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Re: [IC] G60 - 60% Retro-style Dual-mount Dual-mode Keyboard (Reopen)
« Reply #50 on: Sat, 15 September 2018, 21:23:44 »
Interested! 60%+Arrow keys layout, Bluetooth plus USB C plus QMK is a winner for me.
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Re: [IC] G60 - 60% Retro-style Dual-mount Dual-mode Keyboard (Reopen)
« Reply #51 on: Sun, 16 September 2018, 08:44:13 »
In. HHKB or normal, white or silver. Love it.

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Re: [IC] G60 - 60% Retro-style Dual-mount Dual-mode Keyboard (Reopen)
« Reply #52 on: Sun, 16 September 2018, 10:56:55 »
Interested! 60%+Arrow keys layout, Bluetooth plus USB C plus QMK is a winner for me.


Personally, 60% ANSI + Arrow cluster is a winner for me too :) haha
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Re: [IC] G60 - 60% Retro-style Dual-mount Dual-mode Keyboard (Reopen)
« Reply #53 on: Mon, 17 September 2018, 05:40:08 »
I'm a bit afraid that you want to much for this case.
Every compatibility has disadvantages.
For example the bluetooth integration is something I don't like because it needs a hollow space for battery and I won't use it.
Not sure about the double-mount. Best case it's just a bit more expensive, but perhaps there are other compromises to be made.
 
The design is so great and I hope it doesn't suffer to much from all this.
I would be happy if it was just an ordinary top-mount (or even tray-mount only) case.

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Re: [IC] G60 - 60% Retro-style Dual-mount Dual-mode Keyboard (Reopen)
« Reply #54 on: Mon, 17 September 2018, 06:55:02 »
I'm a bit afraid that you want to much for this case.
Every compatibility has disadvantages.
For example the bluetooth integration is something I don't like because it needs a hollow space for battery and I won't use it.
Not sure about the double-mount. Best case it's just a bit more expensive, but perhaps there are other compromises to be made.
 
The design is so great and I hope it doesn't suffer to much from all this.
I would be happy if it was just an ordinary top-mount (or even tray-mount only) case.
I have to agree with this. I don't care a bit for Bluetooth or wireless here. Especially for a board that is meant to be a recreation of something that is classic. Personally I'd rather just get one type of mount and be over with it.

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Re: [IC] G60 - 60% Retro-style Dual-mount Dual-mode Keyboard (Reopen)
« Reply #55 on: Mon, 17 September 2018, 07:23:27 »
I also don't care for Bluetooth. I embrace the wires!

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Re: [IC] G60 - 60% Retro-style Dual-mount Dual-mode Keyboard (Reopen)
« Reply #56 on: Mon, 17 September 2018, 17:33:44 »
I also don't care for Bluetooth. I embrace the wires!

Hey this will be dual mode :) You can always use wires!
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dropping a few real nice ones, this is interesting i like how it looks simple.

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Would have a really hard time deciding between white and black.  Love this case.
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Hey! I was curious about something. Does the case have standoffs for tray mount? Because I saw this picture of the mounting setup:

https://images-ext-2.discordapp.net/external/UWOQGWHH4f3d4_2EW5hR9wfE83tA0zIwmy4SW5WM8-M/%3Fwidth%3D828%26height%3D444/https/media.discordapp.net/attachments/489587683744677899/491242913058127883/unknown.png?width=746&height=400

Assuming there are standoffs for the tray mount options, why even have the two options? Because the standoffs, even without screws in them, will impede any flex that'd you'd get from the top mount option. Just curious if there was a reason for it?

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Hey! I was curious about something. Does the case have standoffs for tray mount? Because I saw this picture of the mounting setup:

https://images-ext-2.discordapp.net/external/UWOQGWHH4f3d4_2EW5hR9wfE83tA0zIwmy4SW5WM8-M/%3Fwidth%3D828%26height%3D444/https/media.discordapp.net/attachments/489587683744677899/491242913058127883/unknown.png?width=746&height=400

Assuming there are standoffs for the tray mount options, why even have the two options? Because the standoffs, even without screws in them, will impede any flex that'd you'd get from the top mount option. Just curious if there was a reason for it?

the top mount option is for those who assembing a new board, and the tray mount keeps compitable for those who want to move his assembled boards to this case.

My vision for G60 is that I will make it some kind of a "Standard Platform," not just one keyboard. A "Platform" that we can try using mutiple combinations of PCBs, switches and plates on it. you can easily move your favourite assembled 60% PCB/plate to a G60, change your mini-usb board into type-c via a G60 case, swapping springs to get fresh new experience. I'm hoping a G60 will be a playground for your imagination and creativity with custom keyboards.

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Hey! I was curious about something. Does the case have standoffs for tray mount? Because I saw this picture of the mounting setup:

https://images-ext-2.discordapp.net/external/UWOQGWHH4f3d4_2EW5hR9wfE83tA0zIwmy4SW5WM8-M/%3Fwidth%3D828%26height%3D444/https/media.discordapp.net/attachments/489587683744677899/491242913058127883/unknown.png?width=746&height=400

Assuming there are standoffs for the tray mount options, why even have the two options? Because the standoffs, even without screws in them, will impede any flex that'd you'd get from the top mount option. Just curious if there was a reason for it?

I think the standoffs could be sitting a bit lower than the top mount pcb position so that you could still have most of the flex if you choose top mount.

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Hey! I was curious about something. Does the case have standoffs for tray mount? Because I saw this picture of the mounting setup:

https://images-ext-2.discordapp.net/external/UWOQGWHH4f3d4_2EW5hR9wfE83tA0zIwmy4SW5WM8-M/%3Fwidth%3D828%26height%3D444/https/media.discordapp.net/attachments/489587683744677899/491242913058127883/unknown.png?width=746&height=400

Assuming there are standoffs for the tray mount options, why even have the two options? Because the standoffs, even without screws in them, will impede any flex that'd you'd get from the top mount option. Just curious if there was a reason for it?

I think the standoffs could be sitting a bit lower than the top mount pcb position so that you could still have most of the flex if you choose top mount.

Yes, this.  I say put the tray mount posts a bit lower AND THEN... include a very short rubber standoff to add on top of the posts for tray mount.  Adding shock absorbing material on tray mount posts has great effects, and it would solve your dual mount delima by allowing top mount to retain flex and giving tray mount a unique setup for better shock absorption.

I like the idea of accommodating both.  Nice work.
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Hey! I was curious about something. Does the case have standoffs for tray mount? Because I saw this picture of the mounting setup:

https://images-ext-2.discordapp.net/external/UWOQGWHH4f3d4_2EW5hR9wfE83tA0zIwmy4SW5WM8-M/%3Fwidth%3D828%26height%3D444/https/media.discordapp.net/attachments/489587683744677899/491242913058127883/unknown.png?width=746&height=400

Assuming there are standoffs for the tray mount options, why even have the two options? Because the standoffs, even without screws in them, will impede any flex that'd you'd get from the top mount option. Just curious if there was a reason for it?

the top mount option is for those who assembing a new board, and the tray mount keeps compitable for those who want to move his assembled boards to this case.

My vision for G60 is that I will make it some kind of a "Standard Platform," not just one keyboard. A "Platform" that we can try using mutiple combinations of PCBs, switches and plates on it. you can easily move your favourite assembled 60% PCB/plate to a G60, change your mini-usb board into type-c via a G60 case, swapping springs to get fresh new experience. I'm hoping a G60 will be a playground for your imagination and creativity with custom keyboards.

That's all nice, but i guess that are things most of us are doing with kbdfans cases.

The design is too good to mess it up and I think the price too high to use it as an experimental box.
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Hey! I was curious about something. Does the case have standoffs for tray mount? Because I saw this picture of the mounting setup:

https://images-ext-2.discordapp.net/external/UWOQGWHH4f3d4_2EW5hR9wfE83tA0zIwmy4SW5WM8-M/%3Fwidth%3D828%26height%3D444/https/media.discordapp.net/attachments/489587683744677899/491242913058127883/unknown.png?width=746&height=400

Assuming there are standoffs for the tray mount options, why even have the two options? Because the standoffs, even without screws in them, will impede any flex that'd you'd get from the top mount option. Just curious if there was a reason for it?

the top mount option is for those who assembing a new board, and the tray mount keeps compitable for those who want to move his assembled boards to this case.

My vision for G60 is that I will make it some kind of a "Standard Platform," not just one keyboard. A "Platform" that we can try using mutiple combinations of PCBs, switches and plates on it. you can easily move your favourite assembled 60% PCB/plate to a G60, change your mini-usb board into type-c via a G60 case, swapping springs to get fresh new experience. I'm hoping a G60 will be a playground for your imagination and creativity with custom keyboards.

That's all nice, but i guess that are things most of us are doing with kbdfans cases.

The design is too good to mess it up and I think the price too high to use it as an experimental box.

so, as hhkbp2 and pixelpusher mentioned. when using top mounted, the PCB won't touch the standoffs, it will be slightly higher than tray mounted. the hollow space for battery is actually not so big, it won't affect the sound of the case when we typing on it.

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Hey! I was curious about something. Does the case have standoffs for tray mount? Because I saw this picture of the mounting setup:

https://images-ext-2.discordapp.net/external/UWOQGWHH4f3d4_2EW5hR9wfE83tA0zIwmy4SW5WM8-M/%3Fwidth%3D828%26height%3D444/https/media.discordapp.net/attachments/489587683744677899/491242913058127883/unknown.png?width=746&height=400

Assuming there are standoffs for the tray mount options, why even have the two options? Because the standoffs, even without screws in them, will impede any flex that'd you'd get from the top mount option. Just curious if there was a reason for it?

the top mount option is for those who assembing a new board, and the tray mount keeps compitable for those who want to move his assembled boards to this case.

My vision for G60 is that I will make it some kind of a "Standard Platform," not just one keyboard. A "Platform" that we can try using mutiple combinations of PCBs, switches and plates on it. you can easily move your favourite assembled 60% PCB/plate to a G60, change your mini-usb board into type-c via a G60 case, swapping springs to get fresh new experience. I'm hoping a G60 will be a playground for your imagination and creativity with custom keyboards.

That's all nice, but i guess that are things most of us are doing with kbdfans cases.

The design is too good to mess it up and I think the price too high to use it as an experimental box.

so, as hhkbp2 and pixelpusher mentioned. when using top mounted, the PCB won't touch the standoffs, it will be slightly higher than tray mounted. the hollow space for battery is actually not so big, it won't affect the sound of the case when we typing on it.


Ah, I see. Thanks for the clarification!  :thumb:

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Can we get a MAO finish for off-white?

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Can we get a MAO finish for off-white?

On the PCB?

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Can we get a MAO finish for off-white?

Do you mean for the case?
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For the case.

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At first I thought an off white would be cool, but now, I want red, green, or, blue.

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For the case.

The white is ALF's Pearl White color. I will share some pictures soon.
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I can't wait to see it. :cool:

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I can't wait to see it. :cool:

Thanks boss!
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What are examples of 60percent boards that would fit the case? Any hotswappable 60percent pcbs that would definitely fit the case?

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Re: [IC] G60 - 60% Retro-style USB/Bluetooth Dual Mode Keyboard (Reopen)
« Reply #75 on: Fri, 21 September 2018, 13:51:26 »
Is there anywhere to see all the possible layouts?

The current plan is to allow layouts similar to XD60, Scott shared this layout image with me. We will update when the new PCB comes in!

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Swiss cheese plate :(

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What are examples of 60percent boards that would fit the case? Any hotswappable 60percent pcbs that would definitely fit the case?

Will check with Scott about hotswapping!
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Just got this today! 1.5kg, will try to build it later. Sadly only tray mount  :(

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Just got this today! 1.5kg, will try to build it later. Sadly only tray mount  :(

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Damn! That looks solid as a tank.

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Just got this today! 1.5kg, will try to build it later. Sadly only tray mount  :(

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what do you mean only tray mount? no plate?

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Just got this today! 1.5kg, will try to build it later. Sadly only tray mount  :(

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what do you mean only tray mount? no plate?

Pare, i mean only since the first proto run was tray mount only. The current version on IC now is a hybrid that supports tray mount as well as top mount  :D

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just built mine today  :D

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Just got this today! 1.5kg, will try to build it later. Sadly only tray mount  :(

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Wow you got your hands on the V1 G60! Only a handful were made in the private GB.
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Really cool board, not sure if I need something new right now, but if there is a partial plate option I might not be able to resist

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PCB prototype is being made now.
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prototype production has started!
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Really hope the new PCB supports split space. I really feel like this board could be ideal for it in terms of the smaller form factor and use of additional layers

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Really hope the new PCB supports split space. I really feel like this board could be ideal for it in terms of the smaller form factor and use of additional layers

It supports almost any 60% pcbs.

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Slightly OT, but is there any chance this will ever be done in a 75%/84-key version?

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I'm so stoked for this!!

60% + arrows + ISO  ;D

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Is there an approx. Price?

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Is there an approx. Price?

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After the whole prototype is done I think we should be able to give an estimate. Just to give you a reference, the earlier China private GB for the tray mount version was around $250. Unfortunately, the CNC machine time for all the shapes doubles that of making a Doro67, so this kit likely end up between $250 and $300.

Scott will take some videos to show the meticulously crafted shapes for this one.
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A must have for me.
Are Hot-swap pcb-s compatible also? Kalih Hot-swap, or holties?

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so into this. This is my endgame case!

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so into this. This is my endgame case!
This is the endgame for me also, although I know there is no such a thing as an endgame. Can't wait for the GB.

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Image Gallery for R1 version, R2 will be much improved!!

Prototype done soon.

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Re: [IC] ALF x Scott — G60 - 60% Retro-style Dual-mount Dual-mode Keyboard
« Reply #98 on: Tue, 09 October 2018, 03:00:15 »
Looking good! Love the retro inspiration from the Cherry boards. Hopefully they are built much more sturdy than those though. lol

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arrgh, can't wait for this to get it in my hands
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Image Gallery for R1 version, R2 will be much improved!!

Prototype done soon.

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