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Offline EverythingIBM

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« on: Sun, 16 May 2010, 05:48:53 »
http://cgi.ebay.ca/IBM-19K2002-Optical-Navigator-Mouse_W0QQitemZ120568792231QQcmdZViewItemQQptZMice?hash=item1c1275c4a7


Yep, those are the mice like the scrollpoint pro, but with a scroll wheel.

I may get one for my dad, who, has been having some pains in his hand due to using an unergonomic mouse at work (probably a crappy dell one).
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« Reply #1 on: Sun, 16 May 2010, 05:50:48 »
I'm still waiting for a Scrollpoint Pro that ships outside the US... I've become quite fond of my Scrollpoint III.

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« Reply #2 on: Sun, 16 May 2010, 05:54:43 »
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I'm still waiting for a Scrollpoint Pro that ships outside the US... I've become quite fond of my Scrollpoint III.

I like the scrollpoint too; it mirrors the trackpoint in terms of panning. But my dad could probably care less about the fancy IBM doodads.

EDIT: on a funny note, most people find the scrollpoint mechanism too fast or akward (I like it fast, and I'm used to it, makes scrolling so easy and effortless), or, just can't get used to it. Kind of like the trackpoint: but I'm so good with it that I can use it good as a mouse for gaming.
But I guess I'm one of the few willing to dive into the strange and funny IBM technology.
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« Reply #3 on: Sun, 16 May 2010, 10:23:52 »
It's good when the driver is installed (and the driver does some quite clever stuff too, like if you have two windows open, the scrollpoint will scroll in the window that the cursor is in, not the one that is active in Windows. This is really handy for multiple monitor setups)

Problem then is that in OSes that do not have the drivers, it's very hard to use.

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« Reply #4 on: Sun, 16 May 2010, 11:32:31 »
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I'm still waiting for a Scrollpoint Pro that ships outside the US... I've become quite fond of my Scrollpoint III.


I'll buy and reship for you at cost if you like (assuming the one you find even ships to Canada). PM me with one you're interested in sometime and we can work on the details there.
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« Reply #5 on: Sun, 16 May 2010, 13:21:14 »
Are these the ones which had driver issues, basically=difficult to find a driver ?
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« Reply #6 on: Sun, 16 May 2010, 23:57:44 »
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Are these the ones which had driver issues, basically=difficult to find a driver ?


The ones I listed don't need drivers.

And my scrollpoint pro works fine in windows 7 without drivers; but I've never had any problem with them, and you can always download them from ibm-103 (which is branded from lenovo but still coming from IBM servers).
Heck, they even have files to flash BIOSs for ancient 300PLs.
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« Reply #7 on: Mon, 17 May 2010, 05:32:03 »
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Heck, they even have files to flash BIOSs for ancient 300PLs.


And they likely will have for some time. It costs them nothing once it's up on the site. They are business class machines. Support is everything to a business, considering they buy their workstations in bulk. You think someone who is half-competent at their job is going to lash out £100K on workstations with crap support?
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« Reply #8 on: Mon, 17 May 2010, 06:03:21 »
Double post... Farking browser...  

See, every time I boot into windows, this **** happens...
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« Reply #9 on: Mon, 17 May 2010, 06:12:10 »
If you edit the post, go into advanced, you can delete it.

The real question is who would spent 100K on workstations with no Lavender?

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« Reply #10 on: Mon, 17 May 2010, 06:14:36 »
****... I always forget about god-awful aesthetics... I was a crap admin back then... No wonders my users were never happy, no IBM lavenderto look at while wasting their time on that new fangled internet...
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« Reply #11 on: Mon, 17 May 2010, 06:23:33 »
I would have just bought SGIs, now those were pretty machines...

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« Reply #12 on: Mon, 17 May 2010, 17:57:29 »
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****... I always forget about god-awful aesthetics... I was a crap admin back then... No wonders my users were never happy, no IBM lavenderto look at while wasting their time on that new fangled internet...


Yeah see, now you're thinking... don't forget the cool "IBM stripes".

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I would have just bought SGIs, now those were pretty machines...


Where's SGI now? Oh... that's right... ooops.
I think IBM designs look better.
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« Reply #13 on: Mon, 17 May 2010, 17:58:35 »