What's your Enter Key Preference? Big or Ansi or Iso?

[SamirD]

So will all the different key layouts there have been in the past, it really came down to 3 choices for your enter key.  Which is your favorite and why?

I'm used to the Ansi style since I started typing with a Model M, but really do like the Keytronic larger enter, except when I miss the larger backspace.

[chyros]

Bifg > ISO > ANSI

Literally xD .

[zslane]

ANSI. The others are needless space wasters. My pinky stays on row3 when I hit Return; I don't need the key to extend to row2. That's just retarded.

[FoxWolf1]

Focus layout: Big enter, 2U backspace, and smaller right shift to make room for \ next to it.

[davkol]

1-1.5u key in a thumb cluster ~_^

[rich1051414]

Ansi. I don't understand making the enter key larger, it serves no purpose to me but wasting space and shrinking other keys.

[Duckyreddy]

Ansi!!

[chyros]

Focus layout: Big enter, 2U backspace, and smaller right shift to make room for \ next to it.

Amen, brother.

[klennkellon]

i dont care about the enter key i just like a full left shift :c

[Jae-3soteric]

Personally, ISO layout due to the iso enter key, the position of the hash and the short left shift to enable pipe next to Z


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[_PixelNinja]

I prefer ANSI — ISO makes no sense to me.

Also, ANSI in my opinion has a more elegant look with it's sort-of-kind-of symmetrical alpha cluster. This is further accentuated when using bi-color keysets.

[xondat]

ANSI because R2 1.5 backspace.

Originally switched to ANSI for keycaps, but that backspace is just so much more comfortable that it isn't worth switching back to ISO since options are better now.

[MGMorden]

I strongly prefer ANSI.  My first computer at home was a Commodore 128 which had it's own weird proprietary layout, and then after that I moved to a Packard Bell which had the Big-Enter.  It wasn't until my 3rd computer that I got an ANSI keyboard but to me it makes much more sense.  Particularly if you do a lot of Windows command line stuff and do a lot of backslashes, ANSI just puts that key in such a more convenient location, and I've never had any issues where the Enter key would need to be any bigger than it is in ANSI.

[_haru]

ISO/JIS enter. I don't accidentally type \ when I want Enter that way.

[Tom_Kazansky]

ANSI, I have been using it since forever and I'm using 1.5 Backspace so there is no switching to ISO Enter.

Big-Enter is a waste of space.

[daerid]

ANSI, I have been using it since forever and I'm using 1.5 Backspace so there is no switching to ISO Enter.

Big-Enter is a waste of space.

[0100010]

ANSI

[_rubik]

Focus layout: Big enter, 2U backspace, and smaller right shift to make room for \ next to it.

Damn... Looks like I have to try a new layout. I'm loving the FK 2001.

[Findecanor]

I prefer no Enter key. I use a tenkeyless.

[chyros]

I prefer ANSI — ISO makes no sense to me.

Also, ANSI in my opinion has a more elegant look with it's sort-of-kind-of symmetrical alpha cluster. This is further accentuated when using bi-color keysets.

I actually DISLIKE the symmetry on ANSI sets. To me keyboards aren't a symmetrical thing, so layouts that are look off and unnatural to me.

[SBJ]

Definitely ANSI.
It's more of a convenience thing though I suppose.
I come from a country where they use ISO, but spending lots of time in consoles and terminals I much prefer ANSI.
Also, it's easier to get keycaps and stuff if you've got an ANSI board.

[TalkingTree]

ANSI because R2 1.5 backspace.

Originally switched to ANSI for keycaps, but that backspace is just so much more comfortable that it isn't worth switching back to ISO since options are better now.

Same for this very reason.

[4sStylZ]

Centered backspace / delete / enter key for me…

[balotz]

ANSI for me, and I'm from the UK!

[kmba]

Hhkb style backspace is so vastly superior to other positions that it outweighs any negatives of going with ANSI. Only way to fly.

[seville57]

ANSI for me, and I'm from the UK!

ANSI and I'm from Sweden. Have some old ISO/Nordic k - boards but its hard to find good lookin ISO/Nordic keycaps sets here in Sweden.

[klennkellon]

I've actually been using this Spanish layout Packard Bell and I am really starting to prefer ISO enter. It's really comfortable to hit.

[SamirD]

I'm used to the Ansi style since I started typing with a Model M, but really do like the Keytronic larger enter, except when I miss the larger backspace.

So the inspiration behind this thread was looking at the enter on a nice Keytronic that I picked up for $3 at a local goodwill, and now that I've been using it, I really, really, really miss that backslash--I had no idea I used it so much, but it makes sense since I'm typing paths very regularly.

[rich1051414]

Rough sketch, but a layout like this should be a hit with chryos.

[chyros]

Rough sketch, but a layout like this should be a hit with chryos.
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Looks amazing, but the 0 u backspace might take some getting used to .

[Soo8]

ANSI. I hit enter on the lower left of the cap and the backspace is always normal sized on ANSI and keycap compatibility is great. The big enter is not that bad as well, but weird stuff goes on with this layout. Also, I personally haven't seen a big enter board with good stabilizers.

Rough sketch, but a layout like this should be a hit with chryos.
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Looks amazing, but the 0 u backspace might take some getting used to .

Left arrow+delete is the future.

[Findecanor]

Correct, position, size and shape of the Carriage Return key 

[digi]

Rough sketch, but a layout like this should be a hit with chryos.
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haha

[SamirD]

Also, I personally haven't seen a big enter board with good stabilizers.

I just checked this keytronic I'm using right now and aside from the upper right corner of the key, it actuates really well from any other area. 

[SamirD]

Correct, position, size and shape of the Carriage Return key 

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And you'd know if you got it since the whole platten would side over to the left at some crazy speed until it just stopped!    You would easily know when you hit it by accident. 

[Findecanor]

Also, I personally haven't seen a big enter board with good stabilizers.

I have mostly seen Alps boards with both a horizontal and a vertical stabiliser under a backwards-L Return key and on those the vertical stabiliser has most often been very short and located above the horizontal.
That configuration has been seen on Cherry MX, but on Cherry it is more common to have either only a vertical (Cherry) or a horizontal stabiliser (Steelseries and others) with a dummy switch or other plunger instead of the other.

There are big backwards-L Return keys with larger vertical and horizontal stabilisers, that sort of overlap. On those, the switch is not in the middle of either sub-rectangle but close to the middle of the bounding rectangle. The vertical stabiliser is around the switch and the horizontal stabiliser bar goes along the bottom.
NMB Space Invaders' key is like this, but there has been at least one example for Alps:
https://deskthority.net/wiki/File:Zenith_Supersport_SX_--_Enter_key_stabiliser.jpg

[rowdy]

ANSI.

ANSI and big (not necessarily big-ass) Enter keys were common a few years ago, and I've used both.  For some reason I could never really type properly on a non-ANSI-entered keyboard.

[EscapeVelocity]

Focus is the best.

But I like ANSI the best of those three. However Big Ass Enter is fun and acceptable. I dont like ISO.

[chyros]

BAE w/ full backspace i.e. Focus. It's just so nice to work with.

[xbloody]

Iso or big Enter:D

like my Redragon moded:
https://photos.google.com/photo/AF1QipPXF7VtqNle9-CqZxfCrOz60o5Po2Oao4F_IeIR

[klennkellon]

any, as long as I get to keep my 2u backspace   

[Aristarco]

ISO Enter 4Ever!!!!! Long life the ISO Enter!! God save the ISO layout!!! May the ISO be with you!!

2nd close: Big-ass Enter. I like big butt-Enters or I cannot type!   )

[ylothar]

There is nothing more satisfying than hitting enter when it's an ISO enter.

[AmigaDisk]

I'm danish so I need the nordic/ISO layout and enter key
Tried having an ANSI layout
The slimmer enter key itself was fine after some quick getting-used-to.
But overall it was too confusing for my brain to switch layout and muscle memory, even when using autohotkey for some keys

[Piperaceae]

ISO. Mostly because of muscle memory from my childhood Amiga, but also it just makes more sense to me. Backslash gets downsized to a regular 1u alpha key like it really is. One of the oversized shifts gets downsized too. And if you use UK ISO, tilde moves to a convenient home row location. And it's big and chonky, perfect for slamming during fits of internet rage.

[grids]

1U.

(Come on, surely it never needs to be larger than that?!)

[Mandan]

IBM PC/XT Enter keys were 1u.  The key was 3u tall, but the raised striking pad was only 1u.  In fact, all of the striking pads on the XT were 1u, even when the bases were larger.

I'm running an IBM AT keyboard now.  It has evolved over the years.  I swapped the Big-Ass-Enter for an ISO Enter, didn't like it, and swapped on an ANSI, which I liked a lot better.  Later I decided I wanted to use the left-hand switch hidden under the ANSI Enter, so I split it into a 1u on the left and a 1.25u Enter on the right.  Which I didn't expect I'd like, but it turned out to work just fine.

Right now I have 91 keys, with all of them split except the bottom-right-corner, which used to be a 2u-high "+" and is now a 2u-high Enter, same as the usual 101+key layout.  I like karate-chopping the right side Enter key.

The only split that was troublesome was splitting the left Shift from a 2.25u to a 1.25u and a 1u.  It took over six months before I got used to that, as I had a habit of striking the left side of the key for some shifts and the right side for other, plus for some reason I often used my thumb instead of my little finger.  Unlearning all that took a while.

I kept the 1u Backspace key; corner keys are prime real estate, and I never had any trouble hitting it.  Though I admit when I'm using a keyboard with a 2u Backspace, I probably use the left side of the key more than the right.

Do *not* visit forum.colemak.com if you value your sanity.  You'll start thinking "gee, it would be so much more convenient if this key were moved over there, and..."  ...and you'll go off down that rabbit hole, possibly never to return.

[Evolurkeeb]

ANSI

[Sup]

ISO for Life it just looks so much better and satisfying to press a big button