[IC] CU-Europe || UPDATE #15 - PRICE UPDATED (02/11/2017)

[pomk]

This is the new base kit:

(Attachment Link)

What does everyone think?

Are there any other keys that should be added?

Would you be so kind to add the rest of the keys for a proper SWE/FI layout? In the 9009 international kit IC the consensus was that almost 80% of people prefer to pay a little more to get full coverage. If you do plan on not adding those, please at least be evenhanded in removing 30% of UK specific and ANSI specific keys as well.

ps. I don't really get it why you keep the ansi keys in this at all. You can already buy ansi sets by ePBT in multiple colourways.

[Petch]

ps. I don't really get it why you keep the ansi keys in this at all. You can already buy ansi sets by ePBT in multiple colourways.

I'm not even interested in the UK/ISO aspect, I'm in this simply because it includes R3 Control, 1.75u shift, R2 backspace, 75% & 1800 layout keys. If ANSI keys were removed, I'd have to buy this AND the normal ANSI sets, which I'm not going to do

I'm sure there are others in the same boat who want the extra layout options for their ANSI or modified ANSI boards

[pomk]

ps. I don't really get it why you keep the ansi keys in this at all. You can already buy ansi sets by ePBT in multiple colourways.

I'm not even interested in the UK/ISO aspect, I'm in this simply because it includes R3 Control, 1.75u shift, R2 backspace, 75% & 1800 layout keys. If ANSI keys were removed, I'd have to buy this AND the normal ANSI sets, which I'm not going to do

I'm sure there are others in the same boat who want the extra layout options for their ANSI or modified ANSI boards

Just buy something like this already:
https://kbdfans.myshopify.com/collections/keycaps/products/pre-order-enjoypbt-arabic-duy-sub-keycaps

Comes with everything you just listed and more.

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Thanks for the update including the Norde kit!! 

 Looking forward to the GB

Thank you for the support!

This is the new base kit:

(Attachment Link)

What does everyone think?

Are there any other keys that should be added?

Would you be so kind to add the rest of the keys for a proper SWE/FI layout? In the 9009 international kit IC the consensus was that almost 80% of people prefer to pay a little more to get full coverage. If you do plan on not adding those, please at least be evenhanded in removing 30% of UK specific and ANSI specific keys as well.

ps. I don't really get it why you keep the ansi keys in this at all. You can already buy ansi sets by ePBT in multiple colourways.

I will gladly add the rest of the SWE/FI layout! Which additional keys are required?

The ANSI Keys will remain as it means ISO users have the option of ANSI keys for future keyboards. There may also be ANSI users, who might want to use ISO in the future. 

Let me know which additional keys are required, and I will add them.

[Petch]

ps. I don't really get it why you keep the ansi keys in this at all. You can already buy ansi sets by ePBT in multiple colourways.

I'm not even interested in the UK/ISO aspect, I'm in this simply because it includes R3 Control, 1.75u shift, R2 backspace, 75% & 1800 layout keys. If ANSI keys were removed, I'd have to buy this AND the normal ANSI sets, which I'm not going to do

I'm sure there are others in the same boat who want the extra layout options for their ANSI or modified ANSI boards

Just buy something like this already:
https://kbdfans.myshopify.com/collections/keycaps/products/pre-order-enjoypbt-arabic-duy-sub-keycaps

Comes with everything you just listed and more.

If it were Jp instead of Arabic, I would 

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This is the latest base kit:



The colours are not decided, but they will likely have the standard enjoyPBT colour scheme that can be seen here: https://kbdfans.myshopify.com/collections/keycaps/products/gbenjoypbt-forgive-132key-keycaps

If any other keys need to be added, please let me know.

[DuFF]

If any other keys need to be added, please let me know.

any possibility for full split spacebar support? 2.25/2.75

[dr-slump]

This is the latest base kit:

(Attachment Link)

The colours are not decided, but they will likely have the standard enjoyPBT colour scheme that can be seen here: https://kbdfans.myshopify.com/collections/keycaps/products/gbenjoypbt-forgive-132key-keycaps

If any other keys need to be added, please let me know.

classic beige/grey colorschemes are always the best imo. 

[sysfury]

The colours are not decided, but they will likely have the standard enjoyPBT colour scheme that can be seen here: https://kbdfans.myshopify.com/collections/keycaps/products/gbenjoypbt-forgive-132key-keycaps

Nice with the classic colors! The text will be black though, right? Not teal.

[pomk]

Let me know which additional keys are required, and I will add them.

The kit in T0mb3ry's eclipse seems to contain what is needed for good support of at least SWE/FI/DE/NO.


A complete support for the 2008 FI keyboard layout would look like this:
(I have not seen anyone print this on any keyboard yet, and while a nice curiosity I would not push for anyone to add this to any GB)

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[sysfury]

I will gladly add the rest of the SWE/FI layout! Which additional keys are required?

These keys in particular would complete the Finnish-Swedish keyboard:

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Let me know which additional keys are required, and I will add them.

The kit in T0mb3ry's eclipse seems to contain what is needed for good support of at least SWE/FI/DE/NO.

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A complete support for the 2008 FI keyboard layout would look like this:
(I have not seen anyone print this on any keyboard yet, and while a nice curiosity I would not push for anyone to add this to any GB)

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I will gladly add the rest of the SWE/FI layout! Which additional keys are required?

These keys in particular would complete the Finnish-Swedish keyboard:

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Thank you! I will add the necessary keycaps and post an update either tonight, or tomorrow!

Have I got all of the keycaps for the ISO-FR layout? Which ones am I missing?

[pomk]

Thank you! I will add the necessary keycaps and post an update either tonight, or tomorrow!

Have I got all of the keycaps for the ISO-FR layout? Which ones am I missing?

I think these would still be missing:

[wholypantalones]

So this is just an EnjoyPBT set with more compatibility? I probably should have paid more attention to this..

I'm in if there's some classic beige action.

[Petch]

So this is just an EnjoyPBT set with more compatibility? I probably should have paid more attention to this..

I'm in if there's some classic beige action.

Pretty much, I think this group buy would benefit from a name change since it's more of an expanded compatibility enjoyPbt set rather than specifically ISO set. Lot of potential interest globally

[pomk]

So this is just an EnjoyPBT set with more compatibility? I probably should have paid more attention to this..

I'm in if there's some classic beige action.

Pretty much, I think this group buy would benefit from a name change since it's more of an expanded compatibility enjoyPbt set rather than specifically ISO set. Lot of potential interest globally

If you change the name people will be pouring in here to complain about the number of international keys  )
"such expensive" "very many keys" "why not separate kit", while this _is_ the separate kit.

[wholypantalones]

So this is just an EnjoyPBT set with more compatibility? I probably should have paid more attention to this..

I'm in if there's some classic beige action.

Pretty much, I think this group buy would benefit from a name change since it's more of an expanded compatibility enjoyPbt set rather than specifically ISO set. Lot of potential interest globally

Yeah, that's why I passed the thread over. I'm not an iso user.

This could definitely benefit from a name change to get more attention.

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So this is just an EnjoyPBT set with more compatibility? I probably should have paid more attention to this..

I'm in if there's some classic beige action.

Pretty much, I think this group buy would benefit from a name change since it's more of an expanded compatibility enjoyPbt set rather than specifically ISO set. Lot of potential interest globally

Yeah, that's why I passed the thread over. I'm not an iso user.

This could definitely benefit from a name change to get more attention.

I will definitely consider a name change! What do you have in mind?


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[sysfury]

I will definitely consider a name change! What do you have in mind?

This is one suggestion:

EnjoyPBT Extended Compatibility Keycap Set

[pomk]

I will definitely consider a name change! What do you have in mind?

This is one suggestion:

EnjoyPBT Extended Compatibility Keycap Set

Just keep the list of supported locales in the topic as well and this would be fine I guess. (US/UK/DE/NO/SWE/FI/ some others)

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I will definitely consider a name change! What do you have in mind?

This is one suggestion:

EnjoyPBT Extended Compatibility Keycap Set

This is clear and to the point, I like it. Thanks.


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[sysfury]

This is one suggestion:

EnjoyPBT Extended Compatibility Keycap Set

This is clear and to the point, I like it. Thanks.

Or EnjoyPBT Extended Compatibility Keycap Set - DE/DK/FI/NO/SE/UK/US, if you want to be specific, as per pomk's suggestion.

[kwyryn]

If this group buy has an european distributor I'm in!

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If this group buy has an european distributor I'm in!

I will be organising the group buy, and I operate from within the UK.

Thank you for the support!

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This is the new base kit:



What does the community think?

[kwyryn]

This is the new base kit:

(Attachment Link)

What does the community think?

I would like to know what the blank modifiers are doing in there?
Also watch out that the set doesn't get too expensive, because the more expensive it gets the less people will buy it

[AlexAtPanc]

1.25u R3 blank/tab legend PLZ!!! <3 <3 <3 <3 <3

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This is the new base kit:

(Attachment Link)

What does the community think?

I would like to know what the blank modifiers are doing in there?
Also watch out that the set doesn't get too expensive, because the more expensive it gets the less people will buy it

I thought I had removed those in the latest update, thank you for reminding me. I thought they were necessary for a particular layout, but I think I was wrong.

I think that this will be the final base kit, I don't think there are any more ISO keys to add.

1.25u R3 blank/tab legend PLZ!!! <3 <3 <3 <3 <3

That, and R3 Stepped Control are the last keys I think I will add.

The only thing to change with this set is to add icons to the modifiers.

The legend colour will be black.

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1.25u R3 blank/tab legend PLZ!!! <3 <3 <3 <3 <3

I have added that key and also the R3 Stepped Control.

[AlexAtPanc]

1.25u R3 blank/tab legend PLZ!!! <3 <3 <3 <3 <3

I have added that key and also the R3 Stepped Control.

HUZZAH!!!

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This is the latest base kit:



I think this will be the final base kit.

[pomk]

This is the latest base kit:

(Attachment Link)

I think this will be the final base kit.

The " +?\ " key is still missing from FI/SWE, and someone from NO&DK should check if everything is in order.

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This is the latest base kit:

(Attachment Link)

I think this will be the final base kit.

The " +?\ " key is still missing from FI/SWE, and someone from NO&DK should check if everything is in order.

Sorry! I will add that key!

[wholypantalones]

This is the latest base kit:

(Attachment Link)

I think this will be the final base kit.

A 1u windows key instead of "fn" for tsangan, 1u alt & ctrl, 1800 and 65% support. Damn.

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1.25u R3 blank/tab legend PLZ!!! <3 <3 <3 <3 <3

I have added that key and also the R3 Stepped Control.

HUZZAH!!!

May I ask what is the 1.25u R3 Tab for? I am thinking about leaving it blank.

[AlexAtPanc]

1.25u R3 blank/tab legend PLZ!!! <3 <3 <3 <3 <3

I have added that key and also the R3 Stepped Control.

HUZZAH!!!

May I ask what is the 1.25u R3 Tab for? I am thinking about leaving it blank.

Just for 40% boards but I would never kick a blank out of bed for eating crackers. Thanks!

[sysfury]

This is the latest base kit:

(Attachment Link)

I think this will be the final base kit.

I can try and double check the included keys, if you want. What compatibility are you aiming for? Like everything, including ES/IT/PT/FR? Or just Ansi+NorDeUK?

[kwyryn]

This is the latest base kit:

(Attachment Link)

I think this will be the final base kit.

I think the delete/backspace key for the hhkb should be in the darker color

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This is the new base kit:

This is the latest base kit:

(Attachment Link)

I think this will be the final base kit.

I can try and double check the included keys, if you want. What compatibility are you aiming for? Like everything, including ES/IT/PT/FR? Or just Ansi+NorDeUK?

I have uploaded a new base kit. Please check the new base kit.

I am mainly aiming for ANSI+ NorDeUK support.

[Norde]

Swedish/Finnish layout is missing one R1 key:


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Same key with "|" is Danish.

[Petch]

This is the new base kit:

(Attachment Link)

This is the latest base kit:

(Attachment Link)

I think this will be the final base kit.

I can try and double check the included keys, if you want. What compatibility are you aiming for? Like everything, including ES/IT/PT/FR? Or just Ansi+NorDeUK?

I have uploaded a new base kit. Please check the new base kit.

I am mainly aiming for ANSI+ NorDeUK support.

How much are those european keys adding to the final cost? Seems to be growing quickly, might be worth selling as a separate kit

[wholypantalones]

This is the new base kit:

(Attachment Link)

This is the latest base kit:

(Attachment Link)

I think this will be the final base kit.

I can try and double check the included keys, if you want. What compatibility are you aiming for? Like everything, including ES/IT/PT/FR? Or just Ansi+NorDeUK?

I have uploaded a new base kit. Please check the new base kit.

I am mainly aiming for ANSI+ NorDeUK support.

How much are those european keys adding to the final cost? Seems to be growing quickly, might be worth selling as a separate kit

You mean you're not willing to pay $200 for some extra keys you won't use? Nonsense.

[pomk]

This is the new base kit:

(Attachment Link)

This is the latest base kit:

(Attachment Link)

I think this will be the final base kit.

I can try and double check the included keys, if you want. What compatibility are you aiming for? Like everything, including ES/IT/PT/FR? Or just Ansi+NorDeUK?

I have uploaded a new base kit. Please check the new base kit.

I am mainly aiming for ANSI+ NorDeUK support.

How much are those european keys adding to the final cost? Seems to be growing quickly, might be worth selling as a separate kit

I think that splitting the set is going to make it even more expensive. There are ansi only ePBT sets out there already.

[sysfury]

I have uploaded a new base kit. Please check the new base kit.

I am mainly aiming for ANSI+ NorDeUK support.

I have checked UK, DE, FI/SE, DK, NO and FR.

UK - OK

DE - Missing the key. Also the alignment of the AltGr legends are wrong on and .

FI/SE - OK

DK - Double check the alignment on the key. It's hard to see if its correct.

NO - Same as above for the key

FR - The key looks like it has quotes instead of umlaut. The key is redundant, as it is included for NO. What is the key for?

How much interest has there been for FR? It's 25 keys after all.

[Petch]

You mean you're not willing to pay $200 for some extra keys you won't use? Nonsense.

I wouldn't mind a smaller amount and paying a little more to help out the European communities that usually get shafted by lack of availability, but there's just so many now...

[pomk]

You mean you're not willing to pay $200 for some extra keys you won't use? Nonsense.

I wouldn't mind a smaller amount and paying a little more to help out the European communities that usually get shafted by lack of availability, but there's just so many now...

I guess you would have to see the price, before you can decide whether the set is too expensive for you. There are many cheap ePBT sets out there and considering that ISO support was the whole point of this GB, as stated in the OP, I find it a little annoying that people are starting to demand stripping this down to a yet another #MAGA set of which there is an abundance already.

Maybe a separate IC with different priorities should be started, focusing on the needs of generic ansi users. Originative's modern beige and Shadovved's ePBT GBs have been great successes, and following in their footsteps it should be trivial to set up something for the ansi community, without the need to water down this one.  You could even have the distributor in the US of A and save in shipping costs, which are bound to be the next thing US based ansi users are going to complain about. (see the eclipse GB and people complaining about an European distributor is "not fulfilling" the needs of Americans)

My sincere hope is that this GB will continue to focus on the markets that are not yet covered by ePBT (or any cherry profile dyesub) sets.

ps. I don't really get it why you keep the ansi keys in this at all. You can already buy ansi sets by ePBT in multiple colourways.

I'm not even interested in the UK/ISO aspect, I'm in this simply because it includes R3 Control, 1.75u shift, R2 backspace, 75% & 1800 layout keys. If ANSI keys were removed, I'd have to buy this AND the normal ANSI sets, which I'm not going to do

I'm sure there are others in the same boat who want the extra layout options for their ANSI or modified ANSI boards

Just buy something like this already:
https://kbdfans.myshopify.com/collections/keycaps/products/pre-order-enjoypbt-arabic-duy-sub-keycaps

Comes with everything you just listed and more.

If it were Jp instead of Arabic, I would 

Your ideal set has already been made (surprise! ansi power! ): https://originative.co/products/modern-beige?variant=18906335301

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I have uploaded a new base kit. Please check the new base kit.

I am mainly aiming for ANSI+ NorDeUK support.

I have checked UK, DE, FI/SE, DK, NO and FR.

UK - OK

DE - Missing the (Attachment Link) key. Also the alignment of the AltGr legends are wrong on (Attachment Link) and (Attachment Link) .

FI/SE - OK

DK - Double check the alignment on the (Attachment Link) key. It's hard to see if its correct.

NO - Same as above for the (Attachment Link) key

FR - The (Attachment Link) key looks like it has quotes instead of umlaut. The (Attachment Link) key is redundant, as it is included for NO. What is the (Attachment Link) key for?

How much interest has there been for FR? It's 25 keys after all.

Thank you for looking over the entire set! I will correct an issues / add any missing keys immediately!

If the price of this kit is too expensive, I will consider removing the ISO-FR Keys. Ideally I would like to keep them, however I can understand that people don't want to pay a large amount for this set, especially when they will only use a few keys.

This is the new base kit:

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This is the latest base kit:

(Attachment Link)

I think this will be the final base kit.

I can try and double check the included keys, if you want. What compatibility are you aiming for? Like everything, including ES/IT/PT/FR? Or just Ansi+NorDeUK?

I have uploaded a new base kit. Please check the new base kit.

I am mainly aiming for ANSI+ NorDeUK support.

How much are those european keys adding to the final cost? Seems to be growing quickly, might be worth selling as a separate kit

I think that splitting the set is going to make it even more expensive. There are ansi only ePBT sets out there already.

There won't be any separate kits.

You mean you're not willing to pay $200 for some extra keys you won't use? Nonsense.

I wouldn't mind a smaller amount and paying a little more to help out the European communities that usually get shafted by lack of availability, but there's just so many now...

I guess you would have to see the price, before you can decide whether the set is too expensive for you. There are many cheap ePBT sets out there and considering that ISO support was the whole point of this GB, as stated in the OP, I find it a little annoying that people are starting to demand stripping this down to a yet another #MAGA set of which there is an abundance already.

Maybe a separate IC with different priorities should be started, focusing on the needs of generic ansi users. Originative's modern beige and Shadovved's ePBT GBs have been great successes, and following in their footsteps it should be trivial to set up something for the ansi community, without the need to water down this one.  You could even have the distributor in the US of A and save in shipping costs, which are bound to be the next thing US based ansi users are going to complain about. (see the eclipse GB and people complaining about an European distributor is "not fulfilling" the needs of Americans)

My sincere hope is that this GB will continue to focus on the markets that are not yet covered by ePBT (or any cherry profile dyesub) sets.

ps. I don't really get it why you keep the ansi keys in this at all. You can already buy ansi sets by ePBT in multiple colourways.

I'm not even interested in the UK/ISO aspect, I'm in this simply because it includes R3 Control, 1.75u shift, R2 backspace, 75% & 1800 layout keys. If ANSI keys were removed, I'd have to buy this AND the normal ANSI sets, which I'm not going to do

I'm sure there are others in the same boat who want the extra layout options for their ANSI or modified ANSI boards

Just buy something like this already:
https://kbdfans.myshopify.com/collections/keycaps/products/pre-order-enjoypbt-arabic-duy-sub-keycaps

Comes with everything you just listed and more.

If it were Jp instead of Arabic, I would 

Your ideal set has already been made (surprise! ansi power! ): https://originative.co/products/modern-beige?variant=18906335301

If the set is too expensive, I will consider removing the ISO-FR keys as there does not seem to be much interest in these.

[pomk]

 

[Petch]

Your ideal set has already been made (surprise! ansi power! ): https://originative.co/products/modern-beige?variant=18906335301

Nope, originative ****ed that up. For example, there's an R3 + for 1800 support, but no R2 -. I could list everything else wrong with the set, but there's just too much missing for $99 + shipping.

The windowed lock keys are nice however, and I'd really like to see that done with this set...

[Norde]

Alt Gr ?