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Re: [IC] ION Keyboards: Xeno - 75% Custom
« Reply #150 on: Mon, 14 August 2017, 06:20:24 »
oh, what I wanted to mention when you're at the task of getting PCB design done: pls support ISO ;)


as for the F-Row spacers, I don't really mind if it'll be with or without, allthough with would look sexier if you can still encompass the Predator style LEDs :)

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Re: [IC] ION Keyboards: Xeno - 75% Custom
« Reply #151 on: Tue, 15 August 2017, 06:02:01 »
I am quite the nublet here on Geekhack. All boards and caps I own are through Massdrop.

My question is: If this IC ends up becoming a group buy, what will the price for a beauty such as this most likely be? I know there is no pricing, I am just trying to find price range, to mentally prepare for financial ruin.
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Re: [IC] ION Keyboards: Xeno - 75% Custom
« Reply #152 on: Tue, 15 August 2017, 06:40:49 »
I am quite the nublet here on Geekhack. All boards and caps I own are through Massdrop.

My question is: If this IC ends up becoming a group buy, what will the price for a beauty such as this most likely be? I know there is no pricing, I am just trying to find price range, to mentally prepare for financial ruin.

I would calculate 350$ so you aren't surprised. If it's less, then that's a plus.


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Re: [IC] ION Keyboards: Xeno - 75% Custom
« Reply #153 on: Tue, 15 August 2017, 07:00:39 »
to mentally prepare for financial ruin.

If you aren't already doing this, you're doing it wrong.


I would calculate 350$ so you aren't surprised. If it's less, then that's a plus.


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$350 would be cool,  ideally it would be less but I have no estimates at this point.

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Re: [IC] ION Keyboards: Xeno - 75% Custom
« Reply #154 on: Tue, 15 August 2017, 08:09:16 »
Did you decide on what method you'd try for the white colouring?

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Re: [IC] ION Keyboards: Xeno - 75% Custom
« Reply #155 on: Tue, 15 August 2017, 09:16:41 »
Very interested in this! 75% is best layout

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Re: [IC] ION Keyboards: Xeno - 75% Custom
« Reply #156 on: Wed, 16 August 2017, 13:42:05 »
want 

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Re: [IC] ION Keyboards: Xeno - 75% Custom
« Reply #157 on: Wed, 16 August 2017, 14:08:24 »
Should remove the spacer.

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Re: [IC] ION Keyboards: Xeno - 75% Custom
« Reply #158 on: Fri, 18 August 2017, 09:13:02 »
Anyway to make it look more symmetrical? The spacing is just random
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Re: [IC] ION Keyboards: Xeno - 75% Custom
« Reply #159 on: Wed, 23 August 2017, 01:27:22 »
This might be one of the best 75%s I've seen. Really eager to see this happen :D Nice work, very nice work.
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Re: [IC] ION Keyboards: Xeno - 75% Custom
« Reply #160 on: Wed, 23 August 2017, 04:04:19 »
Wow. Everything about this is right.

Two questions. What firmware will it use? How far into the future might a GB be?

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Re: [IC] ION Keyboards: Xeno - 75% Custom
« Reply #161 on: Wed, 23 August 2017, 04:41:03 »
Wow. Everything about this is right.

Two questions. What firmware will it use? How far into the future might a GB be?

I'm looking at having a qmk and a bmc option.

I'm not trying to push it too quickly, there are a lot of buys going on now and just around the corner that I know people are looking forward to but I would hope to have the gb by the end of this year.

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Re: [IC] ION Keyboards: Xeno - 75% Custom
« Reply #162 on: Wed, 23 August 2017, 09:08:40 »
Wow. Everything about this is right.

Two questions. What firmware will it use? How far into the future might a GB be?

I'm looking at having a qmk and a bmc option.

I'm not trying to push it too quickly, there are a lot of buys going on now and just around the corner that I know people are looking forward to but I would hope to have the gb by the end of this year.

Sounds solid. :thumb:

Are the three dots intended to be indicator LEDs for the lock keys? Following the past conversation, I get that impression. The three dot logo is on point. The Ion name as well.

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Re: [IC] ION Keyboards: Xeno - 75% Custom
« Reply #163 on: Thu, 24 August 2017, 00:37:38 »
I like this. Much prefer the F row without spaces between them.

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Re: [IC] ION Keyboards: Xeno - 75% Custom
« Reply #164 on: Sun, 27 August 2017, 09:26:09 »
+1 from the split spacebar crowd.  Looking forward to this.

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Re: [IC] ION Keyboards: Xeno - 75% Custom
« Reply #165 on: Thu, 31 August 2017, 07:50:23 »
I didn't follow the IC for a while now, is the illuminati weight gone officially?

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« Reply #166 on: Tue, 05 September 2017, 18:22:26 »
I like this. Much prefer the F row without spaces between them.

Layout in the initial post is what it will be.

I didn't follow the IC for a while now, is the illuminati weight gone officially?

Most likely.  CAD is about 90% done at this point, the weight is really the only thing I haven't decided on.

Waiting on a proto for another project and dealing with final details for that and then I'll be back to work on this board.

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Re: [IC] ION Keyboards: Xeno - 75% Custom
« Reply #167 on: Wed, 06 September 2017, 07:43:37 »
I like this. Much prefer the F row without spaces between them.

Layout in the initial post is what it will be.

I didn't follow the IC for a while now, is the illuminati weight gone officially?

Most likely.  CAD is about 90% done at this point, the weight is really the only thing I haven't decided on.

Waiting on a proto for another project and dealing with final details for that and then I'll be back to work on this board.

Before finalizing the final design idea, it may be good to produce a few prototypes to examine how the structure holds up - the design of BananaSplit 60% plate, because of the lack of structural link at the bottom right corner, has a lot more warping and some of their end-product productions are problematic.
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Re: [IC] ION Keyboards: Xeno - 75% Custom
« Reply #168 on: Wed, 06 September 2017, 08:02:20 »
I'm extremely interested in this! Love the layout and the fixed function row. Count me in!

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Re: [IC] ION Keyboards: Xeno - 75% Custom
« Reply #169 on: Wed, 13 September 2017, 10:03:30 »
Good design. I love these layouts

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« Reply #170 on: Wed, 13 September 2017, 10:40:13 »
Just to point out the focus fk-1001 has staggered f-row and it looks good

http://telcontar.net/KBK/KBref/Focus_FK-1001/top.jpg

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Re: [IC] ION Keyboards: Xeno - 75% Custom
« Reply #171 on: Thu, 12 October 2017, 06:47:38 »
Waiting on a proto for another project and dealing with final details for that and then I'll be back to work on this board.

Do you have any estimate on when the GB might happen - or is it too soon to give any details on?

Sorry for asking - I just really like the design on this board.



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Re: [IC] ION Keyboards: Xeno - 75% Custom
« Reply #172 on: Wed, 18 October 2017, 13:19:36 »
Any update on this project? I'm really looking forward to owning my first 75% custom  ;D
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Re: [IC] ION Keyboards: Xeno - 75% Custom
« Reply #173 on: Wed, 18 October 2017, 16:11:23 »
Any update on this project? I'm really looking forward to owning my first 75% custom  ;D

Yes.  I apologise for the lack of updates.  I was working on another project along side this, but due to my severe lack of time and after some discussion that is getting put on the back burner for now and my focus is now solely on finishing this board.  Currently discussing some necessary details to get this finished up, so no timeline info at the moment but it is progressing forward.

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« Reply #174 on: Wed, 18 October 2017, 16:13:07 »
Oh yeah, I'll leave this here too:


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« Reply #175 on: Wed, 18 October 2017, 16:19:33 »
Oh yeah, I'll leave this here too:

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« Reply #176 on: Wed, 18 October 2017, 16:20:39 »
Any chance a matching numpad can be made as well?
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« Reply #177 on: Wed, 18 October 2017, 20:18:00 »
Oh yeah, I'll leave this here too:

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Re: [IC] ION Keyboards: Xeno - 75% Custom
« Reply #178 on: Wed, 18 October 2017, 21:07:11 »
Okay someone explain the half plate to me.  It seems the hip thing to do but I’m curious about it.  I get the top mount vs tray mount.  I get the pcb vs plate mounted switches.  But this half plate just seems like going plateless... but then putting a plate where the stabilizers go so that if you have issues you’ll need to desolder 1/2 the board.

Is it just about the feel/flex of the board?

Anywho, the board looks amazing. Sorry to hear about that other project, especially if it’s the one I think it is.  But I’m ready to throw my money at this unique layout.

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« Reply #179 on: Wed, 18 October 2017, 21:48:47 »

Anywho, the board looks amazing. Sorry to hear about that other project, especially if it’s the one I think it is.  But I’m ready to throw my money at this unique layout.

It is not, that one is still very much alive and about ready.  The one on hold was an unannounced project that I may have teased a time or 2 but that's about it.  It will continue sometime in the future.

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Re: [IC] ION Keyboards: Xeno - 75% Custom
« Reply #180 on: Thu, 19 October 2017, 01:36:06 »
Excited to see this moving forward. This is a must buy for me with the layout and blockers.

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« Reply #181 on: Thu, 19 October 2017, 02:35:17 »
Seriously can't wait for this to start

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« Reply #182 on: Thu, 19 October 2017, 05:14:55 »
Can you make it a sandwiched case (aka Top-mount), so that the plate are mounted directly onto the bottom (and top) portion of the case?
This will be the best linear-switch setup.
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« Reply #183 on: Fri, 20 October 2017, 05:05:57 »
I'm guessing there will be a full plate option?

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« Reply #184 on: Fri, 20 October 2017, 20:46:25 »
This is gorgeous, consider me interested!

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« Reply #185 on: Mon, 23 October 2017, 12:38:41 »
Spacers on the F-rows then this is Majestic. Reserve me 3 boards!!!
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« Reply #186 on: Mon, 23 October 2017, 13:06:28 »
Spacers on the F-rows then this is Majestic. Reserve me 3 boards!!!

+1 about the spacers on the F-rows

I have to get one of these too.
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« Reply #187 on: Mon, 23 October 2017, 16:34:29 »
Spacers on the F-rows then this is Majestic. Reserve me 3 boards!!!

Then maybe there will be NO space for logo/indicator LEDs? I mean I love the logo/indicator more than f-spacer :D :). Need this GB to happen now BTW!!!

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« Reply #188 on: Mon, 23 October 2017, 16:42:38 »
Wow this is pretty damn sweet! So many nice customs coming out right now...

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Re: [IC] ION Keyboards: Xeno - 75% Custom
« Reply #189 on: Mon, 23 October 2017, 18:16:10 »
Any chance a matching numpad can be made as well?


I will see about the possibility of dropping a numpad as well but I'm not making any guarantees right now.


I'm guessing there will be a full plate option?

Of course.


Spacers on the F-rows then this is Majestic. Reserve me 3 boards!!!

Then maybe there will be NO space for logo/indicator LEDs? I mean I love the logo/indicator more than f-spacer :D :). Need this GB to happen now BTW!!!

A page or 2 back I did do a render of this.  There is space but it looks a bit crowded.  I'm sticking with no spacers for now.

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« Reply #190 on: Mon, 23 October 2017, 18:28:42 »
Any chance a matching numpad can be made as well?

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I will see about the possibility of dropping a numpad as well but I'm not making any guarantees right now.


I'm guessing there will be a full plate option?

Of course.


Spacers on the F-rows then this is Majestic. Reserve me 3 boards!!!

Then maybe there will be NO space for logo/indicator LEDs? I mean I love the logo/indicator more than f-spacer :D :). Need this GB to happen now BTW!!!

A page or 2 back I did do a render of this.  There is space but it looks a bit crowded.  I'm sticking with no spacers for now.

Does the 3 dots on right logo or indicator/status LEDs? Should be awesome if that's the indicator/status LEDs

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Re: [IC] ION Keyboards: Xeno - 75% Custom
« Reply #191 on: Mon, 23 October 2017, 18:46:39 »
I usually don't like the single spacer on the bottom row, but the frow brings it so much symmetry... I might NEED this!  :cool:

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« Reply #192 on: Mon, 23 October 2017, 19:17:55 »
Any chance a matching numpad can be made as well?

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I will see about the possibility of dropping a numpad as well but I'm not making any guarantees right now.

Oh man that numpad design would be sweet! hope it goes through!

I am aiming for a build like this but in white:


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Re: [IC] ION Keyboards: Xeno - 75% Custom
« Reply #193 on: Mon, 23 October 2017, 19:45:17 »
Any chance a matching numpad can be made as well?

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I will see about the possibility of dropping a numpad as well but I'm not making any guarantees right now.

Oh man that numpad design would be sweet! hope it goes through!

I am aiming for a build like this but in white:
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Re: [IC] ION Keyboards: Xeno - 75% Custom
« Reply #194 on: Mon, 23 October 2017, 22:51:21 »
Any chance a matching numpad can be made as well?

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I will see about the possibility of dropping a numpad as well but I'm not making any guarantees right now.
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« Reply #195 on: Tue, 24 October 2017, 00:37:08 »
Is this going to be Hot-swapabble? ;D
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« Reply #196 on: Tue, 24 October 2017, 02:15:49 »
Yup would be happy with just the 75%, but if a numpad is coming too that’s even better :D


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Re: [IC] ION Keyboards: Xeno - 75% Custom
« Reply #197 on: Tue, 24 October 2017, 02:47:40 »
I was part of the ‘no f-row spacers’ team, but to be honest, they have grown on me.
Imo the f-spacers create a more balance look.

Also let’s face it, no spaces needs uniform colored f-row too look best and we aren’t getting many of those.
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« Reply #198 on: Tue, 24 October 2017, 03:39:39 »
Umm, wow, this thing is beautiful! I'm typically not fond of spacers on the bottom row, but this really makes it work somehow. Can't wait for this!

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Re: [IC] ION Keyboards: Xeno - 75% Custom
« Reply #199 on: Tue, 24 October 2017, 14:14:27 »
Spacers or no spacers on the F-row - still looks amazing.  :thumb:
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