:33 »
So the consensus is they're not that nice to type on?
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« Reply #24 on: Sun, 24 April 2016, 09:41:37 »
You won’t find a consensus. Almost nobody has typed on these switches.
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Re: YES keyboard
« Reply #25 on: Sun, 24 April 2016, 15:26:06 »
Damn, the plot thickens xD . See, this is what I like about vintage keyboards, there's so much variety :D . I'd have loved to give Proworlds a try tbh xD .
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« Reply #26 on: Sun, 24 April 2016, 16:27:15 »
Quote from: chyros on Sun, 24 April 2016, 15:26:06
Damn, the plot thickens xD . See, this is what I like about vintage keyboards, there's so much variety :D . I'd have loved to give Proworlds a try tbh xD .

It's a fun guessing game on ebay when the seller doesn't have pictures. If I had more disposable income I would buy a bunch.

Could be blue alps, or could be a rubber dome, or some obscure alps clone
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