Simple Questions, Simple Answers (FAQ in the OP)

[yasuo]

what mean keytravel?
what keyboard with less keytravel
and how make it?

 

[jdcarpe]

I guess it's not such a simple question after all

Keyboard is love, keyboard is life.

I just want to enjoy my feeling .

I'm in it for making hacking and engineering.

I also love to make the hack.

[margo baggins]

I guess it's not such a simple question after all

Keyboard is love, keyboard is life.

I just want to enjoy my feeling .

I'm in it for making hacking and engineering.

I also love to make the hack.

I like making hack.

[BlueBär]

what mean keytravel?
what keyboard with less keytravel
and how make it?

 

Keytravel is the distance you can press down a key. For Cherry MX that's 4mm, you could reduce it with o-rings.

I also love to make the hack.

You cheeky bugger I see what you did there! Wait I'm confused it actually might just be my font rendering... I'm confus

[dorkvader]

I also love to make the hack.

You cheeky bugger I see what you did there! Wait I'm confused it actually might just be my font rendering... I'm confus

I think he is referring to the MCHCK.

what mean keytravel?
what keyboard with less keytravel
and how make it?

 

Keytravel or "key travel" is the amount of travel between the "rest" state and the bottom out. It's usually 4mm or 4.1mm.

Alps are less at 3.7mm or so.

Scissor switch keyboards, cherry ML, and topre short throw are even less at about 2.1mm.

[HoffmanMyster]

I also love to make the hack.

You cheeky bugger I see what you did there! Wait I'm confused it actually might just be my font rendering... I'm confus

I think he is referring to the MCHCK.

I thought it was because you said "I like making hacking...", where you presumably meant "I like making, hacking,...", so he was taking a jab at that and saying he loves to make hack.  But I dunno.   

[yasuo]

what mean keytravel?
what keyboard with less keytravel
and how make it?

 

Keytravel is the distance you can press down a key. For Cherry MX that's 4mm, you could reduce it with o-rings.

i plan make less actutaion travel like this
http://www.khangfixesit.com/2012/03/mechanical-keyboard-o-ring-mod.html

what mean keytravel?
what keyboard with less keytravel
and how make it?

Keytravel or "key travel" is the amount of travel between the "rest" state and the bottom out. It's usually 4mm or 4.1mm.
Alps are less at 3.7mm or so.

Scissor switch keyboards, cherry ML, and topre short throw are even less at about 2.1mm.

i still confused key travel and acutation i think key travel when you press letter to letter )

[Melvang]

what mean keytravel?
what keyboard with less keytravel
and how make it?

 

Keytravel is the distance you can press down a key. For Cherry MX that's 4mm, you could reduce it with o-rings.

i plan make less actutaion travel like this
http://www.khangfixesit.com/2012/03/mechanical-keyboard-o-ring-mod.html

what mean keytravel?
what keyboard with less keytravel
and how make it?

Keytravel or "key travel" is the amount of travel between the "rest" state and the bottom out. It's usually 4mm or 4.1mm.
Alps are less at 3.7mm or so.

Scissor switch keyboards, cherry ML, and topre short throw are even less at about 2.1mm.

i still confused key travel and acutation i think key travel when you press letter to letter )

Key travel is from when a key is at rest to fully depressed.  Actuation is when the switch registers the keystroke.  For Cherry MX the key travel is 4mm with actuation happening at 2mm.  The Kaliah switches in the new Razer boards I believe are 3.8 or 3.7mm travel.

[Blaise170]

What is the cheapest method of converting a DIN 5 (AT) connector to USB or PS/2?

[CPTBadAss]

What is the cheapest method of converting a DIN 5 (AT) connector to USB or PS/2?

Din5 to ps/2 converter. About $2.
Ps/2 to USB converter. Think the cheapest active I've seen is $5 but mine cost around $12.

[yasuo]

what mean keytravel?
what keyboard with less keytravel
and how make it?

 

Keytravel is the distance you can press down a key. For Cherry MX that's 4mm, you could reduce it with o-rings.

i plan make less actutaion travel like this
http://www.khangfixesit.com/2012/03/mechanical-keyboard-o-ring-mod.html

what mean keytravel?
what keyboard with less keytravel
and how make it?

Keytravel or "key travel" is the amount of travel between the "rest" state and the bottom out. It's usually 4mm or 4.1mm.
Alps are less at 3.7mm or so.

Scissor switch keyboards, cherry ML, and topre short throw are even less at about 2.1mm.

i still confused key travel and acutation i think key travel when you press letter to letter )

Key travel is from when a key is at rest to fully depressed.  Actuation is when the switch registers the keystroke.  For Cherry MX the key travel is 4mm with actuation happening at 2mm.  The Kaliah switches in the new Razer boards I believe are 3.8 or 3.7mm travel.

thx but i mean like this actually btw
http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=51892.0
is there existed small cherry keycap?
and teensy only support 1 LED?

[Blaise170]

Does anyone know of a way to convert Mini-DIN-5 to PS/2? Also have one of those that I cannot connect to anything.

[BlueBär]

http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=51892.0
is there existed small cherry keycap?
and teensy only support 1 LED?

Oh so you want a smaller keycap? I don't think that exists for MX.

Does anyone know of a way to convert Mini-DIN-5 to PS/2? Also have one of those that I cannot connect to anything.

Mini-Din-5 or AT? Can you post a picture of the connector?

[yasuo]

http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=51892.0
is there existed small cherry keycap?
and teensy only support 1 LED?

Oh so you want a smaller keycap? I don't think that exists for MX.

yup ) like matias arrow keys but more wide
btw where pins led in teensy 2.0 for wire/resistor it's same with the switch and how control on/off

[dorkvader]

http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=51892.0
is there existed small cherry keycap?
and teensy only support 1 LED?

Oh so you want a smaller keycap? I don't think that exists for MX.

They exist


Problem is that mx switch is still bigger, so you can't space them as closely as matias.

[MOZ]

http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=51892.0
is there existed small cherry keycap?
and teensy only support 1 LED?

Oh so you want a smaller keycap? I don't think that exists for MX.

They exist

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Problem is that mx switch is still bigger, so you can't space them as closely as matias.

Woah! What board is that?

[dorkvader]

http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=51892.0
is there existed small cherry keycap?
and teensy only support 1 LED?

Oh so you want a smaller keycap? I don't think that exists for MX.

They exist

Show Image

Problem is that mx switch is still bigger, so you can't space them as closely as matias.

Woah! What board is that?

Pinnacle Deko fastaction keyboard.

Probably my fav keyboard with cherry switches.

album here:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/dork_vader/sets/72157641884809274/

[yasuo]

http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=51892.0
is there existed small cherry keycap?
and teensy only support 1 LED?

Oh so you want a smaller keycap? I don't think that exists for MX.

They exist

Show Image

Problem is that mx switch is still bigger, so you can't space them as closely as matias.

cool 14/15mm woulde be cool old cherry have 16mm i think

http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=51892.0
is there existed small cherry keycap?
and teensy only support 1 LED?

Oh so you want a smaller keycap? I don't think that exists for MX.

They exist

Show Image

Problem is that mx switch is still bigger, so you can't space them as closely as matias.

Woah! What board is that?

You can not just leave, before answering
or LED not really matter

[MOZ]

Really cool battlestation board. What purpose does the LED screen serve?

[yasuo]

Really cool battlestation board. What purpose does the LED screen serve?

so LED caps not really matter

[frosty]

What are the screw sizes for the poker 2? Are they easy to get? Are the sizes of washer important or do we just get roughly same sized one?

[yasuo]

What is cable have 7 wires/poles?

While I am not sure which ones use 7 specifically.  But USB 3.0 uses 9.  This link is for all 7 wire din connectors.  There are other styles as well.  Many to choose from if you aren't to picky about size and such.

din quite hard find btw, i try rj45 too big, is there other choice shape like usb

[Melvang]

What is cable have 7 wires/poles?

While I am not sure which ones use 7 specifically.  But USB 3.0 uses 9.  This link is for all 7 wire din connectors.  There are other styles as well.  Many to choose from if you aren't to picky about size and such.

din quite hard find btw, i try rj45 too big, is there other choice shape like usb

You could take a look at DB-9 connectors.  Shouldn't be that tough to find.

[yasuo]

What is cable have 7 wires/poles?

While I am not sure which ones use 7 specifically.  But USB 3.0 uses 9.  This link is for all 7 wire din connectors.  There are other styles as well.  Many to choose from if you aren't to picky about size and such.

din quite hard find btw, i try rj45 too big, is there other choice shape like usb

You could take a look at DB-9 connectors.  Shouldn't be that tough to find.

it's easier find indeed but too big for just connect two halves

[dorkvader]

Really cool battlestation board. What purpose does the LED screen serve?

hard to say, but I think it outputs useful information.

This was a video editing keyboard, so it's easy to imagine a whole host of things. The driver CD only has Win2000 and WinXP drivers though.

I would also like to note it does NOT work properly (no upcodes are being sent from the adapter, confirmed with debug mode and hid listen) with a soarer, but will work (somewhat: 104 normal keys work fine all the rest depend on the adapter being used) with other converters. No idea why yet.

I'll be publishing what I know once I know more. Unlike the WEY, these aren't really common enough to publish a WIP as I don't think anyone else has one (IIRC ivan and spamray gutted theirs) and could help test.

What are the screw sizes for the poker 2? Are they easy to get? Are the sizes of washer important or do we just get roughly same sized one?

I believe they are M2 "fine" (or normal, M2 coarse is extremely rare) Washer size is not really important: anything close will be fine.

If you like I can verify this and get the length after work. PM me if no-one else answers.

[jdcarpe]

It's in the FAQ in the OP:

Does anyone know what size screws the Poker/Pure case uses?

CPTBadAss, please put this info in the OP:

Poker/Pure cases use M2-4mm (0.4mm pitch) machine screws to mount the PCB to the case. McMaster-Carr part # 92000A011

[Blaise170]

Mini-Din-5 or AT? Can you post a picture of the connector?

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[fohat.digs]

That looks like a mini-DIN6 with a missing pin.

Some keyboards such as the Northgate Omnikey 101 use a detachable cable with a male mini-DIN6 (not PS/2!) plug at one end and a male AT (180 degree DIN 5) plug at the other. A male-male mini-DIN6 or PS/2 cable will not work in that setup.

[Blaise170]

That looks like a mini-DIN6 with a missing pin.

Some keyboards such as the Northgate Omnikey 101 use a detachable cable with a male mini-DIN6 (not PS/2!) plug at one end and a male AT (180 degree DIN 5) plug at the other. A male-male mini-DIN6 or PS/2 cable will not work in that setup.

It matches up perfectly to this:

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[dorkvader]

That looks like a mini-DIN6 with a missing pin.

Some keyboards such as the Northgate Omnikey 101 use a detachable cable with a male mini-DIN6 (not PS/2!) plug at one end and a male AT (180 degree DIN 5) plug at the other. A male-male mini-DIN6 or PS/2 cable will not work in that setup.

It matches up perfectly to this:

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The missing pin (pin 2) is not connected. It's a mini DIN-6 missing a pin and will likely work just fine with a USB adapter.

see here:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PS/2_port

Many lexmark IBMs are also missing pin6, which is also not connected.

[frosty]

It's in the FAQ in the OP:

Does anyone know what size screws the Poker/Pure case uses?

CPTBadAss, please put this info in the OP:

Poker/Pure cases use M2-4mm (0.4mm pitch) machine screws to mount the PCB to the case. McMaster-Carr part # 92000A011

Thanks JD and dorkvader

[mozaiq]

A quick question regarding the programmability of the Poker II:

Assume I program '&', which is shift+7 to the 'a' key. Further assume that Pn lock is activated. Now if I press 'a' I will get '&' and if I press Pn+'a' I will get 'a'. So far, so good. Now what will be the result if I press shift+'a'? And what do I have to press to get 'A', Pn+shift+'a' I assume?

[Dubsgalore]

what korean spring is a tad heavier then mx reds? i forgot

[BlueBär]

1. Now what will be the result if I press shift+'a'?
2. And what do I have to press to get 'A', Pn+shift+'a' I assume?

1. Shift+shift+a or maybe just a? I don't know
2. Yes.

what korean spring is a tad heavier then mx reds? i forgot

62g-65g.

[Dubsgalore]

what korean spring is a tad heavier then mx reds? i forgot

62g-65g.

thanks homie

[yasuo]

btw to make led on/off with handwiring need transistor?

[dorkvader]

btw to make led on/off with handwiring need transistor?

gate of transistor goes to LED control pin on microcontroller.
Source goes to 5V ofcourse
drain goes to LED supply lines, where the resistors and LEDs are.

[yasuo]

btw to make led on/off with handwiring need transistor?

gate of transistor goes to LED control pin on microcontroller.
Source goes to 5V ofcourse
drain goes to LED supply lines, where the resistors and LEDs are.

moz right really need transistor cant just write on scripts on/off for caps lock.etc?
the schematic for feet led is resistor to gnd and wire to pb6,right? where place transistor?

[dorkvader]

btw to make led on/off with handwiring need transistor?

gate of transistor goes to LED control pin on microcontroller.
Source goes to 5V ofcourse
drain goes to LED supply lines, where the resistors and LEDs are.

moz right really need transistor cant just write on scripts on/off for caps lock.etc?
the schematic for feet led is resistor to gnd and wire to pb6,right? where place transistor?

Transistors are usually fast enough to switch the LEDs on/off even with PWM signals, so everything you can control with a normal LED control pin with your firmware of choice (led modes etc) you can use the transistor with.

Transistor can go anywhere. You can solder wires to it and put it under the PCB somewhere.

FET should work, MOSFET is probably fine. If you need more help make a thread and I'll look at your design.

LED control pin can be almost any pin. Check what firmware you are using.

[yasuo]

btw to make led on/off with handwiring need transistor?

gate of transistor goes to LED control pin on microcontroller.
Source goes to 5V ofcourse
drain goes to LED supply lines, where the resistors and LEDs are.

moz right really need transistor cant just write on scripts on/off for caps lock.etc?
the schematic for feet led is resistor to gnd and wire to pb6,right? where place transistor?

1.Transistors are usually fast enough to switch the LEDs on/off even with PWM signals, so everything you can control with a 2.normal LED control pin with your firmware of choice (led modes etc) you can use the transistor with.
Transistor can go anywhere. You can solder wires to it and put it under the PCB somewhere.
FET should work, MOSFET is probably fine. If you need more help make a thread and I'll look at your design.
3.LED control pin can be almost any pin. Check what firmware you are using.

thx ,
1.i just know
2.really thx i think solder on teensy
3.i use teensy may use gh60 firm like matt3o thread
scheme

so what mean pb6 for led in teensy?
no need make thread

[Elocutive]

What keyboard has nixdorf switches in it?

[nubbinator]

What keyboard has nixdorf switches in it?

Nixdorf keyboards like the Softkey.

[HPE1000]

Any way to tell if a zenith zkb2 has green alps or not? By model number on back or anything, or does a keycap need removed to tell?

[dorkvader]

What keyboard has nixdorf switches in it?

Nixdorf keyboards like the Softkey.

that one used cherry switches (with the clear top)

Keyboards with actual nixdorf (non cherry) switches are very uncommon. Here is an example:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/triplehaata/sets/72157640956847424/

[nubbinator]

What keyboard has nixdorf switches in it?

Nixdorf keyboards like the Softkey.

that one used cherry switches (with the clear top)

Keyboards with actual nixdorf (non cherry) switches are very uncommon. Here is an example:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/triplehaata/sets/72157640956847424/

Crap, I was thinking of the Nixdorf Cherry since that's what most people mean.

[hwood34]

What screws do GONs use (more specifically MX Mini)?

[Puddsy]

What screws do GONs use (more specifically MX Mini)?

Check GON's Q&A thread in his forum

that question gets answered like every other page

[hwood34]

What screws do GONs use (more specifically MX Mini)?

Check GON's Q&A thread in his forum

that question gets answered like every other page

fine meany head

thanks...

[FRD]

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[rowdy]

Could anyone with Ducky Mini provide a picture of a single switch w/o keycap?

I'm wondering w/e the switch is rotated upside down with LED on top of it (like on most other baclighting keyboards, Ducky's included) or was it kept in normal position with LED at the bottom of the switch.

The Mini's keycaps have printing at the bottom part of keycap (as apposed to Shine 3 and even Shine 4 top part of keycap printing). So i guess they went with the latter, but would like someone to confirm it.

http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=113_1361&products_id=28247&zenid=2baba418eaa33e76f2c57b3738c3a353

(scroll down)

LED at the bottom of the switch - you can tell by the position of the legends.