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Offline bminhz

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Re: [Order] TX60/TX65/TX84se
« Reply #300 on: Fri, 06 April 2018, 13:12:10 »
Got time to look closer at my board today, and found out the bottom have a scratch :(  it's small and not at a visible spot but I'm still a bit sad, I guess my expectation for my first TX board is high :'(

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Offline merlin64

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Re: [Order] TX60/TX65/TX84se
« Reply #301 on: Fri, 06 April 2018, 13:35:28 »
Well at least we know its coming via usps now, that gives most of us a time frame to be on the lookout.

Yeah that is very valuable information.

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Re: [Order] TX60/TX65/TX84se
« Reply #302 on: Fri, 06 April 2018, 21:49:22 »
i'm still waiting for the tracking info...
Current: Filco TKL Majestouch | TX60 antique brass | NIU40 silver | H360 burgundy | Rama M6-A | tr.mk wooden 60 | Imperial Hue 60 | Tofu 65 silver | Tofu WKL navy | TMO50 green/poly | HB85 black/gray | TX108se titan gray (unbuild)| Gergo Kit: black PCB (unbuild)
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Offline JubJubCity

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Re: [Order] TX60/TX65/TX84se
« Reply #303 on: Sat, 07 April 2018, 00:43:20 »
i'm still waiting for the tracking info...
Seems like most peeps aren't getting tracking. :blank:

Offline midnight2903

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Re: [Order] TX60/TX65/TX84se
« Reply #304 on: Sat, 07 April 2018, 01:56:59 »
I'm getting kinda anxious, its been more than a week since I paid... kin plz giff shipping number D:

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Re: [Order] TX60/TX65/TX84se
« Reply #305 on: Sat, 07 April 2018, 08:22:47 »
by the way, do you guys know how programming is done on the tx60 pcb? it's a leeku pcb.

Offline bminhz

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Re: [Order] TX60/TX65/TX84se
« Reply #306 on: Sat, 07 April 2018, 08:30:19 »
by the way, do you guys know how programming is done on the tx60 pcb? it's a leeku pcb.
Jigon is your friend. There are tuts on yt you can look it up

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Re: [Order] TX60/TX65/TX84se
« Reply #307 on: Sat, 07 April 2018, 09:44:32 »
by the way, do you guys know how programming is done on the tx60 pcb? it's a leeku pcb.

Assuming it's just an L3 pcb..

https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=83950.0 (documentation)

http://kbdlab.co.kr/index.php?document_srl=2702787&mid=board_sw

Download L3_170419.zip (firmware) and JigOn_170419.zip (software)

Firmware and software must be the same version or you'll have issues.

Offline merlin64

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Re: [Order] TX60/TX65/TX84se
« Reply #308 on: Sat, 07 April 2018, 10:00:24 »
If I'm not mistaken the TX60 takes standard 60 PCBs. I'd ditch the leeku pcb if I were you. Save you headaches down the road.

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Re: [Order] TX60/TX65/TX84se
« Reply #309 on: Sat, 07 April 2018, 10:07:49 »
If I'm not mistaken the TX60 takes standard 60 PCBs. I'd ditch the leeku pcb if I were you. Save you headaches down the road.
If only someone made HHKB hot swap pcb I would be so happy.

Offline merlin64

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Re: [Order] TX60/TX65/TX84se
« Reply #310 on: Sat, 07 April 2018, 10:19:26 »
If I'm not mistaken the TX60 takes standard 60 PCBs. I'd ditch the leeku pcb if I were you. Save you headaches down the road.
If only someone made HHKB hot swap pcb I would be so happy.

You mean something like....

https://www.massdrop.com/buy/massdrop-x-tokyo-keyboard-tokyo60-keyboard-kit?utm_source=linkshare&referer=WJJG5M

Offline JJ

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Re: [Order] TX60/TX65/TX84se
« Reply #311 on: Sat, 07 April 2018, 10:25:02 »
What's wrong with leeku pcbs?

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Re: [Order] TX60/TX65/TX84se
« Reply #312 on: Sat, 07 April 2018, 10:28:39 »
If I'm not mistaken the TX60 takes standard 60 PCBs. I'd ditch the leeku pcb if I were you. Save you headaches down the road.
If only someone made HHKB hot swap pcb I would be so happy.

You mean something like....

https://www.massdrop.com/buy/massdrop-x-tokyo-keyboard-tokyo60-keyboard-kit?utm_source=linkshare&referer=WJJG5M

Yeah, but buying the whole kit just to get the PCB?

Offline merlin64

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Re: [Order] TX60/TX65/TX84se
« Reply #313 on: Sat, 07 April 2018, 10:35:27 »
Some people have been buying the kit for the PCB and halos, and just gonna sell the case.

I almost did haha.

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Re: [Order] TX60/TX65/TX84se
« Reply #314 on: Sat, 07 April 2018, 21:44:45 »
if i dont pay my invoice by when its due do i lose my spot and someone else can get it
or will he just invoice me again

cause hes not responding on telegram and i need something updated and it ends in a couple days and i dont wanna miss out as ive been waiting for too long for this lol
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Re: [Order] TX60/TX65/TX84se
« Reply #315 on: Sat, 07 April 2018, 23:56:19 »
193405-0193407-1193409-2193411-3

Just received mine today.

Good quality and really fast shipping!

Thanks Kin :thumb:
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Offline midnight2903

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Re: [Order] TX60/TX65/TX84se
« Reply #316 on: Sun, 08 April 2018, 00:25:57 »
if i dont pay my invoice by when its due do i lose my spot and someone else can get it
or will he just invoice me again

cause hes not responding on telegram and i need something updated and it ends in a couple days and i dont wanna miss out as ive been waiting for too long for this lol

yea hes not responding to my messages as well :(

Offline haichungcn

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Re: [Order] TX60/TX65/TX84se
« Reply #317 on: Sun, 08 April 2018, 00:28:13 »
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Just received mine today.

Good quality and really fast shipping!

Thanks Kin :thumb:

Oh God, this silver one makes me so jealous...   :eek:

Offline mdlt97

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Re: [Order] TX60/TX65/TX84se
« Reply #318 on: Sun, 08 April 2018, 01:37:08 »
if i dont pay my invoice by when its due do i lose my spot and someone else can get it
or will he just invoice me again

cause hes not responding on telegram and i need something updated and it ends in a couple days and i dont wanna miss out as ive been waiting for too long for this lol

yea hes not responding to my messages as well :(

cause i want my blue tx 60 but i put another bag in and dont want it so trying to get it removed cause it added like 65 usd and i dont need it tbh
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Offline TechieWeirdo

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Re: [Order] TX60/TX65/TX84se
« Reply #319 on: Sun, 08 April 2018, 01:46:58 »
Anyone know a good 65% PCB out there that is compatible with the TX65?

Edit: I'm an idiot who just forgot the Mini-USB port is in the middle...
« Last Edit: Sun, 08 April 2018, 01:49:24 by TechieWeirdo »
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Offline yonghf

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Re: [Order] TX60/TX65/TX84se
« Reply #320 on: Sun, 08 April 2018, 02:00:41 »
Didn't receive any tracking and was pleasantly surprised to find it at home on Friday after an overseas work trip. Picked up the gold tx65 but still undecided on switches/keyset.
« Last Edit: Sun, 08 April 2018, 04:19:49 by yonghf »

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Re: [Order] TX60/TX65/TX84se
« Reply #321 on: Sun, 08 April 2018, 03:16:44 »
Anyone know a good 65% PCB out there that is compatible with the TX65?

Edit: I'm an idiot who just forgot the Mini-USB port is in the middle...

Well you can still make it fit, its just a usb port, if you are not scared of a little tinkering.
Made Tada68 PCB fit my redscarf78, although it doesn't even have two additional left columns stock.

Offline midnight2903

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Re: [Order] TX60/TX65/TX84se
« Reply #322 on: Sun, 08 April 2018, 03:42:46 »
Didn't receive an tracking and was pleasantly surprised to find it at home on Friday after an overseas work trip. Picked up the gold tx65 but still undecided on switches/keyset.

GG if you already receive means mine got problem alr.... kin plz....

Offline regionfree

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Re: [Order] TX60/TX65/TX84se
« Reply #323 on: Sun, 08 April 2018, 04:32:01 »
still haven't built mine. anyone knows if the tx60 hhkb pcb comes pre-programmed with the hhkb layout? hoping i don't have to fiddle with it.

still trying to decide what switches to use (hako true, ergo clears, 65g zeals).

also considering a standard gh60 as a pcb.

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Re: [Order] TX60/TX65/TX84se
« Reply #324 on: Sun, 08 April 2018, 04:42:45 »
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« Last Edit: Tue, 03 July 2018, 09:14:14 by Khers »

Offline lanyusea

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Re: [Order] TX60/TX65/TX84se
« Reply #325 on: Sun, 08 April 2018, 04:50:16 »
still haven't built mine. anyone knows if the tx60 hhkb pcb comes pre-programmed with the hhkb layout? hoping i don't have to fiddle with it.

still trying to decide what switches to use (hako true, ergo clears, 65g zeals).

also considering a standard gh60 as a pcb.
It does come preprogrammed, but not with a HHKB-layout. Having said that, as long as you've got access to a computer running windows and set the OS input language to US English, programming the PCB using JigOn is a breeze. There's also quite an excellent guide on how to use JigOn, posted earlier in this thread.


The most annoy thing I met when using JigOn is: I cannot set mutl fn keys in one layer.
Is there any other way to program the TX60?

btw, for anyone want to download the latest JigOn: http://kbdlab.co.kr/index.php?document_srl=2702787&mid=board_sw
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Offline merlin64

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Re: [Order] TX60/TX65/TX84se
« Reply #326 on: Sun, 08 April 2018, 10:21:02 »
still haven't built mine. anyone knows if the tx60 hhkb pcb comes pre-programmed with the hhkb layout? hoping i don't have to fiddle with it.

still trying to decide what switches to use (hako true, ergo clears, 65g zeals).

also considering a standard gh60 as a pcb.
It does come preprogrammed, but not with a HHKB-layout. Having said that, as long as you've got access to a computer running windows and set the OS input language to US English, programming the PCB using JigOn is a breeze. There's also quite an excellent guide on how to use JigOn, posted earlier in this thread.


The most annoy thing I met when using JigOn is: I cannot set mutl fn keys in one layer.
Is there any other way to program the TX60?

btw, for anyone want to download the latest JigOn: http://kbdlab.co.kr/index.php?document_srl=2702787&mid=board_sw

Yes,there's a way but it requires an actual programming tool, and once you change it, there's no going back to stock.

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Re: [Order] TX60/TX65/TX84se
« Reply #327 on: Sun, 08 April 2018, 12:13:30 »
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Just received mine today.

Good quality and really fast shipping!

Thanks Kin :thumb:

Although I went with RAMA for HHKB layout, but this triggered my tempting.
Current: Filco TKL Majestouch | TX60 antique brass | NIU40 silver | H360 burgundy | Rama M6-A | tr.mk wooden 60 | Imperial Hue 60 | Tofu 65 silver | Tofu WKL navy | TMO50 green/poly | HB85 black/gray | TX108se titan gray (unbuild)| Gergo Kit: black PCB (unbuild)
Future: Space65 gray/silver | Typewriter68 ceramic white
Past: TinaC HHKB gray | TX84Se titan gray | Leopold 660M white | GSX96 R2 purple | Rama M60-A lake | 0.01 Z70 silver | E7-V1 MAO

Offline merlin64

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Re: [Order] TX60/TX65/TX84se
« Reply #328 on: Mon, 09 April 2018, 08:01:06 »
I paid for my TX60 on April 2nd, got email from Kin with EMS tracking and shipment date of April 10th early today!

Offline donut_sauce

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Re: [Order] TX60/TX65/TX84se
« Reply #329 on: Mon, 09 April 2018, 08:32:31 »
I paid for my TX60 on April 2nd, got email from Kin with EMS tracking and shipment date of April 10th early today!
Congrats! I paid for my TX60 back on March 29th and haven't heard anything.

Offline Peppermint216

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Re: [Order] TX60/TX65/TX84se
« Reply #330 on: Mon, 09 April 2018, 08:38:36 »
29th for me, I have a feeling its stuck in the UK customs offices. Just waiting for my bill to arrive.

Offline merlin64

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Re: [Order] TX60/TX65/TX84se
« Reply #331 on: Mon, 09 April 2018, 09:13:37 »
I paid for my TX60 on April 2nd, got email from Kin with EMS tracking and shipment date of April 10th early today!
Congrats! I paid for my TX60 back on March 29th and haven't heard anything.

I suspect he's watching this thread but not replying to everyone, hence the reason why I've gotten a "notification". There are other people on discord who have received the same.

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Re: [Order] TX60/TX65/TX84se
« Reply #332 on: Mon, 09 April 2018, 09:32:55 »
Paid March 26th, still no shipment notification, no tracking, no reply from kin on Telegram.

Offline kmba

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Re: [Order] TX60/TX65/TX84se
« Reply #333 on: Mon, 09 April 2018, 09:34:52 »
He got a lot of payments within a one week span. Probably isn't shipping in order.  You'll get your ish...
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Re: [Order] TX60/TX65/TX84se
« Reply #334 on: Mon, 09 April 2018, 11:52:00 »
really dont think he should have gone away right after this cause

my invoice was incorrect and im not paying till its fixed and my invoice expires in 3 days
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Re: [Order] TX60/TX65/TX84se
« Reply #335 on: Mon, 09 April 2018, 11:58:18 »
What's wrong with it
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Re: [Order] TX60/TX65/TX84se
« Reply #336 on: Mon, 09 April 2018, 12:15:35 »
Just got a tracking number through email and he said mine is shipping on April 10th (tx84se)

Offline merlin64

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Re: [Order] TX60/TX65/TX84se
« Reply #337 on: Mon, 09 April 2018, 12:38:54 »
really dont think he should have gone away right after this cause

my invoice was incorrect and im not paying till its fixed and my invoice expires in 3 days

I just corrected the form, that's why I ended up with multiple invoices, one for each time I corrected it. On hindisight it seems like I just submitted 3 different forms.

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Re: [Order] TX60/TX65/TX84se
« Reply #338 on: Mon, 09 April 2018, 12:40:52 »
What's wrong with it

I think he said earlier in the thread that the paypal fees looked really high and Kin hasn't addressed it yet.
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Re: [Order] TX60/TX65/TX84se
« Reply #339 on: Mon, 09 April 2018, 14:20:20 »
Possible. My fees were correct. Add up base, extras, shipping, then multiply by 1.044 and you'll be within a few cents of what your total should be.
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Offline JubJubCity

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Re: [Order] TX60/TX65/TX84se
« Reply #340 on: Mon, 09 April 2018, 15:45:09 »
Just received my tracking via EMS today as well and will be shipped tomorrow April 10th. Paid the invoice April 3rd. hope i get it in time for the weekend  :thumb:

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Re: [Order] TX60/TX65/TX84se
« Reply #341 on: Mon, 09 April 2018, 15:47:34 »
Ships pretty fast. I think he shipped mine on a Friday from Korea and it arrived at my place in Ohio the following Tuesday.
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Re: [Order] TX60/TX65/TX84se
« Reply #342 on: Mon, 09 April 2018, 15:59:23 »
My invoice was incorrect also.

I pm kin, send him a message on telegram, no response.
I posted here, and popkorn was going to help me.

I didn't receive any reply, but when log back into Paypal, and the original invoice has been edited with updated amount.

My original invoice, the Paypal fee end up being 20%.  I've since paid the correct amount and is now waiting just like everyone else.

Offline bminhz

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Re: [Order] TX60/TX65/TX84se
« Reply #343 on: Mon, 09 April 2018, 17:09:24 »
And I still have no invoice...even though I filled the og ic :(

Kin also gives me a cold shoulder treatment with no response anywhere

Online Visionaire

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Re: [Order] TX60/TX65/TX84se
« Reply #344 on: Mon, 09 April 2018, 20:52:08 »
And I still have no invoice...even though I filled the og ic :(

Kin also gives me a cold shoulder treatment with no response anywhere

Did you fill out the form after the original IC? I don't think he sold based off the IC, but rather off the order form posted more recently...
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Re: [Order] TX60/TX65/TX84se
« Reply #345 on: Mon, 09 April 2018, 21:18:59 »
Info

I filled out the original interest check. I quickly placed my order when they went up.  I received and paid my invoice on Mar 26th.  I just received an email through PayPal with tracking information.  I live in the US.
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Offline wholypantalones

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Re: [Order] TX60/TX65/TX84se
« Reply #346 on: Mon, 09 April 2018, 21:22:06 »
Guise, just got my tracking number a week after my board arrived.   :))

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Re: [Order] TX60/TX65/TX84se
« Reply #347 on: Mon, 09 April 2018, 21:25:21 »
Guise, just got my tracking number a week after my board arrived.   :))

hahaha same for me. just got the notification now from paypal :D he must be really busy with all of this.

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Re: [Order] TX60/TX65/TX84se
« Reply #348 on: Mon, 09 April 2018, 21:31:23 »
What's wrong with it

I think he said earlier in the thread that the paypal fees looked really high and Kin hasn't addressed it yet.


my invoice is 487 for a tx 60 extra bag and to canada

if you add it up it should be 465 and some change so idk where the extra 22 is from

i aslo wanted to remove the extra bag cause the board i was gonna use it for it no longer in my sight of boards i want and my invoice ends in 2 days and if it ends i  not sure if il be able to get a new one or if il just miss out on it
TX60 | Duck TC-V3 | Duck Eagle V2 1/1 Bottom | Zephyr r2 | Duck Sidewinder | Mech27v2 | TX75 Purple | LZ CLS | Duck Viper v2 | Orion v3 | HHKB pro 1 | TGR 910 | Omega60 | Sekrit

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Re: [Order] TX60/TX65/TX84se
« Reply #349 on: Mon, 09 April 2018, 21:36:58 »
What's wrong with it

I think he said earlier in the thread that the paypal fees looked really high and Kin hasn't addressed it yet.


my invoice is 487 for a tx 60 extra bag and to canada

if you add it up it should be 465 and some change so idk where the extra 22 is from

i aslo wanted to remove the extra bag cause the board i was gonna use it for it no longer in my sight of boards i want and my invoice ends in 2 days and if it ends i  not sure if il be able to get a new one or if il just miss out on it

Extra bags cost money to ship. I'm sure kin is extremely busy with all the orders, order changes and shipping.

Message him on telegram or email him about it, hopefully he gets back to you. Otherwise sell the bag on mechmarket.