Deck Legend Tactile vs Filco Blue

[kppanic]

Hello,

Keyboard newbie here!

I am trying to purchase my first mechanical keyboard!  The only one I used was the old IBM ones and deep down inside me I always knew these rubber keyboards were no good.

I am stuck between a Deck Legend Tactile and Filco Majestouch Blue.  I do game but also I type a lot, and this is why I am trying to get the Cherry Blues vice Browns.

The question is, which keyboard will be a better one for me, especially since I am just starting to venture into this?  Deck Legend will obviously cost more, about $50 in fact, but I am willing to get either one.

Please help me!

Oh and I wonder when will the Filco Tenkeyless Otaku Browns and Blues be available in elitekeyboards.com?

[microsoft windows]

You don't have to pay too much for a brown Cherry keyboard.

[itlnstln]

The Deck Legend Tactile has Cherry clears, while tactile like the browns, are quite a bit stiffer. I would go for the Filco in the switch you want. The browns are slightly lighter with no click, and the blues are a little stiffer and clicky (obviously). It just depends on how noisy you want to be.

[kppanic]

You don't have to pay too much for a brown Cherry keyboard.

Ah, I'm at work so can't open that link.  Will try it when I get home.

But I was leaning more towards the Blue, hence my dilemma between the Deck and the Filco.

[itlnstln]

Currently, Deck does not offer anything like a blue switch.  The sell clears and blacks; the blacks are linear.

[kppanic]

The Deck Legend Tactile has Cherry clears, while tactile like the browns, are quite a bit stiffer. I would go for the Filco in the switch you want. The browns are slightly lighter with no click, and the blues are a little stiffer and clicky (obviously). It just depends on how noisy you want to be.

Oh I didn't know that.  

http://www.performance-pcs.com/catalog/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=53_85_233&products_id=26845

this says Blue so I assume that this was a Cherry Blue.

Well I don't think I will be going Cherry clears, as i have no idea how that is like, seeing that I am overwhelmed enough already.

This leaves me with Filco by default!

[microsoft windows]

Ah, I'm at work so can't open that link.  Will try it when I get home.

But I was leaning more towards the Blue, hence my dilemma between the Deck and the Filco.

It's one of these. They're ugly, but they have [Edit: Black] Cherries and go for only 20USD each with free shipping.

[Edit: Go here for a brown cherry keyboard.]

[itlnstln]

Actually, the one in that pic has blacks.  The MX11800 has the browns (and a trackball).

[Mental Hobbit]

But I was leaning more towards the Blue, hence my dilemma between the Deck and the Filco.

If you don't know either switch and the click doesn't bother you too much when gaming, I'd rather recommend blues. Tactility in the browns is so very subtle that I don't find it very helpful when typing.

[kppanic]

If you don't know either switch and the click doesn't bother you too much when gaming, I'd rather recommend blues. Tactility in the browns is so very subtle that I don't find it very helpful when typing.

Thanks for that advice, I do type a lot and i think it's gonna be the blues.


About to click on Pay for a Filco.

[itlnstln]

 
Do it.
 

[elbowglue]

I love the filco blue.  Only drawback is the loudness of the switches.  Cherry g80-3000lscrc2 (on backorder) may potentially be better,  but the boards are backordered till april.

Watch out for the funny shaped enter key on those mx8100's.

[ricercar]

[ricercar]

I found that double-shot key caps changed the sound of my Scorpius M10 Cherry blues from the original thick plastic single shot.

• Thick double-shot caps raised the pitch significantly
• Thin double-shot caps lowered the pitch significantly.

I wonder if this is due to some filtering/absorbtion characteristics of the plastic thickness.

[devilcm3]

I found that double-shot key caps changed the sound of my Scorpius M10 Cherry blues from the original thick plastic single shot.

• Thick double-shot caps raised the pitch significantly
• Thin double-shot caps lowered the pitch significantly.

I wonder if this is due to some filtering/absorbtion characteristics of the plastic thickness.

probably because of the weight of the keys...
i think it is also the reason why model Ms preduce the 'thock' sound due to their thickness

i say , go for filco blues .... unless you really want that backlighting

[elservo]

You better be a part of the Filco Blue Cherry group by now, seriously.

[itlnstln]

I'm with ripster on this one.  I put a few Cherry caps on my Filco, and the pitch was lower.  It was more of a "thock" and less of a "tap."

[didjamatic]

Could also be key material that is making the sound difference more than thickness in this case.

[kppanic]

OK I've done it.  Filco Blue is en route to my shipping address.

I have a strange yet a familiar feeling that this will not be my last mechanical keyboard!

[kriminal]

OK I've done it.  Filco Blue is en route to my shipping address.

I have a strange yet a familiar feeling that this will not be my last mechanical keyboard!

lol my i-rocks and filco kb's havent even reached yet, but im pondering grabbing a realforce in the near future LOL!

i blame geekhack for this =D

[Mental Hobbit]

About time. :tongue:
And yes, you're doomed now.

[ricercar]

you're doomed now.

at least he's not domed.

[kppanic]

OK my Filco still didn't come.........

and I dropkicked my generic microsoft keyboard thinking that i won't need it anymore..

now i have to press every key twice really hard for it to register...

please help mee!

[MsKeyboard]

I blame the Grateful Dead for Ricercar's hearing loss.

Dude, you're supposed to hang around in the back of the crowd with the hippie chicks.

Spinners Rule!

[pfink]

Oh I didn't know that.  

http://www.performance-pcs.com/catalog/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=53_85_233&products_id=26845

this says Blue so I assume that this was a Cherry Blue.

Sorry I'm responding late, I just saw this. The "Blue" in the Deck listing indicates the color of the backlighting: blue on the Ice model, white on the Frost model.

[kppanic]

Sorry I'm responding late, I just saw this. The "Blue" in the Deck listing indicates the color of the backlighting: blue on the Ice model, white on the Frost model.

Cheers for the follow-up,

yeah I found that out that too... A little confusing if you ask me haha.

[sarumont]

Probably too late now, but I just e-mailed Brian @elitekeyboards today.  The Otakus should ship 1st-2nd week of March (Blues, at least).  I'll be waiting (im)patiently.

[meltie]

I just got a Deck Legend with tactile switches. I don't really like the switches, they lean more to the black side than to the brown side IMHO. A little too stiff for my taste, but maybe it just takes some getting used to. So I think the OP made the right choice going for a Filco w/blues.

[JaccoW]

Which one did you get Meltie?
I just ordered a Frost one with tactile switches.
Bloody expenisve too. Ah well, I'll see when it gets here. It's probably just getting used to it.

[meltie]

I ordered a Frost w/tactile but got an Ice w/tactile. Since I got they right switches I don't care that I got the wrong color.

[JaccoW]

But frost is like $10 more isn't it?
I have a red/black/white colour scheme, but then again, I am already using a blue backlit keyboard anyway.

[kppanic]

OK i just got my Filco Blue.

My fingers are having a..... fingasm right now... I don't ever want to stop typing.  My coworker is right now asking me "what the hell is clicking so much"

Anyway,

I got a red esc and the blue WASD keys.  I just replaced them but the WASD keys seem a little more "raised" compared to the other keys.  Is there a "proper" way of pulling and putting these keys?  

Thanks.

[elservo]

So nice seeing someone experience the pleasure of blue cherry switches for the first time.  It will annoy everyone, though.

[kppanic]

:lol:

New keys sometimes take a firm push to seat.  Don't get all gorilla on it but firm wiggling pressure should do it.

I am on it, well, not ON it, but they're not going in any more.

Maybe they are just too new.  Oh my god I am just looking for excuses to type right now.

[Mental Hobbit]

Congrats! I know that "fingasm" feeling with blues. :biggrin1:
I don't have the blue WASD keys, but I suppose the'yre a bit taller to help gamers who are both illiterate and color blind. Probaly not meant for typing.

[itlnstln]

Congrats.  I know that find-any-reason-you-can-to-type feeling.  I haven't really felt it in awhile, though, since I have been using Cherry browns for so long.  I want to try a Topre at some point to complete the cycle of the more common quality switches.  I definitely want to try someone else's 'board first, though, before I spend that kind of money.

[kppanic]

As they say in New Orleans,

Hot Bo Dan.
Cous Cous Cous.
C'mon Tigers
Poosh Poosh Poosh!

Oh god,

I don't know what that means!

Stupid blue keys not aligning with the black keys!

[itlnstln]

LSU Tigers' chants, cheers, etc. all suck.  They over-exaggerate their Creole/Cajun/French roots to some ridiculous and even disrespectful level.  I wish they would all geaux away.

[kppanic]

To the OP.  How's that key going?  I just tried it on my keyboard and it fits perfectly.

I like trucker girl for A,S more but that's a different issue.

They still are a little raised.

I am beginning to think this "batch" doesn't fit perfectly?

Hmm....

[kppanic]

Hello,

cheers for the follow-up,

I don't think I can fix it, for some reason... It is still a little raised,
i actually "slide" a straight edge from the left edge of the key (i.e. from Q->W) then from right side of the key (i.e. F->D) and the straight edge actually gets "stuck" or hits the blue keys, indicating they are raised a little...

My fingers are starting to ignore the fact that they're a little raised, getting used to them more now.

Oh and for some reason the 'W' key was actually stuck for a while.  For example, when i press the 'W' key it would click then not return to its ground state.  I would have to either bang on it with my finger or grab it and force it to pop back out.
I took out the key and reseated it, that seems to have fixed the problem.

[kppanic]

edit: Double Post!

[meltie]

But frost is like $10 more isn't it?
I have a red/black/white colour scheme, but then again, I am already using a blue backlit keyboard anyway.

I don't remember if it cost more, but sending it back to the US after I already paid customs and stuff only for wrong color would certainly be more hassle.

[JaccoW]

True, and it would probaly cost you even ore for importing it again and all that.

[trievalot]

after reading re the clicky blues, im glad im going brown.
So close now! the board is in melbourne!!!!
You know, i started with a single M, now i have 4, an F, a filco brown coming and im looking at a topre. I even looked at a glass cabinet at ikea the other day, and thought "that would be really good for my keyboards". My wife stopped me.

[kriminal]

after reading re the clicky blues, im glad im going brown.
So close now! the board is in melbourne!!!!
You know, i started with a single M, now i have 4, an F, a filco brown coming and im looking at a topre. I even looked at a glass cabinet at ikea the other day, and thought "that would be really good for my keyboards". My wife stopped me.

lol!!! its something about this forum hmm...
yeah my cherry brown was quite audible when bottomed out, i could only imagine how loud the blues are.

[PropNut]

I don't remember if it cost more, but sending it back to the US after I already paid customs and stuff only for wrong color would certainly be more hassle.

I also recieved a Deck Legend Ice (tactile) a couple of weeks ago. I sent it back, lucky for me that I live across Lake Michigan from them. The Keyboard was ok, but I did not like the feel of the Cherry clear switches...they felt...loose. I had seen many pictures of them but sitting side by side with my Model M I was surprised by how old fashioned the case looked. I am sure it is a good keyboard, but for 189.99 USD I think I will keep looking. I really wanted a backlit keyboard otherwise I too would have opted for a Filco.

[itlnstln]

I had seen many pictures of them but sitting side by side with my Model M I was surprised by how old fashioned the case looked.

This.  The Deck Legend is just hideous.  For nearly $200, I would hope to get something that had the looks of a Filco.  At the very least, they could get rid of that horrible font.

[PropNut]

I like some of the Deck keycaps.  I'm gonna crack open a Filco and light up my Esc key someday.

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lol, my wife looked at me like I was a dork when I showed her the skull and cross-bones ESC keycap that came with the Deck. If I showed her that one I think she would have me committed! :D

[JaccoW]

Maybe this doesn't go here, but I found an interesting post on the Deck forums a while ago. (link)

"Currently we will be using the Cherry MX1A-C1NW switches (white plunger, soft tactile, 2.1 oz force). We may switch to a MX1A-G1NW (brown, 1.8 oz force) in the future because I have heard the C1NWs are going away. Depending on sales of the current tactile lineup and demand for a blue "clicky" switch version we may release that option in the future as well."

The main reason they aren't using browns right now is noise.

[JaccoW]

True, and even if the cherry clears did go away, there would still be enough left to keep producing Decks for a while.