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Re: Keycult No. 1 Rev. 1 (Coming soon)
« Reply #400 on: Wed, 15 May 2019, 22:39:52 »
My happiness was so short after hearing there is no wkl this time  :-[

Will there be a second release of No2 ss later this year?

Stainless steel was a limited edition release, we have no plans to release it again. Another variant of the No. 2 though...

Damnn, I want that beast. But variant of No.2 will do. Interesting to see other colors apart from contemporary red  :)
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Re: Keycult No. 1 Rev. 1 (Coming soon)
« Reply #401 on: Thu, 16 May 2019, 10:40:01 »
This round will not feature blockers. We've explicitly minimized configuration to simplify production and QC. However, we're picking up the pace of releases so you may see a WKL variant sooner than you'd think.

Hey,  do you have any plans to do a regular 60% anytime in the future?
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Re: Keycult No. 1 Rev. 1 (Coming soon)
« Reply #402 on: Thu, 16 May 2019, 11:02:44 »
This round will not feature blockers. We've explicitly minimized configuration to simplify production and QC. However, we're picking up the pace of releases so you may see a WKL variant sooner than you'd think.

Hey,  do you have any plans to do a regular 60% anytime in the future?

We'll definitely do more smaller form-factor boards. No timeline for it as of yet.

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Re: Keycult No. 1 Rev. 1 (Coming soon)
« Reply #403 on: Tue, 21 May 2019, 14:04:15 »
This round will not feature blockers. We've explicitly minimized configuration to simplify production and QC. However, we're picking up the pace of releases so you may see a WKL variant sooner than you'd think.

Hey,  do you have any plans to do a regular 60% anytime in the future?

We'll definitely do more smaller form-factor boards. No timeline for it as of yet.
What colors would be available aside from the Navy Blue that was shown on Instagram?

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Re: Keycult No. 1 Rev. 1 (Coming soon)
« Reply #404 on: Fri, 24 May 2019, 03:44:19 »
This round will not feature blockers. We've explicitly minimized configuration to simplify production and QC. However, we're picking up the pace of releases so you may see a WKL variant sooner than you'd think.

Hey,  do you have any plans to do a regular 60% anytime in the future?

We'll definitely do more smaller form-factor boards. No timeline for it as of yet.

Hoping there will be HHKB top case option.
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Re: Keycult No. 1 Rev. 1 (Coming soon)
« Reply #405 on: Fri, 24 May 2019, 03:47:04 »
Oof. Now I need a no 1 and a no 2. RIP.  :'(

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Re: Keycult No. 1 Rev. 1 (Coming soon)
« Reply #406 on: Tue, 28 May 2019, 09:57:22 »
Oof. Now I need a no 1 and a no 2. RIP.  :'(

Man I thought you died. or at least stopped being into keyboards. your insta is envious

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Re: Keycult No. 1 Rev. 1 (Coming soon)
« Reply #407 on: Tue, 28 May 2019, 15:57:16 »
Man I thought you died. or at least stopped being into keyboards. your insta is envious

My swole bro with the mummy addiction, great to hear from you! :erikpls:

I came back to join the Keycult, although I'm finding it frustratingly difficult.  :'(

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Re: Keycult No. 1 Rev. 1 (Coming soon)
« Reply #409 on: Thu, 30 May 2019, 12:44:54 »
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Re: Keycult No. 1 Rev. 1 (Coming soon)
« Reply #410 on: Thu, 30 May 2019, 15:55:05 »
Please let the raffle gods be with me! Roll on June!

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Re: Keycult No. 1 Rev. 1 (Coming soon)
« Reply #411 on: Thu, 30 May 2019, 21:57:36 »
From the blog: Introducing the No. 1 Rev. 1

seems the answer is no but still wanna ask: any HHKB top case choice?
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Re: Keycult No. 1 Rev. 1 (Coming soon)
« Reply #412 on: Thu, 30 May 2019, 22:03:17 »
Curious what layouts are compatible? Or strictly standard.

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Re: Keycult No. 1 Rev. 1 (Coming soon)
« Reply #413 on: Fri, 31 May 2019, 12:00:44 »
Can't wait<3
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Re: Keycult No. 1 Rev. 1 (Coming soon)
« Reply #414 on: Fri, 31 May 2019, 12:07:59 »
Curious what layouts are compatible? Or strictly standard.

i think tsangan bottom will be supported too. just no blockers  :(
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Re: Keycult – No. 1 Rev. 1 (Coming soon)
« Reply #415 on: Mon, 03 June 2019, 08:54:48 »
Curious what layouts are compatible? Or strictly standard.

i think tsangan bottom will be supported too. just no blockers  :(

This is correct. A version with blockers will come later.

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Re: Keycult No. 1 Rev. 1 (Coming soon)
« Reply #416 on: Mon, 03 June 2019, 23:50:09 »
Curious what layouts are compatible? Or strictly standard.

i think tsangan bottom will be supported too. just no blockers  :(

This is correct. A version with blockers will come later.

HHKB blocker or WKL blocker?
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Re: Keycult No. 1 Rev. 1 (Coming soon)
« Reply #417 on: Mon, 03 June 2019, 23:53:13 »
Curious what layouts are compatible? Or strictly standard.

i think tsangan bottom will be supported too. just no blockers  :(

This is correct. A version with blockers will come later.

HHKB blocker or WKL blocker?
If the past is anything to go by, it'll probably be a WKL blocker. I don't think I've ever seen a TKL with HHKB blockers before.

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Re: Keycult No. 1 Rev. 1 (Coming soon)
« Reply #418 on: Tue, 04 June 2019, 02:00:36 »
Curious what layouts are compatible? Or strictly standard.

i think tsangan bottom will be supported too. just no blockers  :(

This is correct. A version with blockers will come later.

HHKB blocker or WKL blocker?
If the past is anything to go by, it'll probably be a WKL blocker. I don't think I've ever seen a TKL with HHKB blockers before.

I mean WKL with HHKB blocker:
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Re: Keycult No. 1 Rev. 1 (Coming soon)
« Reply #419 on: Tue, 04 June 2019, 02:54:11 »
Curious what layouts are compatible? Or strictly standard.

i think tsangan bottom will be supported too. just no blockers  :(

This is correct. A version with blockers will come later.

HHKB blocker or WKL blocker?
If the past is anything to go by, it'll probably be a WKL blocker. I don't think I've ever seen a TKL with HHKB blockers before.

I mean WKL with HHKB blocker:
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This is beyond strange...
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Re: Keycult No. 1 Rev. 1 (Coming soon)
« Reply #420 on: Tue, 04 June 2019, 04:36:18 »
Curious what layouts are compatible? Or strictly standard.

i think tsangan bottom will be supported too. just no blockers  :(

This is correct. A version with blockers will come later.

HHKB blocker or WKL blocker?
If the past is anything to go by, it'll probably be a WKL blocker. I don't think I've ever seen a TKL with HHKB blockers before.

I mean WKL with HHKB blocker:
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This is beyond strange...

should be quite common if you're HHKB user :p
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Re: Keycult No. 1 Rev. 1 (Coming soon)
« Reply #421 on: Tue, 04 June 2019, 05:28:47 »
Curious what layouts are compatible? Or strictly standard.

i think tsangan bottom will be supported too. just no blockers  :(

This is correct. A version with blockers will come later.

HHKB blocker or WKL blocker?
If the past is anything to go by, it'll probably be a WKL blocker. I don't think I've ever seen a TKL with HHKB blockers before.

I mean WKL with HHKB blocker:
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This is beyond strange...

should be quite common if you're HHKB user :p

I mean it's common as a 60% board, but for TKL, I haven't seen any board with hhkb style yet. And that would look weird to me lol
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Re: Keycult No. 1 Rev. 1 (Coming soon)
« Reply #422 on: Sat, 08 June 2019, 09:35:56 »
Curious what layouts are compatible? Or strictly standard.

i think tsangan bottom will be supported too. just no blockers  :(

This is correct. A version with blockers will come later.

HHKB blocker or WKL blocker?
If the past is anything to go by, it'll probably be a WKL blocker. I don't think I've ever seen a TKL with HHKB blockers before.

I mean WKL with HHKB blocker:
Show Image


This is beyond strange...

should be quite common if you're HHKB user :p

I mean it's common as a 60% board, but for TKL, I haven't seen any board with hhkb style yet. And that would look weird to me lol

haha you're right. I just realise I made a mistake. I thought it is No1/60 instead of the TKL one :p  my fault
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Re: Keycult No. 1 Rev. 1 (June 22)
« Reply #423 on: Sat, 08 June 2019, 10:24:29 »

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Re: Keycult No. 1 Rev. 1 (June 22)
« Reply #424 on: Sat, 08 June 2019, 11:34:33 »
From the blog: No. 1 Rev. 1 sale information

Also from the blog: The Vickrey auction and why we're using it

Interesting, look forward to them. Black is the best :thumb:
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Re: Keycult No. 1 Rev. 1 (June 22)
« Reply #425 on: Sat, 08 June 2019, 14:56:20 »
OP, you need to go darker. its too brown. Black coffee is definitely darker. WTFFFFFFFFFF

Its hard to decide, keycult no. 1 rev 1vs rama u80-a.  :mad:

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Re: Keycult No. 1 Rev. 1 (June 22)
« Reply #426 on: Sun, 09 June 2019, 23:40:32 »
OP, you need to go darker. its too brown. Black coffee is definitely darker. WTFFFFFFFFFF

Its hard to decide, keycult no. 1 rev 1vs rama u80-a.  :mad:

Well i guess if you're torn, go for the Keycult board.  Chances are very slim that you'll get one.  Then if/when you don't get it, you can get the U80 :)

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Re: Keycult No. 1 Rev. 1 (June 22)
« Reply #427 on: Sun, 16 June 2019, 11:49:44 »
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Re: Keycult No. 1 Rev. 1 (June 22)
« Reply #428 on: Mon, 17 June 2019, 00:14:12 »
OP, you need to go darker. its too brown. Black coffee is definitely darker. WTFFFFFFFFFF

Its hard to decide, keycult no. 1 rev 1vs rama u80-a.  :mad:

Well i guess if you're torn, go for the Keycult board.  Chances are very slim that you'll get one.  Then if/when you don't get it, you can get the U80 :)

This is what I'm doing lmao. Keycult is #1 but U-80 isn't a bad consolation

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Re: Keycult No. 1 Rev. 1 (June 22)
« Reply #429 on: Tue, 18 June 2019, 20:42:14 »
For anyone interested: Taeha Types is going to be building a No. 1 Rev. 1 (Dark Navy & Silver) on Friday night, 8pm Pacific/11pm Eastern. Catch it on his stream! https://twitch.tv/taehatypes

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Re: Keycult No. 1 Rev. 1 (June 22)
« Reply #430 on: Tue, 18 June 2019, 20:42:54 »
Im interested!

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Re: Keycult – No. 1 Rev. 1 (June 22)
« Reply #431 on: Thu, 20 June 2019, 11:29:04 »
Looking forward to this.


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Re: Keycult No. 1 Rev. 1 (June 22)
« Reply #433 on: Thu, 20 June 2019, 12:10:49 »
Would it be any degree of possible to/how much of a heathen would I be if I bought a U80-Ax PCB and used that instead of the WT80-A PCB

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Re: Keycult No. 1 Rev. 1 (June 22)
« Reply #434 on: Thu, 20 June 2019, 12:19:07 »
Would it be any degree of possible to/how much of a heathen would I be if I bought a U80-Ax PCB and used that instead of the WT80-A PCB

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The PCBs are not compatible  the U80 has .5 unit spacing between the alphas and the F-row/nav cluster, whereas the No. 1 uses .25 unit spacing.

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Re: Keycult No. 1 Rev. 1 (June 22)
« Reply #435 on: Thu, 20 June 2019, 12:52:45 »
Would it be any degree of possible to/how much of a heathen would I be if I bought a U80-Ax PCB and used that instead of the WT80-A PCB

braces for ridicule

The PCBs are not compatible the U80 has .5 unit spacing between the alphas and the F-row/nav cluster, whereas the No. 1 uses .25 unit spacing.
Ah, yep, that's very true. Thanks!

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Re: Keycult No. 1 Rev. 1 (June 22)
« Reply #436 on: Thu, 20 June 2019, 16:05:27 »
Hopefully wilba will make a WT80-A in the future with Kaihl hot swaps. Really love the ease of mixing switches and springs  until I get the feeling juuuust right.

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Re: Keycult No. 1 Rev. 1 (June 22)
« Reply #437 on: Sat, 22 June 2019, 09:34:47 »
Thanks to everyone who entered during the 10am raffle window (about 30 minutes ago). If you successfully entered, you should not enter again during the second window at 10pm tonight -- it will disqualify you from the raffle.

Confirmation emails are slow to go out. If you don't receive a confirmation email in the next couple hours, please email support@keycult.io and we can check on things for you. <3

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Re: Keycult No. 1 Rev. 1 (June 22)
« Reply #438 on: Sat, 22 June 2019, 10:34:06 »
fyi Gmail automagically flagged my confirmation as spam; make sure to check your spam folder, especially if you're using Gmail!

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Re: Keycult No. 1 Rev. 1 (June 22)
« Reply #439 on: Tue, 25 June 2019, 13:35:55 »
Navy bois!!!

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Re: Keycult – No. 1 Rev. 1 (June 22)
« Reply #440 on: Tue, 25 June 2019, 14:38:11 »
edit: Removed, auctions not allowed on geekhack and don't want to run afoul.

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Re: Keycult No. 2 Rev. 1 (July 27)
« Reply #441 on: Thu, 25 July 2019, 08:52:35 »
We're re-releasing the No. 2 with minor updates. This time, we'll be selling 75 kits through a preorder and making an additional 75 kits on top to guarantee a-stock for preorders and to have extras for sale after preorders are fulfilled. Useful links:


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Re: Keycult No. 2 Rev. 1 (July 27)
« Reply #442 on: Thu, 25 July 2019, 08:54:25 »
This looks incredible! I'm going in for the raffle!

Here is hoping for a winner this time round  :thumb:

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Re: Keycult No. 2 Rev. 1 (July 27)
« Reply #443 on: Sat, 10 August 2019, 10:22:40 »
Couple quick notes:

We currently have an open preorder for the Rama x Keycult Brass & Black Enamel Keycap. Preorder closes on Monday, so if you're interested, please get your order in by then!

This evening at 5pm Eastern, we're going to be live-streaming our first bi-weekly preorder update on our Twitch channel. We'll give an update on where we're at with our current projects, followed by a brief Q&A.

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Re: Keycult
« Reply #444 on: Fri, 04 October 2019, 11:39:34 »
https://kevinlynagh.com/notes/pricing-niche-products/ - currently #1 article on HackerNews

Riot I'm curious as to your input on this article - seems to be the reason you went with a vickery, and I'm curious if this will be affecting your keyboards going forward - more expensive/exclusive/etc.
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Re: Keycult
« Reply #445 on: Tue, 08 October 2019, 15:22:29 »
Vickery the future :cool:

Bid 10 billion if you always want in :cool: :cool: :cool:


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Re: Keycult
« Reply #446 on: Tue, 08 October 2019, 18:16:15 »
Vickery the future :cool:

Bid 10 billion if you always want in :cool: :cool: :cool:

If 10 people all thought the same idea, this could be a problem for them

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Re: Keycult
« Reply #447 on: Tue, 08 October 2019, 18:52:08 »
https://kevinlynagh.com/notes/pricing-niche-products/ - currently #1 article on HackerNews

Riot I'm curious as to your input on this article - seems to be the reason you went with a vickery, and I'm curious if this will be affecting your keyboards going forward - more expensive/exclusive/etc.

I've been friends with Kevin for quite a while and it was indeed a conversation with him that led us towards the Vickrey auction. However, Kevin's comments in the article represent an outsider's perspective on the market using us as an example -- they aren't some kind of roadmap that we intend to follow. Our goal isn't to increase expense and exclusivity, but quite the opposite. If you look at our release quantities just this year (the only year Keycult has been seriously operating as a business), you'll see that, despite what some folks like to claim, we're quickly scaling up quickly:

January - No. 1/60 & No. 1/65 - 40 kits total (20 of each)
April - No. 2 - 20 kits total
June - No. 1 Rev. 1 TKL - 80 kits total (10 sold through Vickrey)
July - No. 2 Rev. 1 TKL Preorder - 75 preorder spots, 75 additional kits made, 150 kits total (10 planned to be sold through a Vickrey auction after preorders are delivered)

Our next release is planned to be at least as large or larger than the last. We're scaling as quickly as we feel is responsible given our means. While that might piss some people off, it's allowed us to grow while maintaining quality and working out kinks one bit at a time, instead of taking on some massive preorder that we might not know how to handle.

While we're growing, however, it's clear that supply is not equaling demand. I expect that in the future Vickrey auctions will no longer make sense for us as we get closer to having enough kits to meet demand for a particular release. At that point, we'll stop running them. In the meantime, we're not going to turn away money from people who would rather support our growth directly instead of having to buy the same item on the aftermarket. We'll continue pricing our kits in a way that we think is financially sustainable for Keycult as a business, and any additional money made from Vickrey auctions will allow us to scale and grow faster than we may have planned.
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Re: Keycult
« Reply #448 on: Tue, 08 October 2019, 19:46:41 »
https://kevinlynagh.com/notes/pricing-niche-products/ - currently #1 article on HackerNews

Riot I'm curious as to your input on this article - seems to be the reason you went with a vickery, and I'm curious if this will be affecting your keyboards going forward - more expensive/exclusive/etc.

I've been friends with Kevin for quite a while and it was indeed a conversation with him that led us towards the Vickrey auction. However, Kevin's comments in the article represent an outsider's perspective on the market using us as an example -- they aren't some kind of roadmap that we intend to follow. Our goal isn't to increase expense and exclusivity, but quite the opposite. If you look at our release quantities just this year (the only year Keycult has been seriously operating as a business), you'll see that, despite what some folks like to claim, we're quickly scaling up quickly:

January - No. 1/60 & No. 1/65 - 40 kits total (20 of each)
April - No. 2 - 20 kits total
June - No. 1 Rev. 1 TKL - 80 kits total (10 sold through Vickrey)
July - No. 2 Rev. 1 TKL Preorder - 75 preorder spots, 75 additional kits made, 150 kits total (10 planned to be sold through a Vickrey auction after preorders are delivered)

Our next release is planned to be at least as large or larger than the last. We're scaling as quickly as we feel is responsible given our means. While that might piss some people off, it's allowed us to grow while maintaining quality and working out kinks one bit at a time, instead of taking on some massive preorder that we might not know how to handle.

While we're growing, however, it's clear that supply is not equaling demand. I expect that in the future Vickrey auctions will no longer make sense for us as we get closer to having enough kits to meet demand for a particular release. At that point, we'll stop running them. In the meantime, we're not going to turn away money from people who would rather support our growth directly instead of having to buy the same item on the aftermarket. We'll continue pricing our kits in a way that we think is financially sustainable for Keycult as a business, and any additional money made from Vickrey auctions will allow us to scale and grow faster than we may have planned.
well said!

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Re: Keycult - No. 1/60 Rev. 1 and No. 1/65 Rev. 1
« Reply #449 on: Tue, 03 December 2019, 12:08:01 »
No. 1/60 Rev. 1 and No. 1/65 Rev. 1 Preorder Information

Preorder raffle starts this Thursday. Please see the link above for details.

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