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Offline didjamatic

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Plate Reverb
« on: Fri, 16 April 2010, 13:09:36 »
I have had 3 Filco Tenkeyless boards and all 3 have a very loud reverb-tank echo-chamber sound to them from the metal plate.  The sound is very high and many people might not be able to hear it.  Other plate mounted switch keyboards do the same thing, but I've noticed it is particularly loud in Filcos.  Model M's do it, and it's worse on broken rivet models, so that tells us that dampening the metal plate is an option.

EDIT: I found this thread about the same issue and Magestouch indicated the springs will ping after being depressed on some keys.  I believe a dampened plate would isolate this instead of amplifying the sound through the entire device.

Because of this, I have leaned toward PCB mounted cherries and like the feel of them better than plate mouted... but many great boards are plate mounted only, such as Filcos.  So dampening these boards would be a great option.

I've read on here about silencing cherry key caps but never about silencing the metal plate in Filcos and other plate mounted keyboards.

Now, I realize I am extra picky because my ears are twice the sensitivity of a normal persons, that doesn't mean I hear well, it means they are more sensitive and I experience pain and annoyance at half the decibel level that an average person does.  So things like reverberations from a metal plate in a keyboard drive me crazy.

This is the most intriguing mod I've seen yet, posted by Ripster in the Cherry Key Silencing thread.  But this mod is more about the plate than the keys/caps.  I haven't bought any Sorbothane yet, but may do so.



Has anyone else done anything to dampen switch plates specifically, without desoldering switches?
« Last Edit: Fri, 16 April 2010, 13:17:06 by didjamatic »
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Offline Nonmouse

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Plate Reverb
« Reply #1 on: Fri, 16 April 2010, 13:42:34 »
How about filling the case with Great Stuff or the like?  =P

Offline kriminal

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Plate Reverb
« Reply #2 on: Fri, 16 April 2010, 13:43:54 »
great stuff?? haha
Geekhacked Filco FKBN87M/EB modified with Brown, black and blue cherries, doubleshot keycaps
Deck KBA-BL82 with Black cherries
Cherry G84-4100LCMDK-0 Cherry ML switches
Cherry G80-8200hpdus-2 Brown cherries
IBM Lexmark 51G8572 Model M Keyboard
Geekhacked Siig Minitouch KB1948
IBM Model M Mini 1397681

Offline elbowglue

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Plate Reverb
« Reply #3 on: Fri, 16 April 2010, 15:00:15 »
Lol I actually have great stuff at home.  But I'm worried about spraying that into a case of a keyboard :P You'll never be able to fix it again after you do that.

You know what is odd, when I had my realforce 86uk, I felt it had plate reverb at times.  Definately some sore of plate generated vibration at times.  It wasn't really bad but noticible for me.
« Last Edit: Fri, 16 April 2010, 15:03:32 by elbowglue »
My keyboards: Filco Cherry Blue Tenkeyless(daily home), Compaq MX11800 (modded to blacks), Compaq "MX 84u",  Wellington\'s Dampened Endurapro, Pinkalicious Filco Blue Cherry, Chicony KB-5191, Chicony KB-5181, Desko MOS 5023 UP "elbowglue" spos (modded to blues), Siig Minitouch (monterey blue), SMK-88 (blue cherries), Ricercar SPOS
Smallest to biggest keyboards in inches (Length X Height) - Length is most important for a midline mouse position

KBC Poker: 11.6 x 3.9 - HHKB: 11.6 x 4.3 - Siig Minitouch (Geekhack Space Saver): 11.6 x 6 - Deck/Tg3 82: 12 x 6 - Noppoo Choc Mini 12.4 x 5.3 - Compaq "MX 84u": 13.1 x 7.5 - Filco Tenkeyless: 14 x 5.3 - Cherry "ricercar spos" G86-62410EUAGSA: 14 x 7.75 - Topre Realforce 86u: 14.4 x 6.65 - Desko "elbowglue spos" MOS 5023 UP: 14.5 x 8.4 - IBM Model M Spacesaver: 15.3 x 7 - G80-1800: 15.9 x 7.1 - Adesso MKB-125B: 16 x 7.3 - Compaq Mx11800, Cherry G80-11900: 16.25 x 7.5 - Filco Standard: 17.3 x 5.4 - Unicomp Endurapro: 17.9 x 7.1 - Adesso MKB-135B: 18.3 x 6.0 - Cherry G80-3000: 18.5 x 7.6 - IBM Model M, Unicomp Customizer: 19.3 x 8.27

Offline mrbill

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Plate Reverb
« Reply #4 on: Fri, 16 April 2010, 19:26:24 »
I've not taken my Filco apart (still itchy about voiding the warranty on such a great board) but what about putting Dynamat or a similar product at all the chassis contact points?  Anyone have pictures of a 104-key Filco dissasembled?
Keyboards:
IBM Model Ms: 51G8572 (\'94, \'96), 1391401 (\'90), 1369050 (\'95, Dell), 1394946 (\'89 Industrial)
Unicomp Model Ms:  Customizer 104, SpaceSaver 104
Chicony: KB-5181, KB-5191
Cherry:  MX11800 (x2), G86-6241 "Ricercar SPOS"
Filco: FKBN87M/EB x2, Cherry Browns
Sold: Matias Tactile Pro 1.0 (x2), Kensington Studioboard Mechanical, Scorpius M10, AEK II (x2), Compaq 11900 (x2), IBM Model F (AT), Filco FKB104MC/EB
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