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Offline lal

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« Reply #50 on: Tue, 19 January 2010, 09:38:38 »
Crap.  I was expecting a little more flaming...

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I really feel sorry for you lal. To think that you compare me to the evils that have been done by cultists the world over is really disturbing.


Well, I'm sorry to disturb you and I don't wanted to say you're as evil as scientology.  Not yet.  But sometimes Topre fans just sound a lot like "believers".

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...I happen to enjoy a keyboard you don't approve of...


BTW, you're free to make fun of mechanical switch lovers and especially me, too :)
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Offline lowpoly

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« Reply #51 on: Tue, 19 January 2010, 09:39:15 »
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ええオハイオ州赤ん坊は僕のだもん！

:-)

Congrats!
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Offline lal

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« Reply #52 on: Tue, 19 January 2010, 09:40:50 »
Congrats, webwit.
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Offline itlnstln

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« Reply #53 on: Tue, 19 January 2010, 09:46:09 »
I figured webwit would snag it.  Either him or ripster.
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Offline itlnstln

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« Reply #54 on: Tue, 19 January 2010, 10:55:41 »
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If I start hanging around Yahoo Japan and Ebay.de I'll be admitting I'm an addict.
 
$230 US - not bad given that numpad's rarity.

I figured as much.  I was leaning more towards witweb winning this one.
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Offline ch_123

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« Reply #55 on: Tue, 19 January 2010, 11:54:40 »
Huzzah!
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Offline itlnstln

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« Reply #56 on: Tue, 19 January 2010, 12:25:30 »
Here is some more info on these 'boards translated by Sandy.
 
 
 
I don't think this was posted before.  My apologies if it was.
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Offline ch_123

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« Reply #57 on: Tue, 19 January 2010, 12:27:03 »
Lam made an excellent review of the A01. Just search 'IBM A01' in Geekhack's wonderful and unused search engine.
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Offline lowpoly

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« Reply #58 on: Tue, 19 January 2010, 12:28:59 »
Just click on the link in my sig.
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Offline itlnstln

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« Reply #59 on: Tue, 19 January 2010, 13:18:13 »
The self-contained mechanisms are almost worth it alone.  It should make the 'board easy to clean and maintain.
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Offline rdjack21

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« Reply #60 on: Tue, 19 January 2010, 14:34:21 »
Congrats webwit I'm glad someone from here got it. BTW there is also a full size one listed as well right now.
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Keyboards
Topre Capacitive: Realforce 87U, Realforce 86U, HHKB Pro 2, Topre MD01B0, Topre HE0100, Sun Short Type, OEM NEO CS (x2), NISSHO Electronics KB106DE
Buckling Spring: IBM Model M Space Saver (1291472), Unicomp Customizer x 2
Cherry Brown: Filco FKBN87M/EB, Compaq MX11800
Black Alps: ABS M1
Not so great boards Rare Spring over dome OKI, Sun rack keyboard
Trackballs - Trackman Wheel (3), Trackman marble (2)
Keyboards I still want to get - Happy Hacking Keyboard Pro 2 the White version, Realforce 23U number pad in black and maybe white, μTRON ergo board with Topre switches.
Previously owned - [size=0]SiiG MiniTouch (White Alps), Scorpius M10 (Blue Cherry), IBM Model M13[/size]

Offline rdjack21

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« Reply #61 on: Tue, 19 January 2010, 14:58:54 »
Quote from: lal;152024

BTW, you're free to make fun of mechanical switch lovers and especially me, too :)


Why would I do that? I have actually tried all the mechanical switch boards and even though I don't like all of them I would not give someone a hard time about choosing one because we all like different things. As long as the board is a quality board I have no real problems with it even if I don't like it. I will say why I don't like it but I will not go out of my way to aggravate those that do. And lets be honest even with mechanical boards you need to spend some time with the board before forming a reasoned opinion of the board. And on some especially the lighter boards (Cherry browns) you really need to spend some time on it to fully appreciate the switch. The same goes for Topre switches to really appreciate it you have spend some time using it and like the Cherry browns if you are switching between boards your fingers will not develop the required lighter touch to fully appreciate the switch.

But hey I know you enjoy going out of your way to aggravate and ridicule those of use that have decided that we prefer the Topre. So go right ahead because every time you do all you do is remind us of how ignorant and closed minded you really are. And until you actually use a Topre for enough time to come to a reasoned opinion we will just laugh about how stupid you sound in your rants. Why because even those that don't like Topre boards but have tried them will admit that the Topre boards are a nice high quality board and are rather nice if that is what you like. Most all of us that like the Topre will admit that it is not for everyone and I have advised some to not get one because they have sounded like the type that would not like it (Generally but not the rule those that like heavy switches don't really like the Topre but then again some do).
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Keyboards
Topre Capacitive: Realforce 87U, Realforce 86U, HHKB Pro 2, Topre MD01B0, Topre HE0100, Sun Short Type, OEM NEO CS (x2), NISSHO Electronics KB106DE
Buckling Spring: IBM Model M Space Saver (1291472), Unicomp Customizer x 2
Cherry Brown: Filco FKBN87M/EB, Compaq MX11800
Black Alps: ABS M1
Not so great boards Rare Spring over dome OKI, Sun rack keyboard
Trackballs - Trackman Wheel (3), Trackman marble (2)
Keyboards I still want to get - Happy Hacking Keyboard Pro 2 the White version, Realforce 23U number pad in black and maybe white, μTRON ergo board with Topre switches.
Previously owned - [size=0]SiiG MiniTouch (White Alps), Scorpius M10 (Blue Cherry), IBM Model M13[/size]

Offline Mental Hobbit

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« Reply #62 on: Tue, 19 January 2010, 15:09:31 »
None of my business really... but I have a feeling you're taking this much more seriously than lal.
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Offline itlnstln

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« Reply #63 on: Tue, 19 January 2010, 15:13:38 »
It was more serious some time ago...
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Offline lal

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« Reply #64 on: Tue, 19 January 2010, 15:42:12 »
Ah, that's better.  Fanboy logorrhea :)  Let's see...

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[bla bla] And lets be honest even with mechanical boards you need to spend some time with the board before forming a reasoned opinion of the board.

That's why most prefer clicky and strongly tactile switches.  It's an immediate WOW effect.

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[it needs time to really appreciate Topre and brown MX]

I'm of the same opinion.  Radical changes need time to get used to.  Nevertheless it sounds funny when you talk about "achieving [the higher states of] oneness with cup rubber".

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But hey I know you enjoy going out of your way to aggravate and ridicule those of use that have decided that we prefer the Topre.

Yep.

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... how ignorant and closed minded you really are ... we will just laugh about how stupid you sound ...

Careful, or I'll come and wear out all your rubber domes!

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And until you actually use a Topre for enough time to come to a reasoned opinion...

I don't need to fall into the Topre trap and spend several hundreds of dollars to realize that the "tactility" is basically that of a hq rubber dome.  And I don't need to have used one to realize that charging five times as much as for a mechanical board for a mere rubber dome is just a shameless ripoff.

Your turn.
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Offline ch_123

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« Reply #65 on: Tue, 19 January 2010, 15:43:51 »
Quote from: webwit;152107
So why didn't Unicomp steal the 5576 mini molds?

Because Lexmark made the C01 for IBM Japan. I think it was probably to do with Lexmark owning the right to make Trackpoint keyboards or something like that.

Have you seen the fold out stand on the C01?
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Offline didjamatic

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« Reply #66 on: Tue, 19 January 2010, 15:51:20 »
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ええオハイオ州赤ん坊は僕のだもん！


お祝いの言葉。時間は、キーボードの棚に新しいボックスです
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Offline ch_123

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« Reply #67 on: Tue, 19 January 2010, 15:57:08 »
Quote from: lal;152133
That's why most prefer clicky and strongly tactile switches.  It's an immediate WOW effect.


Actually, it seems to me like a lot of people start off on things like Buckling Springs/Alps etc and then move on to stuff like Cherry Browns and Topres because of the lower force requirements and decreased noise.

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Careful, or I'll come and wear out all your rubber domes!


No wai! Do they wear out like those old Dell ATs and Model Ms I've used on various occasions?
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Offline didjamatic

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« Reply #68 on: Tue, 19 January 2010, 16:41:45 »
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Offline rdjack21

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« Reply #69 on: Tue, 19 January 2010, 17:00:52 »
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I know what to do rdjack21, I won this challenge a while back, but it will make lal sad ;)


This is not a challenge it is a waste of time and why would I care if lal is a closed minded jerk at least where Topre are concerned if he hadn't contributed some decent information on BS boards I would ignore him well actually I do that any ways. Really the only time I wast my time responding to him is when he is bashing new users.

On another note I thought you were using a different broker for getting boards off Yahoo Japan? I noticed that you used Crescent to get the Space saver and num pad.
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Keyboards
Topre Capacitive: Realforce 87U, Realforce 86U, HHKB Pro 2, Topre MD01B0, Topre HE0100, Sun Short Type, OEM NEO CS (x2), NISSHO Electronics KB106DE
Buckling Spring: IBM Model M Space Saver (1291472), Unicomp Customizer x 2
Cherry Brown: Filco FKBN87M/EB, Compaq MX11800
Black Alps: ABS M1
Not so great boards Rare Spring over dome OKI, Sun rack keyboard
Trackballs - Trackman Wheel (3), Trackman marble (2)
Keyboards I still want to get - Happy Hacking Keyboard Pro 2 the White version, Realforce 23U number pad in black and maybe white, μTRON ergo board with Topre switches.
Previously owned - [size=0]SiiG MiniTouch (White Alps), Scorpius M10 (Blue Cherry), IBM Model M13[/size]

Offline ch_123

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« Reply #70 on: Sun, 07 February 2010, 12:41:33 »
Any sign of it yet Webwit?
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Offline rdjack21

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« Reply #71 on: Sun, 07 February 2010, 13:01:13 »
If he is anything like me he is still buying boards to ship with it :)

I've got another CS NEO, Filco 89J, Filco FKB91UJ and a couple of Sun to USB converters sitting in Japan waiting for a couple more boards before I actually ship them. I really want to get a 106U for the parts for a mod I have in mind and maybe a 91U and of course anything else that may show up. But I figure I will ship mine in a few weeks or so.
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Keyboards
Topre Capacitive: Realforce 87U, Realforce 86U, HHKB Pro 2, Topre MD01B0, Topre HE0100, Sun Short Type, OEM NEO CS (x2), NISSHO Electronics KB106DE
Buckling Spring: IBM Model M Space Saver (1291472), Unicomp Customizer x 2
Cherry Brown: Filco FKBN87M/EB, Compaq MX11800
Black Alps: ABS M1
Not so great boards Rare Spring over dome OKI, Sun rack keyboard
Trackballs - Trackman Wheel (3), Trackman marble (2)
Keyboards I still want to get - Happy Hacking Keyboard Pro 2 the White version, Realforce 23U number pad in black and maybe white, μTRON ergo board with Topre switches.
Previously owned - [size=0]SiiG MiniTouch (White Alps), Scorpius M10 (Blue Cherry), IBM Model M13[/size]

Offline ch_123

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« Reply #72 on: Sun, 07 February 2010, 13:12:49 »
I had the opposite situation to you - I tossed out a Sparcstation 5 partially because I had no decent keyboard for it. I do have an original Mouse Systems Sun mouse, the kind that needed a special mousemat.
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Offline rdjack21

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« Reply #73 on: Sun, 07 February 2010, 14:34:10 »
The only reason I have the Sun -> USB converters is for the Sun Short Type Topre keyboard I have. The darn things are hard to come by and when you do find them they are expensive. A few of them showed up on Yahoo Japan for a really good price so I grabed them that way I have a spare for the one I do have.

Man I would have hated to toss out a Sparcstation 5 those were decent machines.
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Keyboards
Topre Capacitive: Realforce 87U, Realforce 86U, HHKB Pro 2, Topre MD01B0, Topre HE0100, Sun Short Type, OEM NEO CS (x2), NISSHO Electronics KB106DE
Buckling Spring: IBM Model M Space Saver (1291472), Unicomp Customizer x 2
Cherry Brown: Filco FKBN87M/EB, Compaq MX11800
Black Alps: ABS M1
Not so great boards Rare Spring over dome OKI, Sun rack keyboard
Trackballs - Trackman Wheel (3), Trackman marble (2)
Keyboards I still want to get - Happy Hacking Keyboard Pro 2 the White version, Realforce 23U number pad in black and maybe white, μTRON ergo board with Topre switches.
Previously owned - [size=0]SiiG MiniTouch (White Alps), Scorpius M10 (Blue Cherry), IBM Model M13[/size]

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« Reply #74 on: Sun, 07 February 2010, 14:45:09 »
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tossed out a Sparcstation 5 partially because I had no decent keyboard


Shame. Used Sun keyboards are $3 here in silicon valley.
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Offline ch_123

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« Reply #75 on: Sun, 07 February 2010, 14:51:45 »
The other reason is that I don't particularly want it. There's then the counter argument in my head that it's a cool workstation, then the argument that I already have one (SGI Indy), then the argument that Solaris is a more usable system. Then there was the argument that I should clutter up my house with more oversized computer parts, and that won out.

Someday I'm going to regret it =P
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Offline rdjack21

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« Reply #76 on: Sun, 07 February 2010, 20:53:58 »
Quote from: webwit;156956
Yeah I got a 001 and A01 with it. It's in customs, will be here in a couple of days.


LOL :) It's not nice to let boards travel alone :)
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Keyboards
Topre Capacitive: Realforce 87U, Realforce 86U, HHKB Pro 2, Topre MD01B0, Topre HE0100, Sun Short Type, OEM NEO CS (x2), NISSHO Electronics KB106DE
Buckling Spring: IBM Model M Space Saver (1291472), Unicomp Customizer x 2
Cherry Brown: Filco FKBN87M/EB, Compaq MX11800
Black Alps: ABS M1
Not so great boards Rare Spring over dome OKI, Sun rack keyboard
Trackballs - Trackman Wheel (3), Trackman marble (2)
Keyboards I still want to get - Happy Hacking Keyboard Pro 2 the White version, Realforce 23U number pad in black and maybe white, μTRON ergo board with Topre switches.
Previously owned - [size=0]SiiG MiniTouch (White Alps), Scorpius M10 (Blue Cherry), IBM Model M13[/size]
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