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[GB] Alps Throwback - Brand New PBT Dye-sub Alps Keycap Set
« on: Wed, 04 July 2018, 03:47:17 »
Hey folks!

Introducing a project which is near and dear to me as a big Alps switch fan: Alps Throwback. I have been working with Melissa at Signature Plastics to explore the idea of a PBT dye-sub keycap set for the last couple months using their 1Z Alps mount (not the same stem mold as Alpine Winter) and PBT to avoid stem breakage and fragility issues that the community experienced with previous double-shot Alps keycap group buys. The keycap set will be made in DCS profile (cylindrical like Cherry profile and with similar sculpt and height though not as thick as GMK keycaps).

One really cool thing you should know about Alps Throwback!

The stabilized keys have Cherry-style inserts, meaning if you combine Alps Throwback with the new XD60 v3.0 with Alps+MX support (disclaimer: I'm also running that group buy at the same time), you can use GMK or other PCB-mount stabilizers (like Zeal) "natively" with vintage Alps switches, which IMO is a pretty killer feature (I've been down the Alps stabilizer rabbit hole for certain builds and it can be pretty painful).

Also, that XD60 v3.0 has split spacebar support, so with Alps Throwback you can have a split spacebar 60% keyboard with GMK stabs and vintage Alps switches which is pretty insane to think about being possible in 2018 :thumb:

AESTHETIC AND INSPIRATION

This is not the flashiest keycap set in the world, no, and I know that the Alps community is small but passionate and tried to strike a balance between fun aesthetics with funky Apple M0110-inspired text-only legends and the blue accents of IBM Industrial Model M with classic go-with-any-case-color beige+grey base colorway and crispy black legends.

Here's are a couple renders by janglad on Modern M0110:

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LAYOUT AND KITS

I developed the keycap kits with the community in mind, accommodating the most popular Alps custom layouts such as 60% (Modern M0110/HHKB, Infinity, AEK), 65% (Clueboard), Ortholinear (Planck, Preonic, Nyquist, Let's Split, all the other crazy awesome split Alps+MX boards by keebio) and TKL:

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TIMELINE

Alps Throwback GB is currently open until 7/22 on Desk Candy (US) and Mykeyboard (EU):


PRICING

This is the current pricing and order quantities (as of 7/2/2018) with potential to lower price if we hit quantities of 50 or higher on the kits.

US (Desk Candy)
  • Base: $165
  • Nav/65%/TKL: $50
  • Ortholinear: $35
  • Arrows: $15
  • Split spacebar: $25

EU (Mykeyboard)
  • Base: €165
  • Nav/65%/TKL: €54
  • Ortholinear: €39
  • Arrows: €19
  • Split spacebar: €29

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KITS NEEDED FOR KEYBOARDS / LAYOUTS

  • Modern M0110: Base
  • Alps64 with AEK or Infinity Layout: Base
  • KBParadise V60: Base
  • Tenkeyless / 87-key (e.g., KBParadise V80): Base + Nav/65% + Arrows
  • Clueboard: Base + Nav/65% + Arrows
  • Planck / Preonic / Nyquist / Let’s Split: Base + Ortholinear + Arrows
  • XD60 v3.0 with split spacebars: Base + Split spacebar
  • XD60 v3.0 with split spacebars and arrow cluster: Base + Split spacebar + Arrows

We really need the community's support to bring this project to life, so huge thank you to everyone who expressed interest in the interest check and let's have a great group buy! Thanks!!!
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Re: [GB] Alps Throwback - Brand New PBT Dye-sub Alps Keycap Set
« Reply #1 on: Wed, 04 July 2018, 08:43:41 »
Approval bump. 
Cautionary information thread about group buys for prospective participants: https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=36773.0
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Re: [GB] Alps Throwback - Brand New PBT Dye-sub Alps Keycap Set
« Reply #2 on: Wed, 04 July 2018, 10:54:34 »
not cheap, but a good idea

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if i had an ALPS build planned i'd be all over this
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Re: [GB] Alps Throwback - Brand New PBT Dye-sub Alps Keycap Set
« Reply #3 on: Wed, 04 July 2018, 11:55:23 »
will join in a few days

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Re: [GB] Alps Throwback - Brand New PBT Dye-sub Alps Keycap Set
« Reply #4 on: Wed, 04 July 2018, 11:59:07 »
Tempting, but that's quite expensive... I could join in a few days too.
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Re: [GB] Alps Throwback - Brand New PBT Dye-sub Alps Keycap Set
« Reply #5 on: Wed, 04 July 2018, 12:20:31 »
love the color way and the potential for folks who already have a Alpine winter set or Badwrench mods. Everything mixes super well, doubly so with a Cerakote finish. Nice pairing here and here's to hoping as July wanes on, that more people stumble on this and the price lowers to around the 130 number.

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Re: [GB] Alps Throwback - Brand New PBT Dye-sub Alps Keycap Set
« Reply #6 on: Wed, 04 July 2018, 14:06:06 »
Did SP provide a sample key to show what the stem and keycap thickness looks like? I'm surprised there is not more hype for a dye-sub PBT Alps mount keyset.

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Re: [GB] Alps Throwback - Brand New PBT Dye-sub Alps Keycap Set
« Reply #7 on: Wed, 04 July 2018, 15:28:23 »
Did SP provide a sample key to show what the stem and keycap thickness looks like? I'm surprised there is not more hype for a dye-sub PBT Alps mount keyset.

it's just DCS, so thin
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Re: [GB] Alps Throwback - Brand New PBT Dye-sub Alps Keycap Set
« Reply #8 on: Wed, 04 July 2018, 16:35:08 »
Did SP provide a sample key to show what the stem and keycap thickness looks like? I'm surprised there is not more hype for a dye-sub PBT Alps mount keyset.
1) DCS and 2) the price, probably. And Alps aficionados usually have a nice vintage set, so I bet that those guys won‘t be too hyped about this.

While the color scheme looks appealing, I think that I can‘t justify the price. Good luck with the group buy nonetheless!

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Re: [GB] Alps Throwback - Brand New PBT Dye-sub Alps Keycap Set
« Reply #9 on: Wed, 04 July 2018, 19:37:33 »
Did SP provide a sample key to show what the stem and keycap thickness looks like? I'm surprised there is not more hype for a dye-sub PBT Alps mount keyset.

it's just DCS, so thin

Did SP provide a sample key to show what the stem and keycap thickness looks like? I'm surprised there is not more hype for a dye-sub PBT Alps mount keyset.
1) DCS and 2) the price, probably. And Alps aficionados usually have a nice vintage set, so I bet that those guys won‘t be too hyped about this.

While the color scheme looks appealing, I think that I can‘t justify the price. Good luck with the group buy nonetheless!

wat? it says PBT Dye-sub right in the thread title.

this is a pbt alps set, is it not?

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Re: [GB] Alps Throwback - Brand New PBT Dye-sub Alps Keycap Set
« Reply #10 on: Wed, 04 July 2018, 19:44:33 »
Did SP provide a sample key to show what the stem and keycap thickness looks like? I'm surprised there is not more hype for a dye-sub PBT Alps mount keyset.

it's just DCS, so thin

Did SP provide a sample key to show what the stem and keycap thickness looks like? I'm surprised there is not more hype for a dye-sub PBT Alps mount keyset.
1) DCS and 2) the price, probably. And Alps aficionados usually have a nice vintage set, so I bet that those guys won‘t be too hyped about this.

While the color scheme looks appealing, I think that I can‘t justify the price. Good luck with the group buy nonetheless!

wat? it says PBT Dye-sub right in the thread title.

this is a pbt alps set, is it not?

read the OP

it's DCS PBT
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Re: [GB] Alps Throwback - Brand New PBT Dye-sub Alps Keycap Set
« Reply #11 on: Thu, 05 July 2018, 01:45:36 »
Did SP provide a sample key to show what the stem and keycap thickness looks like? I'm surprised there is not more hype for a dye-sub PBT Alps mount keyset.

it's just DCS, so thin

Did SP provide a sample key to show what the stem and keycap thickness looks like? I'm surprised there is not more hype for a dye-sub PBT Alps mount keyset.
1) DCS and 2) the price, probably. And Alps aficionados usually have a nice vintage set, so I bet that those guys won‘t be too hyped about this.

While the color scheme looks appealing, I think that I can‘t justify the price. Good luck with the group buy nonetheless!

wat? it says PBT Dye-sub right in the thread title.

this is a pbt alps set, is it not?
Correct. PBT refers to the type of plastic, whereas DCS refers to the profile. Dye sublimation is just a method of „marking keycaps with legends“ ( https://deskthority.net/wiki/Keycap_printing).

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Re: [GB] Alps Throwback - Brand New PBT Dye-sub Alps Keycap Set
« Reply #12 on: Thu, 05 July 2018, 05:19:27 »
So I'm not sure if I'm blind but I still don't see this on mykeyboard.eu

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« Reply #14 on: Sat, 07 July 2018, 05:24:11 »
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Re: [GB] Alps Throwback - Brand New PBT Dye-sub Alps Keycap Set
« Reply #16 on: Mon, 16 July 2018, 00:42:32 »
Quick update on the group buy, we are now at 19 base kits so getting close to covering 50% of the MOQ.

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As a bit of an extra incentive to get orders in by the group buy end date, if we hit 30 orders by end of group buy period (7/22 at midnight PST), then I'll add a 2u left shift and blue enter key with no change in price :D Desk Candy will make this keycap set happen either way but let's make this happen people!

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« Reply #17 on: Fri, 20 July 2018, 18:59:08 »
Bump for GB closing soon,  7/22!
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Re: [GB] Alps Throwback - Brand New PBT Dye-sub Alps Keycap Set
« Reply #18 on: Sat, 21 July 2018, 01:33:47 »
I’m definitely going to be in for a set before it closes! Always said I’d back any alps set that came around, and this one is no different.

Is there any possibility of purchasing additional 1u blanks? Either through the GB or directly through SP? I’m in regardless, but the option for extra blanks (like with Alpine Winter) would be amazing.

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Re: [GB] Alps Throwback - Brand New PBT Dye-sub Alps Keycap Set
« Reply #19 on: Sat, 21 July 2018, 03:39:59 »
Quick update on the group buy, we are now at 19 base kits so getting close to covering 50% of the MOQ.

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As a bit of an extra incentive to get orders in by the group buy end date, if we hit 30 orders by end of group buy period (7/22 at midnight PST), then I'll add a 2u left shift and blue enter key with no change in price :D Desk Candy will make this keycap set happen either way but let's make this happen people!

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Re: [GB] Alps Throwback - Brand New PBT Dye-sub Alps Keycap Set
« Reply #20 on: Sat, 21 July 2018, 20:10:59 »
Quick update on the group buy, we are now at 19 base kits so getting close to covering 50% of the MOQ.

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As a bit of an extra incentive to get orders in by the group buy end date, if we hit 30 orders by end of group buy period (7/22 at midnight PST), then I'll add a 2u left shift and blue enter key with no change in price :D Desk Candy will make this keycap set happen either way but let's make this happen people!

Hi, I need spacebar kits, pleaseeee 7U. i need its.

There is a 7u spacebar in the base kit, but if you need extras they maybe be available standalone from pimpmykeyboard.com after the GB closes!

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Re: [GB] Alps Throwback - Brand New PBT Dye-sub Alps Keycap Set
« Reply #21 on: Sat, 21 July 2018, 20:12:31 »
Hey folks, we are almost at 30 sets and about 30 hours to go!!! GB orders close at 11:59pm Sunday 7/22 evening PST. After then, we will place our order with Signature Plastics and you may place your order as a "pre-order" at retail pricing.

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Re: [GB] Alps Throwback - Brand New PBT Dye-sub Alps Keycap Set
« Reply #22 on: Sat, 21 July 2018, 20:19:11 »
I’m definitely going to be in for a set before it closes! Always said I’d back any alps set that came around, and this one is no different.

Is there any possibility of purchasing additional 1u blanks? Either through the GB or directly through SP? I’m in regardless, but the option for extra blanks (like with Alpine Winter) would be amazing.

How many would you want? In 1u I mean

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« Reply #23 on: Sat, 21 July 2018, 23:54:46 »
I’m definitely going to be in for a set before it closes! Always said I’d back any alps set that came around, and this one is no different.

Is there any possibility of purchasing additional 1u blanks? Either through the GB or directly through SP? I’m in regardless, but the option for extra blanks (like with Alpine Winter) would be amazing.

How many would you want? In 1u I mean

ideal would probably be 5 of each row (10 of r4) in both the lighter and darker colors.

I realize its late in the game to be asking questions like this and should have asked way earlier, so that's on me, but in my experience, a few extra 1u blanks go a long way to help fill some odd boards. I know SP does 10-packs of 1u blanks normally... and if needed, i could probably do 10 of each row.  Feel free to message me on reddit too at u/djeucalyptus if its easier.

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Re: [GB] Alps Throwback - Brand New PBT Dye-sub Alps Keycap Set
« Reply #24 on: Wed, 01 August 2018, 18:08:01 »
So did this end up getting enough to run? And if so is there any word on potential extras?

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« Reply #25 on: Sun, 12 August 2018, 17:02:15 »
yes this did get enough to run, and there will be extras available once the bulk order is done manufacturing :)

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« Reply #26 on: Wed, 29 August 2018, 11:12:48 »
How did I completely miss this? It seems like you would have gotten a lot more orders if you had done a bit more advertising for this. No one on Deskthority knew about this at all (as far as I know) and there are many who have been asking for PBT keys for a long time.
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« Reply #27 on: Wed, 29 August 2018, 22:43:23 »
How did I completely miss this? It seems like you would have gotten a lot more orders if you had done a bit more advertising for this. No one on Deskthority knew about this at all (as far as I know) and there are many who have been asking for PBT keys for a long time.

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Waiting for the extras to hit the shelves, but in the meantime if anyone is looking to let go of a base + split spacebar order I'm available to take it over :thumb:
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« Reply #30 on: Wed, 07 November 2018, 12:01:07 »
How could I completely miss this GB???
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« Reply #31 on: Wed, 07 November 2018, 15:25:29 »
How could I completely miss this GB???

Easily, that's how.  :))

Just like I did.

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Re: [GB] Alps Throwback - Brand New PBT Dye-sub Alps Keycap Set
« Reply #32 on: Thu, 08 November 2018, 06:32:31 »
I was in for two sets but i need MOAR. Where can I find extras? :eek:

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« Reply #33 on: Thu, 08 November 2018, 06:34:08 »
I was in for two sets but i need MOAR. Where can I find extras? :eek:
Not sure if I read it on Reddit, but the OP said that there will be some and the best way to know about them would be via e-mail newsletter on the site.
I am also waiting on some extras. :)