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Offline watduzhkstand4

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Having so much trouble deciding: 87u or 103u?
« on: Sat, 19 December 2009, 15:28:21 »
I have the Blank White HHKB Pro 2. I have the blank Filco Cherry Blue Tenkeyless. I also have the cherry blue keypad. I want to get a Realforce board because it seems to be a more solid build with the metal back plate but I don't know which one to get. Space is not a problem with the 103u. I like to have a keyboard with a num pad but it looks sexier without one.

Please throw in your two cent. I will take any thoughts and then make my decision.
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Offline ch_123

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Having so much trouble deciding: 87u or 103u?
« Reply #1 on: Sat, 19 December 2009, 15:31:59 »
I've heard at least one person say that their 103U wasn't quite as rock solid compared with their 87U. On the flipside, if you want one with a numpad, get it. It's cheaper too!
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Offline watduzhkstand4

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Having so much trouble deciding: 87u or 103u?
« Reply #2 on: Sat, 19 December 2009, 15:37:59 »
Quote from: ch_123;143752
I've heard at least one person say that their 103U wasn't quite as rock solid compared with their 87U. On the flipside, if you want one with a numpad, get it. It's cheaper too!


Is that why the 87u is so much more expensive than the 103u? the reason why I like the realforce keyboards is because I've listened to so many audio clips and watched so many youtube videos on it and it definitely doesn't sound as plastic and fragile than the HHKB Pro 2. I like the way the keys sound with the realforce boards. Correct me if I'm hearing something wrong =D
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Cherry Blue *Filco Tenkeyless w/ blank keys* w/ red ESC key thanks to Megarat
Cherry Red Noppoo Choc Mini
IBM Model M 1391401 12/15/88
Siig Minitouch w/ White Alps

SOLD
HHKB Pro 2 white w/ blank keys red ESC key and blank WASD keys
HHKB L-2
Cherry Brown Compaq mx11800
Dell AT101W
Cherry Red Leopold 104-key Otaku FC500RR/ABN

Offline AndrewZorn

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Having so much trouble deciding: 87u or 103u?
« Reply #3 on: Sat, 19 December 2009, 15:42:13 »
pretty sure the 87u is only more expensive due to demand.  if the 103u truly is flimsier, it is probably because it is the same thickness materials etc just shorter (just a guess here though).
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Offline ch_123

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« Reply #4 on: Sat, 19 December 2009, 15:45:19 »
I think AndrewZorn perfectly summed up what I was about to otherwise say =P
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Offline ch_123

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« Reply #5 on: Sat, 19 December 2009, 15:55:40 »
Oh, it makes little sense to me either. Im convinced it's a psychological impact from having the thing spread out more but not necessarily being that much heavier. I find density has quite an impact on how you perceive quality - a Filco Tenkeyless and a Dell AT101W are around the same weight, but the Filco feels heavier to me because of the weight concentration.
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Offline AndrewZorn

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« Reply #6 on: Sat, 19 December 2009, 16:02:29 »
yeah, density too.  there are 'base' weights to the board, like the controller.
i was just thinking about the comparative flimsiness between a 2ft long 2x4 and a 4ft long 2x4.
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Offline watduzhkstand4

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Having so much trouble deciding: 87u or 103u?
« Reply #7 on: Sat, 19 December 2009, 16:17:35 »
I think it might feel flimsier because of the sound it is producing maybe? The 103u is longer and the sounds that it makes from that back plate might be a little bit different comparing to the 87u. Maybe in reality it just sounds flimsier but not really a flimsier build. I still don't know which one to get though lol.
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Cherry Red Noppoo Choc Mini
IBM Model M 1391401 12/15/88
Siig Minitouch w/ White Alps

SOLD
HHKB Pro 2 white w/ blank keys red ESC key and blank WASD keys
HHKB L-2
Cherry Brown Compaq mx11800
Dell AT101W
Cherry Red Leopold 104-key Otaku FC500RR/ABN

Offline lowpoly

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Having so much trouble deciding: 87u or 103u?
« Reply #8 on: Sat, 19 December 2009, 16:40:58 »
Get a uTron. Problem solved.
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Offline watduzhkstand4

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« Reply #9 on: Sat, 19 December 2009, 16:42:24 »
Quote from: lowpoly;143774
Get a uTron. Problem solved.


sounds great! Total will be charged to lowpoly and shipped to me! =D
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KEYBOARDS
Cherry Blue *Filco Tenkeyless w/ blank keys* w/ red ESC key thanks to Megarat
Cherry Red Noppoo Choc Mini
IBM Model M 1391401 12/15/88
Siig Minitouch w/ White Alps

SOLD
HHKB Pro 2 white w/ blank keys red ESC key and blank WASD keys
HHKB L-2
Cherry Brown Compaq mx11800
Dell AT101W
Cherry Red Leopold 104-key Otaku FC500RR/ABN

Offline didjamatic

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Having so much trouble deciding: 87u or 103u?
« Reply #10 on: Sat, 19 December 2009, 16:54:33 »
I have both the 103u and the 87u and there is no difference in quality, they are both rock solid.  It comes down to whether you want to save money and get a keypad or spend more and not have one.... oh and right now it depends which color you want.

My 87u seems slightly stiffer but it's brand new.  That is the only difference I can speak to after owning both.

Let me take the opportunity to once again say how lame it is that Topre/Realforce won't allow Elite to ask them to include a handful of white 87u's in an order of blacks.  On a scale of 1-10 that = stupid.  I'd really like a white 87u but Elite won't do a full order of whites.
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Offline lowpoly

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« Reply #11 on: Sat, 19 December 2009, 17:10:33 »
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Wrong guy.  You're supposed to convince RD of that.  Give his poor wife a heart attack.


That would be no fun. He is already convinced. :-)
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Offline watduzhkstand4

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Having so much trouble deciding: 87u or 103u?
« Reply #12 on: Sat, 19 December 2009, 17:16:30 »
Quote from: didjamatic;143777
I have both the 103u and the 87u and there is no difference in quality, they are both rock solid.  It comes down to whether you want to save money and get a keypad or spend more and not have one.... oh and right now it depends which color you want.

My 87u seems slightly stiffer but it's brand new.  That is the only difference I can speak to after owning both.

Let me take the opportunity to once again say how lame it is that Topre/Realforce won't allow Elite to ask them to include a handful of white 87u's in an order of blacks.  On a scale of 1-10 that = stupid.  I'd really like a white 87u but Elite won't do a full order of whites.


but will elite custom order one for you?
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Cherry Blue *Filco Tenkeyless w/ blank keys* w/ red ESC key thanks to Megarat
Cherry Red Noppoo Choc Mini
IBM Model M 1391401 12/15/88
Siig Minitouch w/ White Alps

SOLD
HHKB Pro 2 white w/ blank keys red ESC key and blank WASD keys
HHKB L-2
Cherry Brown Compaq mx11800
Dell AT101W
Cherry Red Leopold 104-key Otaku FC500RR/ABN

Offline ch_123

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« Reply #13 on: Sat, 19 December 2009, 17:47:36 »
Not until he's ordering another batch from Japan. At the moment, I think you have to wait 2 moths or so for the next one.
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Offline watduzhkstand4

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« Reply #14 on: Sat, 19 December 2009, 19:14:48 »
Quote from: ch_123;143789
Not until he's ordering another batch from Japan. At the moment, I think you have to wait 2 moths or so for the next one.


yep. I guess I'll take the 103u. I like the 103u because I just realized I don't have a standard size keyboard in the house! =X I would like to have something that's normal lol. Just a quick question ch_123, how do you post to sell things in the classified section? I tried so many times and it won't let me. Thanks!
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KEYBOARDS
Cherry Blue *Filco Tenkeyless w/ blank keys* w/ red ESC key thanks to Megarat
Cherry Red Noppoo Choc Mini
IBM Model M 1391401 12/15/88
Siig Minitouch w/ White Alps

SOLD
HHKB Pro 2 white w/ blank keys red ESC key and blank WASD keys
HHKB L-2
Cherry Brown Compaq mx11800
Dell AT101W
Cherry Red Leopold 104-key Otaku FC500RR/ABN

Offline HungryPillow

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Having so much trouble deciding: 87u or 103u?
« Reply #15 on: Mon, 21 December 2009, 20:54:34 »
Get both :)

I got the 87U cause it looked sexier, but now I kind of want the 103U as well. Doh.
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Offline mmgoose

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« Reply #16 on: Mon, 21 December 2009, 21:13:09 »
i'd recommend that you get the 103 just because i want an 87 for myself.
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Offline ch_123

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Having so much trouble deciding: 87u or 103u?
« Reply #17 on: Tue, 22 December 2009, 02:45:43 »
Quote from: watduzhkstand4;143810
Just a quick question ch_123,how do you post to sell things in the classified section? I tried so many times and it won't let me. Thanks!


I can't remember, have only used it once.
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Offline didjamatic

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« Reply #18 on: Tue, 22 December 2009, 07:01:28 »
Go into the Classified section and click "Add Classified" on the left.
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Offline rdjack21

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Having so much trouble deciding: 87u or 103u?
« Reply #19 on: Tue, 22 December 2009, 21:55:45 »
Quote from: lowpoly;143780
That would be no fun. He is already convinced. :-)


Oh Yea I'm going to get one of those. So no need to convince me webwit did all the dirty work already.
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Topre Capacitive: Realforce 87U, Realforce 86U, HHKB Pro 2, Topre MD01B0, Topre HE0100, Sun Short Type, OEM NEO CS (x2), NISSHO Electronics KB106DE
Buckling Spring: IBM Model M Space Saver (1291472), Unicomp Customizer x 2
Cherry Brown: Filco FKBN87M/EB, Compaq MX11800
Black Alps: ABS M1
Not so great boards Rare Spring over dome OKI, Sun rack keyboard
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Keyboards I still want to get - Happy Hacking Keyboard Pro 2 the White version, Realforce 23U number pad in black and maybe white, μTRON ergo board with Topre switches.
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