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Offline skcheng

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« on: Tue, 06 April 2010, 07:39:38 »
Hmm.....NEW or pulled from a working environment??

Clean????

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« Reply #1 on: Tue, 06 April 2010, 07:42:45 »
Terminal keyboard.

1395665 is for 3477/3488, apparently.

I do find the misrepresentation interesting though lol
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« Reply #2 on: Tue, 06 April 2010, 07:45:03 »
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Terminal keyboard.

1395665 is for 3477/3488, apparently.

I do find the misrepresentation interesting though lol



I especially like the closeup of the Otaku ESC button.   Where do I get one of those??    :thumb:

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« Reply #3 on: Tue, 06 April 2010, 07:58:37 »
On any terminal keyboard :)

A fairly decent number of keys on most layouts have no assigned function and so have blank keycaps.

Oh, whoops, that's just missing the keycap entirely. D'oh.
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« Reply #4 on: Tue, 06 April 2010, 08:02:48 »
Thanks to idiots on Ebay, "new" just doesn't have the same meaning it once did. If I buy something that is listed as new, and it arrives in less than perfect condition, the seller gets dinged. No exceptions.

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« Reply #5 on: Tue, 06 April 2010, 08:05:17 »
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Thanks to idiots on Ebay, "new" just doesn't have the same meaning it once did. If I buy something that is listed as new, and it arrives in less than perfect condition, the seller gets dinged. No exceptions.


I'd let them know I was dissatisfied. With cheaper items they'll sometimes just do a refund and let you keep it in the name of customer service/not hurting their rep.

If they then failed to comply with the implied request for financial reimbursement, then they get dinged.
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« Reply #6 on: Tue, 06 April 2010, 08:45:36 »
I've never dinged anyone on ebay for fear of reper-dinging??   I know they changed the rules though.

Everyone has a different opinion of new, or like new, or kinda sorta but not really new??    Photos help, but don't always paint the true picture.  

I'm OCD and every keyboard I get (that I want to keep)  has been disinfected, sanitized and completely clean out.    But that's me.....

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« Reply #7 on: Tue, 06 April 2010, 09:16:01 »
I think I'll lowball one. The terminal keycaps are cool and it should be easy enough to swap in a PCB from a standard Model M.
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« Reply #8 on: Tue, 06 April 2010, 09:23:28 »
I give sellers a lot of leeway when they describe something as used. I can tolerate a bunch of dirt/grit/whatnot, a few blemishes here and there... the usual. New? That's a  different matter altogether. For hardware, if you've done anything other than open the box and play with it for a few minutes, it's not new. In the case of media, if the wrapper is off it is most definitely not new.

I have to laugh at a lot of these keyboard listings that tack "NIB" on the end, when the keyboard is obviously used, and doesn't even come with the original box.

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« Reply #9 on: Tue, 06 April 2010, 09:41:43 »
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I think I'll lowball one. The terminal keycaps are cool and it should be easy enough to swap in a PCB from a standard Model M.


I wonder if you could simply order terminal keycaps from Unicomp??   I would try anyway.   Call and ask for Chuck Cropper.   Super nice guy to deal with and very knowledgeable.

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« Reply #10 on: Tue, 06 April 2010, 09:42:56 »
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Ewwww......... "New" pubes on a keyboard.



I would like to think that those are curvy chin whiskers??   But maybe someone was scratching/itching while typing.....

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« Reply #11 on: Tue, 06 April 2010, 09:56:36 »
I don't think they're intentionally marking it as new...chances are it was a mistake. Nobody in their right mind would look at that and think "new", and I doubt the seller would think they could fool people considering the photos they provided. It's probably a carry over from stealing someone else's listing format or something.

Doesn't make it any more right though. PayPal for example would settle a claim in favour of the buyer if it was filed over being not as described.
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« Reply #12 on: Tue, 06 April 2010, 14:31:36 »
At least the pictures are big and clear.

What I hate is a tiny, out-of-focus thumbnail sized picture along with a description like "clean!" "fresh" or "good condition"... It arrives looking like someone with a rare lung disorder has been hacking up phlegm and eating bacon bits over it for a decade.
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« Reply #13 on: Tue, 06 April 2010, 14:35:54 »
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It arrives looking like someone with a rare lung disorder has been hacking up phlegm and eating bacon bits over it for a decade.

Jesus, I feel sick now.  I buy new these days.  I just don't have the stomach for used anymore.


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« Reply #14 on: Tue, 06 April 2010, 14:38:36 »
New products have no character.
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« Reply #15 on: Tue, 06 April 2010, 15:52:20 »
It's all about the board chow!


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« Reply #16 on: Tue, 06 April 2010, 15:54:42 »
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It's all about the board chow!

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That's great!!   I swear my last keyboard had a bag of hairy trail mix dumped in there.    I double gloved to clean that one.