Author Topic: [FS] "old" Cherry MX Blacks - Cherry Stabilizers (Read 21444 times)

whiskytango · « **Reply #100 on:** Wed, 24 July 2013, 16:00:52 »

Interesting. I did not notice this when desoldering them, but then again I was in hurry-up mode. I wish I could tell you exactly which board(s) those came off of, but I was just desoldering them, sorting the switch housing types out, and throwing them into a pile. I have never heard of WYSE boards using dark grays, but you're right, those don't exactly look black. Never had any dark grays in my possession (that I knew of) to compare to though. I understood though that dark grays would be noticeably stiffer than a black.

Good eye though. Definitely will be paying more attention now as I sort switches.

Photoelectric · « **Reply #101 on:** Wed, 24 July 2013, 16:03:06 »

I hope someone who's seen them will pitch in. I did not expect them, so I opened at least one of the questionable switches and one of the definite gray switches and took out the springs into the big spring pile (for cleaning) before I realized that I had a gray stem on my hands. I tried to look for an obviously different spring to put back in, but, I couldn't identify one! As far as I can tell, the springs look the same. And the natural variation in color did not help--some were more silver, some were a bit oxidized. I'll have to open the other two gray switches and double-check. Could someone comment on Dark Gray springs vs. Black/Clear springs in terms of appearance?

deazncy · « **Reply #102 on:** Wed, 24 July 2013, 16:03:35 »

Are those "old" black stems the same as mx red stems? I want to replace the blue stems on my poker so I can make it mx reds, but I was wondering if those black stems were identical to that of reds so that I can just use the black stems instead of trying to find red ones.

CPTBadAss · « **Reply #103 on:** Wed, 24 July 2013, 16:05:16 »

Pretty sure the only difference between a Red and a Black switch is the spring. Stems are the same.

mashby · « **Reply #104 on:** Wed, 24 July 2013, 16:08:19 »

Quote from: Photoelectric on Wed, 24 July 2013, 16:03:06

I hope someone who's seen them will pitch in. I did not expect them, so I opened at least one of the questionable switches and one of the definite gray switches and took out the springs into the big spring pile (for cleaning) before I realized that I had a gray stem on my hands. I tried to look for an obviously different spring to put back in, but, I couldn't identify one! As far as I can tell, the springs look the same. And the natural variation in color did not help--some were more silver, some were a bit oxidized. I'll have to open the other two gray switches and double-check. Could someone comment on Dark Gray springs vs. Black/Clear springs in terms of appearance?

I added Dark Grey (Linear) switches to my MX-Black Poker and they are noticeably heavier than an MX-Black switch. I only have two left, which I plan on using on another board, otherwise I'd send one to you.

Below is a photo of what they look like.

Key Caps & Switches by Michael Ashby, on Flickr

whiskytango · « **Reply #105 on:** Wed, 24 July 2013, 16:10:24 »

Quote from: deazncy on Wed, 24 July 2013, 16:03:35

Are those "old" black stems the same as mx red stems? I want to replace the blue stems on my poker so I can make it mx reds, but I was wondering if those black stems were identical to that of reds so that I can just use the black stems instead of trying to find red ones.

As far as I know, yes they are identical. I have done exactly what you said, used stems from some old blacks from a WYSE and springs from a blue to make a red. They call this a "ghetto red". I put them side by side with some modern reds and couldn't tell a real difference. What little difference I could tell I think had more to do with the fact that the reds were on a Leopold and the ghetto reds were on a Rosewill.

If all you need are the stems, and you don't need your blue stems, I will trade you, stem for stem. I like blues with black springs...

Photoelectric · « **Reply #106 on:** Wed, 24 July 2013, 16:11:21 »

Thank you--yours are much lighter in color! I can see a clear difference. So then mine are not Dark Grays but use some uncommon and odd gray plastic for Black stems... which is just confusing!!!

BlueBär · « **Reply #107 on:** Wed, 24 July 2013, 16:23:56 »

To compare the springs maybe just press them against each other (one stem against the the other).

Photoelectric · « **Reply #108 on:** Wed, 24 July 2013, 16:31:10 »

Quote from: BlueBär on Wed, 24 July 2013, 16:23:56

To compare the springs maybe just press them against each other (one stem against the the other).

Yeah, I could do that. But the most likely answer is that my odd gray switches are just plain MX Blacks from some random batch that used dark gray plastic in place of black. The switches feel the same, and according to Mashby, I would notice the difference with Dark Grays being quite stiff. Maybe they are some sort of "transition" switches, when the change was happening with the logo from "vintage" Blacks to "modern" Blacks.

MKULTRA · « **Reply #109 on:** Wed, 24 July 2013, 17:25:30 »

Got my keys today! Look great on my Filco. The colors were nearly an exact match, not even noticeable. Thanks man.

JPG · « **Reply #110 on:** Wed, 24 July 2013, 19:21:56 »

I got my switches today at the post. Thx a lot Whiskytango!

Also, first thing I did was to take 2 switches out and "test" them in my hands since the only switch I ever tried is the brown on my Filcos. And the second thing I did was to open a switch, see what it looked like, and change the spring for a 65g spring I had (got tem from someone on GH, and I think he told me they were from originative or similar).

And the first thing I realised is that both springs are VERY different. First, the stock "vintage" spring is shorter, has fewer coils and is maybe darker in color (probably because it's old). So, since I have no stock blue/red/brown spring, or a stock black "modern" black spring, I would be very happy if anyone having all 3 of them could take a picture of them besides one another?

I tried to take a picture of my 2 springs together, but my camera sucks hard and was unable to do so...

Photoelectric · « **Reply #111 on:** Wed, 24 July 2013, 19:23:28 »

By the way, those springs regain their shine and clean up nice if you put them into a small glass filled with 91% alcohol for a few minutes

Not completely back to silver, but much cleaner after the dip.

do_Og@n · « **Reply #112 on:** Wed, 24 July 2013, 20:36:18 »

I don't think those are Dark Grey's. They might be from a different plastic batch of vintage black stems though.

Dark Grey's are as firm as normal grey's or greens but linear (as others have stated).

Here are some pics for comparison:

Neal · « **Reply #113 on:** Thu, 25 July 2013, 09:11:40 »

Got mine today, thanks!

codyeatworld · « **Reply #114 on:** Thu, 25 July 2013, 17:35:46 »

Got mine yesterday, thanks very much sir! The set is very clean and a great match to the moogle.

I just need a wyse tsangan!

nilpt · « **Reply #115 on:** Thu, 01 August 2013, 16:30:21 »

Set 22 arrived.
Thank you very much.

iAmAhab · « **Reply #116 on:** Fri, 09 August 2013, 16:46:03 »

Just wanted you to know I got my stuff and everything was in good condition.

j2c8w6f8 · « **Reply #117 on:** Wed, 04 September 2013, 05:01:16 »

AGmurdercore · « **Reply #118 on:** Wed, 04 September 2013, 05:11:53 »

YGPM

devilockz · « **Reply #119 on:** Wed, 04 September 2013, 05:40:41 »

can i have the WYSE keycaps set #6 ? and can you quote me the price for shipping to M'sia?

thank you so much

devilockz · « **Reply #120 on:** Mon, 23 September 2013, 23:50:11 »

hey bro, got my package today. and thanks for the extra gift. Great Seller.

5 thumbs up for u.

MOZ · « **Reply #121 on:** Tue, 24 September 2013, 05:24:33 »

Any stabs left?

whiskytango · « **Reply #122 on:** Tue, 24 September 2013, 09:32:25 »

Quote from: MOZ on Tue, 24 September 2013, 05:24:33

Any stabs left?

I have a few stabs and switches left...

r3dx · « **Reply #123 on:** Tue, 24 September 2013, 11:11:58 »

Just submitted an order

r3dx · « **Reply #124 on:** Tue, 24 September 2013, 19:27:43 »

Invoice paid.

BliTzKiN · « **Reply #125 on:** Sat, 28 September 2013, 07:44:00 »

josh · « **Reply #126 on:** Sat, 28 September 2013, 08:23:44 »

Quote from: Photoelectric on Wed, 24 July 2013, 15:54:26

Ok, are these Dark Grays? When testing them (unmounted, pressing with fingers), I can't really tell a difference between them and regular MX Blacks. Could be a small difference that I'd feel once they are mounted--I don't know.

Pure Black stems are on the left side: front, and one far back. Middle left is undecided... It's not pure black, but also quite dark to be gray...

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I have 2 more of the ones like the "undecided" switch. 3 total of the obviously gray ones.

well i have some... ;D
and also have some pics for you

Photoelectric · « **Reply #127 on:** Sat, 28 September 2013, 10:51:39 »

Interesting

I find these gray-black stems a bit more gritty than "normal" black stems, although my sample size is small.

mashby · « **Reply #128 on:** Fri, 18 October 2013, 18:16:28 »

Got the key caps in safe and sound and thrilled with how good they look. Thank you whiskey tango

WYSE Close Up by cpkey, on Flickr

Really thrilled with the "thick" set to see how different they are from the standard SP thin series.

WYSE Thick vs Thin by cpkey, on Flickr

Pacifist · « **Reply #129 on:** Sun, 01 December 2013, 01:28:36 »

Sorry to bump an old thread but what's the functional difference between plate and pcb mounted stabs?

do_Og@n · « **Reply #130 on:** Sun, 01 December 2013, 01:46:52 »

Quote from: Pacifist on Sun, 01 December 2013, 01:28:36

Sorry to bump an old thread but what's the functional difference between plate and pcb mounted stabs?

Plate mounted ones don't have those two plastic pieces on the bottom and they can only be mounted to a plate. The PCB mounted ones have to use special/specific PCB's that have the cutouts for those two plastics pieces. But, you can also cut those off to turn them into Plate mounted.

Hope that helps

Pacifist · « **Reply #131 on:** Sun, 01 December 2013, 02:14:31 »

Quote from: do_Og@n on Sun, 01 December 2013, 01:46:52

Quote from: Pacifist on Sun, 01 December 2013, 01:28:36
Sorry to bump an old thread but what's the functional difference between plate and pcb mounted stabs?

Plate mounted ones don't have those two plastic pieces on the bottom and they can only be mounted to a plate. The PCB mounted ones have to use special/specific PCB's that have the cutouts for those two plastics pieces. But, you can also cut those off to turn them into Plate mounted.

Hope that helps

thanks!

I need a pcb mounted cherry stab, so this won't cut it as it doesn't have the things that poke into the pcb

whiskytango · « **Reply #132 on:** Sun, 01 December 2013, 21:54:15 »

Quote from: Pacifist on Sun, 01 December 2013, 02:14:31

thanks!

I need a pcb mounted cherry stab, so this won't cut it as it doesn't have the things that poke into the pcb

That is correct. Sorry, I don't have any more PCB stabs available right now. Plate only.

dustinhxc · « **Reply #133 on:** Mon, 02 December 2013, 00:22:13 »

Sweet ive been looking for blacks, thanks man

dustinhxc · « **Reply #134 on:** Sat, 07 December 2013, 13:47:28 »

Thanks for the switches man!

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Author Topic: [FS] "old" Cherry MX Blacks - Cherry Stabilizers (Read 21444 times)