Cherry Clears or Greens

[TypingNoob]

I'm getting a VA87m and wanted to try out either clears or greens. The only switches i've used extensively are Outemu, Kailh, Cherry and Gateron Blues and Cherry Reds from my  CM Strom QuickFire Ultimate.
I wanted to try something new. From what I've heard greens are just stiffer blues and clears are heavier browns. Please correct me if got all that wrong.
My job entails mostly typing around 4-5 hours a day(I have online job at home) with some light gaming(LoL, Overwatch). Which of the two would be more suitable? Any input would be greatly appreciated.

[xtrafrood]

From my understanding, Greens have more resistance and are a little quieter than Blues

[ThoughtArtist]

Clears and Browns really have a different typing style and are more superficially similar than just being light/heavy versions of each other. Browns are kind of meant to bottom out. You can bottom out with Clears, but to get a good cadence with typing, you float them more than Browns, letting the spring push your fingers back up after hitting the actuation point past the tactile bump. So they can seem heavy at first if you mash them like Browns, but once adjusted, they are actually easy to type on and perhaps even more ergonomic than Browns. Clears have a unique spring with more spaced out coils that is light at the top and heavy at the bottom. That being said, I can game with either after being used to both of them.

I don't know about Greens as I don't use Cherry clickers, but I believe, as long as the noise doesn't bother you, you would need to just try both boards for around a month to determine which you like or don't like.

[TypingNoob]

From my understanding, Greens have more resistance and are a little quieter than Blues

There I thought they'd be loud like Buckling Springs.

[TypingNoob]

Clears and Browns really have a different typing style and are more superficially similar than just being light/heavy versions of each other. Browns are kind of meant to bottom out. You can bottom out with clears, but to get a good cadence with typing, you float them more than Browns, letting the spring push your fingers back up after hitting the actuation point past the tactile bump. So they can seem heavy at first if you mash them like Browns, but once adjusted, they are actually easy to type on and perhaps even more ergonomic than Browns. Clears have a unique spring with more spaced out coils that is light at the top and heavy at the bottom.

I don't know about Greens as I don't use Cherry clickers, but I believe, as long as the noise doesn't bother you, you would need to just try both boards for around a month to determine which you like or don't like.

I don't have the luxury of trying the switches. And i dont know anyone in my city that has either. Im taking a leap of faith on either(well maybe not on the greens)

[ThoughtArtist]

From my understanding, Greens have more resistance and are a little quieter than Blues

There I thought they'd be loud like Buckling Springs.

They sound the same on my switch tester. It must be due to a difference in actual typing.

[xtrafrood]

From my understanding, Greens have more resistance and are a little quieter than Blues

There I thought they'd be loud like Buckling Springs.

They're one of the switches that are often compared to buckling springs but what I meant about the noise is that people say they have slightly less of a high pitch sound to them (compared to blues). Plenty loud for sure! TBH I can't tell the difference between blues and greens from videos because all the microphones are different

[ThoughtArtist]

Clears and Browns really have a different typing style and are more superficially similar than just being light/heavy versions of each other. Browns are kind of meant to bottom out. You can bottom out with clears, but to get a good cadence with typing, you float them more than Browns, letting the spring push your fingers back up after hitting the actuation point past the tactile bump. So they can seem heavy at first if you mash them like Browns, but once adjusted, they are actually easy to type on and perhaps even more ergonomic than Browns. Clears have a unique spring with more spaced out coils that is light at the top and heavy at the bottom.

I don't know about Greens as I don't use Cherry clickers, but I believe, as long as the noise doesn't bother you, you would need to just try both boards for around a month to determine which you like or don't like.

I don't have the luxury of trying the switches. And i dont know anyone in my city that has either. Im taking a leap of faith on either(well maybe not on the greens)

That's the only way to tell though. I read about Clears so much and was never able to determine I liked them until after a month of using them. But basically, I realized that the main thing about them is they have a distinct style of typing that's not the same as Browns where you are meant to bottom out. Like I said, you CAN bottom out Clears, but they are designed so your fingers get pushed up towards to bottom. The cadence is just distinctly different than Browns.

[ThoughtArtist]

From my understanding, Greens have more resistance and are a little quieter than Blues

There I thought they'd be loud like Buckling Springs.

They're one of the switches that are often compared to buckling springs but what I meant about the noise is that people say they have slightly less of a high pitch sound to them (compared to blues). Plenty loud for sure! TBH I can't tell the difference between blues and greens from videos because all the microphones are different

It's probably more different in person. I can tell that they sound nothing like Model F buckling springs though. Those are another world.

[TypingNoob]

Clears and Browns really have a different typing style and are more superficially similar than just being light/heavy versions of each other. Browns are kind of meant to bottom out. You can bottom out with clears, but to get a good cadence with typing, you float them more than Browns, letting the spring push your fingers back up after hitting the actuation point past the tactile bump. So they can seem heavy at first if you mash them like Browns, but once adjusted, they are actually easy to type on and perhaps even more ergonomic than Browns. Clears have a unique spring with more spaced out coils that is light at the top and heavy at the bottom.

I don't know about Greens as I don't use Cherry clickers, but I believe, as long as the noise doesn't bother you, you would need to just try both boards for around a month to determine which you like or don't like.

I don't have the luxury of trying the switches. And i dont know anyone in my city that has either. Im taking a leap of faith on either(well maybe not on the greens)

That's the only way to tell though. I read about Clears so much and was never able to determine I liked them until after a month of using them. But basically, I realized that the main thing about them is they have a distinct style of typing that's not the same as Browns where you are meant to bottom out. Like I said, you CAN bottom out Clears, but they are designed so your fingers get pushed up towards to bottom. The cadence is just distinctly different than Browns.

I've tried to read so much about clears as I could on the internet. Watched videos. Asked fellow enthusiasts in my country. But many just gave me the "you would know If you physically tried them". And i believe them. But my case demands that I make a decision in 5 days before the GB dies. And im sitting here with internet knowledge. 
I bottom out on blues(kailh, gats, cherry, outemu). Clears have a much higher resistance to bottoming out in comparison to blues?

[ThoughtArtist]

Clears and Browns really have a different typing style and are more superficially similar than just being light/heavy versions of each other. Browns are kind of meant to bottom out. You can bottom out with clears, but to get a good cadence with typing, you float them more than Browns, letting the spring push your fingers back up after hitting the actuation point past the tactile bump. So they can seem heavy at first if you mash them like Browns, but once adjusted, they are actually easy to type on and perhaps even more ergonomic than Browns. Clears have a unique spring with more spaced out coils that is light at the top and heavy at the bottom.

I don't know about Greens as I don't use Cherry clickers, but I believe, as long as the noise doesn't bother you, you would need to just try both boards for around a month to determine which you like or don't like.

I don't have the luxury of trying the switches. And i dont know anyone in my city that has either. Im taking a leap of faith on either(well maybe not on the greens)

That's the only way to tell though. I read about Clears so much and was never able to determine I liked them until after a month of using them. But basically, I realized that the main thing about them is they have a distinct style of typing that's not the same as Browns where you are meant to bottom out. Like I said, you CAN bottom out Clears, but they are designed so your fingers get pushed up towards to bottom. The cadence is just distinctly different than Browns.

I've tried to read so much about clears as I could on the internet. Watched videos. Asked fellow enthusiasts in my country. But many just gave me the "you would know If you physically tried them". And i believe them. But my case demands that I make a decision in 5 days before the GB dies. And im sitting here with internet knowledge. 
I bottom out on blues(kailh, gats, cherry, outemu). Clears have a much higher resistance to bottoming out in comparison to blues?

Browns and Blues have the same type of spring from everything I read so they would bottom out just as hard. The main difference would be the tactility. Also, in regard to Buckling Springs vs Cherry Clickers. The main difference in sound is that the sound is generated much differently, buckling springs being more metallic sounding.

I say just get the Clears and try them for a month or else you'll always wonder. At first I wasn't sure about them, but when I learned their typing style, I was hooked. I use Clears at work and they are great there because I naturally type harder while at work. If I use Browns at work they are much louder since I clack them pretty hard there. I often use Browns at home because I seem to have a lighter touch in the evenings.

[TypingNoob]

Clears and Browns really have a different typing style and are more superficially similar than just being light/heavy versions of each other. Browns are kind of meant to bottom out. You can bottom out with clears, but to get a good cadence with typing, you float them more than Browns, letting the spring push your fingers back up after hitting the actuation point past the tactile bump. So they can seem heavy at first if you mash them like Browns, but once adjusted, they are actually easy to type on and perhaps even more ergonomic than Browns. Clears have a unique spring with more spaced out coils that is light at the top and heavy at the bottom.

I don't know about Greens as I don't use Cherry clickers, but I believe, as long as the noise doesn't bother you, you would need to just try both boards for around a month to determine which you like or don't like.

I don't have the luxury of trying the switches. And i dont know anyone in my city that has either. Im taking a leap of faith on either(well maybe not on the greens)

That's the only way to tell though. I read about Clears so much and was never able to determine I liked them until after a month of using them. But basically, I realized that the main thing about them is they have a distinct style of typing that's not the same as Browns where you are meant to bottom out. Like I said, you CAN bottom out Clears, but they are designed so your fingers get pushed up towards to bottom. The cadence is just distinctly different than Browns.

I've tried to read so much about clears as I could on the internet. Watched videos. Asked fellow enthusiasts in my country. But many just gave me the "you would know If you physically tried them". And i believe them. But my case demands that I make a decision in 5 days before the GB dies. And im sitting here with internet knowledge. 
I bottom out on blues(kailh, gats, cherry, outemu). Clears have a much higher resistance to bottoming out in comparison to blues?

Browns and Blues have the same type of spring from everything I read so they would bottom out just as hard. The main difference would be the tactility. Also, in regard to Buckling Springs vs Cherry Clickers. The main difference in sound is that the sound is generated much differently, buckling springs being more metallic sounding.

I say just get the Clears and try them for a month or else you'll always wonder. At first I wasn't sure about them, but when I learned their typing style, I was hooked. I use Clears at work and they are great there because I naturally type harder while at work. If I use Browns at work they are much louder since I clack them pretty hard there. I often use Browns at home because I seem to have a lighter touch in the evenings.

Clears it is. Im going to kill my curiosity. Much obliged for your insight. 

[TypingNoob]

Just one more thing forgot to ask. I read somewhere that people compare clears to rubber domes. Do they really feel like that?

[rowdy]

Clears are much heavier than blues and even greens.  They are also much more tactile than browns.  Many say that browns feel like gritty reds.  Clears definitely don't feel like that.

Greens are like heavier blues.  Same tick tick tick sound, nothing like the clack clack clack you get from a Model M.  I'd also say that greens feel lighter than Model M, although others differ.

I have both greens and clears, and prefer the clears.

What you prefer is subjective.

Clears are also nothing like a rubber dome keyboard.

[TypingNoob]

Clears are much heavier than blues and even greens.  They are also much more tactile than browns.  Many say that browns feel like gritty reds.  Clears definitely don't feel like that.

Greens are like heavier blues.  Same tick tick tick sound, nothing like the clack clack clack you get from a Model M.  I'd also say that greens feel lighter than Model M, although others differ.

I have both greens and clears, and prefer the clears.

What you prefer is subjective.

Clears are also nothing like a rubber dome keyboard.

Uh. Im a noob and all to switches so I read around. How can clears be heavier than greens? The force to bottom out is greater on greens right? And if you dont mind me asking, is it normal for Varmilo to charge 45$ more for the cherry mx clears from the basic blue, brown, red and black?

[CPTBadAss]

I've owned both switch types. Greens are really nice but I've realized they're too heavy for me when I'm on really long typing sessions. I preferred Whites Clears for longer sessions in front of a keyboard.

I've got Clears on my work keyboard and I love that board.

[TypingNoob]

I've owned both switch types. Greens are really nice but I've realized they're too heavy for me when I'm on really long typing sessions. I preferred Whites Clears for longer sessions in front of a keyboard.

I've got Clears on my work keyboard and I love that board.

I'm using this for my typing job. You dont fatigue too easy i hope?

[rowdy]

Clears are much heavier than blues and even greens.  They are also much more tactile than browns.  Many say that browns feel like gritty reds.  Clears definitely don't feel like that.

Greens are like heavier blues.  Same tick tick tick sound, nothing like the clack clack clack you get from a Model M.  I'd also say that greens feel lighter than Model M, although others differ.

I have both greens and clears, and prefer the clears.

What you prefer is subjective.

Clears are also nothing like a rubber dome keyboard.

Uh. Im a noob and all to switches so I read around. How can clears be heavier than greens? The force to bottom out is greater on greens right? And if you dont mind me asking, is it normal for Varmilo to charge 45$ more for the cherry mx clears from the basic blue, brown, red and black?

https://deskthority.net/wiki/Cherry_MX_Green
https://deskthority.net/wiki/Cherry_MX_Clear

MX green has actuation force of 80 cN.

MX clear has tactile force of 65 cN, actuation force of 55 cN, and bottom out force of 95 cN.

95 > 80

I type all day at work on my CODE with MX clears, and it's great!

[TypingNoob]

Clears are much heavier than blues and even greens.  They are also much more tactile than browns.  Many say that browns feel like gritty reds.  Clears definitely don't feel like that.

Greens are like heavier blues.  Same tick tick tick sound, nothing like the clack clack clack you get from a Model M.  I'd also say that greens feel lighter than Model M, although others differ.

I have both greens and clears, and prefer the clears.

What you prefer is subjective.

Clears are also nothing like a rubber dome keyboard.

Uh. Im a noob and all to switches so I read around. How can clears be heavier than greens? The force to bottom out is greater on greens right? And if you dont mind me asking, is it normal for Varmilo to charge 45$ more for the cherry mx clears from the basic blue, brown, red and black?

https://deskthority.net/wiki/Cherry_MX_Green
https://deskthority.net/wiki/Cherry_MX_Clear

MX green has actuation force of 80 cN.

MX clear has tactile force of 65 cN, actuation force of 55 cN, and bottom out force of 95 cN.

95 > 80

I type all day at work on my CODE with MX clears, and it's great!

Thanks again for the explanation. I did hear clears and zealios were nice to type on.