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Re: Why are keyboards with LEDs in the keys useful?
« Reply #50 on: Thu, 23 June 2016, 16:26:17 »
Why is a keyboard useful?

A lot of people use them for collecting dust and crumbs.
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Re: Why are keyboards with LEDs in the keys useful?
« Reply #51 on: Thu, 23 June 2016, 16:33:39 »
Keyboard are dust collectors? LOL.

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Re: Why are keyboards with LEDs in the keys useful?
« Reply #52 on: Thu, 23 June 2016, 16:46:21 »
People also use keyboards to hold down their desk sized mouse pad
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Re: Why are keyboards with LEDs in the keys useful?
« Reply #53 on: Thu, 23 June 2016, 21:55:21 »
They can used in hand-to-hand combat, especially vintage keyboards.
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Re: Why are keyboards with LEDs in the keys useful?
« Reply #54 on: Thu, 23 June 2016, 22:25:19 »
I prefer to remove all of the LED's from the buttons on the dash of my car too...

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Re: Why are keyboards with LEDs in the keys useful?
« Reply #55 on: Thu, 23 June 2016, 22:56:56 »
They can used in hand-to-hand combat, especially vintage keyboards.
If there isnt a battle royale to the death with model ms at keycon this year imma be pissed


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Re: Why are keyboards with LEDs in the keys useful?
« Reply #56 on: Fri, 24 June 2016, 08:27:29 »
They can used in hand-to-hand combat, especially vintage keyboards.
If there isnt a battle royale to the death with model ms at keycon this year imma be pissed


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Re: Why are keyboards with LEDs in the keys useful?
« Reply #57 on: Fri, 24 June 2016, 08:33:23 »
They can used in hand-to-hand combat, especially vintage keyboards.
If there isnt a battle royale to the death with model ms at keycon this year imma be pissed


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Re: Why are keyboards with LEDs in the keys useful?
« Reply #58 on: Fri, 24 June 2016, 13:48:05 »
I find subtle backlighting very useful on my MacBook. I can touch-type, but it's quicker and easier in a dark room to orient to the home row with a little lighting (yes, I know there are homing bumps on the F/J keys, but it's quicker to look) -- plus I'm not so good a touch-typist that I know all the punctuation and everything.

That said, the level of lighting on most of the aftermarket boards I see on here is massive, massive overkill on any functional level.

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Re: Why are keyboards with LEDs in the keys useful?
« Reply #59 on: Fri, 24 June 2016, 16:19:35 »
People like backlighting for the same reason they like their favorite flavor of Ice Cream.

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Re: Why are keyboards with LEDs in the keys useful?
« Reply #60 on: Fri, 24 June 2016, 18:25:26 »
But ice cream is not useful ...

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Re: Why are keyboards with LEDs in the keys useful?
« Reply #61 on: Fri, 24 June 2016, 18:26:13 »
But ice cream is not useful ...
blasphemy


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Re: Why are keyboards with LEDs in the keys useful?
« Reply #62 on: Fri, 24 June 2016, 21:49:21 »
But ice cream is not useful ...

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Re: Why are keyboards with LEDs in the keys useful?
« Reply #63 on: Fri, 24 June 2016, 21:56:44 »
I find subtle backlighting very useful on my MacBook. I can touch-type, but it's quicker and easier in a dark room to orient to the home row with a little lighting (yes, I know there are homing bumps on the F/J keys, but it's quicker to look) -- plus I'm not so good a touch-typist that I know all the punctuation and everything.

That said, the level of lighting on most of the aftermarket boards I see on here is massive, massive overkill on any functional level.

One of the few comments that actually makes sense on backlighting, all the noise based only on preferences is wasted.

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Re: Why are keyboards with LEDs in the keys useful?
« Reply #64 on: Sat, 25 June 2016, 07:54:28 »
BUY A LAMP! Or... one of those cheapo USB powered LED lamps that if your kb has a spare usb port, you could probably plug and power into and fit it over your keyboard.

There. LED-lit keyboard for $1-2. You're welcome.
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Re: Why are keyboards with LEDs in the keys useful?
« Reply #65 on: Sat, 25 June 2016, 15:02:43 »
BUY A LAMP! Or... one of those cheapo USB powered LED lamps that if your kb has a spare usb port, you could probably plug and power into and fit it over your keyboard.

There. LED-lit keyboard for $1-2. You're welcome.

I'm not going to carry a lamp around with me in my backpack, and why would I buy a USB lamp when I can just use the backlighting I already have? 100+ LEDs only cost about $1 anyways. You're just being silly now.
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Re: Why are keyboards with LEDs in the keys useful?
« Reply #66 on: Sat, 25 June 2016, 15:41:52 »
I'm not going to carry a lamp around with me in my backpack, and why would I buy a USB lamp when I can just use the backlighting I already have? 100+ LEDs only cost about $1 anyways. You're just being silly now.

Speaking of which, I and quite a few others I know, never take anyone who uses backlit keyboards seriously. Seriously. We're not 15 and realise how moronic it is. OH HAI! BRIGHT LIGHTS HELP MAI TYPING. MAI PRO TYPING SKILLZ etc etc.

Secondly, you carry a keyboard around in your backpack. Wow.

USB lamps are cool. Way cool. Try one - you'll be hooked and look grown up.
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Re: Why are keyboards with LEDs in the keys useful?
« Reply #67 on: Sat, 25 June 2016, 17:26:57 »
Yes I do, it's attached to my laptop which incidentally I also carry around with me.
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Re: Why are keyboards with LEDs in the keys useful?
« Reply #68 on: Sun, 26 June 2016, 05:43:08 »
Ugh, noobs with macintrashbooks… Ever heard of ThinkLight?

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Re: Why are keyboards with LEDs in the keys useful?
« Reply #69 on: Sun, 26 June 2016, 05:47:35 »
Ugh, noobs with macintrashbooks… Ever heard of ThinkLight?
hell yeah man


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Re: Why are keyboards with LEDs in the keys useful?
« Reply #70 on: Sun, 26 June 2016, 05:52:01 »
Ugh, noobs with macintrashbooks… Ever heard of ThinkLight?
You've screwed the pooch on this one, now kids will be wanting to take this idea and make it multi-coloured...
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Re: Why are keyboards with LEDs in the keys useful?
« Reply #71 on: Sun, 26 June 2016, 05:55:32 »
Ugh, noobs with macintrashbooks… Ever heard of ThinkLight?
my x230 came with a backlit keyboard, so my thinklight isnt quite as useful


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Re: Why are keyboards with LEDs in the keys useful?
« Reply #72 on: Sun, 26 June 2016, 06:18:00 »
Actually, my X200T doesn't have ThinkLight and it doesn't bother me too much, because the pad printing is so good, that it reflect enough light even with only a dimmed screen.

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Re: Why are keyboards with LEDs in the keys useful?
« Reply #73 on: Sun, 26 June 2016, 06:20:22 »
Actually, my X200T doesn't have ThinkLight and it doesn't bother me too much, because the pad printing is so good, that it reflect enough light even with only a dimmed screen.
You need an upgrade pal, I had an x200 for about 3 days back in 2014, Bought it used off ebay and the motherboard was shot, it just hard powered off about every 15 minutes and wouldnt boot without pulling the battery out


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Re: Why are keyboards with LEDs in the keys useful?
« Reply #74 on: Sun, 26 June 2016, 06:31:30 »
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Re: Why are keyboards with LEDs in the keys useful?
« Reply #75 on: Sun, 26 June 2016, 06:32:59 »
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Re: Why are keyboards with LEDs in the keys useful?
« Reply #76 on: Sun, 26 June 2016, 06:43:13 »
I'd also rather have it you disable this message.

Apple sucks badly anyway.  You don't need to remind us of it all the time.

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Re: Why are keyboards with LEDs in the keys useful?
« Reply #77 on: Sun, 26 June 2016, 06:51:49 »
I'd also rather have it you disable this message.

Apple sucks badly anyway.  You don't need to remind us of it all the time.
I'd also rather not hear your opinion :)) I like my 6s better than any other device ive ever owned, I tried to live the android life, I had an s3 for about 5 days back in 2013, then I traded it for an iphone 4s. I have a nexus 7, its not bad, but I would rather just use my iphone. jailbroken ios > android > stock ios

lmao but seriously if its that bad ill disable it.

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Re: Why are keyboards with LEDs in the keys useful?
« Reply #78 on: Sun, 26 June 2016, 09:18:19 »
ios with malware and viruses > android > stock ios

fixed it for you
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Re: Why are keyboards with LEDs in the keys useful?
« Reply #79 on: Sun, 26 June 2016, 09:29:37 »
lmao but seriously if its that bad ill disable it.

Pretty sure this is just a troll thread at this point, don't worry too much much it.

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Re: Why are keyboards with LEDs in the keys useful?
« Reply #80 on: Sun, 26 June 2016, 09:35:09 »
Actually, my X200T doesn't have ThinkLight and it doesn't bother me too much, because the pad printing is so good, that it reflect enough light even with only a dimmed screen.
You need an upgrade pal
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Re: Why are keyboards with LEDs in the keys useful?
« Reply #81 on: Sun, 26 June 2016, 09:37:29 »
lmao but seriously if its that bad ill disable it.

Thank you :)

That message is actually spam.  And I don't put the output of lspci -vvvv plus the kernel config plus the process tree and the source code of the web browser plus the config of my window manager and whatnot under each post, either, no matter how much I like them.

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Re: Why are keyboards with LEDs in the keys useful?
« Reply #82 on: Sun, 26 June 2016, 09:40:03 »
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Re: Why are keyboards with LEDs in the keys useful?
« Reply #83 on: Sun, 26 June 2016, 11:10:27 »
lmao but seriously if its that bad ill disable it.

Thank you :)

That message is actually spam.  And I don't put the output of lspci -vvvv plus the kernel config plus the process tree and the source code of the web browser plus the config of my window manager and whatnot under each post, either, no matter how much I like them.

I've still not seen (other than personal preference) why it's so much worse than some of the sigs that people have, and why so much mindshare is given to it.  It's not a link, nor does it have images, flashing or otherwise.  It's just a simple statement.  I have it turned off on most of my devices... I forgot on some.  But I don't view it as spam, nor particularly bad.  To each his own, I suppose.

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Re: Why are keyboards with LEDs in the keys useful?
« Reply #84 on: Sun, 26 June 2016, 11:20:34 »
lmao but seriously if its that bad ill disable it.

Thank you :)

That message is actually spam.  And I don't put the output of lspci -vvvv plus the kernel config plus the process tree and the source code of the web browser plus the config of my window manager and whatnot under each post, either, no matter how much I like them.

I've still not seen (other than personal preference) why it's so much worse than some of the sigs that people have, and why so much mindshare is given to it.  It's not a link, nor does it have images, flashing or otherwise.  It's just a simple statement.  I have it turned off on most of my devices... I forgot on some.  But I don't view it as spam, nor particularly bad.  To each his own, I suppose.
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Re: Why are keyboards with LEDs in the keys useful?
« Reply #85 on: Sun, 26 June 2016, 12:34:23 »
lmao but seriously if its that bad ill disable it.

Thank you :)

That message is actually spam.  And I don't put the output of lspci -vvvv plus the kernel config plus the process tree and the source code of the web browser plus the config of my window manager and whatnot under each post, either, no matter how much I like them.

I've still not seen (other than personal preference) why it's so much worse than some of the sigs that people have, and why so much mindshare is given to it.  It's not a link, nor does it have images, flashing or otherwise.  It's just a simple statement.  I have it turned off on most of my devices... I forgot on some.  But I don't view it as spam, nor particularly bad.  To each his own, I suppose.

Messages like this advertise some particular device or software, and they are uncalled for.  That suffices to classify them as spam.

I take it so far as to say all advertisement should be illegal in public.  If someone wants to see advertisement, they can download advertising videos, visit advertising web sites, buy advertising magazines, tune their TVs or radios to encrypted stations dedicated to advertising or the like, but save everyone who doesn't want to be bothered by all the crap from it.  And if you want to use my resources to have your advertising transmitted or displayed, ask for permission and for what you have to pay for doing so beforehand.

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Re: Why are keyboards with LEDs in the keys useful?
« Reply #86 on: Sun, 26 June 2016, 13:15:38 »
Whether you want to see it or not, advertising is necessary to keep sites running. Citing that you shouldn't ever have to see them shows a small worldview where everything in life is free.
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Re: Why are keyboards with LEDs in the keys useful?
« Reply #87 on: Sun, 26 June 2016, 14:33:49 »
Whether you want to see it or not, advertising is necessary to keep sites running. Citing that you shouldn't ever have to see them shows a small worldview where everything in life is free.
Advertising is not necessary to keep sites running. That's a myth. There are many sources of incomes for sites depending on the site type, its audience and many other factors.

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Re: Why are keyboards with LEDs in the keys useful?
« Reply #88 on: Sun, 26 June 2016, 15:10:53 »
Whether you want to see it or not, advertising is necessary to keep sites running. Citing that you shouldn't ever have to see them shows a small worldview where everything in life is free.
Advertising is not necessary to keep sites running. That's a myth. There are many sources of incomes for sites depending on the site type, its audience and many other factors.

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Re: Why are keyboards with LEDs in the keys useful?
« Reply #89 on: Mon, 27 June 2016, 02:49:08 »
Deskthority is a club, thus it's funded from membership fees and possible donations.
There are websites, that don't contain *third-party* marketing, but only subtle advertisements for their own commercial products/services (e.g., hardware or training).

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Re: Why are keyboards with LEDs in the keys useful?
« Reply #90 on: Fri, 01 July 2016, 18:54:33 »
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No-one gives a flying fish how it was sent. Please turn off this annoying message. Thank you.

Do you not have an option to turn off display of people's signatures? There's all manner of lame crap in them so I just turn 'em off instead of whining about things I don't like.

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Re: Why are keyboards with LEDs in the keys useful?
« Reply #91 on: Fri, 01 July 2016, 18:58:42 »
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No-one gives a flying fish how it was sent. Please turn off this annoying message. Thank you.

Do you not have an option to turn off display of people's signatures? There's all manner of lame crap in them so I just turn 'em off instead of whining about things I don't like.

Of course there is an option to do so, just go to your look and layout's profile and check the no show signature option, you will not see any of them.
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Re: Why are keyboards with LEDs in the keys useful?
« Reply #92 on: Fri, 01 July 2016, 19:38:00 »
I like to have a cap lock, num lock, and scroll lock keys with the LED indicators built in rather than on a separate chunk of keyboard real estate.

Otherwise, I don't care much for the "shine-through" lights, unless if I'm typing as the sun sets and feel too lazy to get up to turn on a light.
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Re: Why are keyboards with LEDs in the keys useful?
« Reply #93 on: Fri, 01 July 2016, 19:38:46 »
that sent from my iphone is in the body of the message - DIME BAR!
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Re: Why are keyboards with LEDs in the keys useful?
« Reply #94 on: Fri, 01 July 2016, 19:46:24 »
> this whole thread


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Re: Why are keyboards with LEDs in the keys useful?
« Reply #95 on: Fri, 01 July 2016, 20:10:40 »
Is this keyboard beautiful?  :cool:

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Re: Why are keyboards with LEDs in the keys useful?
« Reply #96 on: Fri, 01 July 2016, 21:43:03 »
that sent from my iphone is in the body of the message - DIME BAR!
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Re: Why are keyboards with LEDs in the keys useful?
« Reply #97 on: Sun, 03 July 2016, 01:03:54 »
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No-one gives a flying fish how it was sent. Please turn off this annoying message. Thank you.

Do you not have an option to turn off display of people's signatures? There's all manner of lame crap in them so I just turn 'em off instead of whining about things I don't like.

Trouble is, the Tapatalk text is not part of the signature.  It is embedded in the end of the post.
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Offline Rhosta

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Why are keyboards with LEDs in the keys useful?
« Reply #98 on: Mon, 04 July 2016, 08:01:38 »
Lately there happens to be a lot of situations with kids around my pc, so everyone wants to play games.

Every game has different controls, so I set up lighting profiles for each game and now I dont have to remember and teach them controls for every game every time they arrive.

Also sometimes I need to make as little light as possible to not disturb anyone in room, so backlit board comes in handy.

EDIT: You can also use effects like color change on press so you can check which keys you pressed when typing password.

I dunno, its not necessary, but lighting can actualy be useful, unlike things like high mouse DPI.


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« Last Edit: Mon, 04 July 2016, 15:14:01 by Rhosta »

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Re: Why are keyboards with LEDs in the keys useful?
« Reply #99 on: Mon, 04 July 2016, 09:01:13 »
Lately there happens to be a lot of situations with kids around my pc, so everyone wants to play games.

Every game has different controls, so I set up lighting profiles for each game and now I dont have to remember and teach them controls for every game every time they arrive.

Also sometimes I need to make as little light as possible to not disturb anyone in room, so backlit board comes in handy.


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To not disturb someone sleeping in the room is a pretty good reason to have a backlit keyboard imho
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