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Re: LightSaver by Duck
« Reply #150 on: Thu, 07 November 2013, 15:52:16 »
15 people

I will send out an e-mail today.

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Re: LightSaver by Duck
« Reply #151 on: Thu, 07 November 2013, 15:54:00 »
Was 15 people the maximum limit as well as the minimum? Or can more people still order?

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Re: LightSaver by Duck
« Reply #152 on: Thu, 07 November 2013, 15:59:43 »
I would have gotten in on this but I was under the impression the whole time that it was just 60%, not this odd layout :( still looks good though, grats to everyone who bought one.
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Re: LightSaver by Duck
« Reply #153 on: Thu, 07 November 2013, 16:00:38 »
Was 15 people the maximum limit as well as the minimum? Or can more people still order?

More people can order.  It's just that the price dropped to $285, so they get to choose a refund of $10 or a coupon code for a better value.

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Re: LightSaver by Duck
« Reply #154 on: Thu, 07 November 2013, 16:01:12 »
OMGees, I hope I can get in on one of these.  We'll see in the next couple days.
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Re: LightSaver by Duck
« Reply #155 on: Thu, 07 November 2013, 16:03:05 »
Yes photo...Once you've had a taste of korean custom you can never go back to those plastic-cased boards. Do eet.

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Re: LightSaver by Duck
« Reply #156 on: Thu, 07 November 2013, 16:04:08 »
I'd really, really love to get a PCB only if possible. Please, pretty please?

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Re: LightSaver by Duck
« Reply #157 on: Thu, 07 November 2013, 16:04:31 »
No I'm sticking with 2 keyboards maximum for myself, despite all the temptation, due to budget limitations and also... I really don't need more than that.  I can only get this if I can pass on another that I have preordered.  Otherwise I'll just have to find a way to get this in the future :)
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Re: LightSaver by Duck
« Reply #158 on: Thu, 07 November 2013, 16:06:10 »
You could just sell me your LZ-GH.
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Re: LightSaver by Duck
« Reply #159 on: Thu, 07 November 2013, 16:07:14 »
I see. Yes this would be my second...and it would also be the first time I've ever had more than one mechanical keyboard at one time! I cannot hold my excitement. I think I visit this thread every day lol.

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Re: LightSaver by Duck
« Reply #160 on: Thu, 07 November 2013, 16:12:10 »
You could just sell me your LZ-GH.

If I ever do, I'll definitely tell you!  But I've wanted a keyboard like it for a long time, so I can't part with it for the foreseeable future.  But I would part with my LZ Alu Skin TKL, that's the one I have on pre-order :)  I'd really like to try this form factor--I like the compactness of it and the tray-style case.
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Re: LightSaver by Duck
« Reply #161 on: Thu, 07 November 2013, 21:31:43 »
Definitely interested in this. Any information regarding firmware/programming? Is the controller a Atmega32U4 (http://duck0113.tistory.com/category/Duck%20mini%20firmware not sure if the saver is wired up demonstrably different than the mini)?

Seconding this question. Pretty tempted to get one of these but I need to know what I can do in terms of Fn layer(s), toggling of layers, how programming is done, etc.

Also, about much would shipping be to canada?

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Re: LightSaver by Duck
« Reply #162 on: Thu, 07 November 2013, 21:38:31 »
Definitely interested in this. Any information regarding firmware/programming? Is the controller a Atmega32U4 (http://duck0113.tistory.com/category/Duck%20mini%20firmware not sure if the saver is wired up demonstrably different than the mini)?

Seconding this question. Pretty tempted to get one of these but I need to know what I can do in terms of Fn layer(s), toggling of layers, how programming is done, etc.

Also, about much would shipping be to canada?

The programming will be set when the one who built it tests it out more.  He's going to give me all the information. 

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Re: LightSaver by Duck
« Reply #163 on: Thu, 07 November 2013, 21:51:04 »
Fair enough. Is there support for costar stabilizers? Or is it cherry only?

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Re: LightSaver by Duck
« Reply #164 on: Fri, 08 November 2013, 04:20:33 »
Sherryton, possible to get a PCB only, please?

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Re: LightSaver by Duck
« Reply #165 on: Fri, 08 November 2013, 12:20:03 »
Last day is today!

Fair enough. Is there support for costar stabilizers? Or is it cherry only?

Cherry stabilizers for sure.  I think Costar is applicable, but I will have to ask.

Sherryton, possible to get a PCB only, please?

I am sorry.  Not at this time.

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Re: LightSaver by Duck
« Reply #166 on: Fri, 08 November 2013, 12:27:02 »
Sherry if we order this with other stuff will we be able to get the other stuff now and this later?

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Re: LightSaver by Duck
« Reply #167 on: Fri, 08 November 2013, 12:31:11 »
Sherry if we order this with other stuff will we be able to get the other stuff now and this later?

It all comes at once.

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Re: LightSaver by Duck
« Reply #168 on: Fri, 08 November 2013, 13:57:06 »
I wasn't able to get in on this... Sorry. But it seems enough people did. Hopefully one day, one of you decides to sell yours off. I will be there, waiting.

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Re: LightSaver by Duck
« Reply #169 on: Fri, 08 November 2013, 14:13:28 »
I wasn't able to get in on this... Sorry. But it seems enough people did. Hopefully one day, one of you decides to sell yours off. I will be there, waiting.

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Re: LightSaver by Duck
« Reply #170 on: Fri, 08 November 2013, 14:20:41 »
Is it possible to add a second PCB to an existing order?

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Re: LightSaver by Duck
« Reply #171 on: Fri, 08 November 2013, 14:24:39 »
Is it possible to add a second PCB to an existing order?

I do not think so, because the items have already been ordered, and they are shipping out this week.  The reason for the length of time is oversea shipping.

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Re: LightSaver by Duck
« Reply #172 on: Fri, 08 November 2013, 14:27:07 »
Oh darn. Anyway, you can hook me up with the Korean manufacturing these and get me a PCB only, I will forever be indebted.

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Re: LightSaver by Duck
« Reply #173 on: Fri, 08 November 2013, 14:40:25 »
So the last day isn't the 11th like it says on the product page?

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Re: LightSaver by Duck
« Reply #174 on: Fri, 08 November 2013, 14:41:35 »
It's the 11th.

I am not making payment until Tuesday since it's the US Holiday this weekend.

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Re: LightSaver by Duck
« Reply #175 on: Fri, 08 November 2013, 20:03:26 »
15 people

I will send out an e-mail today.

hmmm... I don't receive any email :'(
More and more and more...

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Re: LightSaver by Duck
« Reply #176 on: Fri, 08 November 2013, 20:12:51 »
15 people

I will send out an e-mail today.

hmmm... I don't receive any email :'(

You should have received it by now :)

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Re: LightSaver by Duck
« Reply #177 on: Fri, 08 November 2013, 20:23:44 »
15 people

I will send out an e-mail today.

hmmm... I don't receive any email :'(

You should have received it by now :)

is it a different email from the one that you sent 5 days ago?
if yes, i haven't received it as well.

also, would you have stock for the stabilizers?
thanks!

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Re: LightSaver by Duck
« Reply #178 on: Fri, 08 November 2013, 20:25:16 »
15 people

I will send out an e-mail today.

hmmm... I don't receive any email :'(

You should have received it by now :)

is it a different email from the one that you sent 5 days ago?
if yes, i haven't received it as well.

also, would you have stock for the stabilizers?
thanks!

same!

trying to get in those stabilizers.  We are looking at around $6-7.5

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Re: LightSaver by Duck
« Reply #179 on: Fri, 08 November 2013, 20:27:52 »
same!

trying to get in those stabilizers.  We are looking at around $6-7.5

thank you sir.
sounds good. looking forward to it.

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Re: LightSaver by Duck
« Reply #180 on: Fri, 08 November 2013, 20:52:07 »
After some playing around with the angle of the board I have now, I find 11 degrees to be far too steep for my liking. Any chance for the same board in a shallower case? Or someone willing to buy the case off me if I decide to grab this board?

That layout is just far too appealing to me.

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Re: LightSaver by Duck
« Reply #181 on: Fri, 08 November 2013, 20:54:15 »
After some playing around with the angle of the board I have now, I find 11 degrees to be far too steep for my liking. Any chance for the same board in a shallower case? Or someone willing to buy the case off me if I decide to grab this board?

That layout is just far too appealing to me.

Please send me your order number, and I can send you a refund asap.

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Re: LightSaver by Duck
« Reply #182 on: Fri, 08 November 2013, 20:55:23 »
Well I didn't make an order yet. Just being wishy washy about getting the board or not.

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Re: LightSaver by Duck
« Reply #183 on: Fri, 08 November 2013, 21:04:56 »
Ok I have important questions.

In my opinion, many keyboards that are programmable are more or less crippled by the programming utility. This is the case with the Cherry G80-1950 and (to a lesser extent) the KMAC. The GUI may look nice and be easy to use, but the features aren't there. (For example, the Cherry doesn't have all keys available for programming. The KMAC has options for keys (toggleable function is one) that don't actually work, etc.) This has been alleviated with the rise of third party firmwares (TMK_Firmware for KMAC Looks like an excellent alternative) but is still somewhat of an issue.

I've been researching the Duck Saver and Lightsaver keyboards as much as I can, and I think I see references to a reprogramming utility, but have not seen any actual release or download. Will there be such a thing? more importantly, how good will it be? I'm okay pressing buttons in korean (or, better yet: just using text files and the command line, like what Soarer's firmware gives you), as long as it's easy to translate.

With the many plate options, it only makes sense for this keyboard to be programmable. Has a utility been released? What's it like? if not: is there a release date in mind? I can't wait to start using it. and picking what layout I'll have.

I think the underglow LED's are SMD and soldered already. Do you know what package / size they are? I need to start researching what custom colour I'll make mine.

Not sure if it's been answered yet, but this might be helpful:
http://duck0113.tistory.com/?page=6
(down the page).  Looks like Duck's boards use FLIP to load the firmware, and there are some examples (these are for Duck Mini).  Looks like possible ATmeta32U.

(P.S.: if you use Chrome, it can auto-translate the pages to English).
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Re: LightSaver by Duck
« Reply #184 on: Sat, 09 November 2013, 02:34:19 »
I find 11 degrees to be far too steep for my liking.

I can't measure my boards right now.

Is 11 degrees the angle you get when you use the feet on let's say a Filco or QFR?

I prefer my my boards flat on the table, so I am not a 100% sure I want to spent so much money on this board. But I want to :p

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Re: LightSaver by Duck
« Reply #185 on: Sat, 09 November 2013, 13:08:29 »
I can't measure my boards right now.

Is 11 degrees the angle you get when you use the feet on let's say a Filco or QFR?

I prefer my my boards flat on the table, so I am not a 100% sure I want to spent so much money on this board. But I want to :p

The angle does seem almost the same as when you use feet on those boards. One could just raise the front of the board to make the angle shallower, but that would also raise the height of the keys.
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Re: LightSaver by Duck
« Reply #186 on: Sat, 09 November 2013, 14:32:59 »
I can't measure my boards right now.

Is 11 degrees the angle you get when you use the feet on let's say a Filco or QFR?

I prefer my my boards flat on the table, so I am not a 100% sure I want to spent so much money on this board. But I want to :p

The angle does seem almost the same as when you use feet on those boards. One could just raise the front of the board to make the angle shallower, but that would also raise the height of the keys.
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Thanks for your post!

I just tried it with my Filco and I don't like the angle at all. Maybe it's just a matter of getting used to it, but I don't wanna risk spending ~350$ on a board I might not use...

Well, I still have 2 days left to decide ;)

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Re: LightSaver by Duck
« Reply #187 on: Sat, 09 November 2013, 14:56:20 »
I've just measured out an 11-degree wedge, and it's nearly identical to the Filco incline with feet extended.  It's steeper than LZ-GH. 
I agree--I wish the incline weren't so steep.  Flat Filco incline is my favorite--overall height too.
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Re: LightSaver by Duck
« Reply #188 on: Sat, 09 November 2013, 15:38:38 »
Anyone want two cases so I can have a shallower case made for myself? :rolleyes:

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Re: LightSaver by Duck
« Reply #189 on: Sat, 09 November 2013, 15:42:29 »
Anyone want two cases so I can have a shallower case made for myself? :rolleyes:

I am in the hunt for a PCB only, maybe if there is enough demand, Sherry could arrange it.

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Re: LightSaver by Duck
« Reply #190 on: Sat, 09 November 2013, 15:46:46 »
Well if it were an option I'd take just the PCB and plate (and some stabs if costar won't work on the plate).

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Re: LightSaver by Duck
« Reply #191 on: Sun, 10 November 2013, 17:58:02 »
Ordered! I'll have to wait on those stabilizers though - I need 7x PCB mount.

Do the plates/PCBs support both ANSI and ISO? I'm okay if it's ANSI only, but I'm just curious.

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Re: LightSaver by Duck
« Reply #192 on: Sun, 10 November 2013, 19:36:53 »
There's a picture of the layouts it supports on originative, but the plate and PCB do not appear to support vertical enter or split left shift.

Of course, you can always modify it yourself.

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Re: LightSaver by Duck
« Reply #193 on: Tue, 12 November 2013, 13:52:50 »
Patiently waiting.


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« Reply #194 on: Tue, 12 November 2013, 15:30:44 »
Any word on the final number/whether there'd be another price drop?

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Re: LightSaver by Duck
« Reply #195 on: Tue, 12 November 2013, 16:01:18 »
Any word on the final number/whether there'd be another price drop?

There were about 20 orders + 6 from me.  26 Total!

I'll update you guys on refunds or coupons when we finish all these orders.  We're totally packed right now.  I think we might have to put down our site for maintenance.

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« Reply #196 on: Tue, 12 November 2013, 16:16:49 »
Sherry, how do the side LEDs get selected?  Does the silver kit come with blue pre-soldered?  Just wondering if it's possible to do something neutral like white right away.
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Re: LightSaver by Duck
« Reply #197 on: Tue, 12 November 2013, 16:20:37 »
I think it might come with multiple.  I will ask, and if it comes with a few options, then I will send out an e-mail.


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« Reply #198 on: Tue, 12 November 2013, 16:21:17 »
Awesome--thanks! 
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« Reply #199 on: Tue, 12 November 2013, 17:06:12 »
There were about 20 orders + 6 from me.  26 Total!

I'll update you guys on refunds or coupons when we finish all these orders.  We're totally packed right now.  I think we might have to put down our site for maintenance.

26, Good news ! :)

I ordered a couple keycap sets yesterday, hope processing them won't be affected by the Saber-frenzy !? ;)
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