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Offline Pensa73

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[IC] Muon - Wireless Numpad - Vendor & Prototype update
« on: Wed, 25 May 2022, 19:15:34 »


Hello, Geekhack! This is the Muon, a simple, hotswap, multi-layout wireless numpad made in collaboration with Quark.Works.
We are also proud to announce that we will now work with 19.99 Studio!





Specs

  • PCB: QS-10 Hotswap multi-layout PCB by Quark.Works, Bluetooth with nRF52840 powered by ZMK. And Unified Daughterboard
  • Battery: Slot for a 1000 mAh battery (up to 6 months of use according to ZMK’s profiler!)
  • Mount: Top Mount
  • Materials: 6063 Aluminum (Top, Bottom, Plate) and Brass (Badge)
  • Angle: 8 degrees









Kit Includes

  • Top case
  • Bottom case
  • Brass badge
  • Aluminum plate
  • QS-10 Bluetooth PCB
  • Unified Daughterboard
  • Rubber feet
  • Carrying case
  • All necessary hardware for assembly







GB Details

The Moun will be sold on our store 1999.design(soon). It will be an unlimited GB with a softcap. Expected to run on Q1-Q2 2023.

Price is to be defined as we are finalizing the cost details: MOQ, cost of carrying cases, and shipping.

The colors, for now, are black, white and silver and we'll be adding more based on the IC results (please fill out the form).





Gallery
First prototype

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First (silver) second (white) and final (black) prototypes!





All of them are working prototypes, but each of them have slight differences as the model was improved and issues were fixed.

List of changes
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  • All tolerances were adjusted from the first prototype
  • A couple of cuts were added on the top case to easily align the plate
  • The badge now sits flush after tolerances were fixed and tightened
  • The bottom was thickened to allow us to make a deeper cutout for the battery and its connector
  • Interferences with hotswap sockets were fixed



The main change that needed to be made, and the most noticeable one, was the increase of area on the bottom.
This change was made because the first two prototypes would wobble a little if pressed hard enough on the top corners.




Next on the list:
  • Define all colors that will be offered
  • Streamer Build
  • Pricing
  • Launch online store
  • Group Buy date



Q&A

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Why is there a 2u badge on something this small? Why not a full row or just discard it?
Sadly, we ran out of space because of the bluetooth module! So the solution we came up with was adding a badge.

Does it have VIA/VIAL
No. ZMK doesn’t have a live remapper, so you’d have to recompile the firmware to make changes. If you’d wish to have a wired PCB version with VIA/VIAL compatibility, please say so in the IC Form.

How long does the battery last?
According to the profiler we can expect 6 (±2) months of battery life.

How is reception in the aluminum case?
After many months of testing, we concluded that the PC badge won't be needed, we had an amazing reception while keeping the antenna at about 10-30 inches apart from the Muon.

Where/When/How can I buy it?
Our site, 1999.Design will be launched when we approach the GB. More details will be available as we approach the date!

What colors are going to be available?
We only have the black/silver and silver/black combo in mind, but we'll obviously do more colors! Please help us decide by filling the IC form!

Can I change the badge? Will custom ones be available later?
We’d love to have some collaborations and some community-voted designs! More details to come but for now, please help us decide by filling the IC form.




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Follow the project and come to get a sneak peek at everything we'll be working on!





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« Last Edit: Sun, 04 December 2022, 15:42:40 by Pensa73 »

Offline Zetina

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Re: [IC] Muon - Wireless Numpad
« Reply #1 on: Wed, 25 May 2022, 19:17:08 »
reversed

Also please consider doing a Gunmetal or denim version  :thumb:
« Last Edit: Wed, 25 May 2022, 19:23:31 by Zetina »

Offline brunosan_.

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Re: [IC] Muon - Wireless Numpad
« Reply #2 on: Wed, 25 May 2022, 19:18:12 »
Awesome pictures man!
Love the lip detail.
Looking forward to it  :thumb:

Offline novelflyer

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Re: [IC] Muon - Wireless Numpad
« Reply #3 on: Wed, 25 May 2022, 19:35:37 »
This looks nice, I'd love it in white top black bottom  :thumb:

Offline quarkworks

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Re: [IC] Muon - Wireless Numpad
« Reply #4 on: Wed, 25 May 2022, 20:40:42 »
heh

Offline Uki

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Re: [IC] Muon - Wireless Numpad
« Reply #5 on: Fri, 27 May 2022, 16:21:37 »
I'm definitely interested

Offline Curious Yellow

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Re: [IC] Muon - Wireless Numpad
« Reply #6 on: Fri, 27 May 2022, 17:02:39 »
Psyched for this. Been waiting for a premium but not atrociously priced wireless numpad for a while. Hoping this is it!

Offline caghuama

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Re: [IC] Muon - Wireless Numpad
« Reply #7 on: Tue, 31 May 2022, 18:23:45 »
Mr Pensa, this looks amazing, can't wait for it and ShianaSSK!

Offline HungHingDaiLo

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Re: [IC] Muon - Wireless Numpad
« Reply #8 on: Tue, 31 May 2022, 22:41:06 »
IC form filled. GLWIC!

Offline Uki

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Re: [IC] Muon - Wireless Numpad
« Reply #9 on: Tue, 16 August 2022, 10:36:30 »
Any update?

Offline Pensa73

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Re: [IC] Muon - Wireless Numpad
« Reply #10 on: Thu, 18 August 2022, 11:27:50 »
Any update?
We have a second prototype and a third one on the way! We'll do a full update in about a month

Offline Pensa73

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Re: [IC] Muon - Wireless Numpad - Vendor & Prototype update
« Reply #11 on: Sun, 04 December 2022, 17:19:11 »
Important update!

Please come join the discord server to follow every little detail about this project and more!


Offline MrZeroDSK

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Re: [IC] Muon - Wireless Numpad - Vendor & Prototype update
« Reply #12 on: Sun, 04 December 2022, 18:44:09 »
Would love if you could add a reversed layout for left handed use.
Badge looks nice and would love if we could make custom ones.

Offline Pensa73

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Re: [IC] Muon - Wireless Numpad - Vendor & Prototype update
« Reply #13 on: Wed, 07 December 2022, 12:47:37 »
Would love if you could add a reversed layout for left handed use.
Badge looks nice and would love if we could make custom ones.

We are looking into the possibility, we haven't gotten as many requests

Offline tulaine

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Re: [IC] Muon - Wireless Numpad - Vendor & Prototype update
« Reply #14 on: Wed, 07 December 2022, 15:59:45 »
Really interested, any idea for the price?

Offline alper_maestro

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Re: [IC] Muon - Wireless Numpad - Vendor & Prototype update
« Reply #15 on: Thu, 08 December 2022, 05:26:11 »
Nice. Can we expect soon more updates about this project and more details about pricing?

Offline Uki

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Re: [IC] Muon - Wireless Numpad - Vendor & Prototype update
« Reply #16 on: Sun, 18 December 2022, 08:33:13 »
project dead? :c

Offline Pensa73

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Re: [IC] Muon - Wireless Numpad - Vendor & Prototype update
« Reply #17 on: Mon, 19 December 2022, 13:49:30 »
project dead? :c

Not dead at all! We are working on the carrying case at the moment. I know people want an estimated price but it will obviously be significantly influenced by the MOQ which is something we have to establish based on this latest update.

Offline Ikeygai Designs

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Re: [IC] Muon - Wireless Numpad - Vendor & Prototype update
« Reply #18 on: Mon, 19 December 2022, 17:54:14 »
sexy numpad. love that badge and lip design.

Offline Its Salty

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Re: [IC] Muon - Wireless Numpad - Vendor & Prototype update
« Reply #19 on: Mon, 19 December 2022, 22:44:47 »
I love the design and concept. would love to use it as a little macro pad that I can turn on and off when I need

but I cant help but worry about how signal will be since it looks like an all alu case and BT and Alu don't get along

how did you either fix or get around that issue?

Offline Pensa73

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Re: [IC] Muon - Wireless Numpad - Vendor & Prototype update
« Reply #20 on: Thu, 22 December 2022, 20:42:09 »
I love the design and concept. would love to use it as a little macro pad that I can turn on and off when I need

but I cant help but worry about how signal will be since it looks like an all alu case and BT and Alu don't get along

how did you either fix or get around that issue?

We were planning on using a PC badge to improve the signal, but after many months of using it on different devices with the brass badge, we concluded that it wouldn't be necessary.
If you refer to the Q&A, we mentioned that the best range for its usage is about 10-30 inches apart from the antenna.

Offline Uki

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Re: [IC] Muon - Wireless Numpad - Vendor & Prototype update
« Reply #21 on: Tue, 17 January 2023, 10:22:47 »
project dead? :c

Not dead at all! We are working on the carrying case at the moment. I know people want an estimated price but it will obviously be significantly influenced by the MOQ which is something we have to establish based on this latest update.
Gladd to hear that it's not dead. If I may be honest I don't think every single keyboard needs carrying case. That became a standard, almost every keboard comes with case nowadays. But it makes no sense to me. I know they are nice but to most of us are unnecesery they only keep piling on a shelf. Even if someone carries keyboard around (I still don't believe someone actually does this but ok let's assume someone does), only 1, maybe 2 at most are necesery. I'd prefer keyboard with no case and slightly lower price. This might be unpopular opinion but yeah stop this carrying case maddness. Would you consider carrying case as an extra? I'd be gladd