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Offline bluejeans

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Is it true that cherry greens feel a little like buckling spring?
« on: Mon, 13 February 2017, 17:09:36 »
Not so much the actuation and bottoming out but the pressing as a whole.  Seen several claims about this online.

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Re: Is it true that cherry greens feel a little like buckling spring?
« Reply #1 on: Mon, 13 February 2017, 17:20:21 »
No. Not al all.
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Re: Is it true that cherry greens feel a little like buckling spring?
« Reply #2 on: Mon, 13 February 2017, 17:51:21 »
Is it the same except for all their differences? LoL

Buckling spring actuation force vary from 60g to 70g depending on implementation and key travel is 3.7mm
MX Green actuation is 80g with a key travel of 4mm.

The brake-hysteresis-make patterns are different on both technologies and unfortunately it also defines the distinctive feel of the switches.

I'm sorry, nothing compares to buckling springs.

Buy one one each and decide for yourself :-)

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Re: Is it true that cherry greens feel a little like buckling spring?
« Reply #3 on: Mon, 13 February 2017, 18:33:04 »
They feel and sound as if you were typing on an old electric type writer machine.

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Re: Is it true that cherry greens feel a little like buckling spring?
« Reply #4 on: Mon, 13 February 2017, 19:34:25 »


I compiled a comparison between buckling springs and Cherry MX Green.  There's plenty more to a switch than weight.  Due to the design of the switch, the buckling action results in a much sharper drop in force and a lower required force to the end of the switch action.  MX Green, like most Cherry switches, is fundamentally linear because the spring that holds the slider up never releases any of its pressure until the switch itself is released.
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Re: Is it true that cherry greens feel a little like buckling spring?
« Reply #5 on: Mon, 13 February 2017, 21:44:07 »
Very good comparison.

Properly manufactured from a good batch Cherry MX blues and greens do feel pretty nice to type on.  That much is true.  But nothing compares to the Model F keyboard.  Nothing.
The ONLY thing better than a Model F keyboard were Beam Spring keyboards, that cannot be used on modern computers, without VERY complicated conversions, and even then, they are simply FAR too large to be used as anything except a show-off piece.

Of course, Beam springs were an evolution of the IBM Selectric mechanism.  Nothing beats the feel of an IBM selectric.




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Re: Is it true that cherry greens feel a little like buckling spring?
« Reply #6 on: Tue, 06 June 2017, 22:18:43 »
Greens always feel lighter than BS to me.  I have both keyboards, and switch between them fairly regularly.  BS is a definite preference.
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Re: Is it true that cherry greens feel a little like buckling spring?
« Reply #7 on: Tue, 06 June 2017, 23:29:17 »
Greens always feel lighter than BS to me.  I have both keyboards, and switch between them fairly regularly.  BS is a definite preference.
I'd love to get my hands on a BS I could use in my office.
I've got a terminal board at the moment I got from GreyAmbience, I don't know if that could be converted and used.
Pls to advise, BS master! :D

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Re: Is it true that cherry greens feel a little like buckling spring?
« Reply #8 on: Wed, 07 June 2017, 05:33:10 »
Greens always feel lighter than BS to me.  I have both keyboards, and switch between them fairly regularly.  BS is a definite preference.
I'd love to get my hands on a BS I could use in my office.
I've got a terminal board at the moment I got from GreyAmbience, I don't know if that could be converted and used.
Pls to advise, BS master! :D

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Re: Is it true that cherry greens feel a little like buckling spring?
« Reply #9 on: Wed, 07 June 2017, 10:19:52 »
No, Matias clicks are the closest thing you will find in a new switch. Though, the spring rate is lower, you can always switch those out.