[IC] Penumbra Key Set (formerly Solarized)

[Ryan Uber]

GROUP BUY IS LIVE
http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=51026.0

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Hello Geekhack,

This is an interest check for the Penumbra Key Set, born from the Solarized colorway with a bit of a retro touch.

Specifications
Profile: SA
Finish: Smooth
F/J/5 keys: Nubs / DeepDish (both)

ErgoDox
Register your interest here: https://docs.google.com/forms/d/13thmqfAdDN25T2RJvtbPeRSpx5l3AYisgzDaL1aGOG4/viewform
Current requests for ergodox: https://docs.google.com/forms/d/13thmqfAdDN25T2RJvtbPeRSpx5l3AYisgzDaL1aGOG4/viewanalytics

[Latin00032]

60 percent support?

[MOZ]

This would look brilliant in SA.

[Ryan Uber]

60 percent support?

Yes - I am just most familiar with TKL so thats what I did with the mock-up. I would think that we would want a full set and get the compatibility that everyone wants if it were to go into production.

[Ryan Uber]

This would look brilliant in SA.

I was kind of thinking that as well. I have only owned OEM and cherry profile, so open to whatever.

[tjcaustin]

The biggest thing that pops out to me is the multiple colors of mod legends. You may be forced to pick one for a mod set and then supplement with partial sets for the others.  Best bet would be to email melissa @ SP and clarify with her first.

[HoffmanMyster]

I like the way this looks and I'm interested.

[sherryton]

looks good!

[Ryan Uber]

The biggest thing that pops out to me is the multiple colors of mod legends. You may be forced to pick one for a mod set and then supplement with partial sets for the others.  Best bet would be to email melissa @ SP and clarify with her first.

Good point - sent an email about it.

[Photoelectric]

I like this one a lot.  Good color combination.

[longweight]

I really like this.

[rowdy]

I've used Solarized a bit at work in PuTTY.

The colours in this set almost make it look like a slightly darker CCnB.

[Ryan Uber]

I've used Solarized a bit at work in PuTTY.

The colours in this set almost make it look like a slightly darker CCnB.

I agree its not a true match - its hard to find a good matching base color for the alphas in SP's color line-up. Added a second mock-up with the next closest color I can see. Any suggestions?

EDIT: IMO, version B mock-up is a little more boring - its closer to a lot of other key cap sets. That said, I'd be stoked if either one happened.

[Photoelectric]

I agree, the second is more generic.  I like the original 1st.

[rowdy]

+1 for the second.

[Ryan Uber]

Anyone have a sheet of SP legends available? The mock-ups have all plain-text legends, which I do like, but I know that there are fancy little thingies for shift, caps lock, etc that could be added to spruce it up a little.

[Elrick]

VER. A (color=YCC)
(Attachment Link)

Version A - all the WAY  .  Got to give credit to someone wanting to use some beige love in their key-sets.

[quochung1989]

Very interested Ver A & SA profile

[nickr]

VER. A (color=YCC)
(Attachment Link)

Version A - all the WAY  .  Got to give credit to someone wanting to use some beige love in their key-sets.

Add another Version A fan to the list

[Tarzan]

Version A.

Much as I like icons, I think this color scheme looks best with all text legends.

[Ryan Uber]

I also vote A so far. How do people normally keep track of this in interest checks? Just let the thread go and gather a basic feeling of what the consensus is at the end?

[HoffmanMyster]

I also vote A so far. How do people normally keep track of this in interest checks? Just let the thread go and gather a basic feeling of what the consensus is at the end?

You can also set up a poll with google docs.  If you do that, make sure you disallow multiple votes by requiring a username entry or something similar.

[ijprest]

I like the Solarized scheme... so I'm interested, depending on how close we can get.

[Photoelectric]

The first one looks most coherent to me.  With the uniform legends, given that there are already many colors for the fonts (it looks busy enough).  BUT... the 3rd one is definitely growing on me This is just my individual subjective opinion, so you should definitely do a poll later

[Latin00032]

I vote for "A" in SA profile.

For proper support of the 60 percent profile, you need to have a separate extra escape key. The "|/" key needs its own mod. Probably done other things, too

Hopefully, a proper ergodox kit can be included. It would be great to have a kit that supported the "mods" of the ergodox with an actual font. The only problem with this is that you would have to pick the "default" layout.

[Ryan Uber]

I vote for "A" in SA profile.

For proper support of the 60 percent profile, you need to have a separate extra escape key. The "|/" key needs its own mod. Probably done other things, too

Hopefully, a proper ergodox kit can be included. It would be great to have a kit that supported the "mods" of the ergodox with an actual font. The only problem with this is that you would have to pick the "default" layout.

Ah - never had a 60% so I don't know these things Thanks for the tip. What is different about the extra Esc key?

Also - I'm thinking there could be an ergodox kit or something as well so it could be supported. I guess it all boils down to how all of this works out with SP and what the pricing differences are etc.

I am getting a strong SA vibe in here - I'd also like to give SA a shot. Any opposed?

EDIT: Also, am I mistaken or are the SA profile caps supposed to be thicker than the other families SP produces?

[Photoelectric]

Yes, SA should be nicely thick   Can use 2 current SA GBs for profile reference.

[Ryan Uber]

You all probably already know this, but looks like the only bummer about SA is the cap size on a few modifiers:
http://deskthority.net/wiki/File:SPH_grey_blue_vdgreyshell.png

When keysets are made in SA profile - do you just deal with it? or..?

[hashbaz]

Great idea, love solarized.  Strange no one has done sets before based on established colorschemes.

[Photoelectric]

Look at the 23 Commando and Calm group buys here.  They have proper modifiers and better profiles.  That's why I pointed to them.

[Ryan Uber]

Look at the 23 Commando and Calm group buys here.  They have proper modifiers and better profiles.  That's why I pointed to them.

Woot! Didn't see that before. Thanks for pointing it out!

[MOZ]

I can help with mockups and makings set options.

[Ryan Uber]

I can help with mockups and makings set options.

Right on! If you know what you are doing I'm sure they will come out better than my GIMPery. Guessing we need to add an ergodox kit and maybe ISO at a minimum.

[Elrick]

Look at the 23 Commando and Calm group buys here.  They have proper modifiers and better profiles.  That's why I pointed to them.

So don't worry, we can all share in the love for some more SA's - if the op chooses to go this way, which I hope he does.

[germy]

Wow the colour scheme is really calming and appealing to me. Really hope this goes through all the way!

[Ryan Uber]

I think we are in consensus so far for SA Profile. 

[MOZ]

I think a base kit like the one in the op, along with with a tsangan, iso, ergodox and numpad should be good. Maybe a blanks kit like calmdepths had gamer kit, which was fairly popular as people love deep dish.

Edit: By base kit, I meant the TKL kit, however it is all up to you. I like the idea of graphic mods as an additional kit.

[acantha]

that looks amazing. i'd be all over that.

[Latin00032]

I vote for "A" in SA profile.

For proper support of the 60 percent profile, you need to have a separate extra escape key. The "|/" key needs its own mod. Probably done other things, too

Hopefully, a proper ergodox kit can be included. It would be great to have a kit that supported the "mods" of the ergodox with an actual font. The only problem with this is that you would have to pick the "default" layout.

Ah - never had a 60% so I don't know these things Thanks for the tip. What is different about the extra Esc key?

Also - I'm thinking there could be an ergodox kit or something as well so it could be supported. I guess it all boils down to how all of this works out with SP and what the pricing differences are etc.

I am getting a strong SA vibe in here - I'd also like to give SA a shot. Any opposed?

EDIT: Also, am I mistaken or are the SA profile caps supposed to be thicker than the other families SP produces?

Yes. In the last 2 SA profile GBs the extra row 2 profile esc key was added halfway through the GB. You really can't use a row 1 profile esc key on a 60 percent keyboard. It doesn't match when a row 1 key is next to a bunch of row 2 keys.

As others have said, look at previous and ongoing SA profile GBs for reference.

[bueller]

Count me in!

[Latin00032]

Hopefully, the "mods" portion of the ergodox kit can have text/font support.

The previous GBs have blank font-less keys. That would be great if this GB can include text on the "mods". The problem is that we would need an agreement on a "standard".

I could be wrong in thinking I'm alone in believing that the ergodox "mods" could use some text/font support.

Anyone else think this is a good idea?

[MOZ]

Hopefully, the "mods" portion of the ergodox kit can have text/font support.

The previous GBs have blank font-less keys. That would be great if this GB can include text on the "mods". The problem is that we would need an agreement on a "standard".

I could be wrong in thinking I'm alone in believing that the ergodox "mods" could use some text/font support.

Anyone else think this is a good idea?

It is a good idea, problem being everyone has their own layouts, what you can do and I would suggest since I have noted you pushing for legend mods for ErgoDox for quite a while () is to create a thread and gather information on what the most common mods used are.

So create a table with eg

2x Enter - 10 users
2x Space - 20 users
:
:
etc

We can then use this information in the future GBs to produce legend mods, bare in mind, that these would most likely be pretty expensive, as the number of users would be pretty low, as ErgoDox users are currently limited and the legends won't be for everyone.

[AlexJP]

SA please...

[Latin00032]

Hopefully, the "mods" portion of the ergodox kit can have text/font support.

The previous GBs have blank font-less keys. That would be great if this GB can include text on the "mods". The problem is that we would need an agreement on a "standard".

I could be wrong in thinking I'm alone in believing that the ergodox "mods" could use some text/font support.

Anyone else think this is a good idea?

It is a good idea, problem being everyone has their own layouts, what you can do and I would suggest since I have noted you pushing for legend mods for ErgoDox for quite a while () is to create a thread and gather information on what the most common mods used are.

So create a table with eg

2x Enter - 10 users
2x Space - 20 users
:
:
etc

We can then use this information in the future GBs to produce legend mods, bare in mind, that these would most likely be pretty expensive, as the number of users would be pretty low, as ErgoDox users are currently limited and the legends won't be for everyone.

I like that idea. If this GB idea goes through though, I'd like to keep the mods in the GB and not a separate one if possible.

I know the costs might be higher with the legends and smaller group of ergodox owners. Hopefully, if the GB goes through, ergodox owners will understand the reason for the extra cost.

I should do this extra post as suggested.

I'm not home yet. I'd rather start the post on a PC. I'm on my mobile.

[GeeNDL82]

i like this idea. i hope it will run soon

[bupsthename]

This is a terrific idea. I'd definitely be down for a set.

[argyakrivos]

I'm definitely in for graphic modifiers and SA profile!! 

I used Solarized quite a lot, but lately I've switched to Tomorrow (https://github.com/chriskempson/tomorrow-theme).

Maybe it's worth making some mockups for Tomorrow as well...

[amasokin]

Wow this looks superb. Very interested!

[metalliqaz]

I don't understand why the mods aren't colored.  Traditionally you have Ctrl, Alt, and Shift with the red/green/blue.  For some reason the mockup leaves those gray while coloring backspace, tab, and enter.  By the way I like the SA profile idea.

[Photoelectric]

I think it looks more symmetric with gray mods and gray function row legends on top.  This is an unusual set, and all the unusual bits make it interesting.  Versus standard dark mods + light alphas, 2-tone set ups.