[IC] GMK Carbon

[hkf]

2 separate drops? Doesn't that mean paying double shipping?

My thoughts. It's logical if you purchase both base kit and novelties you have to pay shipping once. I'll speak to Massdrop about that. I am sure we'll find a solution for this.

AFAIK GMK Royal Alpha's mod kits were ran like separate drops in terms of MOQ but were baked into one 'drop' per se, so you would be dinged only once for shipping.

[johuu]

2 separate drops? Doesn't that mean paying double shipping?

My thoughts. It's logical if you purchase both base kit and novelties you have to pay shipping once. I'll speak to Massdrop about that. I am sure we'll find a solution for this.

Does this mean that EU purchaser need to pay customs even when they are produced in Germany?

[Rafa_n]

2 separate drops? Doesn't that mean paying double shipping?

My thoughts. It's logical if you purchase both base kit and novelties you have to pay shipping once. I'll speak to Massdrop about that. I am sure we'll find a solution for this.

Does this mean that EU purchaser need to pay customs even when they are produced in Germany?

yes, I think so

[stoic-lemon]

Definitely in for the base kit. I just sold my Carbon SA sets. I went all out on those, but with this coming, I didn't feel the need to hold onto them.

[s3vv4]

2 separate drops? Doesn't that mean paying double shipping?

My thoughts. It's logical if you purchase both base kit and novelties you have to pay shipping once. I'll speak to Massdrop about that. I am sure we'll find a solution for this.

Does this mean that EU purchaser need to pay customs even when they are produced in Germany?

That has always been the case, if GMK sold inside Germany directly the 19% MwSt. would just be included, so it doesn't really matter.
Except for shipping and if you exceed 150 euro, which would add 2% I think.

[Zorox]

As a Carbon SA owner and a fan of GMK too, imho this set will be awesome. I have OG beige alphas, I have OG Skidata and Skidata+ Orange mods to make this color layout. But they will not make a Carbon set. It was just a puzzle of a proud GMK fan. It lacks the effort to make a complete set, and look at those adorable novelties!!!! It deserves its own GB ofc.

P/S: will this drop be separated like the GMK Royal: Alphas + mods + novelties or it will be devided only to base set + novelties?

[Diokhan]

2 separate drops? Doesn't that mean paying double shipping?

My thoughts. It's logical if you purchase both base kit and novelties you have to pay shipping once. I'll speak to Massdrop about that. I am sure we'll find a solution for this.

Does this mean that EU purchaser need to pay customs even when they are produced in Germany?

That has always been the case, if GMK sold inside Germany directly the 19% MwSt. would just be included, so it doesn't really matter.
Except for shipping and if you exceed 150 euro, which would add 2% I think.

150 euro order will become 200 after tax + handling and everything..

[T0mb3ry]

Sorry for no updates as i have become Vater lately Got some stress right now  )

GMK received Carbon SA keys from me and they've send them to their plastic supplier for color matching. As soon as they get the first probes with new plastic they'll send those probes also to me for approval. I will check those probes also for lightbleeding. I hope we'll make it in the first try. So there is still some work to do.

Since i got my Skidata+ (thanks again to Karura for organizing this GB) i'd like to share with you some fotos with color comparisson between Skiadata+ and Carbon.


As you can see, there are shade diffrences. Skidata+ (new V2 color) has a very well balanced orange, where Carbon orange is more darker shade. Also the gray colors deffers too. Carbon grey is lighter than Skidata+. However keep in mind there to many factors like Camera, Monitor etc. which makes it impossible to deliver a color correct picture to you. You can compare them properly first if you see those in person. Also you can make only a subjective opinion, since every person sees the things differently and has its own taste for things.

By the way i also got new renders from Christoph for approval. I have checked them so far and there is nothing missing. Keep in mind the colors in renders are off from Carbon real colors, but its enough to provide you the otherview.
GMK Carbon base kit

Novelties (note the lambda )

looking forward to this.
any price drop if the base kit reach 250 even 500?

I cant promise any price drops right now because its up to massdrop. I think probably there will be a pricedrop at 500 moq, but as i said i do not promise this. Take it as rumor.

Does this mean that EU purchaser need to pay customs even when they are produced in Germany?

Its sounds quite weird but it is so. The vendor is US based so its shipped first to US and then back to europe. Hope GMK can open someday their own store for us europeans.

[Data]

OK, I didn't know GMK could do custom legends like that.  Is that a new feature?

[The AlbinoDino]

Very cool keycaps but damn the price of custom stuff

Sorry if this was already answered but why no original carbon novelty set?

[T0mb3ry]

OK, I didn't know GMK could do custom legends like that.  Is that a new feature?

Oh its quite a while since GMK offers custom legends. I think Valentine keyset has offered first custom legend (heart). I got a dream making Yuri with doubleshot cyrillics manufactured by GMK, but with an approximate cost of 250~300$ per custom legend i can keep just dreaming. Now you can count how much new custom legends would cost for GMK Carbon. And still the approximate price will be 70~90$. Quite high but there is a reason for that price tag.

Sorry if this was already answered but why no original carbon novelty set?

Some people do not like the benzene with two atomic bounds. The Carbon periodic table sign does match only centered alignment and thats not the case here. However as you can see there is still the graphene enter included. The warning signs bring more variety and you can put on number or faunction row. With inverted warning sings it makes even more sense. Overall these Novelties are the better solution for delivering Carbon flair. For some people its the Novelties who makes Carbon for them. Hope you understand my decisions.

[Anakey]

Sorry if this was already answered but why no original carbon novelty set?

Some people do not like the benzene with two atomic bounds. The Carbon periodic table sign does match only centered alignment and thats not the case here. However as you can see there is still the graphene enter included. The warning signs bring more variety and you can put on number or faunction row. With inverted warning sings it makes even more sense. Overall these Novelties are the better solution for delivering Carbon flair. For some people its the Novelties who makes Carbon for them. Hope you understand my decisions.

Will the novelty kit from the Carbon SA still retain the cyclohexane keys from the first round? Or will it be just the warning signs kit like with the GMK? If it is going to be changed then looks like i will need to find the old style ones from somewhare.

[MOZ]

Just want to add that although the keycaps are produced in Germany, GMK doesn't charge VAT when shipping to US; if they were sold in EU, then VAT would be applied, which I think is around  20%.

[T0mb3ry]

Will the novelty kit from the Carbon SA still retain the cyclohexane keys from the first round? Or will it be just the warning signs kit like with the GMK? If it is going to be changed then looks like i will need to find the old style ones from somewhare.

Next Carbon SA round will retain cyclohexane key. It's just for GMK Carbon i had to exclude it, because it would also require several new molds (1u, 1.25u and 1.5u).

[derpingit]

do we have an ETA yet?

[T0mb3ry]

do we have an ETA yet?

If everything goes well, the drop for GMK Carbon will start the upcoming monday.

[loud_asian]

do we have an ETA yet?

If everything goes well, the drop for GMK Carbon will start the upcoming monday.

neat

[Zorox]

Just want to add that although the keycaps are produced in Germany, GMK doesn't charge VAT when shipping to US; if they were sold in EU, then VAT would be applied, which I think is around  20%.

If the order costs more than 150€ we have to pay the 19% VAT + 17,5% Import tax, which is a pain in the a$$ And when GMK ships the order to US, the vendor have to pay VAT+Import tax at US which is not reclaimable when they ship single orders out of US again (As I assume the vendor wouldnt reclaim for every single private shipping). Those costs applied directly on international order. That's why it would be nice if GMK could split shipping to a proxy in German (cost about 20€ for a whole bunch of order) so that all European buyers wont have to pay taxes twice

[iamtootallforthis]

Just want to add that although the keycaps are produced in Germany, GMK doesn't charge VAT when shipping to US; if they were sold in EU, then VAT would be applied, which I think is around  20%.

If the order costs more than 150€ we have to pay the 19% VAT + 17,5% Import tax, which is a pain in the a$$ And when GMK ships the order to US, the vendor have to pay VAT+Import tax at US which is not reclaimable when they ship single orders out of US again (As I assume the vendor wouldnt reclaim for every single private shipping). Those costs applied directly on international order. That's why it would be nice if GMK could split shipping to a proxy in German (cost about 20€ for a whole bunch of order) so that all European buyers wont have to pay taxes twice

Massdrop would have to have a facility in Germany to have  that happen and as of now their closest facility is in NJ, USA.

[T0mb3ry]

If the order costs more than 150€ we have to pay the 19% VAT + 17,5% Import tax, which is a pain in the a$$ And when GMK ships the order to US, the vendor have to pay VAT+Import tax at US which is not reclaimable when they ship single orders out of US again (As I assume the vendor wouldnt reclaim for every single private shipping). Those costs applied directly on international order. That's why it would be nice if GMK could split shipping to a proxy in German (cost about 20€ for a whole bunch of order) so that all European buyers wont have to pay taxes twice

Probably base kit costs far less than 150 euros (for GMK standards). Same for the novelties. I cant tell more right now, so wait until drops start and i hope you will be surprized in a good way.

[Zorox]

Just want to add that although the keycaps are produced in Germany, GMK doesn't charge VAT when shipping to US; if they were sold in EU, then VAT would be applied, which I think is around  20%.

If the order costs more than 150€ we have to pay the 19% VAT + 17,5% Import tax, which is a pain in the a$$ And when GMK ships the order to US, the vendor have to pay VAT+Import tax at US which is not reclaimable when they ship single orders out of US again (As I assume the vendor wouldnt reclaim for every single private shipping). Those costs applied directly on international order. That's why it would be nice if GMK could split shipping to a proxy in German (cost about 20€ for a whole bunch of order) so that all European buyers wont have to pay taxes twice

Massdrop would have to have a facility in Germany to have  that happen and as of now their closest facility is in NJ, USA.

I received all my MD orders from their Germany-located facility (the address was shown on the package), and all the taxes are still applied.

If the order costs more than 150€ we have to pay the 19% VAT + 17,5% Import tax, which is a pain in the a$$ And when GMK ships the order to US, the vendor have to pay VAT+Import tax at US which is not reclaimable when they ship single orders out of US again (As I assume the vendor wouldnt reclaim for every single private shipping). Those costs applied directly on international order. That's why it would be nice if GMK could split shipping to a proxy in German (cost about 20€ for a whole bunch of order) so that all European buyers wont have to pay taxes twice

Probably base kit costs far less than 150 euros (for GMK standards). Same for the novelties. I cant tell more right now, so wait until drops start and i hope you will be surprized in a good way.

Yeah I hope that the price would be a very nice suprise  

[alveeno]

Is there any way you could get the icon mods? I'd be all over those.

[kkwapnioski]

If the order costs more than 150€ we have to pay the 19% VAT + 17,5% Import tax, which is a pain in the a$$ And when GMK ships the order to US, the vendor have to pay VAT+Import tax at US which is not reclaimable when they ship single orders out of US again (As I assume the vendor wouldnt reclaim for every single private shipping). Those costs applied directly on international order. That's why it would be nice if GMK could split shipping to a proxy in German (cost about 20€ for a whole bunch of order) so that all European buyers wont have to pay taxes twice

Probably base kit costs far less than 150 euros (for GMK standards). Same for the novelties. I cant tell more right now, so wait until drops start and i hope you will be surprized in a good way.

Hopefully this means I can buy 3 sets instead of 2? My wallet is prepared...

[T0mb3ry]

Is there any way you could get the icon mods? I'd be all over those.

Only Icon mods is not possible. Keep in mind you will not be able to mix it with skidata since the color shades are different. Also Carbon has all 3 custom colors, which means there is no other gmk set with the same colors for mixing. However you can always mix alphas or modifiers completely.

If the order costs more than 150€ we have to pay the 19% VAT + 17,5% Import tax, which is a pain in the a$$ And when GMK ships the order to US, the vendor have to pay VAT+Import tax at US which is not reclaimable when they ship single orders out of US again (As I assume the vendor wouldnt reclaim for every single private shipping). Those costs applied directly on international order. That's why it would be nice if GMK could split shipping to a proxy in German (cost about 20€ for a whole bunch of order) so that all European buyers wont have to pay taxes twice

Probably base kit costs far less than 150 euros (for GMK standards). Same for the novelties. I cant tell more right now, so wait until drops start and i hope you will be surprized in a good way.

Hopefully this means I can buy 3 sets instead of 2? My wallet is prepared...

Keep in mind i have nothing promised so far. I saw only the previews. The cost may change. So i hope they stay as i have seen them. If they stay, then with all the extras, the custom colors and new custom legends this is going to be very affordable keyset.

[Rafa_n]

TODAY?

[codywanks]

TODAY?

https://www.massdrop.com/buy/gmk-carbon-custom-keycap-set?mode=guest_open

https://www.massdrop.com/buy/gmk-carbon-novelty-keycap-set?mode=guest_open

[ideus]

Very good pricing considering that is has custom colors. Good job.

[audax989]

TODAY?

https://www.massdrop.com/buy/gmk-carbon-custom-keycap-set?mode=guest_open

https://www.massdrop.com/buy/gmk-carbon-novelty-keycap-set?mode=guest_open

It's here!

[rioc]

woop woop, so on it been waiting all day for it to finally appear

[inosint]

At last,  the hype is real!
Thanks for getting this together Tomb3ry

[tauhudame]

Why 2 set have to split to separate package? We have to x2 shipping.

[Incredigasmic]

If the alphas were beige, it would be the closest thing you could get to an actual render

GMK SkiMonkey+

[Zorox]

Thank you for getting this happened. But it could be great if they split alphas and mods, and can get novelties into one drop with the sets T.T

[roostrc0gburn]

Why 2 set have to split to separate package? We have to x2 shipping.

yeah, why two drops and not add-ons with their own MOQs?

[user 18]

mockups and render do not match -- not only in terms of colour, but legends as well. I assume the mockup is the accurate one?

[T0mb3ry]

Here we go!

mockups and render do not match -- not only in terms of colour, but legends as well. I assume the mockup is the accurate one?

Exactly. The mockup is the correct one. The renders were done before. This is why you see windows keys in renders and Code keys in Mockup.

Why 2 set have to split to separate package? We have to x2 shipping.

yeah, why two drops and not add-ons with their own MOQs?

Because Massdrops system does not support several moq in one drop. Our main goal is the base kit. The novelties are just nice to have. At beginning i was against Novelties but with this pricing we give them a chance. If Novelties do not hit their moq they will not hit, just like that. Merging two drops would be far more complicated. Anyway i will talk to Yanbo regarding shipping cost, hope he gives an insightful explanation for it or a solution. Keep in mind things like costs and shipping are really not up to me.

[Malenky]

I think splitting the novelties into a separate buy is great. I wouldn't have a whole row of random symbols, it completely ruins the look of this set, and having them separately means I don't have to pay more for keys I don't want.

[Anakey]

I will just be waiting a year or possibly longer with the 3500+ others on MD who have requested the SA profile. Its a shame that SP is limited in their workload that means only a limited number of SA sets can be run during the year

[ideus]

I will just be waiting a year or possibly longer with the 3500+ others on MD who have requested the SA profile. Its a shame that SP is limited in their workload that means only a limited number of SA sets can be run during the year

I really cannot see how this remark is relevant for this group buy.

[T0mb3ry]

Got a reply from Yanbo. The shipping are calculated by the weight and only by the weight. So if they combine shipping costs it would change nothing... I hope this gives you insightfull explanation.

I will just be waiting a year or possibly longer with the 3500+ others on MD who have requested the SA profile. Its a shame that SP is limited in their workload that means only a limited number of SA sets can be run during the year

Hey i would love to run another Carbon SA drop this year. However there are also other Designers with awesome designs in the SA pipeline. Also making Carbon in Cherry profile gives a room to breathe for Signature Plastics and last but not least its an opportunity for people who like Carbon but not SA profile. There are things which are just not up to me to decide... Saying this Carbon SA will probably happen next Year maybe even later. I dont know. Keep in mind there is also Yuri which i want to make real.

[tauhudame]

Why 2 set have to split to separate package? We have to x2 shipping.

yeah, why two drops and not add-ons with their own MOQs?

Because Massdrops system does not support several moq in one drop. Our main goal is the base kit. The novelties are just nice to have. At beginning i was against Novelties but with this pricing we give them a chance. If Novelties do not hit their moq they will not hit, just like that. Merging two drops would be far more complicated. Anyway i will talk to Yanbo regarding shipping cost, hope he gives an insightful explanation for it or a solution. Keep in mind things like costs and shipping are really not up to me.

Just wonder and dont understand for issue in case 2 drops merging together, many set with many kits included have been merged or combined like that what still can have separate kit with MOQ/each require also. It will be easy for us when 2 drops can merge what we can manage/keep tracking the shipping also.  )

Got a reply from Yanbo. The shipping are calculated by the weight and only by the weight. So if they combine shipping costs it would change nothing... I hope this gives you insightfull explanation.

Yes, thanks for your helping & trying 

[kenmai9]

committed

[Vadurr]

Joined! First GMK set here I come!

[T0mb3ry]

We did it! Over 250 sets. Thanks everyone.

Thats pretty good for a redundant keyset  )

[nugglets]

Was it ever decided if this was going to use the custom colors or not?

[o3okevin]

We did it! Over 250 sets. Thanks everyone.

Thats pretty good for a redundant keyset  )

That was an amazingly fast buy, congrats!

[WOMBO]

shoutouts to the mysterious man who put in over 115 orders in one go

[nugglets]

shoutouts to the mysterious man who put in over 115 orders in one go

lol... That's just what happens when there are so many people "committed" to the lowest price point. Once it hits the number required, all those orders get added to the total at once.

[T0mb3ry]

shoutouts to the mysterious man who put in over 115 orders in one go

I mean i saw a "COMMIT AT 115$" button. Which means you will automaticaly commit if the price drops that low. Am i wrong? If i am wrong than lets cheer to our friends from far east 

[kenmai9]

shoutouts to the mysterious man who put in over 115 orders in one go

I mean i saw a "COMMIT AT 115$" button. Which means you will automaticaly commit if the price drops that low. Am i wrong? If i am wrong than lets cheer to our friends from far east 

this is correct.

once x (number of committers) + current orders = MOQ (250?) then itll jump to the last pricing.

yay good job geeks