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Offline Owntrolf

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Lots of Keyboard Building Questions
« on: Wed, 14 September 2016, 01:58:19 »
Currently I'm interested in building a keyboard with arrow keys and standard size bottom row (preferably tkl) however its really hard to find a tkl kit that uses metal backplate since everywhere is flooded with 60% keyboard stuff

Also are there people who put a giant sticker on their backplate and if so are there any pictures of how it looks

For 60% owners, what is the appeal of using it? isn't using the F keys harder and no arrowpad makes some games hard to set up

Finally, where would I obtain a white jelly POM keycaps

Offline Spopepro

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Re: Lots of Keyboard Building Questions
« Reply #1 on: Wed, 14 September 2016, 13:46:00 »
TKL kits come along from time to time. Many of them are very custom and can get very expensive. Occasionally there are more economical options. Watch the IC and GB sections.

Another option is to get a winkeyless (winkeyless.kr) PCB and case. You will have to pick through the options to get everything you need and make sure it's compatible. While it is not a kit, and is a design that is now a little long in the tooth there are phantom PCBs available. That's what I used for my first custom build. I had acrylic plates cut at the local shop.

I'm not sure what part you are referring to when you say "backplate"

As for why 60%... You might as well be asking why my favorite color is blue.

Offline Tactile

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Re: Lots of Keyboard Building Questions
« Reply #2 on: Wed, 14 September 2016, 13:58:04 »

Also are there people who put a giant sticker on their backplate and if so are there any pictures of how it looks


What does this mean?

As to 60% boards, once I tried one I was hooked. Remember that just about all of the 60% PCBs & kits you find are fully programmable, so you get to add layers and put things just where you want them.
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Offline Owntrolf

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Re: Lots of Keyboard Building Questions
« Reply #3 on: Wed, 14 September 2016, 15:14:49 »
Like I heard of some people vinyl wrapping the entire plate like this
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=65237.0

Except what I'm thinking of is a covering the plate with a giant sticker

Offline zeltner

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Re: Lots of Keyboard Building Questions
« Reply #4 on: Wed, 14 September 2016, 16:01:47 »
I think you can get all the parts you need for a phantom TKL build from https://mechanicalkeyboards.com

Offline captsis

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Re: Lots of Keyboard Building Questions
« Reply #5 on: Wed, 14 September 2016, 16:55:02 »
+1 for winkeyless. Their PCBs are great. Doesnt have to be THAT expensive if you solder it yourself, cheap chineseium case, gateron switches, TaiHao caps etc

Offline Owntrolf

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Re: Lots of Keyboard Building Questions
« Reply #6 on: Wed, 14 September 2016, 20:11:22 »
I think you can get all the parts you need for a phantom TKL build from https://mechanicalkeyboards.com
Arent Phantoms not nkey rollover?

Im mostly looking for something with nkey rollover

If I do plan to get a 60% ill probably see if I can order a plate/pcb from bangood or something then a case from aliexpress .-. switches maybe from massdrop
« Last Edit: Wed, 14 September 2016, 20:43:24 by Owntrolf »

Offline Findecanor

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Re: Lots of Keyboard Building Questions
« Reply #7 on: Wed, 14 September 2016, 21:56:34 »
Phantom has diodes for n-key rollover, yes. With TMK firmware you will get it also over USB.
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Offline kasakka

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Re: Lots of Keyboard Building Questions
« Reply #8 on: Thu, 15 September 2016, 14:49:45 »
For 60% owners, what is the appeal of using it? isn't using the F keys harder and no arrowpad makes some games hard to set up

Better ergonomics as you need to spread your hands less compared to a full size or even TKL keyboard. Programmability means that nothing is really lost. While the Vortex Pok3r (the bare minimum pre-assembled, mostly programmable 60%) can not do numpad scancodes, all other programmable keyboard can if you have a game that uses them. For arrow keys you can again program them to where you want them. I replace the bottom right corner modifiers with arrow keys normally because I never use those keys otherwise. Other typical option is Fn+IJKL or Fn+WASD, obviously a bit awkward for games that use arrows for movement etc.

Using function keys is actually easier because you don't need to to reach further than the number row or whatever you want to use for them. A pretty common option is to replace the Caps Lock with Fn key which makes Fn+number very easy to do. I'm currently playing Deus Ex Mankind Divided and have no problems using the function keys in that.

While getting used to a 60% takes some practice, once you get comfortable with it it becomes second nature and you won't miss dedicated keys for many of the keys you probably didn't use that much in the first place. I mean I don't even have Caps lock or Insert mapped on my keyboard because I never use them.