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Online megaforce93

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Re: [GB] Dolphin and EM7 Raffle - Closes March 1st 12 am EST
« Reply #150 on: Wed, 01 March 2017, 11:28:33 »
mfw moneygram?

http://imgur.com/S3aqDYp

Even a 3%-5% increase in price with Paypal to avoid any potential currency conversion round issues would be better than moneygram. I hope you guys strongly reconsider this.

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Re: [GB] Dolphin and EM7 Raffle - Closes March 1st 12 am EST
« Reply #151 on: Wed, 01 March 2017, 11:30:43 »
I'd advise everyone to read the consumer protection section. There is absolutely no protection, and I would highly advise _BMW_M3_ and Lin to use PayPal.

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MoneyGram never recommends sending money to a stranger. Any monies received by a stranger cannot be recovered and unfortunately you will not get your money refunded back to you.

I read the link.  I really want a Dolphin, but the payment method is not good.

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Re: [GB] Dolphin and EM7 Raffle - Closes March 1st 12 am EST
« Reply #152 on: Wed, 01 March 2017, 11:56:02 »
Lin is contacting PayPal tomorrow to see what he can do. I already sent him cash via MoneyGram. He's run several successful GBs already. Money goes straight to him, not to me. Also, all shipping comes from Lin. I'll update with the results of his call tomorrow.
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Re: [GB] Dolphin and EM7 Raffle - Closes March 1st 12 am EST
« Reply #153 on: Wed, 01 March 2017, 12:10:59 »
Lin is contacting PayPal tomorrow to see what he can do. I already sent him cash via MoneyGram. He's run several successful GBs already. Money goes straight to him, not to me. Also, all shipping comes from Lin. I'll update with the results of his call tomorrow.


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Re: [GB] Dolphin and EM7 Raffle - Closes March 1st 12 am EST
« Reply #154 on: Wed, 01 March 2017, 12:14:00 »
Lin is contacting PayPal tomorrow to see what he can do. I already sent him cash via MoneyGram. He's run several successful GBs already. Money goes straight to him, not to me. Also, all shipping comes from Lin. I'll update with the results of his call tomorrow.

His rep means nothing if there is no protection whatsoever.  You're not gonna get orders with moneygram.

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Re: [GB] Dolphin and EM7 Raffle - Closes March 1st 12 am EST
« Reply #155 on: Wed, 01 March 2017, 12:22:10 »
Lin is contacting PayPal tomorrow to see what he can do. I already sent him cash via MoneyGram. He's run several successful GBs already. Money goes straight to him, not to me. Also, all shipping comes from Lin. I'll update with the results of his call tomorrow.

I think it's got less to do with not trusting Lin, and more so seeing what's happened with some group buys has put a bad taste in people's mouth (Ivan?).
« Last Edit: Wed, 01 March 2017, 12:27:14 by dgneo »
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Re: [GB] Dolphin and EM7 Raffle - Closes March 1st 12 am EST
« Reply #156 on: Wed, 01 March 2017, 12:28:05 »
Also I suggest you sort the whole lists (2 lists) of users randomly and post them, and just go down the lists when there are issues or drop outs; to keep it fair and prevent begging posts.
« Last Edit: Wed, 01 March 2017, 12:29:52 by finalarcadia »

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Re: [GB] Dolphin and EM7 Raffle - Closes March 1st 12 am EST
« Reply #157 on: Wed, 01 March 2017, 12:45:34 »
hello friend
I'm Lx3 (linlinlin)

sorry for use Moneygram .

I used the money gram because it was easy for me.
I already tried bmw3 and money grams. It was very convenient.

I tried to use PayPal to withdraw $ 800 to my Korean account, but my account was restricted.
PayPal has not yet heard the reason.


I have been doing a lot of co - production in Korea and have not caused any problems at all.
I hope that this will give you confidence.
I'm different from Druger.
He also cheated many people's money in Korea.

I know very well what you are worried about.

I will contact PayPal tomorrow to discuss this issue.

If it is difficult to solve, it is inevitably necessary to use a moneygram.




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Re: [GB] Dolphin and EM7 Raffle - Closes March 1st 12 am EST
« Reply #158 on: Wed, 01 March 2017, 13:00:53 »
If Moneygram had any form of buyer protection it would be different but even their website says there isn't any

Dig the look of the EM 7 but not going through something like Paypal is pretty risky

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Re: [GB] Dolphin and EM7 Raffle - Closes March 1st 12 am EST
« Reply #159 on: Wed, 01 March 2017, 13:44:29 »
600 dollars and no protection? accounts with barely any history? this groupbuy is looking sketchy as ****

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Re: [GB] Dolphin and EM7 Raffle - Closes March 1st 12 am EST
« Reply #160 on: Wed, 01 March 2017, 13:46:38 »
600 dollars and no protection? accounts with barely any history? this groupbuy is looking sketchy as ****
it's okay bro, you don't have to join.
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Re: [GB] Dolphin and EM7 Raffle - Closes March 1st 12 am EST
« Reply #161 on: Wed, 01 March 2017, 13:52:50 »
600 dollars and no protection? accounts with barely any history? this groupbuy is looking sketchy as ****
it's okay bro, you don't have to join.

You're one of the makers or GB providers aren't you?
You can't possibly go around and say things like moneygram is okay and you don't care... lol

Come on man.

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Re: [GB] Dolphin and EM7 Raffle - Closes March 1st 12 am EST
« Reply #162 on: Wed, 01 March 2017, 13:55:22 »
so many other groupbuys use paypal. what the hell is going on?

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Re: [GB] Dolphin and EM7 Raffle - Closes March 1st 12 am EST
« Reply #163 on: Wed, 01 March 2017, 13:56:55 »
It's alright folks! Yuktsi will buy every single board with money gram, then sell them to everyone else via PayPal. The hero everyone needs!
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Re: [GB] Dolphin and EM7 Raffle - Closes March 1st 12 am EST
« Reply #164 on: Wed, 01 March 2017, 14:08:04 »
I wouldn't join a sketchy groupbuy with moneygram even for a 20 dollar pack of springs,

COMPARED TO SIX HUNDRED DOLLARS? NO BUYER PROTECTION? OH MY ****ING GOD.

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Re: [GB] Dolphin and EM7 Raffle - Closes March 1st 12 am EST
« Reply #165 on: Wed, 01 March 2017, 14:10:18 »
I think the issue is with lin trying to withdraw funds or something. PayPal isn't as nice international as they are in the States.

Maybe we all should see how the raffle goes first to see which buyers are affected and if they'd prefer MoneyGram or PayPal.

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Re: [GB] Dolphin and EM7 Raffle - Closes March 1st 12 am EST
« Reply #166 on: Wed, 01 March 2017, 14:13:29 »
I think the issue is with lin trying to withdraw funds or something. PayPal isn't as nice international as they are in the States.

Maybe we all should see how the raffle goes first to see which buyers are affected and if they'd prefer MoneyGram or PayPal.

then bmw m3 can collect payments via paypal and send the total as moneygram and assume liability for it all.

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Re: [GB] Dolphin and EM7 Raffle - Closes March 1st 12 am EST
« Reply #167 on: Wed, 01 March 2017, 14:18:45 »
I think the issue is with lin trying to withdraw funds or something. PayPal isn't as nice international as they are in the States.

Maybe we all should see how the raffle goes first to see which buyers are affected and if they'd prefer MoneyGram or PayPal.

then bmw m3 can collect payments via paypal and send the total as moneygram and assume liability for it all.

A single person liable for $53,000+ worth of goods?

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Re: [GB] Dolphin and EM7 Raffle - Closes March 1st 12 am EST
« Reply #168 on: Wed, 01 March 2017, 14:21:50 »
I wouldn't join a sketchy groupbuy with moneygram even for a 20 dollar pack of springs,

COMPARED TO SIX HUNDRED DOLLARS? NO BUYER PROTECTION? OH MY ****ING GOD.

so many other groupbuys use paypal. what the hell is going on?

600 dollars and no protection? accounts with barely any history? this groupbuy is looking sketchy as ****
it's okay bro, you don't have to join.

You're one of the makers or GB providers aren't you?
You can't possibly go around and say things like moneygram is okay and you don't care... lol

Come on man.

I wouldn't join a sketchy groupbuy with moneygram even for a 20 dollar pack of springs,

COMPARED TO SIX HUNDRED DOLLARS? NO BUYER PROTECTION? OH MY ****ING GOD.
I mean if you are not comfortable with dealing through moneygram, you don't have to join.

Lynn would have used PayPal, if it's more approachable like how it used to be. It's no fun when PayPal decided to hold 30% of the total transaction for the next 3-6 months. We are talking about 60k US$ worth of transaction. What if USD - KRW drops tremendous over the next few months under the leadership of President Trump? Well, that's something we can't predict? Plus Lynn is probably making only 15% profit out of the GB, max. I don't think it's a risk worth taking. Considering he is not doing this full time.

Perhaps all GB should be done through Massdrop in future, but some of you hate Massdrop. So idk.  :'(
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Re: [GB] Dolphin and EM7 Raffle - Closes March 1st 12 am EST
« Reply #169 on: Wed, 01 March 2017, 14:24:46 »
I think the issue is with lin trying to withdraw funds or something. PayPal isn't as nice international as they are in the States.

Maybe we all should see how the raffle goes first to see which buyers are affected and if they'd prefer MoneyGram or PayPal.

then bmw m3 can collect payments via paypal and send the total as moneygram and assume liability for it all.

A single person liable for $53,000+ worth of goods?

why is that a question?

every gb leader is the same in that they're liable for a large sum of money. just look at elton, he's done it like what 6 times now with at least 40k each gb
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Re: [GB] Dolphin and EM7 Raffle - Closes March 1st 12 am EST
« Reply #170 on: Wed, 01 March 2017, 14:38:33 »
I think the issue is with lin trying to withdraw funds or something. PayPal isn't as nice international as they are in the States.

Maybe we all should see how the raffle goes first to see which buyers are affected and if they'd prefer MoneyGram or PayPal.

then bmw m3 can collect payments via paypal and send the total as moneygram and assume liability for it all.

A single person liable for $53,000+ worth of goods?

why is that a question?

every gb leader is the same in that they're liable for a large sum of money. just look at elton, he's done it like what 6 times now with at least 40k each gb


You guys are aware that if I were to receive $60k of cash through PayPal, I would be audited by the IRS, right? You can't just receive $60k and then shovel it to South Korea and expect the US Government to be okay with that. Imagine the taxes on that...

I really understand the solution isn't ideal... but if PayPal doesn't help us out, our hands are somewhat tied.
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Re: [GB] Dolphin and EM7 Raffle - Closes March 1st 12 am EST
« Reply #171 on: Wed, 01 March 2017, 14:39:31 »
I wouldn't join a sketchy groupbuy with moneygram even for a 20 dollar pack of springs,

COMPARED TO SIX HUNDRED DOLLARS? NO BUYER PROTECTION? OH MY ****ING GOD.

so many other groupbuys use paypal. what the hell is going on?



600 dollars and no protection? accounts with barely any history? this groupbuy is looking sketchy as ****
it's okay bro, you don't have to join.

You're one of the makers or GB providers aren't you?
You can't possibly go around and say things like moneygram is okay and you don't care... lol

Come on man.

I wouldn't join a sketchy groupbuy with moneygram even for a 20 dollar pack of springs,

COMPARED TO SIX HUNDRED DOLLARS? NO BUYER PROTECTION? OH MY ****ING GOD.
I mean if you are not comfortable with dealing through moneygram, you don't have to join.

Lynn would have used PayPal, if it's more approachable like how it used to be. It's no fun when PayPal decided to hold 30% of the total transaction for the next 3-6 months. We are talking about 60k US$ worth of transaction. What if USD - KRW drops tremendous over the next few months under the leadership of President Trump? Well, that's something we can't predict? Plus Lynn is probably making only 15% profit out of the GB, max. I don't think it's a risk worth taking. Considering he is not doing this full time.

Perhaps all GB should be done through Massdrop in future, but some of you hate Massdrop. So idk.  :'(

So then GB leader can increase the price of the GB.

We're already paying over $500-600 and at this point the marginal increase of GB price isn't a problem.
I'd rather pay extra for a 100% protection than use this sketchy moneygram.

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Re: [GB] Dolphin and EM7 Raffle - Closes March 1st 12 am EST
« Reply #172 on: Wed, 01 March 2017, 14:46:29 »
My knee jerk reaction to reading moneygram was $KAM. But after reading what yutski and bmw have said, I'm kinda on the fence about paying through moneygram

A fool and his money are soon parted HA
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Re: [GB] Dolphin and EM7 Raffle - Closes March 1st 12 am EST
« Reply #173 on: Wed, 01 March 2017, 14:47:56 »
I think the issue is with lin trying to withdraw funds or something. PayPal isn't as nice international as they are in the States.

Maybe we all should see how the raffle goes first to see which buyers are affected and if they'd prefer MoneyGram or PayPal.

then bmw m3 can collect payments via paypal and send the total as moneygram and assume liability for it all.

A single person liable for $53,000+ worth of goods?

why is that a question?

every gb leader is the same in that they're liable for a large sum of money. just look at elton, he's done it like what 6 times now with at least 40k each gb


You guys are aware that if I were to receive $60k of cash through PayPal, I would be audited by the IRS, right? You can't just receive $60k and then shovel it to South Korea and expect the US Government to be okay with that. Imagine the taxes on that...

I really understand the solution isn't ideal... but if PayPal doesn't help us out, our hands are somewhat tied.

you were under the assumption that you're tax exempt?  :))

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Re: [GB] Dolphin and EM7 Raffle - Closes March 1st 12 am EST
« Reply #174 on: Wed, 01 March 2017, 14:48:28 »
I think the issue is with lin trying to withdraw funds or something. PayPal isn't as nice international as they are in the States.

Maybe we all should see how the raffle goes first to see which buyers are affected and if they'd prefer MoneyGram or PayPal.

then bmw m3 can collect payments via paypal and send the total as moneygram and assume liability for it all.

A single person liable for $53,000+ worth of goods?

why is that a question?

every gb leader is the same in that they're liable for a large sum of money. just look at elton, he's done it like what 6 times now with at least 40k each gb


You guys are aware that if I were to receive $60k of cash through PayPal, I would be audited by the IRS, right? You can't just receive $60k and then shovel it to South Korea and expect the US Government to be okay with that. Imagine the taxes on that...

I really understand the solution isn't ideal... but if PayPal doesn't help us out, our hands are somewhat tied.

I don't really have any skin in this debate, but I will say from personal experience in dealing with the IRS all the time, no you would not get audited for that.  You would report $60k of income and then report the cost of the materials, shipping, and other fees as expenses, with the difference being taxable to you.  People run GBs through PayPal accounts all the time and none have reported having tax issues with the IRS, unless of course you are not reporting the income, which would really only matter if you are a US citizen.
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Re: [GB] Dolphin and EM7 Raffle - Closes March 1st 12 am EST
« Reply #175 on: Wed, 01 March 2017, 14:48:38 »
I wouldn't join a sketchy groupbuy with moneygram even for a 20 dollar pack of springs,

COMPARED TO SIX HUNDRED DOLLARS? NO BUYER PROTECTION? OH MY ****ING GOD.

so many other groupbuys use paypal. what the hell is going on?



600 dollars and no protection? accounts with barely any history? this groupbuy is looking sketchy as ****
it's okay bro, you don't have to join.

You're one of the makers or GB providers aren't you?
You can't possibly go around and say things like moneygram is okay and you don't care... lol

Come on man.

I wouldn't join a sketchy groupbuy with moneygram even for a 20 dollar pack of springs,

COMPARED TO SIX HUNDRED DOLLARS? NO BUYER PROTECTION? OH MY ****ING GOD.
I mean if you are not comfortable with dealing through moneygram, you don't have to join.

Lynn would have used PayPal, if it's more approachable like how it used to be. It's no fun when PayPal decided to hold 30% of the total transaction for the next 3-6 months. We are talking about 60k US$ worth of transaction. What if USD - KRW drops tremendous over the next few months under the leadership of President Trump? Well, that's something we can't predict? Plus Lynn is probably making only 15% profit out of the GB, max. I don't think it's a risk worth taking. Considering he is not doing this full time.

Perhaps all GB should be done through Massdrop in future, but some of you hate Massdrop. So idk.  :'(

So then GB leader can increase the price of the GB.

We're already paying over $500-600 and at this point the marginal increase of GB price isn't a problem.
I'd rather pay extra for a 100% protection than use this sketchy moneygram.

You still don't understand the problem. If PayPal holds his money ($20-30k), how is he supposed to put the order in? Use $20-30k of his own money? I'm not trying to be rude, but we don't know of another option. Do you have another option? I'm all ears. 

Believe me, I would love to use PayPal. It's simple and easy, except for the person receiving the money. As of right now, it's not possible.
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Re: [GB] Dolphin and EM7 Raffle - Closes March 1st 12 am EST
« Reply #176 on: Wed, 01 March 2017, 14:50:08 »
I wouldn't join a sketchy groupbuy with moneygram even for a 20 dollar pack of springs,

COMPARED TO SIX HUNDRED DOLLARS? NO BUYER PROTECTION? OH MY ****ING GOD.

so many other groupbuys use paypal. what the hell is going on?



600 dollars and no protection? accounts with barely any history? this groupbuy is looking sketchy as ****
it's okay bro, you don't have to join.

You're one of the makers or GB providers aren't you?
You can't possibly go around and say things like moneygram is okay and you don't care... lol

Come on man.

I wouldn't join a sketchy groupbuy with moneygram even for a 20 dollar pack of springs,

COMPARED TO SIX HUNDRED DOLLARS? NO BUYER PROTECTION? OH MY ****ING GOD.
I mean if you are not comfortable with dealing through moneygram, you don't have to join.

Lynn would have used PayPal, if it's more approachable like how it used to be. It's no fun when PayPal decided to hold 30% of the total transaction for the next 3-6 months. We are talking about 60k US$ worth of transaction. What if USD - KRW drops tremendous over the next few months under the leadership of President Trump? Well, that's something we can't predict? Plus Lynn is probably making only 15% profit out of the GB, max. I don't think it's a risk worth taking. Considering he is not doing this full time.

Perhaps all GB should be done through Massdrop in future, but some of you hate Massdrop. So idk.  :'(

So then GB leader can increase the price of the GB.

We're already paying over $500-600 and at this point the marginal increase of GB price isn't a problem.
I'd rather pay extra for a 100% protection than use this sketchy moneygram.

You still don't understand the problem. If PayPal holds his money ($20-30k), how is he supposed to put the order in? Use $20-30k of his own money? I'm not trying to be rude, but we don't know of another option. Do you have another option? I'm all ears. 

Believe me, I would love to use PayPal. It's simple and easy, except for the person receiving the money. As of right now, it's not possible.

Perhaps it'd be worth looking into converting to a PayPal Business Account (if you haven't already).
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Re: [GB] Dolphin and EM7 Raffle - Closes March 1st 12 am EST
« Reply #177 on: Wed, 01 March 2017, 14:54:40 »
Ring PayPal and ask to remove the limit on income. It took 5 minutes to verify my account and remove the 2.5k limit - I took over $38k. PayPal only hold money when you don't set your account up properly.

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Re: [GB] Dolphin and EM7 Raffle - Closes March 1st 12 am EST
« Reply #178 on: Wed, 01 March 2017, 14:56:00 »
I wouldn't join a sketchy groupbuy with moneygram even for a 20 dollar pack of springs,

COMPARED TO SIX HUNDRED DOLLARS? NO BUYER PROTECTION? OH MY ****ING GOD.
Thanks ,one people left and I have higher chance to win  :p :p
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Re: [GB] Dolphin and EM7 Raffle - Closes March 1st 12 am EST
« Reply #179 on: Wed, 01 March 2017, 14:59:34 »
I wouldn't join a sketchy groupbuy with moneygram even for a 20 dollar pack of springs,

COMPARED TO SIX HUNDRED DOLLARS? NO BUYER PROTECTION? OH MY ****ING GOD.
Thanks ,one people left and I have higher chance to win  :p :p

All I see is our chances going up! I didnt even have to buy peoples spots /kappa

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Re: [GB] Dolphin and EM7 Raffle - Closes March 1st 12 am EST
« Reply #180 on: Wed, 01 March 2017, 15:02:18 »
I wouldn't join a sketchy groupbuy with moneygram even for a 20 dollar pack of springs,

COMPARED TO SIX HUNDRED DOLLARS? NO BUYER PROTECTION? OH MY ****ING GOD.
Thanks ,one people left and I have higher chance to win  :p :p

I wouldn't join a sketchy groupbuy with moneygram even for a 20 dollar pack of springs,

COMPARED TO SIX HUNDRED DOLLARS? NO BUYER PROTECTION? OH MY ****ING GOD.
Thanks ,one people left and I have higher chance to win  :p :p

All I see is our chances going up! I didnt even have to buy peoples spots /kappa

If everyone drops out we can just pick up everyone's spots

corner the dolphin/em7 market and resale for obscene amounts of cash :^)
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Re: [GB] Dolphin and EM7 Raffle - Closes March 1st 12 am EST
« Reply #181 on: Wed, 01 March 2017, 15:09:27 »
Ring PayPal and ask to remove the limit on income. It took 5 minutes to verify my account and remove the 2.5k limit - I took over $38k. PayPal only hold money when you don't set your account up properly.
Please xondat.You don't even know how Paypal treat their Asian customer.When I was living in Vietnam,they used to hold me $5000 for 3 months ,and everytime I tried to contact them ,they said :" We are checking". So I can understand lin's problem.
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Re: [GB] Dolphin and EM7 Raffle - Closes March 1st 12 am EST
« Reply #182 on: Wed, 01 March 2017, 15:11:13 »
Ring PayPal and ask to remove the limit on income. It took 5 minutes to verify my account and remove the 2.5k limit - I took over $38k. PayPal only hold money when you don't set your account up properly.
Please xondat.You don't even know how Paypal treat their Asian customer.When I was living in Vietnam,they used to hold me $5000 for 3 months ,and everytime I tried to contact them ,they said :" We are checking". So I can understand lin's problem.

Well if Lin is the problem, why can't BMW pay the factory?

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Re: [GB] Dolphin and EM7 Raffle - Closes March 1st 12 am EST
« Reply #183 on: Wed, 01 March 2017, 15:16:30 »
I guess people are dropping out? If the MOQ was not met because of it, could I join more than 1 board for each EM7 and Dolphin?  :p

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Re: [GB] Dolphin and EM7 Raffle - Closes March 1st 12 am EST
« Reply #184 on: Wed, 01 March 2017, 15:45:44 »
lol

you guys are funny.

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Re: [GB] Dolphin and EM7 Raffle - Closes March 1st 12 am EST
« Reply #185 on: Wed, 01 March 2017, 15:46:36 »
I wouldn't join a sketchy groupbuy with moneygram even for a 20 dollar pack of springs,

COMPARED TO SIX HUNDRED DOLLARS? NO BUYER PROTECTION? OH MY ****ING GOD.

so many other groupbuys use paypal. what the hell is going on?



600 dollars and no protection? accounts with barely any history? this groupbuy is looking sketchy as ****
it's okay bro, you don't have to join.

You're one of the makers or GB providers aren't you?
You can't possibly go around and say things like moneygram is okay and you don't care... lol

Come on man.

I wouldn't join a sketchy groupbuy with moneygram even for a 20 dollar pack of springs,

COMPARED TO SIX HUNDRED DOLLARS? NO BUYER PROTECTION? OH MY ****ING GOD.
I mean if you are not comfortable with dealing through moneygram, you don't have to join.

Lynn would have used PayPal, if it's more approachable like how it used to be. It's no fun when PayPal decided to hold 30% of the total transaction for the next 3-6 months. We are talking about 60k US$ worth of transaction. What if USD - KRW drops tremendous over the next few months under the leadership of President Trump? Well, that's something we can't predict? Plus Lynn is probably making only 15% profit out of the GB, max. I don't think it's a risk worth taking. Considering he is not doing this full time.

Perhaps all GB should be done through Massdrop in future, but some of you hate Massdrop. So idk.  :'(

So then GB leader can increase the price of the GB.

We're already paying over $500-600 and at this point the marginal increase of GB price isn't a problem.
I'd rather pay extra for a 100% protection than use this sketchy moneygram.

You still don't understand the problem. If PayPal holds his money ($20-30k), how is he supposed to put the order in? Use $20-30k of his own money? I'm not trying to be rude, but we don't know of another option. Do you have another option? I'm all ears. 

Believe me, I would love to use PayPal. It's simple and easy, except for the person receiving the money. As of right now, it's not possible.

I understand.  That's why I said to increase the price then by whatever much the PayPal is gonna hold onto.
Problem solved. lol

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Re: [GB] Dolphin and EM7 Raffle - Closes March 1st 12 am EST
« Reply #186 on: Wed, 01 March 2017, 15:48:29 »
I understand.  That's why I said to increase the price then by whatever much the PayPal is gonna hold onto.
Problem solved. lol

How much will PayPal hold?

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Re: [GB] Dolphin and EM7 Raffle - Closes March 1st 12 am EST
« Reply #187 on: Wed, 01 March 2017, 15:53:12 »
I understand.  That's why I said to increase the price then by whatever much the PayPal is gonna hold onto.
Problem solved. lol

How much will PayPal hold?

According to yuktsi, 30% (not sure it that's a solid number or not).

Lol $690 for a KB? Not even including the shipping cost? lol. $796 with shipping to US with that 30% hike. Don't think I could swallow that.

I'd say if PP isn't an option, we can rehash who's still down with the GB and see how many participants we have left.
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Re: [GB] Dolphin and EM7 Raffle - Closes March 1st 12 am EST
« Reply #188 on: Wed, 01 March 2017, 16:11:54 »
I understand.  That's why I said to increase the price then by whatever much the PayPal is gonna hold onto.
Problem solved. lol

How much will PayPal hold?

According to yuktsi, 30% (not sure it that's a solid number or not).

Lol $690 for a KB? Not even including the shipping cost? lol. $796 with shipping to US with that 30% hike. Don't think I could swallow that.

I'd say if PP isn't an option, we can rehash who's still down with the GB and see how many participants we have left.

Hold =/= price raise. Fees are tops 5%.

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Re: [GB] Dolphin and EM7 Raffle - Closes March 1st 12 am EST
« Reply #189 on: Wed, 01 March 2017, 16:13:48 »
I am afraid you can count me out.  I wish I could participate, but if something goes wrong (which can happen) we just don't have any recourse. For $100, maybe, but not this much.


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Re: [GB] Dolphin and EM7 Raffle - Closes March 1st 12 am EST
« Reply #190 on: Wed, 01 March 2017, 16:50:41 »
Ring PayPal and ask to remove the limit on income. It took 5 minutes to verify my account and remove the 2.5k limit - I took over $38k. PayPal only hold money when you don't set your account up properly.
Please xondat.You don't even know how Paypal treat their Asian customer.When I was living in Vietnam,they used to hold me $5000 for 3 months ,and everytime I tried to contact them ,they said :" We are checking". So I can understand lin's problem.

Well if Lin is the problem, why can't BMW pay the factory?
Because the factory is in Korea, not china. Unless Lin wants to use the same manufacturer as x60.

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Re: [GB] Dolphin and EM7 Raffle - Closes March 1st 12 am EST
« Reply #191 on: Wed, 01 March 2017, 16:51:38 »
The circumstances are a little unusual, but I'm still in it.

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Re: [GB] Dolphin and EM7 Raffle - Closes March 1st 12 am EST
« Reply #192 on: Wed, 01 March 2017, 16:53:16 »
The circumstances are a little unusual, but I'm still in it.
Same

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Re: [GB] Dolphin and EM7 Raffle - Closes March 1st 12 am EST
« Reply #193 on: Wed, 01 March 2017, 16:56:52 »
Ring PayPal and ask to remove the limit on income. It took 5 minutes to verify my account and remove the 2.5k limit - I took over $38k. PayPal only hold money when you don't set your account up properly.
Please xondat.You don't even know how Paypal treat their Asian customer.When I was living in Vietnam,they used to hold me $5000 for 3 months ,and everytime I tried to contact them ,they said :" We are checking". So I can understand lin's problem.

Well if Lin is the problem, why can't BMW pay the factory?
Because the factory is in Korea, not china. Unless Lin wants to use the same manufacturer as x60.

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Ring PayPal and ask to remove the limit on income. It took 5 minutes to verify my account and remove the 2.5k limit - I took over $38k. PayPal only hold money when you don't set your account up properly.
Please xondat.You don't even know how Paypal treat their Asian customer.When I was living in Vietnam,they used to hold me $5000 for 3 months ,and everytime I tried to contact them ,they said :" We are checking". So I can understand lin's problem.

Well if Lin is the problem, why can't BMW pay the factory?
Lol,Have Duck ever let elton pay directly to the factory  :))
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Re: [GB] Dolphin and EM7 Raffle - Closes March 1st 12 am EST
« Reply #194 on: Wed, 01 March 2017, 17:07:38 »
Dammit, now I am having second thoughts.  Crap!

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Re: [GB] Dolphin and EM7 Raffle - Closes March 1st 12 am EST
« Reply #195 on: Wed, 01 March 2017, 17:11:41 »
Dammit, now I am having second thoughts.  Crap!
If we both got in, you can pay me via PayPal if you want
I will help you to transfer to Lynn 

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Re: [GB] Dolphin and EM7 Raffle - Closes March 1st 12 am EST
« Reply #196 on: Wed, 01 March 2017, 17:12:45 »
Dammit, now I am having second thoughts.  Crap!
If we both got in, you can pay me via PayPal if you want
I will help you to transfer to Lynn 

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i want to do this, if you're looking for a third person :)
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Re: [GB] Dolphin and EM7 Raffle - Closes March 1st 12 am EST
« Reply #197 on: Wed, 01 March 2017, 17:13:31 »
Dammit, now I am having second thoughts.  Crap!
If we both got in, you can pay me via PayPal if you want
I will help you to transfer to Lynn 

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i want to this, if you're looking for a third person :)

OK, lets see how this shakes out.

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Re: [GB] Dolphin and EM7 Raffle - Closes March 1st 12 am EST
« Reply #198 on: Wed, 01 March 2017, 18:02:48 »
So, as a final post for this discussion:

1. MoneyGram is currently the only payment option. Lin will contact PayPal tomorrow to see if it would be possible to do transactions through PayPal without funds being withheld. If PayPal is not a viable option, we will continue with MoneyGram. If you win the raffle but don't like the payment option, please respond to my email and tell me you're not interested or post on the thread. (Or post on the thread ahead of time so I don't waste my time sending 100+ emails)

2. The MoneyGram payment will go directly to Lin. This was already decided before the group buy. It eliminates a lot of hassles, fees, taxes, etc. Prior to the group buy, Lin and I decided this would be the best way. If for whatever reason you deem that Lin and I are not trustworthy, please PM me or post here and I will remove you from the list.

3. My role in the group buy: Lin asked that I handle the posts, questions, countless PMs, forms, emails, etc. etc. to prevent him from handling that. His English isn't at the level of someone like Kin, so I agreed to help him out - call me his "secretary" if you'd like. ;) I'm receiving a keyboard out of this and nothing else. From the beginning, I did this for the community. I'm newer to the community and hadn't yet contributed, so what better way than to bring the Dolphin and EM7 to GH?

If you have any questions or comments, please PM me.

I want to thank everyone else for being so understanding, helpful and for supporting this GB. This is my first go at a GB and Lin's first on GH as well. We're doing everything we can to make this a smooth, easy experience. We understand not everything is ideal, but understand that we're doing our best.

Also, if you'd like to meet me in person (in case you think I'm some fantasy, made-up person), I'll be at the Dayton, OH keyboard meet-up that I'll be helping put together in May. I was also at the Cleveland, OH meet-up a few months ago.


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[GB] Dolphin and EM7 Raffle - Drawing on Saturday, March 4th!
« Reply #199 on: Wed, 01 March 2017, 18:50:15 »
Were the raffle winners notified?


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