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[IC] Custom Engraved Brass Keycaps
« on: Fri, 19 July 2013, 11:04:32 »
PROTOTYPES IN : http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=45974.msg970004#msg970004

Would anyone be interested in a simple, square shaped brass keycap with their own custom engraving on it? There's no profile to cut down on costs. Looks like this :





I have ordered a prototype which should be coming in a few weeks. I expect (note the word expect - i can't guarantee anything) these will cost around £15-25 each depending on numbers.

The engraving is COMPLETELY custom. You can put whatever you want on it. The only limitation is that, since these are being machined, internal corners will have to have a radius.

Thanks and let me know what you think.

« Last Edit: Tue, 23 July 2013, 11:14:41 by Photekq »
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« Reply #1 on: Fri, 19 July 2013, 11:11:07 »
You now I'll buy at least one just to have bro!!!...I think it should say sPaMrAy

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Re: [IC] Custom Brass Keycaps
« Reply #2 on: Fri, 19 July 2013, 11:13:43 »
Well, it seems we need to get down to brass tacks on this :-p

What are you going to do with the top, it looks totally flat, are you going to give it a cylindrical or spherical profile? I know it would be more, but I don't think totally flat would be very appealing.

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Re: [IC] Custom Brass Keycaps
« Reply #3 on: Fri, 19 July 2013, 11:15:50 »
Good to hear you're interested ray ;D

Well, it seems we need to get down to brass tacks on this :-p

What are you going to do with the top, it looks totally flat, are you going to give it a cylindrical or spherical profile? I know it would be more, but I don't think totally flat would be very appealing.
I didn't give it a profile to cut down on costs. You would be surprised how much more expensive a keycap with a profile is.
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Re: [IC] Custom Brass Keycaps
« Reply #4 on: Fri, 19 July 2013, 11:18:17 »
I'm in.  I want some seriously badass seal(emblem) style engraving
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Re: [IC] Custom Brass Keycaps
« Reply #5 on: Fri, 19 July 2013, 11:39:11 »
Seal emblem engraving? :confused:
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Re: [IC] Custom Brass Keycaps
« Reply #6 on: Fri, 19 July 2013, 11:42:06 »
Seal Ingraving?

unless they have some unforeseeable downside (like they're actually made of cream cheese cunningly disguised as ABS)


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Re: [IC] Custom Brass Keycaps
« Reply #7 on: Fri, 19 July 2013, 11:42:56 »
Can you engrave a moose on it?

Also, what height are they? Similar to top row? Would bottom row be possible (nice for some Fn keys)?

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« Reply #8 on: Fri, 19 July 2013, 11:45:33 »
Seal emblem engraving? ???
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Navy Seal maybe?

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Re: [IC] Custom Brass Keycaps
« Reply #9 on: Fri, 19 July 2013, 12:22:50 »
Can you engrave a moose on it?

Also, what height are they? Similar to top row? Would bottom row be possible (nice for some Fn keys)?
They will be 1cm high, which is about the same height as f-row cherry profile keys. You could use them for bottom row, but since they have no profile they might not match too well. I think they would work best as an esc key or even as the three media keys that some boards have.
I can engrave a moose if you can provide a fairly simple vector. These can't be extremely complex due to the small canvas (18x18mm)
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Seal Ingraving?

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Navy Seal maybe?

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That's what I was thinking initially.. I'm still confused :confused:
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Re: [IC] Custom Brass Keycaps
« Reply #10 on: Fri, 19 July 2013, 14:54:30 »
I would be interested.

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Re: [IC] Custom Brass Keycaps
« Reply #11 on: Fri, 19 July 2013, 15:18:02 »
Here's an example of what could be done

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Re: [IC] Custom Brass Keycaps
« Reply #12 on: Tue, 23 July 2013, 01:12:49 »
Not a bad concept, any idea which row these will fit, or when you say no profile, are you going to keep it completely flat?
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« Reply #13 on: Tue, 23 July 2013, 10:59:36 »
I would be interested.
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Re: [IC] Custom Brass Keycaps
« Reply #14 on: Tue, 23 July 2013, 11:01:57 »
I would want a couple with engraving!




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Re: [IC] Custom Brass Keycaps
« Reply #15 on: Tue, 23 July 2013, 11:07:19 »
Not a bad concept, any idea which row these will fit, or when you say no profile, are you going to keep it completely flat?
They are square-shaped. Completely flat.

I have my prototypes here now. They're absolutely beautiful and my machinist has done a great job of the engraving. They're also bulky as hell (weight 25g each) and have an amazing feel to them. I need to smooth some things out with them before I even think about selling any though.

They're hard to photograph since they're so shiny.. but this should give a good idea of how it looks. I'm afraid I don't have an MX board to put it on atm.

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Re: [IC] Custom Engraved Brass Keycaps
« Reply #16 on: Tue, 23 July 2013, 11:15:11 »
Curious as to how these would look on a board though, like does the height match with row1 (function row)?

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Re: [IC] Custom Engraved Brass Keycaps
« Reply #17 on: Tue, 23 July 2013, 11:16:11 »
Curious as to how these would look on a board though, like does the height match with row1 (function row)?
These are 1cm high, very close to the height of Cherry profile R1 caps. I'm curious too. I think they'd be most suited to esc, or as media keys.
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Re: [IC] Custom Engraved Brass Keycaps
« Reply #18 on: Tue, 23 July 2013, 11:17:52 »
Looks real nice. If only it were spherical.

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« Reply #19 on: Tue, 23 July 2013, 13:01:13 »
Not a bad concept, any idea which row these will fit, or when you say no profile, are you going to keep it completely flat?
They are square-shaped. Completely flat.

I have my prototypes here now. They're absolutely beautiful and my machinist has done a great job of the engraving. They're also bulky as hell (weight 25g each) and have an amazing feel to them. I need to smooth some things out with them before I even think about selling any though.

They're hard to photograph since they're so shiny.. but this should give a good idea of how it looks. I'm afraid I don't have an MX board to put it on atm.

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It really does look fantastic. Very heavy though, you'll need a heavier spring under that bad boy to compensate. I wonder if anyone would fill an entire keyboard with these lol.
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Re: [IC] Custom Brass Keycaps
« Reply #20 on: Tue, 23 July 2013, 13:04:26 »
Not a bad concept, any idea which row these will fit, or when you say no profile, are you going to keep it completely flat?
They are square-shaped. Completely flat.

I have my prototypes here now. They're absolutely beautiful and my machinist has done a great job of the engraving. They're also bulky as hell (weight 25g each) and have an amazing feel to them. I need to smooth some things out with them before I even think about selling any though.

They're hard to photograph since they're so shiny.. but this should give a good idea of how it looks. I'm afraid I don't have an MX board to put it on atm.

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It really does look fantastic. Very heavy though, you'll need a heavier spring under that bad boy to compensate. I wonder if anyone would fill an entire keyboard with these lol.
I don't think you'd want to put it on a key you use frequently :)) At least it isn't 50g.. then you wouldn't even be able to use it on lighter switches. Thanks for the compliment :)
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Re: [IC] Custom Engraved Brass Keycaps
« Reply #21 on: Tue, 23 July 2013, 20:59:25 »
Good thing, I am getting 80g springs :D

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« Reply #22 on: Wed, 24 July 2013, 13:00:39 »
Lead-free?

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Re: [IC] Custom Engraved Brass Keycaps
« Reply #23 on: Wed, 24 July 2013, 13:09:45 »
Lead-free?

Since when did Brass contain Lead?

Also I am in for a few of these once you start selling :)
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« Reply #24 on: Thu, 25 July 2013, 15:01:42 »
Lead-free?

Since when did Brass contain Lead?

Also I am in for a few of these once you start selling :)
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« Reply #25 on: Thu, 25 July 2013, 15:07:55 »
I will ask my machinist about the lead content. Is it very important to you?
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« Reply #26 on: Thu, 25 July 2013, 15:42:03 »
The brass is a grade that contains small amounts of lead. It allows it to be machined easier.
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« Reply #27 on: Thu, 25 July 2013, 15:47:37 »
I'm pretty sure its fine unless you decide to ingest the key or put it in your water supply.
unless they have some unforeseeable downside (like they're actually made of cream cheese cunningly disguised as ABS)


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« Reply #28 on: Thu, 25 July 2013, 15:54:12 »
I'm pretty sure its fine unless you decide to ingest the key or put it in your water supply.
Yeah. It's totally fine. Even an entirely lead keycap would be fine.. It's not going to poison anyone :))
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« Reply #29 on: Thu, 25 July 2013, 15:55:26 »
I'm pretty sure its fine unless you decide to ingest the key or put it in your water supply.
Yeah. It's totally fine. Even an entirely lead keycap would be fine.. It's not going to poison anyone :))

But be sure if you send any to California it's labeled as containing a toxic substance. ;)

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« Reply #31 on: Wed, 07 August 2013, 20:17:56 »
Photekq, would it be at all possible to share the CAD files for these, I would like to see if the local machinist can make these, I might get him to try on other materials as well, such as SS, Alu.

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« Reply #32 on: Fri, 09 August 2013, 15:27:08 »
You now I'll buy at least one just to have bro!!!...I think it should say sPaMrAy

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« Reply #33 on: Fri, 09 August 2013, 15:39:49 »
I'd be interested depending on price. :)
Looks pretty cool. How is the fit on the Cherry MX stem? I have heard that metal keycaps will sometimes fit very tightly.
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« Reply #34 on: Fri, 09 August 2013, 20:14:22 »
Photekq, would it be at all possible to share the CAD files for these, I would like to see if the local machinist can make these, I might get him to try on other materials as well, such as SS, Alu.
No, not at the moment. I'm still playing with the design and waiting to hear back from testers. Maybe at a later date, but at the moment I still have many things to change.
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I'd be interested depending on price. :)
Looks pretty cool. How is the fit on the Cherry MX stem? I have heard that metal keycaps will sometimes fit very tightly.

The original prototypes (with TEK logo) were very tight. The V2s I had made for Bunny and HoffmanMyster fit very, very well.
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« Reply #35 on: Fri, 09 August 2013, 20:54:58 »
I'd be in.

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« Reply #36 on: Fri, 09 August 2013, 20:56:13 »
I'd be in.

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« Reply #37 on: Sat, 10 August 2013, 00:23:04 »
Okay everybody.  If this doesn't get you excited for these I don't know what will!  Welcome to the dark side.

In case it isn't clear, the logo on this is raised, rather than being engraved and cut into the cap.  I really like the look.

Please enjoy the photos below and an album with 11 additional photos here.


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« Reply #38 on: Sat, 10 August 2013, 00:32:01 »
I would be interested in one with a Darth Vader etching? That would look so badass..
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« Reply #39 on: Sat, 10 August 2013, 03:03:54 »
Okay everybody.  If this doesn't get you excited for these I don't know what will!  Welcome to the dark side.

In case it isn't clear, the logo on this is raised, rather than being engraved and cut into the cap.  I really like the look.

Please enjoy the photos below and an album with 11 additional photos here.

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Different lighting
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DSC01920 by HoffmanMyster, on Flickr

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I fell in love when I saw that, the design is perfect for the keycap, reminds you of old navy seals, or pirates, ships, colonial days.
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« Reply #41 on: Sat, 10 August 2013, 04:00:39 »
If I can, I would get this:

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« Reply #42 on: Sat, 10 August 2013, 07:30:51 »
oOOHH, GoT House Sigils.

I love it, but I'd also like to see a quote on a key with... any profile. Spherical might be cool with a brass keycap. But I just want some profile, at all.

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« Reply #43 on: Sat, 10 August 2013, 07:37:25 »
You now I'll buy at least one just to have bro!!!...I think it should say sPaMrAy

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« Reply #44 on: Thu, 29 August 2013, 23:06:24 »
Any word on this? :D
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« Reply #45 on: Fri, 30 August 2013, 00:03:06 »
That prototype looks kick ass photeq.
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« Reply #46 on: Fri, 30 August 2013, 02:32:27 »
Any word on this? :D
Next revision coming soon :)
That prototype looks kick ass photeq.
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« Reply #48 on: Fri, 30 August 2013, 08:00:09 »
Can I get one with a Darth Vader etching? That would look so badass..

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I wouldn't mind a storm trooper either :D

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« Reply #49 on: Fri, 30 August 2013, 13:13:35 »
Waiting.

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« Reply #50 on: Sat, 07 September 2013, 07:26:35 »
I'd get one with a raised brass knuckle on it
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« Reply #51 on: Sun, 08 September 2013, 13:59:53 »
Can I get one with a Darth Vader etching? That would look so badass..

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I wouldn't mind a storm trooper either :D

I just had a brilliant idea.. Darth Vader... over marijuana leaf background.. on brass... /dead

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« Reply #52 on: Mon, 09 September 2013, 07:42:21 »
I made a couple of possible designs in Inventor, if possible I'd like to get the knuckle duster one, if you're still making these.
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« Reply #53 on: Mon, 09 September 2013, 09:12:28 »
I made a couple of possible designs in Inventor, if possible I'd like to get the knuckle duster one, if you're still making these.
Still in kinda semi-beta phase, so they aren't readily available (yet). Knuckle duster looks really nice though :)
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« Reply #54 on: Mon, 09 September 2013, 09:15:23 »
Brass knuckle brass cap looks incredible haha

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Re: [IC] Custom Engraved Brass Keycaps
« Reply #55 on: Sat, 14 September 2013, 22:53:25 »
Definitely interested. I would love to have the Half Life lambda on one of these.

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« Reply #56 on: Sun, 15 September 2013, 03:49:53 »
Definitely interested. I would love to have the Half Life lambda on one of these.

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That's genius, although if he calls and wants it too be a one-off that's fine.
unless they have some unforeseeable downside (like they're actually made of cream cheese cunningly disguised as ABS)


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Re: [IC] Custom Engraved Brass Keycaps
« Reply #57 on: Sun, 15 September 2013, 13:21:29 »
I want!

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« Reply #58 on: Sat, 21 September 2013, 04:12:44 »
what a geek! awesome!!

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« Reply #59 on: Sat, 21 September 2013, 04:51:47 »
These looks so odd... I am in!

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« Reply #60 on: Mon, 23 September 2013, 16:17:17 »
I'd buy a few. Probably get some weird looks from everyone at school, but dammit they look too good.
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« Reply #61 on: Wed, 02 October 2013, 22:09:36 »
**** looks expensive.
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« Reply #62 on: Wed, 02 October 2013, 22:11:34 »
Any chance you could get these cut with a topre stem?

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Re: [IC] Custom Engraved Brass Keycaps
« Reply #63 on: Thu, 03 October 2013, 02:35:45 »
Any chance you could get these cut with a topre stem?
I'm sure it could be done. I would like to get the MX design perfected before I try it though.
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Re: [IC] Custom Engraved Brass Keycaps
« Reply #64 on: Wed, 09 October 2013, 14:39:02 »
I need a tester. (currently have 3 testers, need 4) Keycap will be made for you in the next few weeks. It'll cost around £30-35+shipping. You can choose normal engraving, negative engraving (like the starwars one) and you can ofc have your own design.

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Re: [IC] Custom Engraved Brass Keycaps
« Reply #65 on: Wed, 09 October 2013, 14:45:19 »
I need a tester. (currently have 3 testers, need 4) Keycap will be made for you in the next few weeks. It'll cost around £30-35+shipping. You can choose normal engraving, negative engraving (like the starwars one) and you can ofc have your own design.

PM me if interested.

Damn, if I had the money, I'd be all over that.  They're dead sexy.

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« Reply #66 on: Wed, 09 October 2013, 14:55:28 »
Awesome, PM'd.

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« Reply #67 on: Wed, 09 October 2013, 14:59:37 »
possible winkeys? what height are these compared to gmks?

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Re: [IC] Custom Engraved Brass Keycaps
« Reply #68 on: Tue, 29 October 2013, 16:44:58 »
Few more that got made :

Hard to make the first one out since it's a bad photo - it's cthulu.



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« Reply #69 on: Tue, 29 October 2013, 17:07:53 »
Can't wait till I can officially buy some. Are they going to be limited numbers or what ever production can support?
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« Reply #70 on: Tue, 29 October 2013, 17:19:29 »
Can't wait till I can officially buy some. Are they going to be limited numbers or what ever production can support?
I really can't say at the moment. I am just working on making the design perfect at the minute.
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« Reply #71 on: Wed, 30 October 2013, 03:42:31 »
Great!  Really fascinated.

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Re: [IC] Custom Engraved Brass Keycaps
« Reply #72 on: Wed, 30 October 2013, 11:24:19 »
A planet express logo would be sweet  :rolleyes:

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Re: [IC] Custom Engraved Brass Keycaps
« Reply #73 on: Wed, 30 October 2013, 18:04:10 »
A planet express logo would be sweet  :rolleyes:

Where were you with these ideas when I was picking a design for my cap??  That would have been a great idea.   :p

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« Reply #74 on: Wed, 30 October 2013, 18:49:26 »
A planet express logo would be sweet  :rolleyes:

Where were you with these ideas when I was picking a design for my cap??  That would have been a great idea.   :p
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Re: [IC] Custom Engraved Brass Keycaps
« Reply #75 on: Wed, 30 October 2013, 18:49:56 »
code key please!  :cool:

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« Reply #76 on: Wed, 30 October 2013, 22:57:22 »
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Re: [IC] Custom Engraved Brass Keycaps
« Reply #77 on: Fri, 08 November 2013, 14:15:46 »
Found this in the total mess of folders and photos that is my desktop. Pretty cool I think. Shows hoffman's star wars cap mid-machining. I know cpt will love this one..

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« Reply #78 on: Fri, 08 November 2013, 14:25:36 »
Found this in the total mess of folders and photos that is my desktop. Pretty cool I think. Shows hoffman's star wars cap mid-machining. I know cpt will love this one..

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How long does it take for one of these to be machined on average, I know it depends on the design, but a rough estimate.

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« Reply #79 on: Fri, 08 November 2013, 14:29:01 »
Found this in the total mess of folders and photos that is my desktop. Pretty cool I think. Shows hoffman's star wars cap mid-machining. I know cpt will love this one..

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How long does it take for one of these to be machined on average, I know it depends on the design, but a rough estimate.
I really have no clue, sorry. My machinist is currently away so I cannot ask him.
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Re: [IC] Custom Engraved Brass Keycaps
« Reply #80 on: Fri, 08 November 2013, 14:43:09 »
Found this in the total mess of folders and photos that is my desktop. Pretty cool I think. Shows hoffman's star wars cap mid-machining. I know cpt will love this one..

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YES, MORE MACHINING PORN PLEASE <3


How long does it take for one of these to be machined on average, I know it depends on the design, but a rough estimate.

If that is a manual mill, I would say it would take me about two or three hours for just the top side design, depending on how complex the design is. Total time for me and my skill level is probably 5-8 hours, depending on how much material is being removed. I'm also not pro at the mill so my judgment could be way off.
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Re: [IC] Custom Engraved Brass Keycaps
« Reply #81 on: Fri, 08 November 2013, 14:48:42 »
It isn't a manual mill. It's CNC.

I'll see if I can send you some more machining porn cpt, although I don't have any more keycap related machining porn, so I'll keep it out of this thread ;)
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« Reply #82 on: Fri, 08 November 2013, 14:50:38 »
Oh if it's CNC I bet it's about 2-3 hours total for something like that. My best guess XD

And machining porn is always accepted :D

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Re: [IC] Custom Engraved Brass Keycaps
« Reply #83 on: Fri, 08 November 2013, 16:24:31 »
Found this in the total mess of folders and photos that is my desktop. Pretty cool I think. Shows hoffman's star wars cap mid-machining. I know cpt will love this one..

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IT'S GORGEOUS!  Machining porn is so great.  Lovely to see a mid-machining shot of that cap.  :D

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Re: [IC] Custom Engraved Brass Keycaps
« Reply #84 on: Fri, 08 November 2013, 16:45:33 »
I am going to need one of these eventually.  ;)

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« Reply #85 on: Fri, 08 November 2013, 18:25:02 »
How long does it take for one of these to be machined on average, I know it depends on the design, but a rough estimate.
It takes around 2 hours total. That includes cutting it down to size on a lathe, polishing it, and also all the tool changing on the router.

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« Reply #86 on: Fri, 08 November 2013, 18:26:06 »
Thanks!

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« Reply #87 on: Thu, 14 November 2013, 00:38:12 »
Got mine today, and I gotta say it looks incredible in person. You did a great job on these and it fits perfectly snug on the stem, not too tight and not at all wobbly. Gonna post some pics and short review tomorrow  :thumb:

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Re: [IC] Custom Engraved Brass Keycaps
« Reply #88 on: Thu, 14 November 2013, 01:21:11 »
My new brass cap came in!  Teaser pics below.  Will post more when I get the chance to do a proper photo shoot.   :)


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« Reply #89 on: Thu, 14 November 2013, 02:33:02 »
Got mine today, and I gotta say it looks incredible in person. You did a great job on these and it fits perfectly snug on the stem, not too tight and not at all wobbly. Gonna post some pics and short review tomorrow  :thumb:
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Re: [IC] Custom Engraved Brass Keycaps
« Reply #90 on: Thu, 14 November 2013, 21:49:47 »
Looking forward to Hoff's professional pics, mine won't do it justice. It does indeed look incredible in person.


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« Reply #91 on: Thu, 14 November 2013, 23:22:39 »
They look fantastic in person. I had some trouble photographing it because of the level of detail  :eek:
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« Reply #92 on: Thu, 14 November 2013, 23:24:44 »
nice one.

a "Full metal alchemist" icon could be nice on this
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« Reply #93 on: Fri, 15 November 2013, 12:39:31 »
Thanks for posting pics noisy and hester. Happy to see they arrived safely. Only nubbs' is still in the mail!

And yeah noisy, that engraving is hella hard to photograph. You did a good job on that photo for sure.

nice one.

a "Full metal alchemist" icon could be nice on this
Ooh yeah, I like that one!
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Re: [IC] Custom Engraved Brass Keycaps
« Reply #94 on: Fri, 15 November 2013, 12:46:34 »
Thanks for posting pics noisy and hester. Happy to see they arrived safely. Only nubbs' is still in the mail!

I know.  I'm wondering why it's taking so long.  It's said that it's being sorted in L.A. for a while now.

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« Reply #95 on: Fri, 15 November 2013, 12:47:36 »
I know.  I'm wondering why it's taking so long.  It's said that it's being sorted in L.A. for a while now.
Any idea what day I sent it? I don't have records of PMs I've sent.. :'(
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« Reply #96 on: Fri, 15 November 2013, 12:54:43 »
I know.  I'm wondering why it's taking so long.  It's said that it's being sorted in L.A. for a while now.
Any idea what day I sent it? I don't have records of PMs I've sent.. :'(

The tracking info says you sent it on the 5th.  USPS received it in L.A. on the 8th.  I just looked it up on the USPS page again and it looks like it finally arrived at my local post office.  Hopefully I'll get it in the next day or two.  Looking at the tracking info on the USPS page, it looks like it was at the L.A. customs center/sort facility for a week before going on the L.A. sort facility.  Sometimes customs is insane.  At least it's not the three weeks in customs some people regularly get.

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« Reply #97 on: Fri, 15 November 2013, 12:56:37 »
Customs.. :/

Oh well, at least it's at your local PO now.
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Re: [IC] Custom Engraved Brass Keycaps
« Reply #98 on: Fri, 15 November 2013, 14:01:48 »
soon...

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« Reply #99 on: Sat, 16 November 2013, 19:15:16 »
Oh god. I might have to buy these once they're on sale.

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« Reply #100 on: Sat, 16 November 2013, 19:23:00 »
Has the Group buy started? How come people already have caps?

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« Reply #101 on: Sat, 16 November 2013, 19:25:44 »
Has the Group buy started? How come people already have caps?

He had a limited beta test run

Show us your topre stem Photekq!

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« Reply #102 on: Sat, 16 November 2013, 19:30:02 »
Has the Group buy started? How come people already have caps?
It's totally in beta phase at the moment. The caps you have seen are for people who are testing out the design. Not sure if these will ever be readily available or in a GB. We'll see where it goes..
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He had a limited beta test run

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Need some topre keycaps to measure first ;)

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« Reply #103 on: Sun, 17 November 2013, 03:19:06 »
I can send you a topre escape, but I might need it back otherwise I won't have an escape key any more. I think it would be worth it for everyone though.
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« Reply #104 on: Sun, 17 November 2013, 17:41:07 »




It's pretty awesome.  The one thing I noticed though is mine doesn't sit quite square on the stems, it has a minor tilt to it.

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« Reply #105 on: Sun, 17 November 2013, 17:43:04 »
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It's pretty awesome.  The one thing I noticed though is mine doesn't sit quite square on the stems, it has a minor tilt to it.

Beautiful!  :thumb:

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« Reply #106 on: Sun, 17 November 2013, 17:50:19 »
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It's pretty awesome.  The one thing I noticed though is mine doesn't sit quite square on the stems, it has a minor tilt to it.
Firstly, great photos. Secondly, what exactly do you mean by it not sitting square? Do you mean the stem isn't perfectly in the centre, or do you mean the cap is at an angle when it's seated? Either way, that really sucks, and I'm so, so sorry, I should have noticed that when I tested it :'( is there any chance you could provide a photo of it once it's on a keyboard? Does it effect functionality at all, or is it only a small problem?
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« Reply #107 on: Sun, 17 November 2013, 18:06:26 »
You know what, now I'm not sure if it's a little crooked.  On my RK-9000 and QFR Esc key, it is rotated by about 1-3 degrees so it's not square in the cutout for the cap; however, on the function row on the same keyboards, it looks square.

And the cap is still awesome, regardless if my keyboards are the issue or if the cap stem is rotated just a hair.   No need to apologize.  It's just me noticing one tiny thing and not being able to unnotice it.  It's so minor that in normal use, I won't even see it.  I may just have to desolder my Esc keys and swap them out and see if they're the culprit.

Edit:

And here's a crappy cell phone shot so you can see what I mean.



Like I said, I'm not sure if it's my switch or the cap now.  In either case, no big deal.  It causes no issues and I won't notice it in daily use.
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« Reply #108 on: Sun, 17 November 2013, 18:22:06 »
Ah I can see what you mean. I must say that on the original brass caps I found that they sometimes looked rotated, but I could easily correct it by simply moving it around a little. I think the mx stems tend to rotate, but it's obviously far more noticable on a perfectly square keycap.
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« Reply #109 on: Sun, 17 November 2013, 18:28:15 »
I might have to try it in different orientations or swap out the switch then.  It's bizarre that I only notice it on the Esc.  Like I said, it's minor, just noticed it and went OCD overdrive.  When I use it, I won't notice it, especially if it's on a 60%.

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« Reply #110 on: Sun, 17 November 2013, 18:39:57 »
I might have to try it in different orientations or swap out the switch then.  It's bizarre that I only notice it on the Esc.  Like I said, it's minor, just noticed it and went OCD overdrive.  When I use it, I won't notice it, especially if it's on a 60%.
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Re: [IC] Custom Engraved Brass Keycaps
« Reply #111 on: Mon, 18 November 2013, 16:05:30 »
I've finally gotten around to shooting a set of photos properly after the quick teaser shots I posted earlier.  I've got a full album on flickr with shots from the first round and the second round (scroll down about half way for the shots of V2 brass cap), with notable new photos added below.

Version 2!

DSC02425_ by HoffmanMyster, on Flickr

A couple shots showing a comparison between V1 and V2, including how V1 has tarnished and is a bit taller than V2 (also considerably more heavy).

DSC02430_ by HoffmanMyster, on Flickr

DSC02443_ by HoffmanMyster, on Flickr

You can see the height difference better here.

DSC02444_- by HoffmanMyster, on Flickr

A couple shots showing how V2 uses thinner walls and a shallower top, but since the stem cutting is different they end up sitting at a similar height, with V2 slightly shorter.

DSC02432_ by HoffmanMyster, on Flickr

DSC02441_ by HoffmanMyster, on Flickr

These two shots show how both caps look in place of each other.  You can see how V2 is slightly shorter here.

DSC02447_ by HoffmanMyster, on Flickr

DSC02448_ by HoffmanMyster, on Flickr

Brass + Aluminum + Titanium

DSC02450-_ by HoffmanMyster, on Flickr


Quick write-up:
As noted above, V2 is considerably lighter, and a bit shorter.  The decreased weight allows it to be usable as a standard cap with light switches (V1 doesn't "de-click" on MX blues, meaning it doesn't fully return up).  The stem fitting on V2 is also tighter (but not too tight - definitely just a great fit), meaning it doesn't wobble like V1.  The fact that V2 is shorter means it aligns more nicely with the tops of most keycap sets, giving a more uniform look.  This doesn't necessarily affect functionality, but it's a nice adjustment.

Overall, I love the new design.  Great work on these, photekq.   ;D

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Re: [IC] Custom Engraved Brass Keycaps
« Reply #112 on: Mon, 18 November 2013, 16:18:30 »
AWESOME photos hoff! Thanks so much for the quick review + all the comparison photos! :thumb:
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Re: [IC] Custom Engraved Brass Keycaps
« Reply #113 on: Mon, 18 November 2013, 23:18:38 »
Oh jeeze. That V2 writeup by Hoff makes me want these more than ever. Any estimated date before you are taking orders?

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Re: [IC] Custom Engraved Brass Keycaps
« Reply #114 on: Tue, 14 January 2014, 09:35:52 »
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Re: [IC] Custom Engraved Brass Keycaps
« Reply #115 on: Tue, 14 January 2014, 20:36:42 »
Looks like I'm going to have to buy more boards to cater for all these esc keys...

Would love one when you put an actual GB up.
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Re: [IC] Custom Engraved Brass Keycaps
« Reply #116 on: Thu, 16 January 2014, 10:11:51 »
Just a comment from my own experience, you can clean the tarnish with baking soda + water. Just mix a little together, then scrub your cap with a toothbrush, and dry.

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Re: [IC] Custom Engraved Brass Keycaps
« Reply #117 on: Thu, 16 January 2014, 17:59:45 »
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Re: [IC] Custom Engraved Brass Keycaps
« Reply #118 on: Mon, 26 May 2014, 09:25:23 »
Is there a way to have these anodized?

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Re: [IC] Custom Engraved Brass Keycaps
« Reply #119 on: Mon, 26 May 2014, 09:27:47 »
Is there a way to have these anodized?
They're brass, so no. If they were made from aluminium then it would be possible.
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Re: [IC] Custom Engraved Brass Keycaps
« Reply #120 on: Mon, 26 May 2014, 10:34:03 »
I'm now confused, pictured is a brass medal and an anodized brass medal. From what I can ascertain, these types of medals are struck from (usually) 80% copper or above. That may have something to do with these medals being able to be anodized. I was able to look into how these medals are made but no mention of the anodizing process even though there are anodized versions out there.



What can you make of it? As the finishing is the type of key caps I would love to have.

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Re: [IC] Custom Engraved Brass Keycaps
« Reply #121 on: Mon, 26 May 2014, 10:47:43 »
As far as I know brass can not be anodised. Copper can't be anodised, and zinc can only be anodised at very high voltages.

The medal on the left just looks like oxidised brass, and the one on the left looks like newly polished brass.
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Re: [IC] Custom Engraved Brass Keycaps
« Reply #122 on: Mon, 26 May 2014, 11:26:45 »
Hmm... if there was a way to mimic the finish of the "anodized" medal I would be all for it. It would help key resist wear and tear. I'll look more into the finish and see what I can dig up but I'm very certain it would help add to the durability and life expectancy of the key caps, not to mention make it really "pop" with style.

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Re: [IC] Custom Engraved Brass Keycaps
« Reply #123 on: Mon, 26 May 2014, 11:27:53 »
I wasn't clear.. Which one is supposed to be the 'anodised' medal?
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Re: [IC] Custom Engraved Brass Keycaps
« Reply #124 on: Mon, 26 May 2014, 11:33:46 »
I'm interested into getting a Brass keycap.

can it's be DSA profile and can i choose the engraving? also, can it be raised letters like in here?

http://geekhack.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=58344.0;attach=65182;image

I would totally put a $ sign on a dsa keycap, golden-ish brass to use it on the '4' of my numrow. Would be d0p3$w@g.
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Re: [IC] Custom Engraved Brass Keycaps
« Reply #125 on: Mon, 26 May 2014, 11:40:28 »
I wasn't clear.. Which one is supposed to be the 'anodised' medal?

The one on the right

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Re: [IC] Custom Engraved Brass Keycaps
« Reply #126 on: Mon, 26 May 2014, 11:50:12 »
The one on the right
Right, that looks like polished brass. I guess you would want to have it coated with a clear coat or something similar to prevent oxidation.

@Quardah I don't know when/if I will be making any more brass keycaps. Thanks for the interest though.
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