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Offline harlekein

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Re: [IC] DSA Scientific (finalizing kits)
« Reply #150 on: Fri, 23 November 2018, 03:44:26 »
I am very excited about this project. Definitely in for an alpha, ortho and Colemak set.

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« Reply #151 on: Fri, 23 November 2018, 04:38:18 »
Does DSA suffer the same super-long production time as SA at the moment? Just trying to curb my excitement if this could be a year away from reality...

Nah DSA is 6-8 weeks (from https://pimpmykeyboard.com/whats-new/). SA is about a year again.

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« Reply #152 on: Fri, 23 November 2018, 07:04:57 »

Yes, atreus !!!
What up holtenc!


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Re: [IC] DSA Scientific (finalizing kits)
« Reply #153 on: Thu, 06 December 2018, 05:31:27 »
Any update?


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« Reply #154 on: Thu, 06 December 2018, 13:50:23 »
Any update?


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Yes, I got the final quote from the SP and am currently in contact with vendors to see where we are.

I've also been trying to build up hype and answer questions on the Massdrop discussion page.

The group buy should go down early next year!

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Re: [IC] DSA Scientific (finalizing kits)
« Reply #155 on: Thu, 06 December 2018, 13:55:03 »
Does DSA suffer the same super-long production time as SA at the moment? Just trying to curb my excitement if this could be a year away from reality...

Nah DSA is 6-8 weeks (from https://pimpmykeyboard.com/whats-new/). SA is about a year again.

6-8weeks is for Dye sub Im assuming. But with some of these being double shot, production time might be extended. Hopefully not though!


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« Reply #156 on: Sun, 16 December 2018, 15:26:26 »
I'm super stoked for this. I'm slowly building up an Iris, and this is exactly the set I'd like to see!

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« Reply #157 on: Sun, 06 January 2019, 16:24:48 »
I admit that I keep coming back to this thread just to see if there are any updates. I absolutely *love* this design and can't wait to get it!

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Re: [IC] DSA Scientific (finalizing kits)
« Reply #158 on: Wed, 09 January 2019, 14:30:27 »
Really excited for this set, looks brilliant!

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« Reply #159 on: Wed, 09 January 2019, 16:59:46 »
Thanks for the comments...

I finally posted the Norde kit. Please feel free to look it over for any mistakes; I admit that these layouts (Danish, Finnish, German, Norwegian and Swedish) were not very familiar to me.

Norde (ISO kit add-on)


As well as homing barred "H U N T" keys for Dvorak / Colemak layouts. (see OP)

These kits will be low MOQ (15 or 25).

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« Reply #160 on: Wed, 09 January 2019, 19:30:49 »
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Thanks for the comments...

I finally posted the Norde kit. Please feel free to look it over for any mistakes; I admit that these layouts (Danish, Finnish, German, Norwegian and Swedish) were not very familiar to me.

Norde (ISO kit add-on)
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As well as homing barred "H U N T" keys for Dvorak / Colemak layouts. (see OP)

These kits will be low MOQ (15 or 25).

So glad you're able to offer a Colevrak kit.  I'm sure it will reach 15 MOQ.

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« Reply #161 on: Wed, 09 January 2019, 21:25:44 »
I'm glad also! Thank you so much! :)

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« Reply #162 on: Wed, 09 January 2019, 23:11:56 »
Seeing an update to this thread made my day, so hyped to see the sets launch!

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« Reply #163 on: Thu, 10 January 2019, 04:28:52 »
Big ups for the NorDE kit!

From a German standpoint most are correct (green).
I find 1 key wrong/missing (red) ( 4 with $ above) and (Edit: is included in standard keyset set) a few minor nitpicks.
Yellow means too big ( ^ and " )
Orange: the "sharp S" ( ) shouldn't be cursive.
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« Reply #164 on: Thu, 10 January 2019, 09:12:23 »
Big ups for the NorDE kit!

From a German standpoint most are correct (green).
I find 1 key wrong/missing (red) ( 4 with $ above) and (Edit: is included in standard keyset set) a few minor nitpicks.
Yellow means too big ( ^ and " )
Orange: the "sharp S" ( ) shouldn't be cursive.
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Okay, I agree with these corrections, but most are due to how Signature Plastics makes their legends.

It's actually quite difficult to find pictures of different international kits in DSA (apart from renders). Here's my reference:

Mito Legacy international kit


The big caret (hat) and quotation marks are the same as their regular legends:



Unfortunately, for , I think that's just their typeface...

It's always possible to request new legends, but they're $25 each in the default typeface and probably more for custom graphics (I don't recall how much exactly).

Therefore... it will not be possible to do custom legends in this kit. That being said, I will ask if they have options for and perhaps other keys.


It does bother me to some extent. I have specified new, equal size legends for the arithmetic operators (+ − ) in the Numpad kit, for example.



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« Reply #165 on: Thu, 10 January 2019, 17:13:19 »
Good news is, I got the quote today for the Norde and Colevrak kits, they will be affordable even at 10 MOQ.

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« Reply #166 on: Fri, 11 January 2019, 01:29:33 »

Okay, I agree with these corrections, but most are due to how Signature Plastics makes their legends.

It's actually quite difficult to find pictures of different international kits in DSA (apart from renders). Here's my reference:

The big caret (hat) and quotation marks are the same as their regular legends:

Unfortunately, for , I think that's just their typeface...

It's always possible to request new legends, but they're $25 each in the default typeface and probably more for custom graphics (I don't recall how much exactly).

Therefore... it will not be possible to do custom legends in this kit. That being said, I will ask if they have options for and perhaps other keys.

It does bother me to some extent. I have specified new, equal size legends for the arithmetic operators (+ − ) in the Numpad kit, for example.

Oh it's their typeface... Well it's not that much of a bother I was just being a bit pedantic about the sizes, just the kind of bothers me a bit. I think I saw a non-cursive in other SP sets but I'm not sure. One thing you can do is try to strike a deal: Have them give you a discount for the custom keys with equally/properly sized symbols and sell it to them as an opportunity to improve on their typeface not entirely on their own cost. After all the reason custom symbols/motives on keys are so expensive is because they are usually only used in this 1 keyset which is not the case here! They can start a new line with properly sized symbols and sell addon kits with properly sized symbols for all their old keysets. Granted it may be a (very) long shot but you and others might profit from it with future keysets (since these properly sized keys wouldn't be custom anymore and thereby cheaper).

In any case still really looking forward to this GB :)


Good news is, I got the quote today for the Norde and Colevrak kits, they will be affordable even at 10 MOQ.

Perfect!
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Offline BrotherBobwhite

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Re: [IC] DSA Scientific
« Reply #167 on: Tue, 22 January 2019, 07:50:26 »
Saw the new render on Massdrop, it looks great! I can't wait for the GB!

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« Reply #168 on: Tue, 22 January 2019, 10:26:02 »
This looks great.  Love the race 3 support!

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« Reply #169 on: Wed, 13 March 2019, 08:29:17 »
Love the theme! I'm in.

Thumbs up for supporting the inclusion of an AltGr key! :thumb:

The only thing I'd like to see added, if possible, is a 1u AltGr key to support EU layouts on orthos/40%/nav-cluster-60% boards.

Looking forward to the GB!

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« Reply #170 on: Wed, 13 March 2019, 11:41:36 »
Love the theme! I'm in.

Thumbs up for supporting the inclusion of an AltGr key! :thumb:

The only thing I'd like to see added, if possible, is a 1u AltGr key to support EU layouts on orthos/40%/nav-cluster-60% boards.

Looking forward to the GB!

Thanks! Unfortunately, the kits are pretty much final right now... in any case, I think that legend would be too wide for 1u.

By the looks of things, the group buy should run in about 2 weeks.

Cheers

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« Reply #171 on: Wed, 13 March 2019, 11:51:51 »
Love the theme! I'm in.

Thumbs up for supporting the inclusion of an AltGr key! :thumb:

The only thing I'd like to see added, if possible, is a 1u AltGr key to support EU layouts on orthos/40%/nav-cluster-60% boards.

Looking forward to the GB!

Thanks! Unfortunately, the kits are pretty much final right now... in any case, I think that legend would be too wide for 1u.

By the looks of things, the group buy should run in about 2 weeks.

Cheers

Oh, 1u AltGr keys exist so legends shouldn't be a problem. I think there's just two rows instead. But yeah, understandable if not possible. Thanks for responding!

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« Reply #172 on: Wed, 13 March 2019, 11:53:45 »
Wanted to say you are welcome OP for me letting the vendor know about this set lol. I loved it enough to reach out and ask him to try and get this set run, and it worked! Can't wait to see this beautiful set in the wild.

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Re: [IC] DSA Scientific
« Reply #173 on: Wed, 13 March 2019, 12:00:27 »
Love the theme! I'm in.

Thumbs up for supporting the inclusion of an AltGr key! :thumb:

The only thing I'd like to see added, if possible, is a 1u AltGr key to support EU layouts on orthos/40%/nav-cluster-60% boards.

Looking forward to the GB!

Thanks! Unfortunately, the kits are pretty much final right now... in any case, I think that legend would be too wide for 1u.

By the looks of things, the group buy should run in about 2 weeks.

Cheers

Nice.

Can't wait!  Been a long while since we have had a classy DoubleShot DSA Set around here.

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« Reply #174 on: Wed, 13 March 2019, 12:50:46 »
Wanted to say you are welcome OP for me letting the vendor know about this set lol. I loved it enough to reach out and ask him to try and get this set run, and it worked! Can't wait to see this beautiful set in the wild.

Thanks... did not know! :thumb:

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Re: [IC] DSA Scientific
« Reply #175 on: Wed, 13 March 2019, 18:03:52 »
Just mentioning this, since it was asked a few times, about ErgoDox:

It's possible to source some blank dark grey (GB) 1.5u and 2u keycaps from pimpmykeyboard (the manufacturer of DSA Scientific). Also GX is very close to GB. Black (NN) could work.

I know the GB 2u's are currently in stock, but not the 1.5u's. I'm sure pmkb could produce some even with a small demand.

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« Reply #176 on: Wed, 13 March 2019, 18:42:57 »
Nice.
Love it.  :thumb:

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« Reply #177 on: Wed, 13 March 2019, 21:40:32 »
Oh excited to hear it's finally happening! Do we have any idea on costs/where it will be run?

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« Reply #178 on: Thu, 14 March 2019, 09:30:24 »
Oh excited to hear it's finally happening! Do we have any idea on costs/where it will be run?

Prices are not determined as we speak...

Vendor is @TheKeyCompany, I will proxy for Canada.

Cheers


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Re: [IC] DSA Scientific
« Reply #179 on: Thu, 14 March 2019, 10:01:45 »
Oh excited to hear it's finally happening! Do we have any idea on costs/where it will be run?

Prices are not determined as we speak...

Vendor is @TheKeyCompany, I will proxy for Canada.

Cheers



That's Awesome!  Always happy to go through Jason for a GB!

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Re: [IC] DSA Scientific (vendor)
« Reply #180 on: Thu, 14 March 2019, 13:22:19 »
Any chance for a EU proxy?

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« Reply #181 on: Thu, 14 March 2019, 14:48:13 »
Wanted to say you are welcome OP for me letting the vendor know about this set lol. I loved it enough to reach out and ask him to try and get this set run, and it worked! Can't wait to see this beautiful set in the wild.

That's a very arrogant thing to say, didn't really need saying IMO.

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« Reply #182 on: Thu, 14 March 2019, 15:40:32 »
That's a very arrogant thing to say, didn't really need saying IMO.

How is that arrogant? I actually did reach out to Jason(being that I work with him...) as I wanted to see this GB run and thought he could help. If you think that is arrogance, you need to buy a dictionary.

If you ever need help with anything I won't even bother if you think by doing so makes me arrogant.

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« Reply #183 on: Thu, 14 March 2019, 17:00:54 »
That's a very arrogant thing to say, didn't really need saying IMO.

How is that arrogant? I actually did reach out to Jason(being that I work with him...) as I wanted to see this GB run and thought he could help. If you think that is arrogance, you need to buy a dictionary.

If you ever need help with anything I won't even bother if you think by doing so makes me arrogant.

I'd rather not get in an argument. I just thought the first sentence of your post was in bad taste.

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« Reply #184 on: Thu, 14 March 2019, 17:23:27 »
I'd rather not get in an argument. I just thought the first sentence of your post was in bad taste.

Did the OP have an issue with my statement(which was said in a joking manner, but you seem to have missed that)? From their reply, there was no issue so there was no need for your reply at all. I just wanted to express that I can't wait to see this GB happen and happy that me asking Jason to contact the OP ended up working out and the GB is happening. If you have problems with that please see your way out.

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Re: [IC] DSA Scientific (vendor)
« Reply #185 on: Thu, 14 March 2019, 19:24:47 »
Wanted to say you are welcome OP for me letting the vendor know about this set lol. I loved it enough to reach out and ask him to try and get this set run, and it worked! Can't wait to see this beautiful set in the wild.

That's a very arrogant thing to say, didn't really need saying IMO.

No worries! BlindAssassin111 didn't mean it like that.

Any chance for a EU proxy?

Yes. We're looking into it. ;)

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« Reply #186 on: Thu, 14 March 2019, 19:32:43 »
No worries! BlindAssassin111 didn't mean it like that.

As long as the person I was addressing my statement to understood I was just joking around, that is all that matters lol.

Now if only the next 2 weeks would go by faster so I can get my hands on the calculator goodness you have brought us!

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« Reply #187 on: Fri, 15 March 2019, 02:08:49 »
Oh excited to hear it's finally happening! Do we have any idea on costs/where it will be run?

Prices are not determined as we speak...

Vendor is @TheKeyCompany, I will proxy for Canada.

Cheers

Yay, a Canadian proxy! Keeping a close watch for news of pricing :D

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« Reply #188 on: Fri, 15 March 2019, 07:25:22 »
Oh excited to hear it's finally happening! Do we have any idea on costs/where it will be run?

Prices are not determined as we speak...

Vendor is @TheKeyCompany, I will proxy for Canada.

Cheers

Yay, a Canadian proxy! Keeping a close watch for news of pricing :D

Question for potential Canadian buyers:

Are you interested in the Interac e-Transfer payment method?

Paypal would be default, but if some people want e-Transfer we could look into it.

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« Reply #189 on: Fri, 15 March 2019, 07:45:22 »
Oh excited to hear it's finally happening! Do we have any idea on costs/where it will be run?

Prices are not determined as we speak...

Vendor is @TheKeyCompany, I will proxy for Canada.

Cheers

Yay, a Canadian proxy! Keeping a close watch for news of pricing :D

Question for potential Canadian buyers:

Are you interested in the Interac e-Transfer payment method?

Paypal would be default, but if some people want e-Transfer we could look into it.

Id only be interested in etransfer if it saved on fees. Will your pricing be on par with TKC when considering the exchange rate?

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« Reply #190 on: Fri, 15 March 2019, 08:13:01 »
Oh excited to hear it's finally happening! Do we have any idea on costs/where it will be run?

Prices are not determined as we speak...

Vendor is @TheKeyCompany, I will proxy for Canada.

Cheers

Yay, a Canadian proxy! Keeping a close watch for news of pricing :D

Question for potential Canadian buyers:

Are you interested in the Interac e-Transfer payment method?

Paypal would be default, but if some people want e-Transfer we could look into it.

Id only be interested in etransfer if it saved on fees. Will your pricing be on par with TKC when considering the exchange rate?

Pricing in general will be on par with TKC and in USD. Because e-Transfer is CAD only, by subtracting the Paypal fees (~2.9%) and adding 2.5% for the currency conversion (back to USD), the difference would be negligible.

It is more of a convenience.

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« Reply #191 on: Fri, 15 March 2019, 08:15:45 »
Oh excited to hear it's finally happening! Do we have any idea on costs/where it will be run?

Prices are not determined as we speak...

Vendor is @TheKeyCompany, I will proxy for Canada.

Cheers

Yay, a Canadian proxy! Keeping a close watch for news of pricing :D

Question for potential Canadian buyers:

Are you interested in the Interac e-Transfer payment method?

Paypal would be default, but if some people want e-Transfer we could look into it.

Id only be interested in etransfer if it saved on fees. Will your pricing be on par with TKC when considering the exchange rate?

Pricing in general will be on par with TKC and in USD. Because e-Transfer is CAD only, by subtracting the Paypal fees (~2.9%) and adding 2.5% for the currency conversion (back to USD), the difference would be negligible.

It is more of a convenience.

Ah yeah fair enough, I didnt consider the conversion fee if youre taking USD but that makes sense. Id say PayPal is tried and true and allows me to use credit card which I prefer so Id probably stick with PayPal personally.

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Re: [IC] DSA Scientific (vendor)
« Reply #192 on: Fri, 15 March 2019, 08:23:36 »
Oh excited to hear it's finally happening! Do we have any idea on costs/where it will be run?

Prices are not determined as we speak...

Vendor is @TheKeyCompany, I will proxy for Canada.

Cheers

Yay, a Canadian proxy! Keeping a close watch for news of pricing :D

Question for potential Canadian buyers:

Are you interested in the Interac e-Transfer payment method?

Paypal would be default, but if some people want e-Transfer we could look into it.

Id only be interested in etransfer if it saved on fees. Will your pricing be on par with TKC when considering the exchange rate?

Pricing in general will be on par with TKC and in USD. Because e-Transfer is CAD only, by subtracting the Paypal fees (~2.9%) and adding 2.5% for the currency conversion (back to USD), the difference would be negligible.

It is more of a convenience.

Ah yeah fair enough, I didnt consider the conversion fee if youre taking USD but that makes sense. Id say PayPal is tried and true and allows me to use credit card which I prefer so Id probably stick with PayPal personally.

Also by taking USD it allows you to choose your own converter or use US currency that you may already have on hand.

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« Reply #193 on: Fri, 15 March 2019, 08:25:42 »
Oh excited to hear it's finally happening! Do we have any idea on costs/where it will be run?

Prices are not determined as we speak...

Vendor is @TheKeyCompany, I will proxy for Canada.

Cheers

Yay, a Canadian proxy! Keeping a close watch for news of pricing :D

Question for potential Canadian buyers:

Are you interested in the Interac e-Transfer payment method?

Paypal would be default, but if some people want e-Transfer we could look into it.

Id only be interested in etransfer if it saved on fees. Will your pricing be on par with TKC when considering the exchange rate?

Pricing in general will be on par with TKC and in USD. Because e-Transfer is CAD only, by subtracting the Paypal fees (~2.9%) and adding 2.5% for the currency conversion (back to USD), the difference would be negligible.

It is more of a convenience.

Ah yeah fair enough, I didnt consider the conversion fee if youre taking USD but that makes sense. Id say PayPal is tried and true and allows me to use credit card which I prefer so Id probably stick with PayPal personally.

Also by taking USD it allows you to choose your own converter or use US currency that you may already have on hand.

Yep, I actually have a card with 0 conversion fees that I generally use. It adds up!

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« Reply #194 on: Fri, 15 March 2019, 17:32:52 »
PayPal vs etransfer is equally convenient for me, if the pricing is otherwise the same!

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« Reply #195 on: Fri, 15 March 2019, 20:46:38 »
This is the geekiest set I've ever seen and you're all a bunch of nerds for supporting it.

I need it!
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« Reply #196 on: Fri, 15 March 2019, 22:46:32 »
This is the geekiest set I've ever seen and you're all a bunch of nerds for supporting it.

I need it!

Hey Im a four-eyes not a geek!

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« Reply #197 on: Sat, 16 March 2019, 03:08:48 »
I'm a four-eyed geek. Do I win?
ps. I have a TI-83 in a drawer I'll be comparing the colours with, when this set arrives  :p

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« Reply #198 on: Sat, 16 March 2019, 03:34:53 »
 yes! it's finally almost here! such an awesome set  :cool:

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« Reply #199 on: Sat, 16 March 2019, 15:16:30 »
This will go perfect with my new work board! (I'm an engineer) would certainly be interested in an EU proxy as well.