[IC] Phantom PLATES

[csimi]

As also mentioned, this plate will not fit any of the aluminum cases currently on the market, and probably never will, but just something to bear in mind.

Not even the MKC case which has standoffs?
I guess it'd depend on how much room is left for the teensy.

[nebo]

I'm trying to figure out what to do now. :/ Don't have time to build it myself but no cases are out yet to get built in..

[TheProfosist]

I'm trying to figure out what to do now. :/ Don't have time to build it myself but no cases are out yet to get built in..

i mean i could hold onto it... but idk how long itll be...

[Leslieann]

As also mentioned, this plate will not fit any of the aluminum cases currently on the market, and probably never will, but just something to bear in mind.

Not even the MKC case which has standoffs?
I guess it'd depend on how much room is left for the teensy.

Even if you get it to fit, it will not be as stiff, the bend on the stock plate adds rigidity, something this lacks. How much you will lose is the only question.

The main benefit of this is to give the ability to swap switches without de-soldering.

[Glod]

Electrical conductivity would really only be an issue if you are using an aluminum case, in which case you would want an aluminum plate to avoid galvanic corrosion. Over time the stainless plate could actually weld itself to the aluminum case. In a plastic case it's completely irrelevant.

oh wow, i think a lot of us are going to a aluminium case, and that plates are stainless.

which alu case are you going with? Because i dont think any current ones are compatible... Also all the ones being designed i believe have an integrated or semi integrated plate.

the "i wish it existed" case 

wrong choice of words, didn't mean to say "are going to", i meant to say "want to"

but at least i sparked discussion!

[S2000Gan]

Ive got a question, would I be able to use this plate on a Quickfire board to have the ability to sap springs/sliders?

Temporary Solution until I can get a R2 or R3 Phantom PCB

[WhiteFireDragon]

Aluminum won by a 2% margin, but I'm going to decide to get it done in Stainless steel for these reasons:

Bare aluminum is cheaper, but it will only look nicer than steel if it's color anodized, in which case it will cost more than steel. Most people will have plastic cases, so to retain the natural weight of a mechanical keyboard, the heavier steel should be more desirable in this regards. My original Phantom that I have on me has an aluminum plate, and the weight does feel a little awkward because it's lighter than every TKL keyboards that I've worked on. Lastly, going with color-anodized aluminum will require additional quotes, and these take at least a week, assuming I'm only going to ask for 1 color. There's no way I'll be able to request every custom color in the form for every plate. Time-wise, these plates are probably the limiting factor of this phantom round2 GB so I'd like to get into the ordering process without needing to request for anymore quotes.

The GB for these will be in stainless steel, 304 CRES grade with line graining finish only on the top surface. Does anyone want to volunteer to handle the logistics of taking orders, collecting money, and nag for payment? I would handle this, but my plate (pun intended) is full on this forum and real life stuff. Of course I'll help shipping and distribution, but help on collection payment would be nice.

[WhiteFireDragon]

would I be able to use this plate on a Quickfire board to have the ability to sap springs/sliders?

These plates will work with the case fine, but it's not compatible with a quickfire PCB. You need the cutout slot for the daughterboard. I posted this a few posts up, but these plates have direct compatibility with case and PCB of a CM quickfire.

[S2000Gan]

would I be able to use this plate on a Quickfire board to have the ability to sap springs/sliders?

These plates will work with the case fine, but it's not compatible with a quickfire PCB. You need the cutout slot for the daughterboard. I posted this a few posts up, but these plates have direct compatibility with case and PCB of a CM quickfire.

Ah, Interesting...
Sadly it looks as though I have missed the time frame for that project aswell. :/

[TheProfosist]

Aluminum won by a 2% margin, but I'm going to decide to get it done in Stainless steel for these reasons:

Bare aluminum is cheaper, but it will only look nicer than steel if it's color anodized, in which case it will cost more than steel. Most people will have plastic cases, so to retain the natural weight of a mechanical keyboard, the heavier steel should be more desirable in this regards. My original Phantom that I have on me has an aluminum plate, and the weight does feel a little awkward because it's lighter than every TKL keyboards that I've worked on. Lastly, going with color-anodized aluminum will require additional quotes, and these take at least a week, assuming I'm only going to ask for 1 color. There's no way I'll be able to request every custom color in the form for every plate. Time-wise, these plates are probably the limiting factor of this phantom round2 GB so I'd like to get into the ordering process without needing to request for anymore quotes.

The GB for these will be in stainless steel, 304 CRES grade with line graining finish only on the top surface. Does anyone want to volunteer to handle the logistics of taking orders, collecting money, and nag for payment? I would handle this, but my plate (pun intended) is full on this forum and real life stuff. Of course I'll help shipping and distribution, but help on collection payment would be nice.

dude i thought i was already doing that....

...or am i wrong?

[Matt3o]

dude i thought i was already doing that....

...or am i wrong?

for a moment I thought we were going to have 2 GBs for the same plates...

[TheProfosist]

dude i thought i was already doing that....

...or am i wrong?

for a moment I thought we were going to have 2 GBs for the same plates...

yea... WFD must be super busy in RL

[WhiteFireDragon]

Ok I just looked over your order form again, guess you are haha. You didn't mention privately and I didn't assume anything. Quote is $22 per plate, maybe tack on a tad more for handling, but $3 overcharge is a bit much on your order form. I'm guessing you're doing almost all the shipping as well? I'll talk to you on gchat about all this.

[Batmann]

Prof 125 layout is tempting but I guess finding keycaps to fit it is not gonna be straight forward, am I wrong?

[WhiteFireDragon]

WASDkeyboards is pretty much the only place to get custom caps for that layout. If you want it in PBTs or DS, you're pretty much SOL

[TheProfosist]

Ok I just looked over your order form again, guess you are haha. You didn't mention privately and I didn't assume anything. Quote is $22 per plate, maybe tack on a tad more for handling, but $3 overcharge is a bit much on your order form. I'm guessing you're doing almost all the shipping as well? I'll talk to you on gchat about all this.

gahh though i told you ib was adding it to the gb, oops

i didnt know the final price it can always be lowered i dont think people will mind that

Kk hit me up when you get a chance

[TheProfosist]

Prof 125 layout is tempting but I guess finding keycaps to fit it is not gonna be straight forward, am I wrong?

WASDkeyboards is pretty much the only place to get custom caps for that layout. If you want it in PBTs or DS, you're pretty much SOL

Yep wasd is about it unless you want blank caps then anywhere you can find the sizes will do.

[xavierblak]

I kind of assumed TheProfosist was doing his own groupbuy thing for parts and just using these plates. If TheProfosist gb is going to be the only way to get these plates how are we going to handle the lower quality plates that were talked about? The 21st of Jan seems like a pretty short amount of time to figure out what other plates might be do-able.

I'm specifically interested in the 7bit plate. Should we start a separate IC thread to drum up some interested because it may not really be apparently that other options are a possibility from the original post.

[rindorbrot]

Would it maybe be possible to get the CAD files for the layout that were dropped so that we can try to get them made ourselves?

[WhiteFireDragon]

You're right, I guess there still needs to be a deditcated GB thread for these plates to talk about details or for organizational purposes. I'll start the order thread tonight and draw up a few more designs when I have time.

[nebo]

One of the issues I think with all the different plates would be cases. Example: in my very specific case I'd like a winkeyless plate that also uses a short right shift allowing for an extra fn key and the 7 bit layout above the arrow keys. Getting a case that supports that would be hard enough. There is talk of it but talk happens all the time. The problem with that too is a lot of these cases require their own plate with it and not one from a GB making it even harder if you were to get a lesser used design.

[TheProfosist]

I can add as many different plates to my gb as you want, it not hard to edit the for or update peoples orders... I believe there was minimum per plate design right?

[Batmann]

Prof 125 layout is tempting but I guess finding keycaps to fit it is not gonna be straight forward, am I wrong?

WASDkeyboards is pretty much the only place to get custom caps for that layout. If you want it in PBTs or DS, you're pretty much SOL

Yep wasd is about it unless you want blank caps then anywhere you can find the sizes will do.

Thanks for the clarification ^^

[The_Beast]

I could handle low quantity plates if you say some sweet words to me first. However, I'm not going to offer anodizing since it would be expensive on a small scale and too time consuming

[WhiteFireDragon]

I can add as many different plates to my gb as you want, it not hard to edit the for or update peoples orders... I believe there was minimum per plate design right?

There still needs to be a dedicated thread to handle the plates. If all the discussion were to all of a sudden shift to your thread, it'll get too messy with all the other things in there. Switches and stabilizers won't need a thread, but these plates would probably benefit from one.

I could handle low quantity plates if you say some sweet words to me first. However, I'm not going to offer anodizing since it would be expensive on a small scale and too time consuming

Pretty please with 2 cherries on top? Double shot cherries that is.

[The_Beast]

I could handle low quantity plates if you say some sweet words to me first. However, I'm not going to offer anodizing since it would be expensive on a small scale and too time consuming

Pretty please with 2 cherries on top? Double shot cherries that is.

One caveat to that is a dwg must be provided to me. I will not be designing it

[TheProfosist]

I can add as many different plates to my gb as you want, it not hard to edit the for or update peoples orders... I believe there was minimum per plate design right?

There still needs to be a dedicated thread to handle the plates. If all the discussion were to all of a sudden shift to your thread, it'll get too messy with all the other things in there. Switches and stabilizers won't need a thread, but these plates would probably benefit from one.

I could handle low quantity plates if you say some sweet words to me first. However, I'm not going to offer anodizing since it would be expensive on a small scale and too time consuming

Pretty please with 2 cherries on top? Double shot cherries that is.

is this only going to be for the non standard plates?

[TheQsanity]

Are plates made from wfd or thebeast all going to prof? I noticed plate and prices were included in profs service thread. I am slightly confused.

[TheProfosist]

Are plates made from wfd or thebeast all going to prof? I noticed plate and prices were included in profs service thread. I am slightly confused.

they were but not anymore. I am now only getting the ones that are specifically labeled to be sent to me.

[Gupgup]

Could someone tell me which of these plates are compatible with a A.87 Korean PCB?

[TheProfosist]

Could someone tell me which of these plates are compatible with a A.87 Korean PCB?

i thought bi answered this once but non of them will most likely.

[CAG390]

Does anybody know the dimensions of the ANSI150 plate? ie; hight, length, etc.

[Jersern]

That bump!  If you want, I can send you the CAD files! 

[strict]

According to the CAD drawings jdcarpe sent me

width - 347.98 mm
height - 127.508 mm

[MOZ]

http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=47744 <-- Has the CAD files for the Phantom plates.