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Offline piit79

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Re: [IC] KAM Wraith (samples pics)
« Reply #400 on: Thu, 19 December 2019, 10:07:20 »


That's not what I'm concerned with. It's just that there's more overlap between ortho and ergo when you look at ortho split thumb clusters or boardwalk.

I do agree ortho fits in better with ergo than base. I'm just saying that it suits me better to have it in the base - if it was in ergo I'd probably have to skip base (or spend $200 instead of $130) which would be a shame.

Of course, ideally there would be separate alphas, mods, 40%, ortho and ergo kits, but that turns out to be quite a bit more expensive per key due to the added labour required (I assume).

Offline psxndc

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Re: [IC] KAM Wraith (samples pics)
« Reply #401 on: Thu, 19 December 2019, 10:18:45 »
I'm ok because I'm in for many kits, but for ortho is 2u space really more popular than grid 2x 1u?

i think it is honestly
Pretty much every keeb.io split ortho board supports two 2U space bars: Iris, Nyquist, Viterbi and older Levinsons. Iris at least is pretty darn popular.

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Re: [IC] KAM Wraith (samples pics)
« Reply #402 on: Thu, 19 December 2019, 10:55:51 »
and another update

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Ergo got a rainbow! Ergo got a rainbow! 

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Offline InvidiousIgnoramus

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Re: [IC] KAM Wraith (samples pics)
« Reply #403 on: Thu, 19 December 2019, 12:11:12 »
It's still happening? Yay!
I long for the day when I find a beamspring. (At a not insane price)

Offline Mcnos

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Re: [IC] KAM Wraith (samples pics)
« Reply #404 on: Thu, 19 December 2019, 13:34:15 »
Also planing to do deskmatsÖ

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Offline Loligagger

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Re: [IC] KAM Wraith (samples pics)
« Reply #405 on: Thu, 19 December 2019, 14:01:31 »
Just thinking out loud with a low effort shoop.

(Attachment Link)

I'd be ok to get rid of the extra 1.5 mods if that lower the cost.
Also, your layout creates duplicates though.

Yea I noticed afterwards. The intent was to use the generic legends either from the earlier ergodox kit or the first one here for the horizontal 1.5u keys. That way there are only 8 of them but it can cover any layout.
Also, could the two blank keys in the ergo kit become curly brace/square bracket keys?
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Re: [IC] KAM Wraith (samples pics)
« Reply #406 on: Thu, 19 December 2019, 14:52:31 »
Please consider adding "A" to the Homing kit to support the Carpalx QGMLWY layout.


Offline Kawamashi

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Re: [IC] KAM Wraith (samples pics)
« Reply #407 on: Fri, 20 December 2019, 16:56:38 »
Also, could the two blank keys in the ergo kit become curly brace/square bracket keys?

Please keep íem blanks !

Offline Robosculpts

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Re: [IC] KAM Wraith (samples pics)
« Reply #408 on: Fri, 03 January 2020, 12:19:52 »
Is this going to GB before or after GMK Bushido?

Offline MdotMaxson

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Re: [IC] KAM Wraith (samples pics)
« Reply #409 on: Sat, 04 January 2020, 07:31:41 »
If have to say I also agree most ergo users or at least a good portion will be on boardwalk and I have twice now had the problem of no blank 2Us in ergo sets (GMK Oblivion R2 which you couldnít even get 2 blank 2Us buying the spacebars kit, and space cadet assembly as well) and the text going in the wrong direction kills it for me.

Also I completely agree with no need for raise and lower for ortho. I mean as a previous ortho user Iíd have to say you are already accustomed to not having perfect legends and especially since there are multiple up and down arrow keys already included.... you guys really gonna throw a fit when there are two up arrow keys that are different and two down arrow keys that are different over the text raise and lower ? Iíd have to say my raise and lower keys have never not been novelties to be honest. But whatever doesnít affect me I guess cause Iím buying ergo, spacebars, extension, arrows so Iíll have more than enough keys but sucks for the people who have to buy spacebars to get 2 blanks just cause a few ortho users need perfect legends on a keyboard that was almost designed for abstract legends.

Also. I always thought it went without saying biip is by far the dominant designer out of all the top designers in this little industry. Iím convinced he is the only one who does an interest check and accepts feedback. Every other top name designer itís like why pretend.... call it a hype generator because we all know you think your kits were designed perfect and you likely donít even read the comments for feedback... only looking for praise to fan the ego.

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Re: [IC] KAM Wraith (New kits and pricing!)
« Reply #410 on: Mon, 06 January 2020, 02:42:56 »
Just updated the initial thead :)
GB should start at the end of the month (still waiting for renders atm)

Offline danieljgrouse

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Re: [IC] KAM Wraith (New kits and pricing!)
« Reply #411 on: Mon, 06 January 2020, 02:57:54 »
I think the prices for the Ergo kit and the Extensions kit might be swapped? Seems strange that the huge Ergo kit would be $70 but Extension $110

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Re: [IC] KAM Wraith (New kits and pricing!)
« Reply #412 on: Mon, 06 January 2020, 03:02:37 »
Yeah - extensions seem a little high ... at least ... i hope so

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Re: [IC] KAM Wraith (New kits and pricing!)
« Reply #413 on: Mon, 06 January 2020, 03:13:11 »
I think the prices for the Ergo kit and the Extensions kit might be swapped? Seems strange that the huge Ergo kit would be $70 but Extension $110

Whoops! Fixed!
Extension is $32 :p

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Re: [IC] KAM Wraith (New kits and pricing!)
« Reply #414 on: Mon, 06 January 2020, 03:23:12 »
Will you use proxies? Do you have an estimated ship date?

Thanks for making this kit matte. I would have been bought as shiny too, but matte is much better, I can't wait to get it.

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Re: [IC] KAM Wraith (New kits and pricing!)
« Reply #415 on: Mon, 06 January 2020, 03:26:10 »
Will you use proxies? Do you have an estimated ship date?

Thanks for making this kit matte. I would have been bought as shiny too, but matte is much better, I can't wait to get it.

Novelkeys, Candykeys, Zfrontier, and Dailyclack.
No shipping date yet.

Offline raptorzoz

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Re: [IC] KAM Wraith (New kits and pricing!)
« Reply #416 on: Mon, 06 January 2020, 04:45:41 »
Will you use proxies? Do you have an estimated ship date?

Thanks for making this kit matte. I would have been bought as shiny too, but matte is much better, I can't wait to get it.

Novelkeys, Candykeys, Zfrontier, and Dailyclack.
No shipping date yet.

Any euro prices? Also what time frame are we looking at? Will it run into February?

Offline MdotMaxson

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Re: [IC] KAM Wraith (New kits and pricing!)
« Reply #417 on: Mon, 06 January 2020, 04:47:23 »
My last input is Iím really going to miss the kit that had all red nav keys. RIP the all red dye subbs

Offline stoffelduss

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Re: [IC] KAM Wraith (New kits and pricing!)
« Reply #418 on: Mon, 06 January 2020, 05:02:21 »
Wait are the 2u blanks in the ergo kit not convex? I'd prefer them convex! In fact I think all the 2u keys in that kit could use being convex, or would anyone mind convex thumb keys?
« Last Edit: Mon, 06 January 2020, 05:05:31 by stoffelduss »

Offline piit79

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Re: [IC] KAM Wraith (New kits and pricing!)
« Reply #419 on: Mon, 06 January 2020, 05:44:43 »
Novelkeys, Candykeys, Zfrontier, and Dailyclack.
No shipping date yet.

Very much hoping CandyKeys pricing is going to be reasonable. I like the shop but it seems to be generally more expensive than MyKeyboard.

Can't wait nonetheless!

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Re: [IC] KAM Wraith (New kits and pricing!)
« Reply #420 on: Mon, 06 January 2020, 09:07:39 »
Interesting that new molds have to be made for the matte finish, so it's not just different material?  (still gonna buy and rock the set)

Hopefully, this will lead to cheaper KAM matte sets in the future?

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Re: [IC] KAM Wraith (New kits and pricing!)
« Reply #421 on: Mon, 06 January 2020, 09:15:32 »
Hopefully, this will lead to cheaper KAM matte sets in the future?

Indeed. This set is co-financing new molds  :thumb:

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Re: [IC] KAM Wraith (GB the jan. 27th!)
« Reply #422 on: Mon, 06 January 2020, 10:36:53 »
Group Buy is scheduled for January 27th, until February 28th.

Vendors:
  • US: Novelkeys
  • EU: Candykeys
  • Asia: Zfrontier
  • Oceania: Dailyclack

Thank you all for the support!

Offline Robosculpts

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Re: [IC] KAM Wraith (GB the jan. 27th!)
« Reply #423 on: Mon, 06 January 2020, 12:40:50 »
$70 ergo set is my favorite thing in 2020 so far. Thank you biip!

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Re: [IC] KAM Wraith (New kits and pricing!)
« Reply #424 on: Tue, 07 January 2020, 01:47:12 »
Novelkeys, Candykeys, Zfrontier, and Dailyclack.
No shipping date yet.

Very much hoping CandyKeys pricing is going to be reasonable. I like the shop but it seems to be generally more expensive than MyKeyboard.

Can't wait nonetheless!

Base kit estimated price (including tax.): 93Ä

Offline dmatx1

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Re: [IC] KAM Wraith (GB the jan. 27th!)
« Reply #425 on: Tue, 07 January 2020, 02:12:43 »
Base kit estimated price (including tax.): 93Ä
Are you sure in this number? It would be cheaper with VAT than US price without taxes.

KAT Milkshake prices were reasonable, so I'm not afraid of EU pricing.


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Re: [IC] KAM Wraith (New kits and pricing!)
« Reply #426 on: Tue, 07 January 2020, 02:40:19 »
Novelkeys, Candykeys, Zfrontier, and Dailyclack.
No shipping date yet.

Very much hoping CandyKeys pricing is going to be reasonable. I like the shop but it seems to be generally more expensive than MyKeyboard.

Can't wait nonetheless!

Base kit estimated price (including tax.): 93Ä

Thats an unbelievably good price point, I'm tempted to just buy all the sets at this point  :D

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Re: [IC] KAM Wraith (GB the jan. 27th!)
« Reply #427 on: Tue, 07 January 2020, 03:45:39 »
Oh okay for 93Ä I'm in for sure!

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Re: [IC] KAM Wraith (GB the jan. 27th!)
« Reply #428 on: Tue, 07 January 2020, 04:36:51 »
I've been waiting for this--so stoked! In for the base kit and calc kit.

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Re: [IC] KAM Wraith (GB the jan. 27th!)
« Reply #429 on: Tue, 07 January 2020, 07:08:17 »
Are you sure in this number? It would be cheaper with VAT than US price without taxes.

KAT Milkshake prices were reasonable, so I'm not afraid of EU pricing.

Just as a heads up, those prices aren't NovelKeys pricing. I think they are zF's. We will have our pricing to biip today.

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Re: [IC] KAM Wraith (GB the jan. 27th!)
« Reply #430 on: Tue, 07 January 2020, 07:16:52 »
Are you sure in this number? It would be cheaper with VAT than US price without taxes.

KAT Milkshake prices were reasonable, so I'm not afraid of EU pricing.

Just as a heads up, those prices aren't NovelKeys pricing. I think they are zF's. We will have our pricing to biip today.

Now I'm scared.

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Re: [IC] KAM Wraith (GB the jan. 27th!)
« Reply #431 on: Tue, 07 January 2020, 07:20:09 »
Are you sure in this number? It would be cheaper with VAT than US price without taxes.

KAT Milkshake prices were reasonable, so I'm not afraid of EU pricing.

Just as a heads up, those prices aren't NovelKeys pricing. I think they are zF's. We will have our pricing to biip today.

Now I'm scared.

base$95.00
calc$16.00
ergo$65.00
extension$30.00
intl$35.00
nav$11.00
space$22.00

Offline rockydbull

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Re: [IC] KAM Wraith (GB the jan. 27th!)
« Reply #432 on: Tue, 07 January 2020, 07:41:10 »
Are you sure in this number? It would be cheaper with VAT than US price without taxes.

KAT Milkshake prices were reasonable, so I'm not afraid of EU pricing.

Just as a heads up, those prices aren't NovelKeys pricing. I think they are zF's. We will have our pricing to biip today.

These prices are very much in line (good) with what I would expect from a pbt keycap groupbuy, but I see this includes co-financing of new molds. What kind of pricing is it without the co-financing (say base for example)?

Now I'm scared.

base$95.00
calc$16.00
ergo$65.00
extension$30.00
intl$35.00
nav$11.00
space$22.00

Offline InvidiousIgnoramus

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Re: [IC] KAM Wraith (GB the jan. 27th!)
« Reply #433 on: Tue, 07 January 2020, 07:45:12 »
Aww, people really wanna ditch the shiny molds? I was hoping to have a set or two in those.
I long for the day when I find a beamspring. (At a not insane price)

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Re: [IC] KAM Wraith (GB the jan. 27th!)
« Reply #434 on: Tue, 07 January 2020, 07:49:29 »
Aww, people really wanna ditch the shiny molds? I was hoping to have a set or two in those.

I chose matte finish due to readability issue.
The shiny finish made the legends difficult to read and didn't look good.
Hope you understand my choice :)

The default (shiny) finish remains interesting though! But for other setsÖ :p

Offline dmatx1

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Re: [IC] KAM Wraith (GB the jan. 27th!)
« Reply #435 on: Tue, 07 January 2020, 07:54:11 »
Are you sure in this number? It would be cheaper with VAT than US price without taxes.

KAT Milkshake prices were reasonable, so I'm not afraid of EU pricing.

Just as a heads up, those prices aren't NovelKeys pricing. I think they are zF's. We will have our pricing to biip today.

Now I'm scared.

base$95.00
calc$16.00
ergo$65.00
extension$30.00
intl$35.00
nav$11.00
space$22.00

 :eek:

I think this will be the first time that I'll buy two base kits. I hope that Keyreative will be able to produce all running and soon-to-be-running KAT/KAM GBs without significant delays.

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Re: [IC] KAM Wraith (GB the jan. 27th!)
« Reply #436 on: Tue, 07 January 2020, 08:03:57 »
Are you sure in this number? It would be cheaper with VAT than US price without taxes.

KAT Milkshake prices were reasonable, so I'm not afraid of EU pricing.

Just as a heads up, those prices aren't NovelKeys pricing. I think they are zF's. We will have our pricing to biip today.

Now I'm scared.

base$95.00
calc$16.00
ergo$65.00
extension$30.00
intl$35.00
nav$11.00
space$22.00

 :eek:

I think this will be the first time that I'll buy two base kits. I hope that Keyreative will be able to produce all running and soon-to-be-running KAT/KAM GBs without significant delays.

That's tough to predict.
Noone did expect that we will sell 6k KAT Milkshake kits. That's why it's getting delayed.
Keep also in mind that there are final samples approval phase and sometimes adjustment needs to be done :)

I rather deliver a delayed perfect product than something crappy on time :thumb:

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Re: [IC] KAM Wraith (GB the jan. 27th!)
« Reply #437 on: Tue, 07 January 2020, 08:35:30 »
Haha $65! Even better!

Offline geekit

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Re: [IC] KAM Wraith (GB the jan. 27th!)
« Reply #438 on: Tue, 07 January 2020, 08:50:54 »
PBT matte is always nice, but I somehow miss the shiny version ;D

Offline Aevyn

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Re: [IC] KAM Wraith (GB the jan. 27th!)
« Reply #439 on: Tue, 07 January 2020, 10:10:05 »
Is it possible to make the 2.75 and 2u spacebar keys into 2.75c and 2c ?

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Re: [IC] KAM Wraith (GB the jan. 27th!)
« Reply #440 on: Tue, 07 January 2020, 12:59:14 »
I'd love to pick up a shiny kit just for display, but for actual use, I'm looking forward to the matte finish.

Offline piit79

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Re: [IC] KAM Wraith (GB the jan. 27th!)
« Reply #441 on: Tue, 07 January 2020, 13:06:24 »
Is it possible to make the 2.75 and 2u spacebar keys into 2.75c and 2c ?

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The 2u space is already convex as far as I can see. Did you mean 2.25u and 2.75u? I second that, would be cool to have convex spacebars for split boards.

However, that would mean having to make two more moulds, which might not be feasible. It would probably increase the spacebar kit price significantly...

Offline geekit

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Re: [IC] KAM Wraith (GB the jan. 27th!)
« Reply #442 on: Tue, 07 January 2020, 19:57:23 »
I'd love to pick up a shiny kit just for display, but for actual use, I'm looking forward to the matte finish.

Majority of my keycaps are PBT matte (3 out of 4), so I'm interested on how shiny PBT feels like. And yeah i'm interested in uniform, glossy/shiny finish :)

But this one is probably instabuy for me anyway.

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Re: [IC] KAM Wraith (GB the jan. 27th!)
« Reply #443 on: Sat, 11 January 2020, 06:37:39 »
I'm excited for this one.

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Re: [IC] KAM Wraith (GB the jan. 27th!)
« Reply #444 on: Sun, 12 January 2020, 12:31:09 »
Looking forward to this one!

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Re: [IC] KAM Wraith (GB the jan. 27th!)
« Reply #445 on: Sun, 12 January 2020, 13:42:04 »
great work. and as always: intel kit means i am in <3

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Re: [IC] KAM Wraith (GB the jan. 27th!)
« Reply #446 on: Sun, 12 January 2020, 20:09:29 »
Sad to see candykeys as the EU vendor, will probably buy anyway but oh well


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Re: [IC] KAM Wraith (GB the jan. 27th!)
« Reply #447 on: Mon, 13 January 2020, 22:29:56 »
Great design! I want!
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Offline radam

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Re: [IC] KAM Wraith (GB the jan. 27th!)
« Reply #448 on: Mon, 13 January 2020, 23:01:28 »
does a 2u spacebar exist with the "space break" text? or is the planck render old?

Offline piit79

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Re: [IC] KAM Wraith (GB the jan. 27th!)
« Reply #449 on: Tue, 14 January 2020, 00:42:55 »
Sad to see candykeys as the EU vendor, will probably buy anyway but oh well


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Why is that? Their service seems to be pretty good from my experience.