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Offline myyrddraal

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Re: [IC] KAM Wraith (samples pics)
« Reply #200 on: Fri, 05 July 2019, 12:54:59 »
how bout mt3
There is too small surface for it. Besides the surface is also too curved to let the complex legends shine.


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Offline Surefoot

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Re: [IC] KAM Wraith (samples pics)
« Reply #201 on: Fri, 05 July 2019, 23:02:08 »
XDAS ('squared' XDA) is the only other similar profile, with a big enough top to fit the sublegends. It's got a matte finish too.

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Re: [IC] KAM Wraith (samples pics)
« Reply #202 on: Fri, 05 July 2019, 23:09:53 »
i kinda like the shiny but i can see it wouldn't be a thing for everyone, glad to see this moving! i sure do like how it looks on this profile
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Re: [IC] KAM Wraith (samples pics)
« Reply #203 on: Sat, 06 July 2019, 03:16:17 »
seems doable for mt3


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Re: [IC] KAM Wraith (samples pics)
« Reply #204 on: Sat, 06 July 2019, 03:19:44 »
seems doable for mt3

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Gonna have to slap a big “Doubt-It!” On that one lol

Just Fitting This:



Onto that key and making it match the adjacent legends seems pretty difficult.
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Re: [IC] KAM Wraith (samples pics)
« Reply #205 on: Sat, 06 July 2019, 03:48:11 »
seems doable for mt3

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Have you seen all the legends? The KAM/Kat is the smallest possible surface imho


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Re: [IC] KAM Wraith (samples pics)
« Reply #206 on: Sat, 06 July 2019, 09:11:51 »
Sorry that shiny KAM finish is too much for the project. I really like it, but can understand why it would not be appropriate for this project.

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Re: [IC] KAM Wraith (samples pics)
« Reply #207 on: Sat, 06 July 2019, 11:38:07 »
I'm definitely joining for the KAT Wraith. Already have a KAT Alpha for mine and I can't have any complaint about it.

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Re: [IC] KAM Wraith (samples pics)
« Reply #208 on: Sun, 07 July 2019, 10:00:44 »
Well, I chose KAM because of the large surface.
Sadly I had to work with the KAT template that's why the legends are so tight...
Keep in mind that this a prototype :thumb:

I thought about KAT R3 only (to keep the "uniform" look), but I'll have to check the top surface.
IIRC overall dye-sub on KAT isn't easy because how dug the keycap is.
I'm still working on the project and trying to find solutions with Keyreative tho!

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[IC] KAM Wraith (samples pics)
« Reply #209 on: Sun, 07 July 2019, 10:08:46 »
Well, I chose KAM because of the large surface.
Sadly I had to work with the KAT template that's why the legends are so tight...
Keep in mind that this a prototype :thumb:

I thought about KAT R3 only (to keep the "uniform" look), but I'll have to check the top surface.
IIRC overall dye-sub on KAT isn't easy because how dug the keycap is.
I'm still working on the project and trying to find solutions with Keyreative tho!
Such a pity. I am out. I really hoped this could have been the ultimate keyset.


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Re: [IC] KAM Wraith (samples pics)
« Reply #210 on: Sun, 07 July 2019, 10:15:48 »
Well, I chose KAM because of the large surface.
Sadly I had to work with the KAT template that's why the legends are so tight...
Keep in mind that this a prototype :thumb:

I thought about KAT R3 only (to keep the "uniform" look), but I'll have to check the top surface.
IIRC overall dye-sub on KAT isn't easy because how dug the keycap is.
I'm still working on the project and trying to find solutions with Keyreative tho!
Such a pity. I am out. I really hoped this could have been the ultimate keyset.


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What do you mean? I’m just trying to get a correct final product.
The initial design had matte finish. The samples are glossy. Even if some people like the result, I need to see how it would look with an accurate result.

I hope you can understand that :)

Offline myyrddraal

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[IC] KAM Wraith (samples pics)
« Reply #211 on: Sun, 07 July 2019, 10:21:34 »
Well, I chose KAM because of the large surface.
Sadly I had to work with the KAT template that's why the legends are so tight...
Keep in mind that this a prototype :thumb:

I thought about KAT R3 only (to keep the "uniform" look), but I'll have to check the top surface.
IIRC overall dye-sub on KAT isn't easy because how dug the keycap is.
I'm still working on the project and trying to find solutions with Keyreative tho!
Such a pity. I am out. I really hoped this could have been the ultimate keyset.


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What do you mean? I’m just trying to get a correct final product.
The initial design had matte finish. The samples are glossy. Even if some people like the result, I need to see how it would look with an accurate result.

I hope you can understand that :)
You mentioned earlier that KAM is available only in glossy finish. So i took it as a fact KAM==glossy. And please please don't take it as a criticism or whatever. Do whatever you find the right way. If there is a chance for KAM in matte that would be THE killer keyset ( of course only for my small individual :-) )


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Re: [IC] KAM Wraith (samples pics)
« Reply #212 on: Sun, 07 July 2019, 12:00:06 »
Well, I chose KAM because of the large surface.
Sadly I had to work with the KAT template that's why the legends are so tight...
Keep in mind that this a prototype :thumb:

I thought about KAT R3 only (to keep the "uniform" look), but I'll have to check the top surface.
IIRC overall dye-sub on KAT isn't easy because how dug the keycap is.
I'm still working on the project and trying to find solutions with Keyreative tho!
Such a pity. I am out. I really hoped this could have been the ultimate keyset.


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What do you mean? I’m just trying to get a correct final product.
The initial design had matte finish. The samples are glossy. Even if some people like the result, I need to see how it would look with an accurate result.

I hope you can understand that :)
You mentioned earlier that KAM is available only in glossy finish. So i took it as a fact KAM==glossy. And please please don't take it as a criticism or whatever. Do whatever you find the right way. If there is a chance for KAM in matte that would be THE killer keyset ( of course only for my small individual :-) )


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Oh well I kinda misunderstood then :) my bad ahah!
But yeah, as I said I really want the set to fit the ZX Spectrum aesthetic and I’ll do my best to reach my objective :)

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Re: [IC] KAM Wraith (samples pics)
« Reply #213 on: Sun, 07 July 2019, 21:17:28 »
G20 would also be some kind of option. Not sure how it would feel in use, but it worked well for Semiotic (similarly dominated by large legends with a rougher texture).

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Re: [IC] KAM Wraith (samples pics)
« Reply #214 on: Mon, 08 July 2019, 01:30:54 »
G20 would also be some kind of option. Not sure how it would feel in use, but it worked well for Semiotic (similarly dominated by large legends with a rougher texture).
While G20 is the next thing to the original shape of the ZX Spectrum rubber pads it provides good feeling only on very few keyboards. It would decrease the sale pitch of the set drastically imho.


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Re: [IC] KAM Wraith (samples pics)
« Reply #215 on: Tue, 09 July 2019, 12:06:39 »
G20 would also be some kind of option. Not sure how it would feel in use, but it worked well for Semiotic (similarly dominated by large legends with a rougher texture).
While G20 is the next thing to the original shape of the ZX Spectrum rubber pads it provides good feeling only on very few keyboards. It would decrease the sale pitch of the set drastically imho.


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Can you elaborate? I'm typing on G20 right now (Iris keyboard) and it feels amazing, curious what makes G20 feel good/bad

Offline myyrddraal

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Re: [IC] KAM Wraith (samples pics)
« Reply #216 on: Tue, 09 July 2019, 13:26:48 »
G20 would also be some kind of option. Not sure how it would feel in use, but it worked well for Semiotic (similarly dominated by large legends with a rougher texture).
While G20 is the next thing to the original shape of the ZX Spectrum rubber pads it provides good feeling only on very few keyboards. It would decrease the sale pitch of the set drastically imho.


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Can you elaborate? I'm typing on G20 right now (Iris keyboard) and it feels amazing, curious what makes G20 feel good/bad
Planck with pink kailh: meh. Anything standard staggered (full size mx clears, 68 with burn oranges) really meh (could not of course try fully but everything 1u). Chimera ergo with MOD-M tactile: so, so. But dactyl manuform (Outemu Skies v2.2 no led opening so less wobble) was very pleasant. I suppose for me they need tenting. Building corne now, plan to try them on T1s.



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Offline nuclear_wizard

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Re: [IC] KAM Wraith (samples pics)
« Reply #217 on: Wed, 07 August 2019, 14:41:42 »
Any movement on this set?

Offline garbo

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Re: [IC] KAM Wraith (samples pics)
« Reply #218 on: Wed, 07 August 2019, 20:42:54 »
Any movement on this set?

From the KAT Milkshake thread:

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I'm also trying to find a solution for Wraith. Oh wait… I have one 👀 Stay tuned for that one!

There's only so many projects a person can handle at once, though. Seems like this might be further down the pipeline than Milkshake.

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Re: [IC] KAM Wraith (samples pics)
« Reply #219 on: Wed, 07 August 2019, 21:39:14 »
G20 would also be some kind of option. Not sure how it would feel in use, but it worked well for Semiotic (similarly dominated by large legends with a rougher texture).
While G20 is the next thing to the original shape of the ZX Spectrum rubber pads it provides good feeling only on very few keyboards. It would decrease the sale pitch of the set drastically imho.


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Can you elaborate? I'm typing on G20 right now (Iris keyboard) and it feels amazing, curious what makes G20 feel good/bad
Planck with pink kailh: meh. Anything standard staggered (full size mx clears, 68 with burn oranges) really meh (could not of course try fully but everything 1u). Chimera ergo with MOD-M tactile: so, so. But dactyl manuform (Outemu Skies v2.2 no led opening so less wobble) was very pleasant. I suppose for me they need tenting. Building corne now, plan to try them on T1s.



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I'm one user of G20 too and I do like it, though... right now I don't use it.


but is it even possible to make this set in G20? I don't think SP do reverse-dyesub.

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Re: [IC] KAM Wraith (samples pics)
« Reply #220 on: Thu, 08 August 2019, 01:59:19 »
Any movement on this set?

Yes, I have to rework kits a bit but we will be able to get mate finish on KAM profile. More info soon.

Offline myyrddraal

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Re: [IC] KAM Wraith (samples pics)
« Reply #221 on: Thu, 08 August 2019, 02:44:09 »
Any movement on this set?

Yes, I have to rework kits a bit but we will be able to get mate finish on KAM profile. More info soon.
Excellent news!


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Offline nuclear_wizard

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Re: [IC] KAM Wraith (samples pics)
« Reply #222 on: Thu, 08 August 2019, 13:40:44 »
Any movement on this set?

Yes, I have to rework kits a bit but we will be able to get mate finish on KAM profile. More info soon.
Great to hear! Thanks for the update!

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Re: [IC] KAM Wraith (samples pics)
« Reply #223 on: Wed, 14 August 2019, 10:58:07 »
Rainbow on the ortho space?

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Re: [IC] KAM Wraith (samples pics)
« Reply #224 on: Wed, 14 August 2019, 14:16:30 »
Rainbow on the ortho space?

I will rework all the kits after the Group Buy of KAT Milkshake :thumb:

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Re: [IC] KAM Wraith (samples pics)
« Reply #225 on: Fri, 16 August 2019, 07:01:41 »

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Re: [IC] KAM Wraith (samples pics)
« Reply #226 on: Fri, 16 August 2019, 07:19:39 »

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Re: [IC] KAM Wraith (samples pics)
« Reply #227 on: Fri, 16 August 2019, 08:40:43 »
Rainbow on the ortho space?
Second!
third :-)


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Re: [IC] KAM Wraith (samples pics)
« Reply #228 on: Fri, 16 August 2019, 09:03:07 »
Rainbow on the ortho space?
Second!

will do  :thumb:
For realz? Awesome sauce!

As someone whose first computer in the still-communist Czechoslovakia in 1988 was the original Sinclair ZX Spectrum, I can't wait for this!

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Re: [IC] KAM Wraith (samples pics)
« Reply #229 on: Mon, 19 August 2019, 06:11:21 »
Rainbow on the ortho space?
Second!

will do  :thumb:
For realz? Awesome sauce!

As someone whose first computer in the still-communist Czechoslovakia in 1988 was the original Sinclair ZX Spectrum, I can't wait for this!
Zdravim davneho brata v zbroji...


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Re: [IC] KAM Wraith (samples pics)
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Re: [IC] KAM Wraith (samples pics)
« Reply #231 on: Fri, 13 September 2019, 08:04:14 »
Rainbow on the ortho space?

I will rework all the kits after the Group Buy of KAT Milkshake :thumb:

And maybe add a baguette kit ?  ;D
Please be our messiah !  :thumb:

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Re: [IC] KAM Wraith (samples pics)
« Reply #232 on: Mon, 30 September 2019, 05:03:30 »
Dying to see samples of the non shiny kam

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Re: [IC] KAM Wraith (samples pics)
« Reply #233 on: Fri, 04 October 2019, 14:58:19 »
Got any info about this?  :-X

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Re: [IC] KAM Wraith (samples pics)
« Reply #234 on: Fri, 04 October 2019, 16:52:28 »
Milkshake just finished up, so I'm sure biip is still catching their breath. Give 'em one more day, then let the pestering commence!  :))

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Re: [IC] KAM Wraith (samples pics)
« Reply #235 on: Sat, 05 October 2019, 11:10:52 »
Milkshake just finished up, so I'm sure biip is still catching their breath. Give 'em one more day, then let the pestering commence!  :))

I plan to release another set very soon. Then I will finalize Wraith :thumb:

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Re: [IC] KAM Wraith (samples pics)
« Reply #236 on: Sat, 05 October 2019, 11:45:26 »
I plan to release another set very soon. Then I will finalize Wraith :thumb:

Noo, more wait... Other sets can wait, Wraith has been my dream set ever since I found out about it! :-)

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Re: [IC] KAM Wraith (samples pics)
« Reply #237 on: Sat, 05 October 2019, 11:46:14 »
Milkshake just finished up, so I'm sure biip is still catching their breath. Give 'em one more day, then let the pestering commence!  :))

I plan to release another set very soon. Then I will finalize Wraith :thumb:
Tell me more!

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Re: [IC] KAM Wraith (samples pics)
« Reply #238 on: Mon, 21 October 2019, 16:27:45 »
Are there convex 1u molds for planck space"bars" in KAM profile?

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Re: [IC] KAM Wraith (samples pics)
« Reply #239 on: Wed, 23 October 2019, 05:04:18 »
want that set, never tried KAM, willing to try!

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Re: [IC] KAM Wraith (samples pics)
« Reply #240 on: Wed, 23 October 2019, 06:25:15 »
I received new samples with a matte finish!
I'll post a massive update hopefully next month :thumb:

I'll make a potato pic of em tonight since it's night when I leave my work's place…
I might be able to shoot this weekend by daylight tho.

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Re: [IC] KAM Wraith (samples pics)
« Reply #241 on: Wed, 23 October 2019, 06:28:40 »
Awesome!  :p

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Re: [IC] KAM Wraith (samples pics)
« Reply #242 on: Wed, 23 October 2019, 06:39:53 »
I received new samples with a matte finish!
I'll post a massive update hopefully next month :thumb:

I'll make a potato pic of em tonight since it's night when I leave my work's place…
I might be able to shoot this weekend by daylight tho.

Awesome news. How's the quality? Are you satisfied with samples? ;)

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Re: [IC] KAM Wraith (samples pics)
« Reply #243 on: Wed, 23 October 2019, 06:54:52 »
I received new samples with a matte finish!
I'll post a massive update hopefully next month :thumb:

I'll make a potato pic of em tonight since it's night when I leave my work's place…
I might be able to shoot this weekend by daylight tho.

Awesome news. How's the quality? Are you satisfied with samples? ;)

The surface is awesome, and the dye-sub is what I expected. I'll some new color samples but I think I've found a solution to make this set become real!

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Re: [IC] KAM Wraith (samples pics)
« Reply #244 on: Wed, 23 October 2019, 06:58:44 »
This is awesome to hear! Really exited for sample pics  ;D

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Re: [IC] KAM Wraith (samples pics)
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Re: [IC] KAM Wraith (samples pics)
« Reply #246 on: Wed, 23 October 2019, 11:07:16 »
KAM here we come!

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Re: [IC] KAM Wraith (samples pics)
« Reply #247 on: Wed, 23 October 2019, 12:08:02 »
I received new samples with a matte finish!
I'll post a massive update hopefully next month :thumb:

I'll make a potato pic of em tonight since it's night when I leave my work's place…
I might be able to shoot this weekend by daylight tho.

So glad to see they can do matte.  Looking forward to the photos.

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Re: [IC] KAM Wraith (samples pics)
« Reply #248 on: Wed, 23 October 2019, 12:56:06 »
Yay, I really hope this moves to GB soon! Can't wait.

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Re: [IC] KAM Wraith (samples pics)
« Reply #249 on: Wed, 23 October 2019, 19:01:17 »
Same Here. Very excited to join the GB.
Would you considere an extra  "Wraith baguette" kit?
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