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Offline Pete

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Help! I just tried the most luxurious feeling kb - an NEC APC-H4100E
« on: Thu, 07 March 2019, 04:28:00 »
I just had an amazing experience! I have an old NEC APC-H4100E that's been sitting unused in a draw for years. Not sure why I have it or where its from or why I never used it, but I just tried it and WOW!  This is the most incredible keyboard I have tried. Anyone got any details on this model keyboard and its switches?

Its gorgeously clicky, but a bit softer/lighter and quieter than my favourite Model M, and less squishy than my other favourite keyboard, a Realforce. It kind of feels like there is a second click on key release.

The only word I can think of to describe the feel is luxurious.

It's not perfect however. The spacebar feels a bit too heavy, and the enter key on mine feels too weak and bottoms out too easily. It could just be age however.

This is the sort of keyboard that is making me rethink my life. Why did I ignore it for so long??



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Re: Help! I just tried the most luxurious feeling kb - an NEC APC-H4100E
« Reply #1 on: Thu, 07 March 2019, 04:56:01 »
I feel like I should be wearing purple velvet pants while typing on this keyboard. That’s what it feels like.
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Re: Help! I just tried the most luxurious feeling kb - an NEC APC-H4100E
« Reply #2 on: Thu, 07 March 2019, 05:14:36 »
Quote from: Pete on Thu, 07 March 2019, 04:56:01
I feel like I should be wearing purple velvet pants while typing on this keyboard. That’s what it feels like.
#lifegoals

I believe it's a relative of this keyboard


https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=83774.0

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Offline Pete

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Re: Help! I just tried the most luxurious feeling kb - an NEC APC-H4100E
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Offline Telstar

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Re: Help! I just tried the most luxurious feeling kb - an NEC APC-H4100E
« Reply #4 on: Thu, 07 March 2019, 08:22:56 »
nice find!
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Re: Help! I just tried the most luxurious feeling kb - an NEC APC-H4100E
« Reply #5 on: Sun, 24 March 2019, 21:00:28 »
Yes, almost identical to the APC-H412.

I also have an APC-H4100E, and for a long time it was my favourite keyboard.  I had one with an NEC APC IV PowerMate PC back in the day, but disposed of it years ago.  Then I found another one some had been using as a footrest under their desk at work.

I actually joined GH to find out more about it, and eventually to source replacement switches to effect repairs to it.

An interesting fact about this keyboard is that you can type on it without the switches clicking it you are careful.
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Re: Help! I just tried the most luxurious feeling kb - an NEC APC-H4100E
« Reply #6 on: Sun, 24 March 2019, 21:50:26 »
Pete, you almost brought tears in my eyes. I bought that NEC once, and guess what, it got lost in transport, never arrived. :( Looks like I have something to mourn then.
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Re: Help! I just tried the most luxurious feeling kb - an NEC APC-H4100E
« Reply #7 on: Sun, 24 March 2019, 22:02:28 »
I actually just bought an H412 because I saw this thread, can't wait to get it and see how it feels.

NewbieOneKenobi, that must have been painful to undure...hopefully one day you will find a great deal on a better condition board and be able to enjoy it.
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Offline Telstar

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Re: Help! I just tried the most luxurious feeling kb - an NEC APC-H4100E
« Reply #8 on: Mon, 25 March 2019, 11:29:35 »
What switches does i have?
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Re: Help! I just tried the most luxurious feeling kb - an NEC APC-H4100E
« Reply #9 on: Mon, 25 March 2019, 20:55:56 »
Quote from: Telstar on Mon, 25 March 2019, 11:29:35
What switches does i have?

I know not what switches you has, but the NEC keyboard has NEC blue oval switches.

https://deskthority.net/wiki/NEC_oval
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NEC APC-H4100E | Ducky DK9008 Shine MX blue LED red | Ducky DK9008 Shine MX blue LED green | Link 900243-08 | CM QFR MX black | KeyCool 87 white MX reds | HHKB 2 Pro | Model M 02-Mar-1993 | Model M 29-Nov-1995 | CM Trigger (broken) | CM QFS MX green | Ducky DK9087 Shine 3 TKL Yellow Edition MX black | Lexmark SSK 21-Apr-1994 | IBM SSK 13-Oct-1987 | CODE TKL MX clear | Model M 122 01-Jun-1988

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