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[GB] VE.A Wooden Wrist Wrests - Shipping Soon
« on: Tue, 07 March 2017, 00:26:14 »
Order Form
Current Orders

Everything is ready to go! 

Made in Idaho by bendrexl

Wood Types

- shipping will be billed at a later time.  4lbs approx. weight.

- Orders Close on 3/24/17 at midnight EST.

- There are two price charts.  The top one is for bulk pricing if 4 of a particular primary wood are ordered.  Note that Ebonized oak / oak are in the same category for bulk orders.

- Expect to see a few small, minor mounting holes on the back side. These will be filled and sanded smooth. 

- There is an MOQ of 20 sets of wrest in order to make this happen.

- Thanks for everyone's patience <3
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« Reply #1 on: Tue, 07 March 2017, 11:03:16 »
Are the price breakpoints per wood type or overall number of orders?

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Re: [GB] VE.A Wooden Wrist Wrests
« Reply #2 on: Tue, 07 March 2017, 11:35:35 »
Are the price breakpoints per wood type or overall number of orders?

Both - the cost of every order goes down as the total order count increases - that's the left-to-right columns.

Each wood type will drop to its own "bulk" price once 4 sets using that as the primary are ordered - that's the top vs bottom chart.

It's a little complicated, but we want to be as transparent as possible.

EDIT: Here's a chart showing the current pricing. Note that quantities are manually updated, so may not include very recent orders: https://goo.gl/eAY71B

EDIT 2: The chart is now auto-updated every few min.
« Last Edit: Tue, 07 March 2017, 18:44:08 by bendrexl »

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« Reply #3 on: Tue, 07 March 2017, 12:20:35 »
Submitted.  Would be good to get a count of each option to see if we could consolidate some orders to make better pricing.  It is great there are so many options, but on the other hand, there are so many options it may dilute the orders and harder to get to bulk pricing.  Any inquiries from our friends in South Korea?  I hope they buy a lot :D

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« Reply #4 on: Tue, 07 March 2017, 13:16:47 »
Dat Wenge...  :eek:


But dat price...  :-[


I may have to go Walnut.  Need to wait and see where order numbers are falling.

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Re: [GB] VE.A Wooden Wrist Wrests
« Reply #5 on: Tue, 07 March 2017, 17:32:51 »
Dat Wenge...  :eek:


But dat price...  :-[


I may have to go Walnut.  Need to wait and see where order numbers are falling.

Pls son, cmon and go wenge!!!

Two questions:

1. Will there be updates on how many orders are made for each until the groupbuy ends?  (A spreadsheet of this with total counts would be awesome.)

2. Per #1, would we be able to switch our orders at the end if there's something that meets a pretty good #, so we can help the GB overall stick to a minimum # of variants for our supplier (and also get better discounts/hit higher MOQ breakpoints)?

Cheers and thanks as always!

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« Reply #6 on: Tue, 07 March 2017, 18:10:29 »
Dat Wenge...  :eek:


But dat price...  :-[


I may have to go Walnut.  Need to wait and see where order numbers are falling.

Pls son, cmon and go wenge!!!

Two questions:

1. Will there be updates on how many orders are made for each until the groupbuy ends?  (A spreadsheet of this with total counts would be awesome.)

2. Per #1, would we be able to switch our orders at the end if there's something that meets a pretty good #, so we can help the GB overall stick to a minimum # of variants for our supplier (and also get better discounts/hit higher MOQ breakpoints)?

Cheers and thanks as always!

You could change you order by PM'ing me before invoicing starts.   I will make a spreadsheet which orders publicly

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Re: [GB] VE.A Wooden Wrist Wrests
« Reply #7 on: Tue, 07 March 2017, 18:20:22 »
may consider changing the form... kinda annoying to have to enter a "0" for everything i dont want. might lead to errant submissions.

anyway, i'm in for wenge/zebrawood. hope some more ppl join me  ;D

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Re: [GB] VE.A Wooden Wrist Wrests
« Reply #8 on: Tue, 07 March 2017, 18:55:05 »
What type of finish are you going to do on the Open Grain & Open Pore wood?

Wenge is a pain in the butt to work with, that stuff is literally toxic. Getting a smooth finish with Wenge and Zebra wood is quite a difficult task since the Pores tend to be large and are randomly spread out. Are you going to use clear filler?



Personally, I love high gloss mirror like finish, I use the following steps for most of my project finishes:

Apply appropriate Filler (normally I work a lot with Open Grain wood like Walnut, so I tend to stick with water based filler)
scrape off excess after dry
use burlap to remove rest of excess until all filler is removed
220 grit light sanding
apply sealer coat of lacquer
scuff sanding with 320 grit
8 coats of lacquer then let dry for 8-10 days
Level finish wet sand using dish soap and water and 400 grit
1500 grit
wipe down
1800 grit
wipe down
2400 grit
wipe down
3200 grit
wipe down
3600 grit
wipe down
6000 grit
wipe down
8000 grit
wipe down
12000 grit
wipe down
Finish with 16000 grit
Final wipe down
Pumice Stone mixed with dish soap and water to form a paste... rub it in
Rottenstone powder made into paste with our trusty dish soap and water. Then a whole lot of hard rubbing.

Result: Glass Wood


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Re: [GB] VE.A Wooden Wrist Wrests
« Reply #9 on: Tue, 07 March 2017, 19:44:47 »
Personally, I love high gloss mirror like finish, I use the following steps for most of my project finishes:

(snipped)

Result: Glass Wood

That treatment would put even glass to shame!  :eek:

Wood finishing is a bit of a cult, so without starting any religious debates I'll just say that we're keeping it simple, practical, and natural looking - all woods will be completely sealed, durable and highly resistant to sweat/oils from skin. The final texture will be smudge-hiding satin with the grain texture sealed but not completely filled, we're not hiding the personality of these woods. Zebrawood especially is known for displaying huge open pores at various points within the grain, part of the attraction for most folks is the unique nature of these woods.

If you would like to finish it yourself, we can make arrangements to apply whatever sealer you prefer and leave the rest up to you? :)

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Re: [GB] VE.A Wooden Wrist Wrests
« Reply #10 on: Wed, 08 March 2017, 01:00:47 »
A little amused that the most expensive wrist-rest is the one that's being bought the most. Also a little amused that it was the end-game of all my suggestions from the previous thread put together, even though no one suggested they agreed with me. :P

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« Reply #11 on: Wed, 08 March 2017, 01:57:56 »
What a nice way to round up a great keyboard :)

Thanks for putting this together!

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Re: [GB] VE.A Wooden Wrist Wrests
« Reply #12 on: Wed, 08 March 2017, 08:35:36 »
What type of finish are you going to do on the Open Grain & Open Pore wood?

Wenge is a pain in the butt to work with, that stuff is literally toxic. Getting a smooth finish with Wenge and Zebra wood is quite a difficult task since the Pores tend to be large and are randomly spread out. Are you going to use clear filler?



Personally, I love high gloss mirror like finish, I use the following steps for most of my project finishes:

Apply appropriate Filler (normally I work a lot with Open Grain wood like Walnut, so I tend to stick with water based filler)
scrape off excess after dry
use burlap to remove rest of excess until all filler is removed
220 grit light sanding
apply sealer coat of lacquer
scuff sanding with 320 grit
8 coats of lacquer then let dry for 8-10 days
Level finish wet sand using dish soap and water and 400 grit
1500 grit
wipe down
1800 grit
wipe down
2400 grit
wipe down
3200 grit
wipe down
3600 grit
wipe down
6000 grit
wipe down
8000 grit
wipe down
12000 grit
wipe down
Finish with 16000 grit
Final wipe down
Pumice Stone mixed with dish soap and water to form a paste... rub it in
Rottenstone powder made into paste with our trusty dish soap and water. Then a whole lot of hard rubbing.

Result: Glass Wood

That's a ridiculous amount of finishing work but I'm sure your projects look amazing.  You lost me at
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8 coats of lacquer then let dry for 8-10 days





And I honestly don't expect that level of quality for this GB, even at these prices.

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Re: [GB] VE.A Wooden Wrist Wrests
« Reply #13 on: Thu, 09 March 2017, 18:02:01 »
A little amused that the most expensive wrist-rest is the one that's being bought the most. Also a little amused that it was the end-game of all my suggestions from the previous thread put together, even though no one suggested they agreed with me. :P

So true! I was also surprised - I guess you had the vision for it :D

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« Reply #14 on: Thu, 09 March 2017, 18:53:53 »
A little amused that the most expensive wrist-rest is the one that's being bought the most. Also a little amused that it was the end-game of all my suggestions from the previous thread put together, even though no one suggested they agreed with me. :P

Your vision inspired us.

Will we hit bulk pricing with zebrawood or wenge since 5 zebrawood/wenge and 5 wenge/zebrawood were picked so far?
« Last Edit: Thu, 09 March 2017, 18:55:41 by mer6 »

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« Reply #15 on: Thu, 09 March 2017, 20:41:38 »
Get in on more oak and black walnut my dudes!

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« Reply #16 on: Fri, 10 March 2017, 01:13:24 »
is payment due on the 24?

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« Reply #17 on: Fri, 10 March 2017, 08:25:23 »
is payment due on the 24?

ordering due.

Will be one week to pay the order after.

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« Reply #18 on: Sat, 11 March 2017, 00:43:09 »
Will we hit bulk pricing with zebrawood or wenge since 5 zebrawood/wenge and 5 wenge/zebrawood were picked so far?

Already hit at 4 each, so the GB status chart is currently showing the $20-25 per unit discount for wenge/zebra (that's what I get if I order a full board vs "retail" custom cut, I'm just passing that on). Oak is a smaller discount dollar-wise ~$5-6 discount, and walnut would be ~$10-12 if I remember right. I don't have the numbers right in front of me so don't quote this post, but they're all there in the order form.

EDIT: I should've added that price for *all* styles start dropping incrementally once we get over 20 orders, the chart showing that drop schedule is linked in the order form.
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« Reply #19 on: Sat, 11 March 2017, 07:14:36 »
Will we hit bulk pricing with zebrawood or wenge since 5 zebrawood/wenge and 5 wenge/zebrawood were picked so far?

Already hit at 4 each, so the GB status chart is currently showing the $20-25 per unit discount for wenge/zebra (that's what I get if I order a full board vs "retail" custom cut, I'm just passing that on). Oak is a smaller discount dollar-wise ~$5-6 discount, and walnut would be ~$10-12 if I remember right. I don't have the numbers right in front of me so don't quote this post, but they're all there in the order form.

EDIT: I should've added that price for *all* styles start dropping incrementally once we get over 20 orders, the chart showing that drop schedule is linked in the order form.

Awesome, cheers.

C'mon y'all we're so close - one more order to 20!

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« Reply #20 on: Sat, 11 March 2017, 19:46:24 »
Got out first drop out.  back to 18.  adjusting the sheet.  this is a no flake zone

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« Reply #21 on: Tue, 14 March 2017, 11:44:15 »
Thinkin of placing an order, but i wants da zebrawood- 1 quantity = 1 set (id get left & right wristrests?)
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« Reply #22 on: Tue, 14 March 2017, 12:25:57 »
Thinkin of placing an order, but i wants da zebrawood- 1 quantity = 1 set (id get left & right wristrests?)

Yes, ordering quantity 1 will get you a full set, left & right.

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« Reply #23 on: Tue, 14 March 2017, 15:31:01 »
Are we expecting any orders from our Korean friends? Saw zypher posted that a number of them were interested.

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« Reply #24 on: Tue, 14 March 2017, 16:13:13 »
Thinkin of placing an order, but i wants da zebrawood- 1 quantity = 1 set (id get left & right wristrests?)

Yes, ordering quantity 1 will get you a full set, left & right.

thanks sir~ !
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« Reply #25 on: Tue, 14 March 2017, 18:13:20 »
Are we expecting any orders from our Korean friends? Saw zypher posted that a number of them were interested.

Tried selling some neon greens to Zefyr, and he wasn't a fan of 'aftermarket prices'  perhaps that's why.  We're very close to MOQ either way

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« Reply #26 on: Wed, 15 March 2017, 12:15:18 »
Price update: I was able to lower the minimum qty for the Oak bulk price to 4, so the realtime chart now reflects that price drop.

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« Reply #27 on: Thu, 16 March 2017, 14:30:17 »
We've crossed the 20 MOQ  :thumb:, so prices will start dropping incrementally for all styles as orders come in!

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« Reply #28 on: Thu, 16 March 2017, 15:43:36 »
We've crossed the 20 MOQ  :thumb:, so prices will start dropping incrementally for all styles as orders come in!

Yuuuuuuuus!  One week left to go, cmon everyone, step right up and get yer beautiful VE.A wrist rests!!

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« Reply #29 on: Mon, 20 March 2017, 07:45:39 »
In  ;)
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« Reply #31 on: Thu, 23 March 2017, 21:17:45 »
In  ;)

Thank you for your order!

What's the status of the Black Walnut & Padauk etc. people?  Can they get notified that they need to change over their order or drop (re: MOQ)?

What's the general status of when invoices will go out (I assume during or after that concern is resolved)?

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« Reply #32 on: Fri, 24 March 2017, 00:43:11 »
What's the status of the Black Walnut & Padauk etc. people?  Can they get notified that they need to change over their order or drop (re: MOQ)?

No need to switch, those woods species just haven't hit their individual bulk pricing.

We will fill those orders at the current price shown on the chart - they still benefit from the overall cost share savings.

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« Reply #33 on: Fri, 24 March 2017, 07:09:57 »
What's the status of the Black Walnut & Padauk etc. people?  Can they get notified that they need to change over their order or drop (re: MOQ)?

No need to switch, those woods species just haven't hit their individual bulk pricing.

We will fill those orders at the current price shown on the chart - they still benefit from the overall cost share savings.

Ah okay ^^

Thanks again to you and alien for doing this, I'm excited to receive my invoice and wait patiently (read: frantically) see the end product.

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« Reply #34 on: Fri, 24 March 2017, 13:07:04 »
I just received this email, it isn't clear if it is for this group buy.  Any idea?

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Greetings!

We're wrapping up the group buy, and since you were an "early backer" we don't have a public / forum user name for you (we added that field to the form later).

Would you please reply to this message with your forum / reddit / whatever user name so I can update your order?

Thanks for helping make this happen!

- Ben (bendrexl)
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« Reply #35 on: Fri, 24 March 2017, 13:08:13 »
I just received this email, it isn't clear if it is for this group buy.  Any idea?

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Sent: Friday, March 24, 2017 10:04 AM
Subject: VE.A GB confirmation - need forum user name

Greetings!

We're wrapping up the group buy, and since you were an "early backer" we don't have a public / forum user name for you (we added that field to the form later).

Would you please reply to this message with your forum / reddit / whatever user name so I can update your order?

Thanks for helping make this happen!

- Ben (bendrexl)

Yes it's for this group buy.
« Last Edit: Fri, 24 March 2017, 21:26:58 by trizkut »

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Re: [GB] VE.A Wooden Wrist Wrests
« Reply #36 on: Fri, 24 March 2017, 13:12:39 »
Forgot about this, guess its do or die time  :-\

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« Reply #37 on: Fri, 24 March 2017, 13:14:03 »
I just received this email, it isn't clear if it is for this group buy.  Any idea?

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From: *** [mailto:*****@gmail.com]
Sent: Friday, March 24, 2017 10:04 AM
Subject: VE.A GB confirmation - need forum user name

Greetings!

We're wrapping up the group buy, and since you were an "early backer" we don't have a public / forum user name for you (we added that field to the form later).

Would you please reply to this message with your forum / reddit / whatever user name so I can update your order?

Thanks for helping make this happen!

- Ben (bendrexl)

Yes it's for this group buy.

You can't tell litster by his wood species preference?  Come on!
« Last Edit: Fri, 24 March 2017, 21:27:11 by trizkut »

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« Reply #38 on: Fri, 24 March 2017, 14:54:48 »
You can't tell litster by his wood species preference?  Come on!

yeah, I should have known ;)

(if a mod happens by, would you mind removing my email addy from the above quotes? Hate to make things too easy for the spambots, right?)

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« Reply #39 on: Fri, 24 March 2017, 15:19:29 »
Still trying to make up my mind about wood color over here tbh.

Loving the zebra wenge combo, but wondering if it would go well with a gray wooden desk.

In the sample pics black walnut looks fully gray to me, but finishing seems to add a brownish tint to it.

Is the tint really a result of the finish?
Would I be able to get a raw black walnut, and would adding s clear finish maintain the gray color?

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« Reply #40 on: Fri, 24 March 2017, 16:00:01 »
In the sample pics black walnut looks fully gray to me, but finishing seems to add a brownish tint to it.

Is the tint really a result of the finish?

Yes, you're exactly right - the raw wood looks flat gray, and any finish will amplify more of the underlying color, no matter the wood. Oil-based finishes tend to penetrate deeper, and make the color deeper / warmer (which is usually exactly what you want). 

Would I be able to get a raw black walnut, and would adding s clear finish maintain the gray color?

A water-based finish is an option - these don't penetrate as much and affect the color less, though it still won't be grey. Stained oak could be a possibility also.

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« Reply #41 on: Fri, 24 March 2017, 16:14:24 »
Thx for the quick reply bendrexl! =)

So you suggested getting a raw oak and doing a gray stain on it, correct?

Incase I'll choose to try this, would it be possible to get one of the cutting left overs as shown in pic 7 to test stains on by any chance? xD

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« Reply #42 on: Fri, 24 March 2017, 17:55:00 »
(if a mod happens by, would you mind removing my email addy from the above quotes? Hate to make things too easy for the spambots, right?)

Sorry about including your email address.  I remove it from my post.  if other people who quoted me could do the same, that would be great. 

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« Reply #43 on: Fri, 24 March 2017, 17:57:56 »
So you suggested getting a raw oak and doing a gray stain on it, correct?

If you have a specific effect in mind and are trying to match something, I'd look around for some other projects for some real-world example photos.

Incase I'll choose to try this, would it be possible to get one of the cutting left overs as shown in pic 7 to test stains on by any chance? xD

Since I'll be packing them up myself, that should be doable. I'll have lots of those bits around ;)

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« Reply #44 on: Fri, 24 March 2017, 18:30:11 »
I went with black walnut & maple. =)

If possible I would like to get a completely raw and unfinished version, and a few cutting leftovers to test with please.

Thx for the help again bendrexl!

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« Reply #45 on: Fri, 24 March 2017, 21:12:28 »
Tough choices, gonna go with the Wenge w/ Padauk.

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« Reply #46 on: Fri, 24 March 2017, 22:21:46 »
Screw it. I'm in this for ya buddy.

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« Reply #47 on: Fri, 24 March 2017, 23:16:19 »
I went with black walnut & maple. =)

If possible I would like to get a completely raw and unfinished version, and a few cutting leftovers to test with please.

Thx for the help again bendrexl!

Noted; we'll make it happen - yours will be truly custom!

Tough choices, gonna go with the Wenge w/ Padauk.

An excellent choice, that's a striking combo.

Screw it. I'm in this for ya buddy.

Welcome to GB, I've been dying to get wood ordered and kick this into high gear.

Any last minute undecideds better get on it before alienman closes the polls, last chance!


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« Reply #48 on: Sat, 25 March 2017, 00:03:49 »
Totally a potato when it comes to woodworking, but what type of finish will these be? Matte or gloss?

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Re: [GB] VE.A Wooden Wrist Wrests
« Reply #49 on: Sat, 25 March 2017, 00:47:19 »
Totally a potato when it comes to woodworking, but what type of finish will these be? Matte or gloss?

matte.  The form is supposed to be closed, but I'll do it tomorrow, so order now if you want it.