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Offline Mikiberry

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Re: [IC] TaiChi TKL Keyboard ~ Manufactured by Eve
« Reply #50 on: Tue, 09 October 2018, 08:42:30 »
Side profile 1 reminds me of Realforce 87UB, which still to this date I consider the best front and side curve. Simple, ergonomical and good looking. To me, it's better than thick RAMA bezels.

However, to be truly good keyboard, and equal or better than RAMA, this needs to have integrated plate. I think you just can't match chasis rigidity of an integrated plate.

Will not be doing integrated plate. I personally see more cons than pros for an integrated plate.

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Re: [IC] TaiChi TKL Keyboard ~ Manufactured by Eve
« Reply #51 on: Tue, 09 October 2018, 08:49:01 »
Will not be doing integrated plate. I personally see more cons than pros for an integrated plate.

Would you care to clarify?

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Re: [IC] TaiChi TKL Keyboard ~ Manufactured by Eve
« Reply #52 on: Tue, 09 October 2018, 09:02:15 »
Will not be doing integrated plate. I personally see more cons than pros for an integrated plate.

Would you care to clarify?

Polycarb - More thock and flex (some said tactiles are great on these, who knows)
Aluminium - more choices of colour
Brass - best sounding, more rigid than above two - I like to use linears on them
Stainless steel - very rigid, higher ping

Each plate has different characteristics that works well with linears / tactile switches. Making it integrated means losing the ability to customize your needs.
I personally feel this would be a greater loss than gain in the long run. Also multiple pcbs / plates making switch swapping way easier.
Another point will be greater ease of assembly versus an integrated plate (which has higher chance of creating dings and scratches during the installation and soldering process).

Edit: Just to add, integrated plate is harder to machine, potentially more rejects and more QC issues as well.
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Re: [IC] TaiChi TKL Keyboard ~ Manufactured by Eve
« Reply #53 on: Wed, 10 October 2018, 03:45:49 »
Will there be an option without blockers?

If yes, I'm planing on buying ALPS TKL KBP V80 board, and then transplanting plate and PCB into TaiChi.

Do you think this is doable?

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Re: [IC] TaiChi TKL Keyboard ~ Manufactured by Eve
« Reply #54 on: Wed, 10 October 2018, 05:37:35 »
Will there be an option without blockers?

If yes, I'm planing on buying ALPS TKL KBP V80 board, and then transplanting plate and PCB into TaiChi.

Do you think this is doable?

The PCB and Plate would need to be the exact same as this board. 99% unlikely. The only time you can do this is when the case is built with those intentions (ie Norbaforce).

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Re: [IC] TaiChi TKL Keyboard ~ Manufactured by Eve
« Reply #55 on: Wed, 10 October 2018, 06:00:47 »

The PCB and Plate would need to be the exact same as this board. 99% unlikely. The only time you can do this is when the case is built with those intentions (ie Norbaforce).

Not necessarily so. It really depends on PCB's shape and dimensions of TaiChi.

There are standard dimensions of TKL PCBs (although we're talking about unwritten standards), and if the board is in compliance with that, you can put pretty much anything in there.

I've seen a lot of people using TEX aluminium case as a host for donor plate and PCB from V80 and other ALPS boards. But I just thought TaiChi looks better.

It really depends on the maker's intention. Some of them like interchangable PCBs, others don't.

Also, I'm not against the idea of making slight modifications to the plate if needed, as long as it's not too extensive. I can do drilling new screw holes and trimming from the sides, but I can't make new switch slots or make a new plate altogether.

The only thing that could fuk up things very badly is a position of a USB connector.

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Re: [IC] TaiChi TKL Keyboard ~ Manufactured by Eve
« Reply #56 on: Wed, 10 October 2018, 07:26:22 »
Please refer to Post #5. I have important updates there. Cheers.

Edit: Changed to Post #5. Had too much Japanese whiskey.
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Re: [IC] TaiChi TKL Keyboard ~ Manufactured by Eve
« Reply #57 on: Wed, 10 October 2018, 07:38:43 »
Will there be an option without blockers?

If yes, I'm planing on buying ALPS TKL KBP V80 board, and then transplanting plate and PCB into TaiChi.

Do you think this is doable?

There are options without blockers, but bear in mind there was no design intention to support Alps.

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« Reply #58 on: Wed, 10 October 2018, 08:49:49 »

The PCB and Plate would need to be the exact same as this board. 99% unlikely. The only time you can do this is when the case is built with those intentions (ie Norbaforce).

Not necessarily so. It really depends on PCB's shape and dimensions of TaiChi.

There are standard dimensions of TKL PCBs (although we're talking about unwritten standards), and if the board is in compliance with that, you can put pretty much anything in there.

I've seen a lot of people using TEX aluminium case as a host for donor plate and PCB from V80 and other ALPS boards. But I just thought TaiChi looks better.

It really depends on the maker's intention. Some of them like interchangable PCBs, others don't.

Also, I'm not against the idea of making slight modifications to the plate if needed, as long as it's not too extensive. I can do drilling new screw holes and trimming from the sides, but I can't make new switch slots or make a new plate altogether.

The only thing that could fuk up things very badly is a position of a USB connector.

You pretty much said what I was saying. That TEX case was built with certain OEMs in mind (Filco standard). There is extra space between the alphas and F-row on TEX for the status LED while that spacing is smaller on the TaiChi. Top mount customs have extra plate space going into the bezel where the screws are; the TEX case mounts between alphas and F-row primarily. The connector here looks to be right-aligned (likely attached to the PCB) while OEMs have a center-mounted connector in the middle of the PCB and use breakout boards.

Yes, sometimes you can swap PCBs and plate between customs (see hineybush's PCB) because they follow similar trends, but it's much less likely with OEM boards. 

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Re: [IC] TaiChi TKL Keyboard ~ Manufactured by Eve
« Reply #59 on: Wed, 10 October 2018, 10:25:03 »
Please refer to Post #5. I have important updates there. Cheers.

Edit: Changed to Post #5. Had too much Japanese whiskey.

Cheers buddy. I got a bottle myself last Christmas. Had a blast. Very smooth and the aroma just kickin hard :).

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Re: [IC] TaiChi TKL Keyboard ~ Manufactured by Eve
« Reply #60 on: Thu, 11 October 2018, 08:07:42 »
New updated Version 2.1 render. Will still be checking corners to ensure it is good before prototyping.


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Re: [IC] TaiChi TKL Keyboard ~ Manufactured by Eve
« Reply #61 on: Thu, 11 October 2018, 08:10:33 »
I know the majority prefers profile one with its curves, but i much prefer profile 2. lol

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« Reply #62 on: Thu, 11 October 2018, 08:13:58 »
I know the majority prefers profile one with its curves, but i much prefer profile 2. lol

Hard lei, maybe got China buy with square profile I can rope you in lol.

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Re: [IC] TaiChi TKL Keyboard ~ Manufactured by Eve
« Reply #63 on: Thu, 11 October 2018, 10:46:46 »
2.1 render doesn't seem to match side profile 1? Looks like it goes straight back while the side profile 1 had a nice subtle curvature toward the middle. That's what was so attractive about it imo.

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Re: [IC] TaiChi TKL Keyboard ~ Manufactured by Eve
« Reply #64 on: Thu, 11 October 2018, 12:42:20 »
2.1 render doesn't seem to match side profile 1? Looks like it goes straight back while the side profile 1 had a nice subtle curvature toward the middle. That's what was so attractive about it imo.

I agree. The original side profile 1 has a graceful swoop vibe, which goes well with the bottom design.


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Re: [IC] TaiChi TKL Keyboard ~ Manufactured by Eve
« Reply #65 on: Thu, 11 October 2018, 12:45:29 »
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Re: [IC] TaiChi TKL Keyboard ~ Manufactured by Eve
« Reply #66 on: Thu, 11 October 2018, 19:25:29 »
2.1 render doesn't seem to match side profile 1? Looks like it goes straight back while the side profile 1 had a nice subtle curvature toward the middle. That's what was so attractive about it imo.

I agree. The original side profile 1 has a graceful swoop vibe, which goes well with the bottom design.

No worries. Communicated to Eve. Potentially more versions coming in.

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Re: [IC] TaiChi TKL Keyboard ~ Manufactured by Eve
« Reply #67 on: Fri, 12 October 2018, 12:09:55 »
if this doesn't drop ISO support and i'm not too broke

i'm in

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Re: [IC] TaiChi TKL Keyboard ~ Manufactured by Eve
« Reply #68 on: Sat, 13 October 2018, 10:27:11 »
if this doesn't drop ISO support and i'm not too broke

i'm in

Pretty sure they have ISO support. The initial rendering / prototype was purely conceptual.
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Re: [IC] TaiChi TKL Keyboard ~ Manufactured by Eve
« Reply #69 on: Sat, 13 October 2018, 11:00:52 »
I know the majority prefers profile one with its curves, but i much prefer profile 2. lol

Hard lei, maybe got China buy with square profile I can rope you in lol.

Hahah sure. Always looking to spend more on this hobby :P

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Re: [IC] TaiChi TKL Keyboard ~ Manufactured by Eve
« Reply #70 on: Mon, 15 October 2018, 09:31:11 »
Version 2.3 CAD for CNC - still looking through for changes and improvement before committing.






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Re: [IC] TaiChi TKL Keyboard ~ Manufactured by Eve
« Reply #71 on: Mon, 15 October 2018, 09:50:42 »
Version 2.3 CAD for CNC - still looking through for changes and improvement before committing.

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Non detachable cable? I hope that's not the case, no pun intended.

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Re: [IC] TaiChi TKL Keyboard ~ Manufactured by Eve
« Reply #72 on: Mon, 15 October 2018, 13:31:03 »
Detachable though

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Re: [IC] TaiChi TKL Keyboard ~ Manufactured by Eve
« Reply #73 on: Mon, 15 October 2018, 16:53:12 »
reallly really like this ill buy one for sure possibly two if life will allow it.

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« Reply #74 on: Mon, 15 October 2018, 18:42:50 »
NOW WE'RE TALKING

killer curves, that definitely made the design look a lot nicer

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« Reply #75 on: Mon, 15 October 2018, 19:07:58 »
NOW WE'RE TALKING

killer curves, that definitely made the design look a lot nicer

Lulz, all the while the team have been talking. Currently trying to help resolve moon and mira replacement stuffs so Eve can focus on this GB. Meanwhile the team is pretty tied up by Kira80 as well. Wanted to make sure all arrangements are good and settled, so we can have a blast later on.

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« Reply #76 on: Mon, 15 October 2018, 20:49:19 »
NOW WE'RE TALKING

killer curves, that definitely made the design look a lot nicer

Lulz, all the while the team have been talking. Currently trying to help resolve moon and mira replacement stuffs so Eve can focus on this GB. Meanwhile the team is pretty tied up by Kira80 as well. Wanted to make sure all arrangements are good and settled, so we can have a blast later on.

Sounds good. I hope this is more budget friendly than the Moon!

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Re: [IC] TaiChi TKL Keyboard ~ Manufactured by Eve
« Reply #77 on: Wed, 17 October 2018, 06:03:02 »
My only gripe is the seam line on the side profile but I think it is inevitable...

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Re: [IC] TaiChi TKL Keyboard ~ Manufactured by Eve
« Reply #78 on: Wed, 17 October 2018, 07:14:13 »
Is there anywhere else to place the yin and yang (current on top of the arrow keys)? It's kinda jarring against all the sharp angles.

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Re: [IC] TaiChi TKL Keyboard ~ Manufactured by Eve
« Reply #79 on: Wed, 17 October 2018, 11:25:29 »
My only gripe is the seam line on the side profile but I think it is inevitable...

Did explore how to make it seamless, but with the curve profile, it would be almost impossible for me to do so.
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Re: [IC] TaiChi TKL Keyboard ~ Manufactured by Eve
« Reply #80 on: Wed, 17 October 2018, 11:26:10 »
Is there anywhere else to place the yin and yang (current on top of the arrow keys)? It's kinda jarring against all the sharp angles.

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No plans to change from that spot.

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Re: [IC] TaiChi TKL Keyboard ~ Manufactured by Eve
« Reply #81 on: Wed, 17 October 2018, 12:09:01 »
Is there anywhere else to place the yin and yang (current on top of the arrow keys)? It's kinda jarring against all the sharp angles.

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No plans to change from that spot.
:( guess I'll just have to grow to love it. Lol

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Re: [IC] TaiChi TKL Keyboard ~ Manufactured by Eve
« Reply #82 on: Wed, 17 October 2018, 16:26:13 »
Is there anywhere else to place the yin and yang (current on top of the arrow keys)? It's kinda jarring against all the sharp angles.

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No plans to change from that spot.

I like the area it's in, but it's driving me crazy that it's centered horizontally but not vertically.

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Re: [IC] TaiChi TKL Keyboard ~ Manufactured by Eve
« Reply #83 on: Fri, 19 October 2018, 07:51:11 »
Is there anywhere else to place the yin and yang (current on top of the arrow keys)? It's kinda jarring against all the sharp angles.

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No plans to change from that spot.

I like the area it's in, but it's driving me crazy that it's centered horizontally but not vertically.

That is how the taichi symbol is, placing it horizontally is not correct.
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Re: [IC] TaiChi TKL Keyboard ~ Manufactured by Eve
« Reply #84 on: Fri, 19 October 2018, 08:02:51 »
Is there anywhere else to place the yin and yang (current on top of the arrow keys)? It's kinda jarring against all the sharp angles.

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No plans to change from that spot.

That is how the taichi symbol is, placing it horizontally is not correct.
I like the area it's in, but it's driving me crazy that it's centered horizontally but not vertically.
I think they mean they would like it a cm or so lower so it is centered between Page Down and the right arrow keys

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« Reply #85 on: Fri, 19 October 2018, 11:41:40 »
Is there anywhere else to place the yin and yang (current on top of the arrow keys)? It's kinda jarring against all the sharp angles.

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No plans to change from that spot.

That is how the taichi symbol is, placing it horizontally is not correct.
I like the area it's in, but it's driving me crazy that it's centered horizontally but not vertically.
I think they mean they would like it a cm or so lower so it is centered between Page Down and the right arrow keys

yeah, I understand that that is the correct orientation of the symbol, but the symbol itself doesn't look like it's aligned with anything.
This is what I meant
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Re: [IC] TaiChi TKL Keyboard ~ Manufactured by Eve
« Reply #86 on: Fri, 19 October 2018, 17:27:50 »
Will not be changing the spot of the logo as per design intention.

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Re: [IC] TaiChi TKL Keyboard ~ Manufactured by Eve
« Reply #87 on: Fri, 19 October 2018, 21:45:52 »
I adore this board and am very keenly watching. If the price is right i'll definitely get one if I can. Good work!

The newest design is strongly my favorite I love love love that side profile.
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Re: [IC] TaiChi TKL Keyboard ~ Manufactured by Eve
« Reply #88 on: Sat, 20 October 2018, 20:53:50 »
I adore this board and am very keenly watching. If the price is right i'll definitely get one if I can. Good work!

The newest design is strongly my favorite I love love love that side profile.

Am in discussion on cost and how to bring this to the market. Trying to avoid middleman vendors as well.
Do note the amount of curves, fillets in this project is significant, which will certainly add up to machining hours and QC itself.

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« Reply #89 on: Sat, 20 October 2018, 21:05:59 »
I am waiting for this! I hope I can buy it though  :))

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« Reply #90 on: Tue, 23 October 2018, 13:36:10 »
I adore this board and am very keenly watching. If the price is right i'll definitely get one if I can. Good work!

The newest design is strongly my favorite I love love love that side profile.

Am in discussion on cost and how to bring this to the market. Trying to avoid middleman vendors as well.
Do note the amount of curves, fillets in this project is significant, which will certainly add up to machining hours and QC itself.

Of course I am not expecting it to be cheap, just hope it won't be out of my realm. :)
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Re: [IC] TaiChi TKL Keyboard ~ Manufactured by Eve
« Reply #91 on: Wed, 24 October 2018, 08:48:55 »
Latest round of prototype production has started. Seen some of the newer pictures, will drop them when I think it is time :D

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Re: [IC] TaiChi TKL Keyboard ~ Manufactured by Eve
« Reply #92 on: Wed, 24 October 2018, 09:34:38 »
Pre-finished top case - just CNC'd
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« Reply #93 on: Wed, 24 October 2018, 13:58:26 »
Cannot wait!
Pre-finished top case - just CNC'd
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« Reply #94 on: Wed, 24 October 2018, 19:47:33 »
Pre-finished top case - just CNC'd
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i thought it would just be milled into the aluminum thats far better super excited to see this.

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« Reply #95 on: Wed, 24 October 2018, 22:06:12 »
Version 2.3 Prototype Updates:











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« Reply #96 on: Wed, 24 October 2018, 22:20:04 »
Wow these pics look great! Will there be other color options for the logo insert?

Getting close to GB??

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« Reply #97 on: Wed, 24 October 2018, 22:25:50 »
Wow these pics look great! Will there be other color options for the logo insert?

Getting close to GB??

GB will be titianium insert for logo, not brass.
Still waiting on pcb. Gonna wait all is good before running.
Colour options yet to be decided.

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« Reply #98 on: Wed, 24 October 2018, 22:56:58 »
Wow these pics look great! Will there be other color options for the logo insert?

Getting close to GB??

GB will be titianium insert for logo, not brass.
Still waiting on pcb. Gonna wait all is good before running.
Colour options yet to be decided.
Awesome can't wait. Have you decided if it will be fcfs or raffle?

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« Reply #99 on: Wed, 24 October 2018, 23:34:02 »
wow looking amazing.