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[IC] MW Pavilion | UK & OCE Vendors!
« on: Tue, 03 May 2022, 16:44:19 »



GB: September 2022



iS0 by Illuminati Keyboards




MilkyWay Pavilion is inspired by the beautiful butterflies and moths that flutter around butterfly pavilions. An elegant serif typeface and custom mod icons provide an elegant feel, while the combination of warm and cool greys allow almost any accent color to look right at home. Pavilion offers three accents from famous insects for you to pick your own butterfly or moth: a bright orange monarch butterfly, a golden yellow death’s-head hawk moth, and a pale green luna moth.




All novelty illustrations created by stellaidoscope#0666.



Petrichor by Alchemist Keyboards
Fuji65 by CMM Studio
M60-A by Rama Works
The Paragon by Artemis Design Studio
MB 44 by MelonBred
Phoenix WK by Cable Car Designs

Petrichor by Alchemist Keyboards
Fuji65 by CMM Studio
M60-A by Rama Works
Phoenix WKL by Cable Car Designs
Cypher by Cable Car Designs
Rotor by PopSmoke


All deskmat illustrations created by LiquidFaeStudios.
Tarot Deskmat | D60 Lite by KBDFans & Phoenix NUM by Cable Car Designs
Flower Deskmat | Maya by Vulcan


Estimated Delivery: Q1 2023
China: MilkyWay
US: Mechs & Co.
CA: Kanatakeys
EU: EloquentClicks
UK: Prototypist
SEA: ZionStudios
OCE: Allcaps
India: Stackskb


TBD
I am aiming for a $90-95 base kit.


Q: How were the colors selected?
A: Colors were selected by comparing pantones to sustainably sourced insect specimens, as shown in the 3 photographs at the top of this post. I would prefer not to release the Pantone color codes to combat cloners; however, if the community expresses significant concerns regarding the colors I am willing to post the color codes. Photographs of color samples will be available before GB.
Q: These lines on the novelties look thin, how confident are you in MW’s ability to produce these?
A: All accent novelties were created with a line thickness of 0.15 mm, and test photos of prior mod novelties with those restrictions are available below of regular and reverse dyesub. Based on how good the regular dyesub tests are, I am confident in MW’s ability to produce the regular dyesub novelties. Initial testing of the reverse dyesub mod novelties was a little blurry, so we’ve revised the reverse dyesub novelties to a line thickness of 0.18-0.20 mm for the reverse keys. I will be receiving samples before GB so any further tweaks that need to be made will occur after seeing samples.
Click MORE to see images of the tests. Note that the dyesub tests are old versions of the novelties and are NOT properly aligned. The Reverse dyesub tests are up to date.
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Q: I’ve heard that dyesub doesn’t work well with greys, can MW make these colors?
A: Due to the high amount of contrast on the mods and alphas I do believe MW can make these colors in dyesub. If there are issues I have prepared a contingency plan to use slightly different colors that shouldn’t change the feel of the set but should avoid issues of greys in dyesub turning red.
Q: Why are there accent ansi enters in base but not iso enters?
A: MW has a significant MOQ for child kits that have colors not in the base kit, and because this is an accent-focused set, I included R1 Esc keys and Ansi enter keys of each color in the base kit. My understanding is that offering four iso enters is not possible with MW’s standard packaging and would significantly increase prices, so I did not include them in the base kit.
Q: Why are mod novelties in every accent kit?
This was initially designed as a “pick your butterfly/moth” set, so mod novelties are included in each accent kit, which function as combined novelty and accent kits. However, I understand that some customers may want to purchase multiple accent kits. If enough people indicate on the IC form that they want to purchase multiple accent kits I will split the mod novelties from the accent kits and put them in their own kit.
Q: Does this set support 40s boards?
A: 40s users can get nearly full coverage of all 40s and orthos boards by purchasing the base kit and the 40s kit. Ortho accents (R3 & R4 1u enter) and 40s accents (R3 1.5u & 1.75u enter) are provided in each accent kit. After discussing the kitting in the 40s discord server, I will to move all 40s accents (with novelties) and combine them with the 40s kit if the price is right, and will be get quotes for both options.
Click MORE to see KLEs of current and alternate kitting for quotes.
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Please reach out to me on discord if you are interested in a collaboration (Cylent#8718).
I am currently looking for a cable and metal artisan collaboration, and a couple of resin artisans.


Nolsia for helping me start this project
Erin from LiquidFaeStudios and Stellaidoscope for their amazing artwork and illustrations
NoPunIn10Did and DrHigsby for their help with kitting
SpikedSynapse, ImperfectLink, Mark The Weeb, Maxvoltar, BobaSweatandTears & more for their feedback on designs and renders!




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Offline Cylent

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Re: [IC] MW Pavilion | A New Set Emerges
« Reply #1 on: Tue, 03 May 2022, 16:45:15 »
Updates:
05/07/22 | Alt Base Kit Question added to IC form
05/13/22 | Kitting Changes! (Click More to see all kitting changes)
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-Alternate Base Kit with Cherry-style legends added
-Removed Numpad Kit and placed Numpad in both base kits.
-Separated Mod Novelties from Accent Kits.
-Added 3 R1 Novelties to Mod Novelties.
-Removed 40s accents from accent kits
-Added 40s accent novelties to 40s Kit
-Removed 1u shift from Base and added to 40s
-Added R1 Side-profile butterfly/moth novelties to accent kits
-Added Cherry-style accent arrows to accent kits


05/18/22 | Added Cherry Legend Board Renders
06/06/22 | Updated 40s Kitting
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-Changed serif icons in 40s Kit to Mod novelties.

06/13/22 | Full Vendors Announced!
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Re: [IC] MW Pavilion | A New Set Emerges
« Reply #2 on: Tue, 03 May 2022, 17:04:06 »
Looks Great! GLWIC :thumb:

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Re: [IC] MW Pavilion | A New Set Emerges
« Reply #3 on: Tue, 03 May 2022, 18:57:40 »
Font isn't my favorite, but I like the accents GLWIC  :thumb:
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Re: [IC] MW Pavilion | A New Set Emerges
« Reply #4 on: Wed, 04 May 2022, 08:58:42 »
I LOVE the idea of a muted set that can match any colors accents.

Add a morpho and you will be getting so much money out of me holy ****. (Morphos are my favorite butterflies, followed directly by monachs and luna moths...)

(im in danger)

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Re: [IC] MW Pavilion | A New Set Emerges
« Reply #5 on: Wed, 04 May 2022, 20:59:37 »
Ooh, great set! GLWIC!

Offline Heinze

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Re: [IC] MW Pavilion | A New Set Emerges
« Reply #6 on: Wed, 04 May 2022, 23:32:17 »
When I started to read this thread, I thought 'man do I need a butterfly/moth based set?'
Well, I do. Certainly need this mint set.

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Re: [IC] MW Pavilion | A New Set Emerges
« Reply #7 on: Thu, 05 May 2022, 11:42:00 »
Thank you all for the kind words. For those who would prefer a standard font/mods (aka cherry style) I am not against an alternate base kit that meets those preferences. Please fill out the IC form with that feedback if you'd prefer cherry style legends. 

Below are newly-made tests of the reworked mod novelties. From what I can see I am pleased with the quality and crispness of the lines, and do not believe further revisions are necessary.


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Re: [IC] MW Pavilion | Cherry-style alt base kit IC question added!
« Reply #8 on: Sat, 07 May 2022, 13:16:36 »
Alt Base Kit Question added to IC form
A number of people have expressed interest in an alternate base kit with cherry-style legends. A new question on the IC form has been added to gather interest in cherry-style legends for MW Pavilion. See an example render below.


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Re: [IC] MW Pavilion | Cherry-style alt base kit IC question added!
« Reply #9 on: Sat, 07 May 2022, 13:48:24 »
Alt Base Kit Question added to IC form
A number of people have expressed interest in an alternate base kit with cherry-style legends. A new question on the IC form has been added to gather interest in cherry-style legends for MW Pavilion. See an example render below.

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Great job on this!!! Accent is :chef :-*

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Re: [IC] MW Pavilion | Kitting Update! | IC Form v2
« Reply #10 on: Fri, 13 May 2022, 16:03:27 »
05/13/22 | Kitting Changes! | IC Form v2
-Alternate Base Kit with Cherry-style legends added
-Removed Numpad Kit and placed Numpad in both base kits.
-Separated Mod Novelties from Accent Kits.
-Added 3 R1 Novelties to Mod Novelties.
-Removed 40s accents from accent kits
-Added 40s accent novelties to 40s Kit
-Removed 1u shift from Base and added to 40s
-Added R1 Side-profile butterfly/moth novelties to accent kits
-Added Cherry-style accent arrows to accent kits


Updated Renders with the Cherry-style legends coming in the next few days!
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Re: [IC] MW Pavilion | Kitting Update! | IC Form v2
« Reply #11 on: Tue, 17 May 2022, 19:53:47 »
No SEA vendor?

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Re: [IC] MW Pavilion | Updated Kitting & Renders
« Reply #12 on: Wed, 18 May 2022, 16:26:13 »
Board Renders with Cherry-style Legends Added!

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Re: [IC] MW Pavilion | Updated Kitting & Renders
« Reply #13 on: Sat, 21 May 2022, 04:42:13 »
Appreciate the Cherry legends, makes the novelties stand out more. Those ISO enters really make me regret ANSI  :'(

Would you consider a full novelties 40s kit so it matches the Cherry base as well?
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Re: [IC] MW Pavilion | Updated Kitting & Renders
« Reply #14 on: Sun, 22 May 2022, 10:45:59 »
No SEA vendor?

I am in the process of finding and confirming vendors, and expect to have at least one vendor that can ship to the Philippines/SEA region. Stay tuned for updates.


Appreciate the Cherry legends, makes the novelties stand out more. Those ISO enters really make me regret ANSI  :'(

Would you consider a full novelties 40s kit so it matches the Cherry base as well?

I'm not entirely sure what you mean - if you mean replace all of the mod key legends in the 40s kit with novelties from the mod novelties kit, then my initial concern would be the high number of repeated illustrations across the mods. There are only 11 unique illustrations in the mod novelties kit, and the accent novelties cannot be turned into mod novelties (see FAQ for explanation on this).

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Re: [IC] MW Pavilion | Updated Kitting & Renders
« Reply #15 on: Sun, 22 May 2022, 13:07:38 »
Appreciate the Cherry legends, makes the novelties stand out more. Those ISO enters really make me regret ANSI  :'(

Would you consider a full novelties 40s kit so it matches the Cherry base as well?

I'm not entirely sure what you mean - if you mean replace all of the mod key legends in the 40s kit with novelties from the mod novelties kit, then my initial concern would be the high number of repeated illustrations across the mods. There are only 11 unique illustrations in the mod novelties kit, and the accent novelties cannot be turned into mod novelties (see FAQ for explanation on this).

Ah, yeah, that’s what I meant. Since the 40s kit seems to have only 9(?) different mod legends I figured it might be possible, but no harm if it’s not. Just seemed a good way to have 40s support for both bases in the one kit.
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Re: [IC] MW Pavilion | Updated Kitting & Renders
« Reply #16 on: Mon, 23 May 2022, 18:26:23 »
Appreciate the Cherry legends, makes the novelties stand out more. Those ISO enters really make me regret ANSI  :'(

Would you consider a full novelties 40s kit so it matches the Cherry base as well?

I'm not entirely sure what you mean - if you mean replace all of the mod key legends in the 40s kit with novelties from the mod novelties kit, then my initial concern would be the high number of repeated illustrations across the mods. There are only 11 unique illustrations in the mod novelties kit, and the accent novelties cannot be turned into mod novelties (see FAQ for explanation on this).

Ah, yeah, that’s what I meant. Since the 40s kit seems to have only 9(?) different mod legends I figured it might be possible, but no harm if it’s not. Just seemed a good way to have 40s support for both bases in the one kit.

Thanks for the idea. I spoke to a few people in the 40s server and we'll try to see if it will be possible and/or reasonable to replace the legends of the mod keys in the 40s kit with the mod novelty illustrations, but it may take a while to rework everything. No promises that we'll be able to make the change, but we'll give it a shot. :thumb:


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Re: [IC] MW Pavilion | Updated Kitting & Renders
« Reply #17 on: Wed, 25 May 2022, 00:27:33 »
Thanks for the idea. I spoke to a few people in the 40s server and we'll try to see if it will be possible and/or reasonable to replace the legends of the mod keys in the 40s kit with the mod novelty illustrations, but it may take a while to rework everything. No promises that we'll be able to make the change, but we'll give it a shot. :thumb:

Whoa, glad to hear you’ll experiment with it! I hope it goes well, but no stress  ;D
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Re: [IC] MW Pavilion | Updated Kitting & Renders
« Reply #18 on: Fri, 27 May 2022, 13:26:35 »
Wonderful colours on this, definitely interested in a Cherry-style set and an ISO/spacebar accent kit.
Here's hoping for a UK vendor!

Quick question on this front..

Due to the high amount of contrast on the mods and alphas I do believe MW can make these colors in dyesub. If there are issues I have prepared a contingency plan to use slightly different colors that shouldn’t change the feel of the set but should avoid issues of greys in dyesub turning red.

Am I correct in assuming this will be established in prototypes before the GB goes live?
Slightly wary about colours being liable to change mid-GB (see: GMK Necro, albeit different circumstances).

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Re: [IC] MW Pavilion | Updated Kitting & Renders
« Reply #19 on: Sat, 28 May 2022, 13:01:00 »
Wonderful colours on this, definitely interested in a Cherry-style set and an ISO/spacebar accent kit.
Here's hoping for a UK vendor!

Quick question on this front..

Due to the high amount of contrast on the mods and alphas I do believe MW can make these colors in dyesub. If there are issues I have prepared a contingency plan to use slightly different colors that shouldn’t change the feel of the set but should avoid issues of greys in dyesub turning red.

Am I correct in assuming this will be established in prototypes before the GB goes live?
Slightly wary about colours being liable to change mid-GB (see: GMK Necro, albeit different circumstances).

Hi, I'm so happy you like the set  :D

I am working on a UK vendor. Regarding colors, I should receive at least a first round of color samples before the GB (the plan is sometime in August). Those initial samples should tell us pretty clearly whether the greys will cause problems, though I do not think there will be issues. If we need to make changes based on those samples it should be before the GB.
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Re: [IC] MW Pavilion | Updated Kitting & Renders
« Reply #20 on: Sun, 29 May 2022, 08:51:20 »
The colours are really neat but small nitpick: I'm afraid the butterflies on the novelties have fluttered to a happier place: https://www.emilydamstra.com/please-enough-dead-butterflies/
Those in the renders and the moths seem to be alive and kicking though.

GLWIC!

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Re: [IC] MW Pavilion | Updated Kitting & Renders
« Reply #21 on: Mon, 30 May 2022, 09:06:26 »
The colours are really neat but small nitpick: I'm afraid the butterflies on the novelties have fluttered to a happier place: https://www.emilydamstra.com/please-enough-dead-butterflies/
Those in the renders and the moths seem to be alive and kicking though.

GLWIC!

The colors are great ;D

I was aware during the design process for Pavilion that the way insect specimens look when they are pinned is different from how they look when they are alive. I disagree with the author of the article you linked that there is something inherently problematic about creating art that displays the shape of the butterfly's wings unrealistically, or that art depicting a living butterfly is the most effective way to convey its positive symbolism. There are other important considerations other than realism when creating art, including:
-The audience's ability to easily recognize the art,
-The audience's ability to connect that art to other examples of similar art in their mind, and
-The overall feeling and impact of the art.
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Re: [IC] MW Pavilion | 40s Kitting Update
« Reply #22 on: Mon, 06 June 2022, 15:02:05 »
40s Kitting Update:
The Forties kit for MW Pavilion has been redesigned to allow 40s users to chose between the Cherry and Serif fonts by using the Mod Novelties as agnostic legends. The goal is to keep this kit at $30 or less. 40s users can buy the base kit as well for a combo-kit around the price of a GMK base kit, or mix-and match the 40s with another set.

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Re: [IC] MW Pavilion | 40s Kitting Update
« Reply #23 on: Tue, 07 June 2022, 00:08:53 »
40s Kitting Update:
The Forties kit for MW Pavilion has been redesigned to allow 40s users to chose between the Cherry and Serif fonts by using the Mod Novelties as agnostic legends. The goal is to keep this kit at $30 or less. 40s users can buy the base kit as well for a combo-kit around the price of a GMK base kit, or mix-and match the 40s with another set.
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Whoa, looking good! Nice work!  :D
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Re: [IC] MW Pavilion | UK & OCE Vendors!
« Reply #24 on: Mon, 13 June 2022, 13:39:36 »
Update: Full Vendor List Announced!
China: MilkyWay
US: Mechs & Co.
CA: Kanatakeys
EU: EloquentClicks
UK: Prototypist
SEA: ZionStudios
OCE: Allcaps
India: Stackskb

A big thank you to all my vendors for agreeing to support MW Pavilion. See you at the GB in September!