GMK-electronic make cherry keycap ?

[MMB]

What is a CMYK set?  Would that be an entire set?

Cyan, Magenta, Yellow and Black

[DanGWanG]

What is a CMYK set?  Would that be an entire set?

Just like the RGB set, it's CMY+blacK legend.

[TheProfosist]

could we expand the RGB to RGBY?

[Vintage]

Wow .... DY looks amazing.

Wouldn't mind a white on DY Esc keycap.

CMYK might be cool.... but I would have to see it first.

[aggiejy]

Got it.  I suppose these options are good ways to get something started with them, cool. 

The modifier packs are especially attractive as they will complete a set of vintage caps without thinner SP stuff.  

[aggiejy]

CMYK might be cool.... but I would have to see it first.

Yeah, a little too unique for my tastes, but at least it's something different than normal RGB, which I'd be glad never to see again.

[DanGWanG]

The only reason I'm doing an alternative to RGB is because I'm almost positive that other retailers are already doing this.  Just from the samples photo that GMK originally sent to lysol and I, I'm assuming it's for either EK or some other vendors here on GH.  Otherwise, I would have done RGB because I know I can get enough people interested even though it's been beaten with a dead horse.

But as many other people have already said in this thread and told me personally, the retailers are not willing to share their information.  And hey, that's fine with me.  It's going to impact them more than it will impact me, so I stopped caring =)

[jdcarpe]

Meh. I'll get excited when you get a full set going. Or at least moogles/tsangans. People got excited about us finding this manufacturer because they want brand new sets of Dolch, Olivetti, Skidata, and the Cherry classics. Lead time is going to be there no matter what. The sooner we get something going, the sooner we can have it delivered. In the mean time, EK and others are beating us to the punch.

[aggiejy]

... Otherwise, I would have done RGB because I know I can get enough people interested even though it's been beaten with a dead horse.

Though I fail to understand why, I agree with that.  People are crazy about their RGB.

[jdcarpe]

... Otherwise, I would have done RGB because I know I can get enough people interested even though it's been beaten with a dead horse.

Though I fail to understand why, I agree with that.  People are crazy about their RGB.

I'm with you, aggiejy. I just don't get it.

[DanGWanG]

Meh. I'll get excited when you get a full set going. Or at least moogles/tsangans. People got excited about us finding this manufacturer because they want brand new sets of Dolch, Olivetti, Skidata, and the Cherry classics. Lead time is going to be there no matter what. The sooner we get something going, the sooner we can have it delivered. In the mean time, EK and others are beating us to the punch.

The modifier packs are essentially tsangan and moogle kits, minus the spacebar.  Soon is also the key word here.  Because other retailers never shared this information with GH, yeah we're a little late but the whole reason I'm doing this is mostly as a means of educating the greater mass.  I want to know their MOQ, price, etc. so that our own vendors aren't ripping everyone off.

[Vintage]

Yeah Dan, I think that's a good idea. But maybe a set with that sexy purple color.


Maybe Purple Yellow Green?

[fruktstund]

I know I'll be ripped off if EK does a Dolch replica and we don't, just because of their $50 shipping. Maybe that's just me being a tad bit pessimistic.

[emptythecache]

yeah, for me the dolch set is the most enticing thing that could come out of this within the next 6ish months. In the mean time though, I'm all for a CMYK set, and I'll probably grab some other **** just to support the cause.

[aggiejy]

Meh. I'll get excited when you get a full set going. Or at least moogles/tsangans. People got excited about us finding this manufacturer because they want brand new sets of Dolch, Olivetti, Skidata, and the Cherry classics. Lead time is going to be there no matter what. The sooner we get something going, the sooner we can have it delivered. In the mean time, EK and others are beating us to the punch.

That was my initial reaction as well.  Would much rather start with a full set, but I guess I see how testing the waters could be good.  But to your "at least moogles/tsangans" thing, I think the "Modifer packs in various colors, including ISO enter and short R.Shift" option would cover the moogle part of that at least.  Unless I misunderstand?  Regardless, of the 4 things, that's the only one I'd be interesting in ordering.  But I'm sure there will be plenty of orders to make a go of it.  But, a full set of a safe color would go bonkers I think... hopefully someone else does this.

[baldgye]

ISO mod set would be amazing becasue its really not that easy to get ISO DS cherry style mods...

[DanGWanG]

... Otherwise, I would have done RGB because I know I can get enough people interested even though it's been beaten with a dead horse.

Though I fail to understand why, I agree with that.  People are crazy about their RGB.

I'm with you, aggiejy. I just don't get it.

Part of the reason is that it's Cherry profile and keycaps.  But everyone knows that.  It's also some collector's dream to own them in doubleshot, purely for collections sake.  As it stands today, the DS Cherry RGB sets are the rarer than the dyesub ones, despite functionality of poorer quality plastic (ABS vs PBT).  I just want some damn RGB's that match my Cherry profile.  Even though the SP ones, quality wise, are really nice....the profile is killing me man.

[boost]

I know I'll be ripped off if EK does a Dolch replica and we don't, just because of their $50 shipping. Maybe that's just me being a tad bit pessimistic.

It wouldn't be a replica set ^_^

[Alessandro]

This is awesome news! Will be keeping my eye on the GB forum.

How long until we all start selling our Moogle kits?

[aggiejy]

...I want to know their MOQ, price, etc. so that our own vendors aren't ripping everyone off.

I agree with this, but you should really add a full set to the quote regardless of if you plan to do it.  Getting pricing only for the things you listed don't help much when planning for a full set, or keeping retailers honest.

[boost]

This is awesome news! Will be keeping my eye on the GB forum.

How long until we all start selling our Moogle kits?

I don't think moogle kits are part of the first round.IIRC

[DanGWanG]

Meh. I'll get excited when you get a full set going. Or at least moogles/tsangans. People got excited about us finding this manufacturer because they want brand new sets of Dolch, Olivetti, Skidata, and the Cherry classics. Lead time is going to be there no matter what. The sooner we get something going, the sooner we can have it delivered. In the mean time, EK and others are beating us to the punch.

That was my initial reaction as well.  Would much rather start with a full set, but I guess I see how testing the waters could be good.  But to your "at least moogles/tsangans" thing, I think the "Modifer packs in various colors, including ISO enter and short R.Shift" option would cover the moogle part of that at least.  Unless I misunderstand?  Regardless, of the 4 things, that's the only one I'd be interesting in ordering.  But I'm sure there will be plenty of orders to make a go of it.  But, a full set of a safe color would go bonkers I think... hopefully someone else does this.

Trust me, I would have loved to do a Dolch set right off the bat.  There's existing keyboards that could easily be used as a means of mockups and color matching would just make things relatively easy, I think.

But as I've mentioned a bunch of times already, GMK just doesn't have the time slots to do one in the near future.  After we've submitted payment for this GB, lysol and I will once again be polling for full set requirements.

[DanGWanG]

...I want to know their MOQ, price, etc. so that our own vendors aren't ripping everyone off.

I agree with this, but you should really add a full set to the quote regardless of if you plan to do it.  Getting pricing only for the things you listed don't help much when planning for a full set, or keeping retailers honest.

My sense from GMK is that they are way to busy to be playing around with numbers right now and they have notified us that they don't have the capacity in the short term to do this.  That's why I've held off on asking for the time being (I'm trying to keep things as simple as possible and working within their limitations out of respect).  I will get a quote for this in the next few weeks though, so there shouldn't be any worry there yet.

[Alessandro]

This is awesome news! Will be keeping my eye on the GB forum.

How long until we all start selling our Moogle kits?

I don't think moogle kits are part of the first round.IIRC

I think the shortlist on the previous page included modifier packs. We'll see.

[aggiejy]

Makes sense, thanks!  I hope you have thick skin... everyone's hopes pinned on you here hence the grilling. ;-)

Dan, you're the man! 

[DanGWanG]

I couldn't do this without lysol as the Hand.  His technical expertise is what is making this process go as smoothly as it is so far.  I think with our personalities and goal oriented mind set, the people of GH will appreciate what we are trying to do for them.  I know people will be upset that they can't get what they're looking for from this first run, but I'm also hoping that people will understand and appreciate the information we're trying to gather.  It is by no means an offensive tactic to destroy retailers, but given how a lot of things have been going lately, I just want to have the information available for everyone to judge themselves.

[IvanIvanovich]

To make things clear...
Mod pack will have:
key | size | qty
tab 1.5 qty 1
caps lock stepped 1.75 qty 1
caps lock full touch 1.75 qty 1
shift 1.25 qty 1
shift 1.75 qty 1
shift 2.25 qty 1
shift 2.75 qty 1
ctrl 1.25 qty 2
ctrl 1.5 qty 2
alt 1.25 qty 2
alt 1.5 qty 2
win 1.25 qty 2
win 1x qty 2
menu 1.25 qty 1
menu 1x qty 1
ANSI enter 2.25 qty 1
ISO enter qty 1
backspace 2x qty 1

aditionally I was thinking about maybe adding Fn key in for us 60%ers if there is not objection.
CMYK set will have all the same sizes for the shift, ctrl and alt keys listed above, but only those keys.
When it comes to full set time, we are planning to do it BIG and international, but one thing at a time.

[Alessandro]

Brilliant! We're all very thankful for both your efforts!

[absyrd]

Very comprehensive pack. The less confusion between individual orders, the better. People that don't need certain keys can trade or sell extras after-the-fact.

[The_Beast]

Double shot windows and menu or pad printed?

[baldgye]

Double shot windows and menu or pad printed?

please DS

[Alessandro]

Double shot windows and menu or pad printed?

Pretty sure they'll be DS.

[DanGWanG]

Double shot windows and menu or pad printed?

They certainly have the capability to DS, and that's what was requested.  So, first ever items? =)  I certainly hope so!

[jdcarpe]

And please add windowed Caps Lock, Scroll Lock, and Num Lock.

I can dream, right?

[The_Beast]

Double shot windows and menu or pad printed?

They certainly have the capability to DS, and that's what was requested.  So, first ever items? =)

Ok, wasn't sure b/c Cherry didn't have the DS legends for those keys as far as I remember so having those DS is another insta-buy for me

[Alessandro]

If we're doing DS winkeys I want the classic logo!

[baldgye]

If we're doing DS winkeys I want the classic logo!

agreed

[OrangeJewce]

If we're doing DS winkeys I want the classic logo!

I want the win8 logo Q_Q

Cheers,

[IvanIvanovich]

I hate 9x, and this is the 21st century so I think we should keep in the now and go with 8 style Windows logo, but that is only my opinion.
Instead of windowed keys, why not do clear first shot of the legend, its way sexier. But I think that should be seperate. We may look into those options at another time.

[BimboBB]

Why no spacebars? 

[Alessandro]

Damn, I luvs me nostalgia.

I guess we could look in to it as another option later on, like the windowed stuff?

[TheProfosist]

To make things clear...
Mod pack will have:
key | size | qty
tab 1.5 qty 1
caps lock stepped 1.75 qty 1
caps lock full touch 1.75 qty 1
shift 1.25 qty 1
shift 1.75 qty 1
shift 2.25 qty 1
shift 2.75 qty 1
ctrl 1.25 qty 2
ctrl 1.5 qty 2
alt 1.25 qty 2
alt 1.5 qty 2
win 1.25 qty 2
win 1x qty 2
menu 1.25 qty 1
menu 1x qty 1
ANSI enter 2.25 qty 1
ISO enter qty 1
backspace 2x qty 1

aditionally I was thinking about maybe adding Fn key in for us 60%ers if there is not objection.
CMYK set will have all the same sizes for the shift, ctrl and alt keys listed above, but only those keys.
When it comes to full set time, we are planning to do it BIG and international, but one thing at a time.

sounds great but add spacebars plz

[DanGWanG]

Thank you all for the suggestions so far, but please bear in mind that we are doing our best to keep everything very basic for this first run.  We're not going to be able to fulfill everyone's dream here but rather offer something comprehensive that everyone will hopefully enjoy.

[Batmann]

You seem to be on top of things here
I'm in whatever the order will be (even though I have no set that would match CMYK!)

[IvanIvanovich]

CMYK will match black, white or grey just fine ;p it's not as if it's any different in that matter than RGB.
Spacebar is being looked into. If we offer it, it will just be spacebar. Not include in anything and probably just the 3 colors beige, black, Dolch grey.

[SmallFry]

The only reason I'm doing an alternative to RGB is because I'm almost positive that other retailers are already doing this.  Just from the samples photo that GMK originally sent to lysol and I, I'm assuming it's for either EK or some other vendors here on GH.  Otherwise, I would have done RGB because I know I can get enough people interested even though it's been beaten with a dead horse.

But as many other people have already said in this thread and told me personally, the retailers are not willing to share their information.  And hey, that's fine with me.  It's going to impact them more than it will impact me, so I stopped caring =)

Good to hear!

[BimboBB]

Spacebar is being looked into. If we offer it, it will just be spacebar. Not include in anything and probably just the 3 colors beige, black, Dolch grey.

That sounds good.

Maybe you should think also about some "skidata" replacement (fullfill) keys.    but that would include a 2.0 "0" key for the numlock pad. for TKL boards, it would be enough to add that color to the mod pack.

[Acetrak]

Yeah I don't think I've seen many RGB sets go on anything other than white on black or black on white Cherry sets

Question, I know that we are trying to make this first buy as quick and easy for GMK (so we start with a good relationship). With that said, will this be a cross forum GB? Or are we not doing that until we do future projects?

[GMC]

To make things clear...
Mod pack will have:
key | size | qty
tab 1.5 qty 1
caps lock stepped 1.75 qty 1
caps lock full touch 1.75 qty 1
shift 1.25 qty 1
shift 1.75 qty 1
shift 2.25 qty 1
shift 2.75 qty 1
ctrl 1.25 qty 2
ctrl 1.5 qty 2
alt 1.25 qty 2
alt 1.5 qty 2
win 1.25 qty 2
win 1x qty 2
menu 1.25 qty 1
menu 1x qty 1
ANSI enter 2.25 qty 1
ISO enter qty 1
backspace 2x qty 1

aditionally I was thinking about maybe adding Fn key in for us 60%ers if there is not objection.
CMYK set will have all the same sizes for the shift, ctrl and alt keys listed above, but only those keys.
When it comes to full set time, we are planning to do it BIG and international, but one thing at a time.

Add the fn key. Otherwise brilliant

[IvanIvanovich]

Same items will be offered here, DT, KBD, and anywhere else that wants to be in on it. We're global.