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Offline OwLab

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[IC] Jelly Epoch - 75% and in-stock, coming in April
« on: Fri, 19 March 2021, 16:40:54 »

GB announced here, IC info might be deprecated
Layout: 75%
Price: announced in GB post
Format: in-stock FCFS
When: mid-April
Units: 900 total
including 150 locked to SEA and 50 locked to Korea
Album: Imgur
Best way to keep-up with us: Discord


Update 1: streaming schedule
andy
navy unit
- unboxing
- building
- Typing sound and text review (Plz open up the vid description, it's a hidden gem)

alexotos
ink unit
- unboxing
- building
- CRP typing sound and review

- SA Typing sound


minterly - sage unit
- 16th of April
apiary - ruby unit
- 14th of April
mechmerlin - dewdrop unit
- 15th of April



Hiya folks, this is TT from Owlab. Voice65% was such a successful project and we thank you all for supporting us to convert unorthodox ideas to the actual products in your hands. It was an extremely challenging ride with difficulties, luck and satisfying results. We gathered feedbacks along the way and realized that there are issues we need to address in the upcoming projects. With our pursuit towards the endgame, we present you our latest design Ė Jelly Epoch.

Ink&Navy

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Ruby

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Sage

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Dewdrop

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Jelly is the first thing that come to our mind when thinking about springy or boing boing feeling. Jelly epoch represents our wish to bring you the same surprise and bounciness when enjoying the jelly desserts as kids. Lots of sophisticated attempts have been arranged towards that goal. Please allow me to elaborate a bit further.

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Hightlight:


Jelly Gasket
You may or may not heard about the evolution of the gasket-mount.
As we see it, the first batch of gaskets used silicone-alike materials which donít absorb the vibration very well,
and softer materials such as PORON were introduced in the second batch of gasket designs to address that problem. Yet, one issue remained is the method of installation.
According to the feedback from our last sale, traditional gaskets have created confusions and inconvenience during installations.
First of all, itís generally hard to make it perfect straight without the help of tools.
Secondly, only top and bottom of the spring leaves are insulated by gaskets while the sides of the spring leaves might direct contact the cases if not precisely installed.
Lastly, not everyone reads the build guide so some of the customers might be unsure of the location to put on those gaskets (on cases or spring leaves).
Hence, we came with the jelly gasket jackets to solve all these problems at once.


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Jelly gaskets insulate the sides of the spring leaves and they are not sticky at all.
Silicone as a material isnít flexy enough, so we designed a customized shape of the gasket to help address that problem.



Ultra Flex PCB

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Grooves arenít something new to the plates. We have those in the space between F-row and the number row too.
In addition to that, we believe the installation fixates the plate and the PCB together thus it is necessary to lessen the rigidity of the PCB as well.
5 grooves, along with a reduction in the thickness of the PCB (donít worry about the stabs, we have accessories to ensure the compatibility),are our solution to the problem.
We have faced great challenges in wiring, and it took us four attempts to reach the final version. Luckily, the result is so satisfying that we cannot wait to let you try it out in hand.



Composite dual-layer foam
ďFind your own Voice.Ē was our target to help enthusiasts exploring different build paths therefore figuring out your preference.
Paths are different because of the characteristics they present are contradicting each other.
For example, Poron would be a good represent to the ďmuteĒ feeling due to its great absorption of vibration
but it might not be the type of thing for a brass plate lover, who wants rigid bottom out.

Jelly Epoch, however, is our attempt to express our preferred mix of typing feeling as well as a sound profile we love.
Multiple materials were recommended by our friends in the acoustic industry. Two boxes of combination tryouts later,
we have a composite dual-layer foam that delivers a sound profile like shaking the wite-out (correction fluid) and a boing boing typing feeling, thanks to its synergy with the ultra-flex PCB.


Plates
PC plate goes well with gasket-mounts just like the BBQ and beer so yeah it comes with the kit.
Alu plate will be offered extra. It has better rigidity so we believe leaf-spring would be a better approach to give it more flexiness.




Appearances

Same as Voice65%, the gasket-mount structure is hidden in the top and middle case.
Itís costly but it would allow more design features on the sides of the case and more levels of details.
Sandblasting is improved to 180 mesh. We had to locate another CNC factory with a better control of machining marks and the overall cost has increased.



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At around 2kg or 4lb, that huge weight is our ways of reducing the size and inconsistency of the echo chamber.
Weight is tightened with four screws on the left and right, and the LED diffuser is hiding between the bottom case and the weight and gently glows as ambient light,
with the help of the daughterboard. This is probably the most subtle part of the design that combines functionality and appearance.
Lastly, we centered and lowered the USB-C socket according to your opinions in the last round of IC/GB post.


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Oh the cherry on top, yeah itís the famous jelly brand that yíall must have heard about, gotta pay the homage.



Specifications:

Layout
Solder - standard ANSI, stepped capslock, tsangan, ISO, split backspace


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Hotswap - two hotswap sockets to support both standard and stepped capslock, standard ANSI + 1.75 right shift

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Angle: 7 degrees
Size: 327*145*39 mm or 12.87*5.71*1.54 inches
Front height: 22mm or 0.87inches
Material: alu for case and optional plate, pc for standard plate, brass for weight, and silicone for gaskets&diffuser
Surface processing: electrophoresis and anodization for the case and PVD for weight
Color: Dewdrop, Ruby, Navy, Ink, Sage - mid cases are all grey
PCB: VIA compatible(QMK powered), USB-C (c2c cable compatible), and no BT or per key light




To-do:

Sound tests/reviews: see top
Photos for other colors: updated
Updated hotswappable layout: done
Confirming sale date
GB post

Please find us on Discord, Instagram or Reddit

« Last Edit: Thu, 15 April 2021, 10:27:15 by OwLab »

Offline dimo

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[IC] Jelly Epoch - 75% and in-stock, coming in April
« Reply #1 on: Fri, 19 March 2021, 16:47:34 »
groovy. well thought out board :)
might want to add pictures of the side since itís quite unique
« Last Edit: Fri, 19 March 2021, 16:52:19 by dimo »

Offline OwLab

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Re: [IC] Jelly Epoch - 75% and in-stock, coming in April
« Reply #2 on: Fri, 19 March 2021, 16:53:03 »
groovy. well thought out board :)
might want to add pictures of the side since itís quite unique

sure, once I am done with the Reddit post.

Offline kuro0renji

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Re: [IC] Jelly Epoch - 75% and in-stock, coming in April
« Reply #3 on: Fri, 19 March 2021, 17:02:54 »
Oh man! Hopefully I would be fast enough grabbing one during in-stock sale.
« Last Edit: Fri, 19 March 2021, 17:06:05 by kuro0renji »

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Re: [IC] Jelly Epoch - 75% and in-stock, coming in April
« Reply #4 on: Fri, 19 March 2021, 17:13:29 »
umm, this is cool... I guess.

Offline OwLab

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Re: [IC] Jelly Epoch - 75% and in-stock, coming in April
« Reply #5 on: Fri, 19 March 2021, 17:15:33 »
groovy. well thought out board :)
might want to add pictures of the side since itís quite unique

here's the album with more pics :)

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Re: [IC] Jelly Epoch - 75% and in-stock, coming in April
« Reply #6 on: Fri, 19 March 2021, 17:28:19 »
10003: payment failed


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Re: [IC] Jelly Epoch - 75% and in-stock, coming in April
« Reply #7 on: Fri, 19 March 2021, 17:29:09 »
Love the subtle board underglow, gonna keep an eye on this.

Offline Ustinj

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Re: [IC] Jelly Epoch - 75% and in-stock, coming in April
« Reply #8 on: Fri, 19 March 2021, 17:37:54 »
Looks thoughtful. Voice65 looked like a great success and great keyboard.

GLWIC!

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Re: [IC] Jelly Epoch - 75% and in-stock, coming in April
« Reply #9 on: Fri, 19 March 2021, 17:39:36 »
If ISO-support is intended, you are missing split left shift

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Re: [IC] Jelly Epoch - 75% and in-stock, coming in April
« Reply #10 on: Fri, 19 March 2021, 17:53:06 »
looks and sounds amazing!! Loved the voice65 though I couldn't get it since I had a D65 already ordered, but I will still be keeping up to date with your releases.

Offline OwLab

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Re: [IC] Jelly Epoch - 75% and in-stock, coming in April
« Reply #11 on: Fri, 19 March 2021, 18:41:46 »
If ISO-support is intended, you are missing split left shift

yeah that's why we only said ISO-Enter instead of full ISO.

Offline OwLab

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Re: [IC] Jelly Epoch - 75% and in-stock, coming in April
« Reply #12 on: Fri, 19 March 2021, 18:42:50 »
10003: payment failed

it was fixed in the 2nd and 3rd round
PayPal saved the day

Offline OwLab

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Re: [IC] Jelly Epoch - 75% and in-stock, coming in April
« Reply #13 on: Fri, 19 March 2021, 18:55:19 »
looks and sounds amazing!! Loved the voice65 though I couldn't get it since I had a D65 already ordered, but I will still be keeping up to date with your releases.

appreciated!

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[IC] Jelly Epoch - 75% and in-stock, coming in April
« Reply #14 on: Fri, 19 March 2021, 19:37:31 »
No split shift :(

looks sick btw


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Re: [IC] Jelly Epoch - 75% and in-stock, coming in April
« Reply #15 on: Fri, 19 March 2021, 19:50:02 »
Hawt

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Re: [IC] Jelly Epoch - 75% and in-stock, coming in April
« Reply #16 on: Fri, 19 March 2021, 19:54:37 »
yes! A 75% without ****ing exploded arrow keys. THANK YOU. Will try to score one.

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Re: [IC] Jelly Epoch - 75% and in-stock, coming in April
« Reply #17 on: Fri, 19 March 2021, 20:01:31 »
yes! A 75% without ****ing exploded arrow keys. THANK YOU. Will try to score one.

bear in mind it's an in-stock sale with lots of units. Please join us in the discord server for the latest and greatest :)

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Re: [IC] Jelly Epoch - 75% and in-stock, coming in April
« Reply #18 on: Fri, 19 March 2021, 21:51:19 »
any sample picture of the Ruby one?

Offline OwLab

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Re: [IC] Jelly Epoch - 75% and in-stock, coming in April
« Reply #19 on: Fri, 19 March 2021, 22:28:30 »
any sample picture of the Ruby one?

we are waiting for other colors to finish coloring
if you want a red color sample, here it is.

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Re: [IC] Jelly Epoch - 75% and in-stock, coming in April
« Reply #20 on: Fri, 19 March 2021, 23:02:33 »
This look really nice. Could you add some side profile shots?

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Re: [IC] Jelly Epoch - 75% and in-stock, coming in April
« Reply #21 on: Fri, 19 March 2021, 23:06:59 »
that daughterboard is a loooooooooooooooooooooooong boy
This and the swiss cheese keyboard is the next generation of keyboards

Offline OwLab

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Re: [IC] Jelly Epoch - 75% and in-stock, coming in April
« Reply #22 on: Fri, 19 March 2021, 23:16:13 »
This look really nice. Could you add some side profile shots?

Please refer to the album at the top of the post. Sorry I am not on my PC atm.

Offline OwLab

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Re: [IC] Jelly Epoch - 75% and in-stock, coming in April
« Reply #23 on: Fri, 19 March 2021, 23:17:27 »
that daughterboard is a loooooooooooooooooooooooong boy

It's more like a LED strip that happens to have a USB-C socket.  :)

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Re: [IC] Jelly Epoch - 75% and in-stock, coming in April
« Reply #24 on: Fri, 19 March 2021, 23:38:15 »
that is great! mature and balanced ,like me.

Offline OwLab

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Re: [IC] Jelly Epoch - 75% and in-stock, coming in April
« Reply #25 on: Fri, 19 March 2021, 23:39:23 »
Oh man! Hopefully I would be fast enough grabbing one during in-stock sale.

700 units = more chances ;)

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Re: [IC] Jelly Epoch - 75% and in-stock, coming in April
« Reply #26 on: Sat, 20 March 2021, 00:52:00 »
If ISO-support is intended, you are missing split left shift

yeah that's why we only said ISO-Enter instead of full ISO.
that does not make sense. no one would have any use of that combination

Offline OwLab

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Re: [IC] Jelly Epoch - 75% and in-stock, coming in April
« Reply #27 on: Sat, 20 March 2021, 04:45:26 »
If ISO-support is intended, you are missing split left shift

yeah that's why we only said ISO-Enter instead of full ISO.
that does not make sense. no one would have any use of that combination

new keyboard-layout:
https://imgur.com/sXv3N8G
« Last Edit: Sat, 20 March 2021, 09:58:12 by OwLab »

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Re: [IC] Jelly Epoch - 75% and in-stock, coming in April
« Reply #28 on: Sat, 20 March 2021, 04:55:14 »
Thank you! Now it's golden!

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Re: [IC] Jelly Epoch - 75% and in-stock, coming in April
« Reply #29 on: Sat, 20 March 2021, 05:07:35 »
yeess I am very interested, finally without the ugly exploded arrows!

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Re: [IC] Jelly Epoch - 75% and in-stock, coming in April
« Reply #30 on: Sat, 20 March 2021, 07:04:50 »
Would be nice to see some boards in the hands of other streamers. Nothing wrong with the current ones, but I pretty much already guess what switches are going to be used and therefore how itís going to sound.

Offline OwLab

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Re: [IC] Jelly Epoch - 75% and in-stock, coming in April
« Reply #31 on: Sat, 20 March 2021, 09:45:23 »
Would be nice to see some boards in the hands of other streamers. Nothing wrong with the current ones, but I pretty much already guess what switches are going to be used and therefore how itís going to sound.

That's true. Our promo partners were recommended by our community members in the Discord server. We'll put this into consideration next time.

Offline OwLab

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Re: [IC] Jelly Epoch - 75% and in-stock, coming in April
« Reply #32 on: Sat, 20 March 2021, 09:58:56 »
yeess I am very interested, finally without the ugly exploded arrows!

yeah we prefer blockers instead of exploded arrows to isolates the arrows

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Re: [IC] Jelly Epoch - 75% and in-stock, coming in April
« Reply #33 on: Sat, 20 March 2021, 10:35:53 »
Would be nice to see some boards in the hands of other streamers. Nothing wrong with the current ones, but I pretty much already guess what switches are going to be used and therefore how itís going to sound.

That's true. Our promo partners were recommended by our community members in the Discord server. We'll put this into consideration next time.
Yeah and it makes sense in many ways :) Theyíre all some of the bigger streamers. But also very US oriented. A bigger one that streams EU friendly times for example would be Topclack / Jae.

(And me but Iím still a relatively small streamer :P)

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Re: [IC] Jelly Epoch - 75% and in-stock, coming in April
« Reply #34 on: Sat, 20 March 2021, 11:01:31 »
You found my alley and you went right up in it  :thumb: :p

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Re: [IC] Jelly Epoch - 75% and in-stock, coming in April
« Reply #35 on: Sat, 20 March 2021, 11:06:26 »
Been looking for a good 75% to replace my Keychron K8. This looks like it could fit the bill! Keeping an eye on this one. Good luck!

Offline OwLab

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Re: [IC] Jelly Epoch - 75% and in-stock, coming in April
« Reply #36 on: Sat, 20 March 2021, 13:43:02 »
Would be nice to see some boards in the hands of other streamers. Nothing wrong with the current ones, but I pretty much already guess what switches are going to be used and therefore how itís going to sound.

That's true. Our promo partners were recommended by our community members in the Discord server. We'll put this into consideration next time.
Yeah and it makes sense in many ways :) Theyíre all some of the bigger streamers. But also very US oriented. A bigger one that streams EU friendly times for example would be Topclack / Jae.

(And me but Iím still a relatively small streamer :P)

yeah over 90% of our last sale went to US hence we put more focus on that. Def considering more EU exposure in next projects. We'll try to arrange some PST early morning stream to accommodate the EU audiences. Least we could do.

Offline OwLab

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Re: [IC] Jelly Epoch - 75% and in-stock, coming in April
« Reply #37 on: Sat, 20 March 2021, 14:34:25 »
Been looking for a good 75% to replace my Keychron K8. This looks like it could fit the bill! Keeping an eye on this one. Good luck!

Thank you very much! April is right around the corner.

Offline OwLab

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Re: [IC] Jelly Epoch - 75% and in-stock, coming in April
« Reply #38 on: Sat, 20 March 2021, 16:52:31 »
You found my alley and you went right up in it  :thumb: :p

glad to hear that ! welcome aboard :P

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[IC] Jelly Epoch - 75% and in-stock, coming in April
« Reply #39 on: Sat, 20 March 2021, 19:21:48 »
Curious question - if you're spending all this effort to make a nice springy board and plate design, why have plate/PCB foam that will negate all the benefits of a springy plate?

Where's the plate flexing into other than the soft foam?
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Offline herfalerf

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Re: [IC] Jelly Epoch - 75% and in-stock, coming in April
« Reply #40 on: Sat, 20 March 2021, 23:49:45 »
I think this is really interesting.  The voice65 was unique, but came at a time for me when I was currently waiting on 2 other 65s that whos designs I preferred.  I am not fully sold on the aesthetics of this board yet, but I really really like how you guy detailed your design decisions.  I do agree with others in that I wish it was sold without foam. 

Offline OwLab

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Re: [IC] Jelly Epoch - 75% and in-stock, coming in April
« Reply #41 on: Sun, 21 March 2021, 00:04:30 »
I think this is really interesting.  The voice65 was unique, but came at a time for me when I was currently waiting on 2 other 65s that whos designs I preferred.  I am not fully sold on the aesthetics of this board yet, but I really really like how you guy detailed your design decisions.  I do agree with others in that I wish it was sold without foam.

Foam is an acoustic-based decision rather than a typing feeling oriented one.
It is totally ok to build without the plate. According to our tests, the entire plate+foam+pcb combo is still quite springy as a whole and it provides a tad of consistency to the sound without giving up too much on they flexy feeling.
« Last Edit: Sun, 21 March 2021, 00:48:59 by OwLab »

Offline OwLab

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Re: [IC] Jelly Epoch - 75% and in-stock, coming in April
« Reply #42 on: Sun, 21 March 2021, 00:58:31 »
Curious question - if you're spending all this effort to make a nice springy board and plate design, why have plate/PCB foam that will negate all the benefits of a springy plate?

Where's the plate flexing into other than the soft foam?

Instead of aiming at a flexy plate or PCB separately, we believed it is necessary to look at the plate + pcb together and make the entire thing bouncy. With that said, foam is an acoustic-oriented accessory which can be leave out during the build. We just think it sounds better that way while stlll maintaining springy enough.

Offline OwLab

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Re: [IC] Jelly Epoch - 75% and in-stock, coming in April
« Reply #43 on: Sun, 21 March 2021, 11:41:56 »
If ISO-support is intended, you are missing split left shift

update : although we didn't have the intention to bring full-iso, we have received suggestions ( like yours) so that we think it's necessary to add one in. Please find the new layout in the post :)

Offline Applet

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Re: [IC] Jelly Epoch - 75% and in-stock, coming in April
« Reply #44 on: Sun, 21 March 2021, 16:42:36 »
If ISO-support is intended, you are missing split left shift

update : although we didn't have the intention to bring full-iso, we have received suggestions ( like yours) so that we think it's necessary to add one in. Please find the new layout in the post :)
Great news :D

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Re: [IC] Jelly Epoch - 75% and in-stock, coming in April
« Reply #45 on: Sun, 21 March 2021, 21:15:41 »
Are the taller front height and higher typing degree intended to be more comfortable than that of the Voice65?

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Re: [IC] Jelly Epoch - 75% and in-stock, coming in April
« Reply #46 on: Sun, 21 March 2021, 21:42:12 »
Man, it's amazing how you are able to do in-stock sales so frequently. I have bought a few boards before the Voice65 and still not gotten any of them yet, but you are already ready to deliver another 700 units on a completely new board. I really don't know how you do it, big props.


75% isn't my favorite layout, and I'm not a fan of the 1u blocker above the arrow keys, but nonetheless, I like the Voice too much to pass up on this board.

Offline OwLab

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Re: [IC] Jelly Epoch - 75% and in-stock, coming in April
« Reply #47 on: Sun, 21 March 2021, 21:50:33 »
Are the taller front height and higher typing degree intended to be more comfortable than that of the Voice65?

Our team thinks 6 degree on Voice65% and the low front height is good for users that likes to type without a wrist rest

with that said,
1. a higher front can accomondate people that want to use a wrist rest while most people would do just fine without
2. the angle is larger at 7 degree so flat height keycaps will have a better typing experience

comfortable is quite subjective and we are looking to make more people happy
if you perfer a higher typing angle then this is a better choice than Voice65%
hope this answer your question :)

Offline OwLab

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Re: [IC] Jelly Epoch - 75% and in-stock, coming in April
« Reply #48 on: Sun, 21 March 2021, 21:53:48 »
Man, it's amazing how you are able to do in-stock sales so frequently. I have bought a few boards before the Voice65 and still not gotten any of them yet, but you are already ready to deliver another 700 units on a completely new board. I really don't know how you do it, big props.


75% isn't my favorite layout, and I'm not a fan of the 1u blocker above the arrow keys, but nonetheless, I like the Voice too much to pass up on this board.

Thank you very much for your support! We have learnt a lot from last sale so this project wouldn't reach this stage without your suggestions and feedbacks from Voice65%.
In-stock will always be our preferred method of sale and this project actually started before Voice65% was sold.
We are simply pushing the usual gb timeframe up and start the promo of our new projects when it's about to end production. :)

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Re: [IC] Jelly Epoch - 75% and in-stock, coming in April
« Reply #49 on: Mon, 22 March 2021, 01:38:38 »
Like the idea of this and going to try and pick one up, got a voice65 and love it. The one thing I will say is the tag thing on the left side just gives me anxiety, lol I can see it getting hung up on stuff easily.