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Offline gt1989

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Re: [GB] E8-V1 Custom TKL - SORTING THE BOARDS
« Reply #1500 on: Thu, 09 July 2020, 09:17:24 »
seems that our boards are just sitting around still. However we might get some help, hopefully.

https://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/comments/ho18lw/keyboard_science_keylice_no2_when_tgr_and_keycult/fxf7wti/

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Re: [GB] E8-V1 Custom TKL - SORTING THE BOARDS
« Reply #1501 on: Thu, 09 July 2020, 10:05:45 »
seems that our boards are just sitting around still. However we might get some help, hopefully.

https://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/comments/ho18lw/keyboard_science_keylice_no2_when_tgr_and_keycult/fxf7wti/

I'd lost hope of receiving mine at this point, but it'd be nice if it finally did come in.

Offline gt1989

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Re: [GB] E8-V1 Custom TKL - SORTING THE BOARDS
« Reply #1502 on: Thu, 09 July 2020, 10:10:08 »
seems that our boards are just sitting around still. However we might get some help, hopefully.

https://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/comments/ho18lw/keyboard_science_keylice_no2_when_tgr_and_keycult/fxf7wti/

I'd lost hope of receiving mine at this point, but it'd be nice if it finally did come in.

Same here, I honestly thought that they were sold off. So crazy that the boards have just been sitting around all this time.

Offline mniels

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Re: [GB] E8-V1 Custom TKL - SORTING THE BOARDS
« Reply #1503 on: Mon, 13 July 2020, 07:59:18 »
So, not sure if everyone is aware, but with the Reddit post about Kuang2 coming out with a new board, we found out that all of our boards are sitting in a stack somewhere.  I received a message on Reddit asking for the options I had chosen, address, and a screen shot showing proof of payment.  I pointed him/her to the following spreadsheet:

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/14lYDVr2Y6TSb7o_OJVbKxBEAn1Ct7PbE8NZRSLaID6Y/edit#gid=0

Does anyone recall who the actual payment was made to?  I have tried searching my Paypal transactions, but without a total of the purchase price, I am having a hell of a time finding anything considering how long ago this was.

Offline gt1989

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Re: [GB] E8-V1 Custom TKL - SORTING THE BOARDS
« Reply #1504 on: Mon, 13 July 2020, 08:01:24 »
So, not sure if everyone is aware, but with the Reddit post about Kuang2 coming out with a new board, we found out that all of our boards are sitting in a stack somewhere.  I received a message on Reddit asking for the options I had chosen, address, and a screen shot showing proof of payment.  I pointed him/her to the following spreadsheet:

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/14lYDVr2Y6TSb7o_OJVbKxBEAn1Ct7PbE8NZRSLaID6Y/edit#gid=0

Does anyone recall who the actual payment was made to?  I have tried searching my Paypal transactions, but without a total of the purchase price, I am having a hell of a time finding anything considering how long ago this was.

the payment email was to namhoang159@gmail.com

Offline mniels

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Re: [GB] E8-V1 Custom TKL - SORTING THE BOARDS
« Reply #1505 on: Mon, 13 July 2020, 08:09:18 »
So, not sure if everyone is aware, but with the Reddit post about Kuang2 coming out with a new board, we found out that all of our boards are sitting in a stack somewhere.  I received a message on Reddit asking for the options I had chosen, address, and a screen shot showing proof of payment.  I pointed him/her to the following spreadsheet:

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/14lYDVr2Y6TSb7o_OJVbKxBEAn1Ct7PbE8NZRSLaID6Y/edit#gid=0

Does anyone recall who the actual payment was made to?  I have tried searching my Paypal transactions, but without a total of the purchase price, I am having a hell of a time finding anything considering how long ago this was.

the payment email was to namhoang159@gmail.com



Well, crap.  Nothing under that name.  Hopefully the spreadsheet is enough. Thanks for the info!

Offline gt1989

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Re: [GB] E8-V1 Custom TKL - SORTING THE BOARDS
« Reply #1506 on: Mon, 13 July 2020, 08:15:50 »
So, not sure if everyone is aware, but with the Reddit post about Kuang2 coming out with a new board, we found out that all of our boards are sitting in a stack somewhere.  I received a message on Reddit asking for the options I had chosen, address, and a screen shot showing proof of payment.  I pointed him/her to the following spreadsheet:

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/14lYDVr2Y6TSb7o_OJVbKxBEAn1Ct7PbE8NZRSLaID6Y/edit#gid=0

Does anyone recall who the actual payment was made to?  I have tried searching my Paypal transactions, but without a total of the purchase price, I am having a hell of a time finding anything considering how long ago this was.

the payment email was to namhoang159@gmail.com



Well, crap.  Nothing under that name.  Hopefully the spreadsheet is enough. Thanks for the info!
Do you have an email of your payment? I just tried to look for in PayPal but it only let me go as far as July 2017. Which my invoice is dated for February 2017.

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Offline mniels

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Re: [GB] E8-V1 Custom TKL - SORTING THE BOARDS
« Reply #1507 on: Mon, 13 July 2020, 08:20:29 »
So, not sure if everyone is aware, but with the Reddit post about Kuang2 coming out with a new board, we found out that all of our boards are sitting in a stack somewhere.  I received a message on Reddit asking for the options I had chosen, address, and a screen shot showing proof of payment.  I pointed him/her to the following spreadsheet:

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/14lYDVr2Y6TSb7o_OJVbKxBEAn1Ct7PbE8NZRSLaID6Y/edit#gid=0

Does anyone recall who the actual payment was made to?  I have tried searching my Paypal transactions, but without a total of the purchase price, I am having a hell of a time finding anything considering how long ago this was.

the payment email was to namhoang159@gmail.com



Well, crap.  Nothing under that name.  Hopefully the spreadsheet is enough. Thanks for the info!
Do you have an email of your payment? I just tried to look for in PayPal but it only let me go as far as July 2017. Which my invoice is dated for February 2017.

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Good call.  I found the invoice but it just says that it has been updated.

Offline gt1989

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Re: [GB] E8-V1 Custom TKL - SORTING THE BOARDS
« Reply #1508 on: Mon, 13 July 2020, 09:20:20 »
So, not sure if everyone is aware, but with the Reddit post about Kuang2 coming out with a new board, we found out that all of our boards are sitting in a stack somewhere.  I received a message on Reddit asking for the options I had chosen, address, and a screen shot showing proof of payment.  I pointed him/her to the following spreadsheet:

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/14lYDVr2Y6TSb7o_OJVbKxBEAn1Ct7PbE8NZRSLaID6Y/edit#gid=0

Does anyone recall who the actual payment was made to?  I have tried searching my Paypal transactions, but without a total of the purchase price, I am having a hell of a time finding anything considering how long ago this was.

the payment email was to namhoang159@gmail.com



Well, crap.  Nothing under that name.  Hopefully the spreadsheet is enough. Thanks for the info!
Do you have an email of your payment? I just tried to look for in PayPal but it only let me go as far as July 2017. Which my invoice is dated for February 2017.

Sent from my Pixel 2 XL using Tapatalk


Good call.  I found the invoice but it just says that it has been updated.

Hopefully that's good enough.

Offline Insomnium

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Re: [GB] E8-V1 Custom TKL - SORTING THE BOARDS
« Reply #1509 on: Mon, 13 July 2020, 09:55:39 »
Hi Peeps,

Just thought I would drop a message here as reddit private inbox really sucks .... If you prefer to go discord, you can give me a hello at Insomnium#7656 as well :)

Anyway, Firstly, I'm not JHoang, so please don't think I'm his clone haha, as far as I know, JHoang and his buddy disappeared from the local community way before I joined and met Kuang2 sometimes around 2018.
Secondly, while I understand with all that happened, trust is not something that's easy to be given out, and I would totally feel the same if I'm in your position, but I kindly ask you to trust that I'm trying my best to have some closure to this project, so that Kuang2 name can be freed from this project.

Back to the topic at hand, I have discussed with Kuang2, and he and I both agreed to work together and try to ship the remaining orders that are yet to be fulfilled.  Please understand that a long time has passed, and as I explained on reddit, Kuang2 does not have the record list of orders from JHoang, as Kuang is not the group buy runner. The keyboards have been sitting on his warehouse for a long time, so to ship it, he will need to check the condition of the boards, do some cleaning, and find all the extra parts (if applicable) to your orders, and then we need to buffer for communication time between I - Kuang2 - You as I do not live in Vietnam, hence it will take some time for the board to be shipped out. With that in mind, this is how we propose to move forward:

1. We will prioritize those that have paid shipping to Kuang2 first, so please provide me with the following information: Order ID, Color Option, Current Address and screenshot for order payment and shipping payment via geekhack/reddit/discord pm. Picture of your invoice's email is fine as well.

2. If you have not pay for shipping, we will handle your order after we finished resolving those that already paid for shipping.

3. As I mentioned previously, due to Kuang2 not having the record list of orders, so he has no way of knowing who has paid or has refunded, so he is not in the position to know or prevent anyone who has refunded yet still want to claim his spot in this project, leading to a missing unit for someone else who did not claim refund. In this situation, to us, it's going to be a he said she said situation, where from our side, we claim that we had never sold off/flip a board from the existing stock, while from the customers side, you can claim that you had never demanded a refund. So I would ask everyone to operate in a trust basis, where we will keep a record of those we have fulfilled the boards from this point onward, and if there is any dispute from missing order, I will direct the dispute to everyone who has received your boards to try and look for your order there ...

4. We guaranteed that you will receive a complete TKL kit, which includes a case, plate and PCB. For those that have paid for extra options, we will handle it on case by case basis, and priority will be given to those that have documented proof.

If you have any questions, feel free to dm me through reddit/gh or discord. I'm happy to help :)

« Last Edit: Mon, 13 July 2020, 10:06:51 by Insomnium »

Offline gt1989

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Re: [GB] E8-V1 Custom TKL - SORTING THE BOARDS
« Reply #1510 on: Mon, 13 July 2020, 10:05:27 »
Hi Peeps,

Just thought I would drop a message here as reddit private inbox really sucks .... If you prefer to go discord, you can give me a hello at Insomnium#7656 as well :)

Anyway, Firstly, I'm not JHoang, so please don't think I'm his clone haha, as far as I know, JHoang and his buddy disappeared from the local community way before I joined and met Kuang2 sometimes around 2018.
Secondly, while I understand with all that happened, trust is not something that's easy to be given out, and I would totally feel the same if I'm in your position, but I kindly ask you to trust that I'm trying my best to have some closure to this project, so that Kuang2 name can be freed from this project.

Back to the topic at hand, I have discussed with Kuang2, and he and I both agreed to work together and try to ship the remaining orders that are yet to be fulfilled.  Please understand that a long time has passed, and as I explained on reddit, Kuang2 does not have the record list of orders from JHoang, as Kuang is not the group buy runner. The keyboards have been sitting on his warehouse for a long time, so to ship it, he will need to check the condition of the boards, do some cleaning, and find all the extra parts (if applicable) to your orders, and then we need to buffer for communication time between I - Kuang2 - You as I do not live in Vietnam, hence it will take some time for the board to be shipped out. With that in mind, this is how we propose to move forward:

1. We will prioritize those that have paid shipping to Kuang2 first, so please provide me with the following information: Order ID, Color Option, Current Address and screenshot for order payment and shipping payment. Email of invoice is fine as well.

2. If you have not pay for shipping, we will handle your order after we finished resolving those that already paid for shipping.

3. As I mentioned previously, due to Kuang2 not having the record list of orders, so he has no way of knowing who has paid or has refunded, so he is not in the position to know or prevent anyone who has refunded yet still want to claim his spot in this project, leading to a missing unit for someone else who did not claim refund. In this situation, to us, it's going to be a he said she said situation, where from our side, we claim that we had never sold off/flip a board from the existing stock, while from the customers side, you can claim that you had never demanded a refund. So I would ask everyone to operate in a trust basis, where we will keep a record of those we have fulfilled the boards from this point onward, and if there is any dispute from missing order, I will direct the dispute to everyone who has received your boards to try and look for your order there ...

4. We guaranteed that you will receive a complete TKL kit, which includes a case, plate and PCB. For those that have paid for extra options, we will handle it on case by case basis, and priority will be given to those that have documented proof.

If you have any questions, feel free to dm me through reddit/gh or discord. I'm happy to help :)

Thank you for willing to help us getting the rest of the boards shipped.

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Re: [GB] E8-V1 Custom TKL - SORTING THE BOARDS
« Reply #1511 on: Mon, 13 July 2020, 10:26:08 »
Hi Peeps,

Just thought I would drop a message here as reddit private inbox really sucks .... If you prefer to go discord, you can give me a hello at Insomnium#7656 as well :)

Anyway, Firstly, I'm not JHoang, so please don't think I'm his clone haha, as far as I know, JHoang and his buddy disappeared from the local community way before I joined and met Kuang2 sometimes around 2018.
Secondly, while I understand with all that happened, trust is not something that's easy to be given out, and I would totally feel the same if I'm in your position, but I kindly ask you to trust that I'm trying my best to have some closure to this project, so that Kuang2 name can be freed from this project.

Back to the topic at hand, I have discussed with Kuang2, and he and I both agreed to work together and try to ship the remaining orders that are yet to be fulfilled.  Please understand that a long time has passed, and as I explained on reddit, Kuang2 does not have the record list of orders from JHoang, as Kuang is not the group buy runner. The keyboards have been sitting on his warehouse for a long time, so to ship it, he will need to check the condition of the boards, do some cleaning, and find all the extra parts (if applicable) to your orders, and then we need to buffer for communication time between I - Kuang2 - You as I do not live in Vietnam, hence it will take some time for the board to be shipped out. With that in mind, this is how we propose to move forward:

1. We will prioritize those that have paid shipping to Kuang2 first, so please provide me with the following information: Order ID, Color Option, Current Address and screenshot for order payment and shipping payment via geekhack/reddit/discord pm. Picture of your invoice's email is fine as well.

2. If you have not pay for shipping, we will handle your order after we finished resolving those that already paid for shipping.

3. As I mentioned previously, due to Kuang2 not having the record list of orders, so he has no way of knowing who has paid or has refunded, so he is not in the position to know or prevent anyone who has refunded yet still want to claim his spot in this project, leading to a missing unit for someone else who did not claim refund. In this situation, to us, it's going to be a he said she said situation, where from our side, we claim that we had never sold off/flip a board from the existing stock, while from the customers side, you can claim that you had never demanded a refund. So I would ask everyone to operate in a trust basis, where we will keep a record of those we have fulfilled the boards from this point onward, and if there is any dispute from missing order, I will direct the dispute to everyone who has received your boards to try and look for your order there ...

4. We guaranteed that you will receive a complete TKL kit, which includes a case, plate and PCB. For those that have paid for extra options, we will handle it on case by case basis, and priority will be given to those that have documented proof.

If you have any questions, feel free to dm me through reddit/gh or discord. I'm happy to help :)

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Re: [GB] E8-V1 Custom TKL - SORTING THE BOARDS
« Reply #1512 on: Mon, 13 July 2020, 11:59:52 »
So, not sure if everyone is aware, but with the Reddit post about Kuang2 coming out with a new board, we found out that all of our boards are sitting in a stack somewhere.  I received a message on Reddit asking for the options I had chosen, address, and a screen shot showing proof of payment.  I pointed him/her to the following spreadsheet:

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/14lYDVr2Y6TSb7o_OJVbKxBEAn1Ct7PbE8NZRSLaID6Y/edit#gid=0

Does anyone recall who the actual payment was made to?  I have tried searching my Paypal transactions, but without a total of the purchase price, I am having a hell of a time finding anything considering how long ago this was.

Someone named Nam Hoang in February 2017.

Offline Insomnium

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Re: [GB] E8-V1 Custom TKL - SORTING THE BOARDS
« Reply #1513 on: Mon, 13 July 2020, 13:09:09 »
So, not sure if everyone is aware, but with the Reddit post about Kuang2 coming out with a new board, we found out that all of our boards are sitting in a stack somewhere.  I received a message on Reddit asking for the options I had chosen, address, and a screen shot showing proof of payment.  I pointed him/her to the following spreadsheet:

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/14lYDVr2Y6TSb7o_OJVbKxBEAn1Ct7PbE8NZRSLaID6Y/edit#gid=0

Does anyone recall who the actual payment was made to?  I have tried searching my Paypal transactions, but without a total of the purchase price, I am having a hell of a time finding anything considering how long ago this was.

Someone named Nam Hoang in February 2017.

Correct, Nam Hoang is JHoang, the GB runner. I have no clue why mniels need to pay extra on his order, it might be JHoang asking for more money to ship the keyboard but any money paid to JHoang, was not given to Kuang to do the shipping at all, hence Kuang requested for additional payment for shipping from his end. From the screenshot I have received from two others, the shipping fee that they paid via Paypal should be to Tran Mai Hanh with email maihanh@kuang2.net.

Offline mniels

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Re: [GB] E8-V1 Custom TKL - SORTING THE BOARDS
« Reply #1514 on: Mon, 13 July 2020, 13:15:55 »
I am not finding anything in my email with the maihanh@kuang2.net email address in regards to paypal.  I am sure that I paid for shipping, and it is possible that the email was deleted after all this time.  I can't imagine that I would not have paid for the shipping, especially after shelling out more than $600 for the board and the extras.  I am not very keen on paying anything else, especially considering the track record of the GB.  I feel like $600 plus a 3 year wait is enough.

Offline Insomnium

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Re: [GB] E8-V1 Custom TKL - SORTING THE BOARDS
« Reply #1515 on: Mon, 13 July 2020, 13:33:25 »
I am not finding anything in my email with the maihanh@kuang2.net email address in regards to paypal.  I am sure that I paid for shipping, and it is possible that the email was deleted after all this time.  I can't imagine that I would not have paid for the shipping, especially after shelling out more than $600 for the board and the extras.  I am not very keen on paying anything else, especially considering the track record of the GB.  I feel like $600 plus a 3 year wait is enough.

I completely understand where you are coming from, but to be fair to Kuang he himself did not receive any money from you (via JHoang) to ship your keyboard either so imo, it would be unfair to ask him to bear the cost for a GB he did not run. As I stated in my first post, since you likely did not pay Kuang for the shipping ( I will ask Kuang to confirm this as well), may I ask you to wait and let me handle the the shipping for the other people who have paid Kuang first? I will also discuss with him on how to handle similar cases to yours to see if we can come to a resolution that will be fair to both party.

Offline mniels

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Re: [GB] E8-V1 Custom TKL - SORTING THE BOARDS
« Reply #1516 on: Mon, 13 July 2020, 13:56:47 »
I am not finding anything in my email with the maihanh@kuang2.net email address in regards to paypal.  I am sure that I paid for shipping, and it is possible that the email was deleted after all this time.  I can't imagine that I would not have paid for the shipping, especially after shelling out more than $600 for the board and the extras.  I am not very keen on paying anything else, especially considering the track record of the GB.  I feel like $600 plus a 3 year wait is enough.

I completely understand where you are coming from, but to be fair to Kuang he himself did not receive any money from you (via JHoang) to ship your keyboard either so imo, it would be unfair to ask him to bear the cost for a GB he did not run. As I stated in my first post, since you likely did not pay Kuang for the shipping ( I will ask Kuang to confirm this as well), may I ask you to wait and let me handle the the shipping for the other people who have paid Kuang first? I will also discuss with him on how to handle similar cases to yours to see if we can come to a resolution that will be fair to both party.

That is fine, I would rather get it right, so go ahead and check with Kuang.

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Re: [GB] E8-V1 Custom TKL - SORTING THE BOARDS
« Reply #1517 on: Sun, 02 August 2020, 09:54:33 »
Anyone receive any updates whatsoever from Insomnium in regards to Kuang and their boards?  :-\
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Offline Insomnium

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Re: [GB] E8-V1 Custom TKL - SORTING THE BOARDS
« Reply #1518 on: Sun, 02 August 2020, 10:37:46 »
Anyone receive any updates whatsoever from Insomnium in regards to Kuang and their boards?  :-\
Haha just nice when I was about to post an update here  ;D

Kuang is taking care of some of personal stuffs which would wrap up next week, so hopefully he will have time to sort the boards and ship the 4 confirmed orders (E15, E17, E65 and E85) soon.