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[IC] DSS Carpinteria | GROUP BUY LIVE (at some vendors)
« on: Wed, 03 February 2021, 10:15:55 »


DSS Carpinteria
Inspired by (and adapted from) a sunset over Carpinteria, CA

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Group Buy date confirmed: June 3 to July 8



Kits
Rendered by Izeri


The base kit includes support for a variety of boards from 60 to TKL, including Alice, UK ISO, and F13.


The numpad kit includes support for full-size and 1800 boards (in conjunction with the base kit) and standalone numpads.


The accent kit adds a pop of color to your board -- more orange, the same one found in the legends.


The 40s kit adds support for a variety of popular and obscure 40s and Ortho boards, notably including the Minivan.


The Mac kit adds legend-correct support for Mac layouts, including F14 and F15 to replace some top-row modifiers.


The NorDe kit offers affordable support for a variety of European layouts, including Swedish, Finnish, German, Danish, Norwegian, Estonian, and Faeroese.


The spacebar kit includes a 6u convex bar, as well as 1.25u blanks for 6.25u split layouts. An additional 1u blank and two 3u blanks are included for a 3-1-3 split.


These novelties -- designed by Stellaidoscope -- aim to bring the set beyond just a colorscheme, featuring drawings of scenes from Carpinteria alongside classic weather icons.



Renders
Rendered by pwade3.


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Satisfaction75 by Upas


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Maja by Vulcan


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TKL ONE by Hiney

Rendered by Izeri.


Aki-S by ThicThock


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Iron165 by Smith and Rune



Deskmats
Designed by Stellaidoscope.



Sunset


Nadir



KTT Switches
These aren’t renders -- these are photos by the amazing Lovecraft!



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Specifications:
-Tactile
-Based off of the KTT Matcha switch
-5 pin housing
-50g long spring
-Manufactured by KTT



Collaborations

Metal Artisans: Asero Foundry
- R1 DSS profile
- Aluminium
- Orange infil



Resin Artisans: Amusing Atelier
Details to come.

Cables: Digital Aaron’s Customs







Colors

AlphasRAL 5003
Alpha LegendsRAL 1034
ModsRAL 7021
Mod LegendsRAL 1034
AccentRAL 1034
Accent LegendsRAL 7021



About DSS Profile
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DSS profile was created by Comptec Inc (now known as Signature Plastics) to fit the universal keycap standards introduced in the mid-80s. Fading out of the spotlight shortly after in favor of its uniform brother DSA, DSS was considered lost to history until its reintroduction in the late 2010s.

Featuring a spherical top (similar to DSA), DSS is sculpted profile, much like the Cherry and SA profiles in that regard. Made from ABS plastic, DSS offers a unique typing experience. If you’ve ever wished that your DSA keycaps were sculpted, your GMK keycaps were spherical, or you just want to try something new… DSS may be right for you.

DSS Carpinteria uses a 1-1-2-3-4-3 sculpt.

To compare DSS to your favorite keycap profiles, check out Keycaps.info

Further Reading:
SP’s DSS Spec Sheet
SP’s History of Keycap Families

Note: As SP does not offer split spacebars in the DSS profile, DSA blanks are offered as an alternative in the base, 40s, and spacebar kits.




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Pricing
Remaining Pricing Coming Soon


Group Buy from June 3 to July 8 2021!



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  • Liz, Misono, MakerJake, and Izeri for the of renders, and Rayhhdailo for labeling one of the rounds of kit renders.
  • NoPunIn10Did, DrHigsby, Alas, and more for the kitting help.
  • Stellaidoscope/Sera for the amazing novelties and deskmats. Your work truly made this set complete.
  • The vendors -- all 13 of them -- for everything you’ve done to make this possible. I never expected to this project to get this far.
  • Vala for being an invaluable source of feedback and encouragement. From those early days in which I was using hex codes picked from a photo… up until now… thank you for all you did to help make this set a reality.
  • Mirubere for responding to all my late-night DMs with questions I never thought I'd need answered.
  • Lovecraft for being an amazing friend and for taking the switch and cable photos. Its been wonderful getting to know you these past few months… you’ve helped me more than you could ever know.
  • Spoopysaurus who told me that this was even possible and reacted with the best possible nitro emotes to my scuffed DIY renders… even at 3AM. I :kyuclap: to you, my friend!
  • Davis (founder of 3DKeebs) for letting me focus-group Carpinteria in her server… even back when it was just a Dakota Felder render with some hex codes. Thank you for believing in that set and agreeing to run it. You're an amazing person and I've loved working with you and being a mod in your server.


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Re: [IC] DSS Carpinteria
« Reply #1 on: Wed, 03 February 2021, 10:16:26 »
Updates

2/3/2021IC Posted
2/9/2021Vendor List Updated
2/16/2021Added Prototypist for UK, working on securing a GB date with vendors
2/22/2021Working on revised renders and reformatted some parts of the IC
2/26/2021Entirely revamped the IC post, added banner by Vala. I'm still working on new renders and kitting, which will be released soon. A GB date is also in the works!
4/4/2021New kits, added Mexico vendor, released expected GB month.
4/20/2021Added switches.
4/25/2021Renders updated.
5/9/2021Updated to final renders.
5/10/2021Pricing for most regions announced.
5/16/2021Added artisan collabs, deskmats and novelties by Stellaidoscope, and more pricing information.
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Re: [IC] DSS Carpinteria
« Reply #2 on: Wed, 03 February 2021, 10:26:20 »
Looks nice! GLWIC

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Re: [IC] DSS Carpinteria
« Reply #3 on: Wed, 03 February 2021, 10:27:56 »
Acitrin is a good dude, support DSS Carpinteria  :)
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Re: [IC] DSS Carpinteria
« Reply #4 on: Wed, 03 February 2021, 10:28:47 »
Renders look great.  Cool Set!  Curious how much that base set will cost ...

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Re: [IC] DSS Carpinteria
« Reply #5 on: Wed, 03 February 2021, 10:36:42 »
nice. gimme gimme.

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Re: [IC] DSS Carpinteria
« Reply #6 on: Wed, 03 February 2021, 10:41:28 »
Classy Set  :thumb:

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Re: [IC] DSS Carpinteria
« Reply #7 on: Wed, 03 February 2021, 10:48:54 »
Interesting...any renders with the accent kit?

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Re: [IC] DSS Carpinteria
« Reply #8 on: Wed, 03 February 2021, 10:51:48 »
lovely

1.5 Sys key in base please

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Re: [IC] DSS Carpinteria
« Reply #9 on: Wed, 03 February 2021, 10:57:00 »
cute set! r3 control (stepped or not) would be nice to also have in base, otherwise kitting looks good.

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Re: [IC] DSS Carpinteria
« Reply #10 on: Wed, 03 February 2021, 11:10:15 »
awesome! love to see you moving up in the keeb game. GLWIC

Now give me F13
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Re: [IC] DSS Carpinteria
« Reply #11 on: Wed, 03 February 2021, 11:22:54 »
Interested, great colours and the DSS profile make this a nice set for the right board.
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Re: [IC] DSS Carpinteria
« Reply #12 on: Wed, 03 February 2021, 11:24:05 »
Love to see more DSS! Profile of the future.

R3 1.75 bottom row FN probably doesn't need inclusion in the 40s kit as the 12.75u peeps have basically moved beyond that layout at this point (even Evan himself no longer uses it).

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Re: [IC] DSS Carpinteria
« Reply #13 on: Wed, 03 February 2021, 11:35:04 »
in a few months time DSS lead times will start to look like SA

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Re: [IC] DSS Carpinteria
« Reply #14 on: Wed, 03 February 2021, 12:43:01 »
I forgot to mention: please also include 1.5u shift in the 40s kit, and 1.5u Function in either base or 40s

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Re: [IC] DSS Carpinteria
« Reply #15 on: Wed, 03 February 2021, 14:39:11 »
How thick are these DSS keycaps?

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Re: [IC] DSS Carpinteria
« Reply #16 on: Wed, 03 February 2021, 14:46:27 »
Nice looking set, really like the colors!

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Re: [IC] DSS Carpinteria
« Reply #17 on: Wed, 03 February 2021, 17:13:09 »
This looks AMAZING# Love the look of this set, excellent work
Ps. Please keep the UK ISO through the IC GB

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Re: [IC] DSS Carpinteria
« Reply #18 on: Wed, 03 February 2021, 22:10:49 »
Looks nice! GLWIC
Thanks! Same to you... whenever you post yours

Renders look great.  Cool Set!  Curious how much that base set will cost ...

I appreciate that! We're aiming for a relatively affordable base kit... definitely less than a GMK set with the same contents

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Acitrin is a good dude, support DSS Carpinteria  :)

Thanks, logo! You're a good dude too :)

Interesting...any renders with the accent kit?

I sent a DM to Liz (the renderer) and she's working on it!

nice. gimme gimme.
Thanks + will do :)

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Re: [IC] DSS Carpinteria
« Reply #19 on: Wed, 03 February 2021, 22:15:43 »
lovely

1.5 Sys key in base please

Please drop that in the IC form so I have all kitting feedback in one place!

Love to see more DSS! Profile of the future.

R3 1.75 bottom row FN probably doesn't need inclusion in the 40s kit as the 12.75u peeps have basically moved beyond that layout at this point (even Evan himself no longer uses it).

Yes, in a future kit render, we're cutting that FN key, allowing a LOCK (substituting for CAPS LOCK) to take its place.

awesome! love to see you moving up in the keep game. GLWIC

Now give me F13

Aww, thanks Powwu! And, yes, F13 is coming.

I forgot to mention: please also include 1.5u shift in the 40s kit, and 1.5u Function in either base or 40s

1.5u shift -- will add
1.5u function -- what do you need it for?

Interested, great colours and the DSS profile make this a nice set for the right board.


Thanks for your support!

This looks AMAZING# Love the look of this set, excellent work
Ps. Please keep the UK ISO through the IC GB

Thank you too! I totally appreciate that support. I plan to keep UK ISO in base at this time

in a few months time DSS lead times will start to look like SA

I hope not!

cute set! r3 control (stepped or not) would be nice to also have in base, otherwise kitting looks good.

Thanks! Yeah, the R3 CONTROL was cut to keep kit prices down, but with the CAPS LOCK key swapping to LOCK, it should be less of a problem imo.

Nice looking set, really like the colors!

Wow, thank you! Happy you like it!

How thick are these DSS keycaps?
Actually, surprisingly thick! I don't have exact measurements... but I was impressed with them

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Re: [IC] DSS Carpinteria
« Reply #20 on: Thu, 04 February 2021, 01:44:35 »
Looks nice

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Re: [IC] DSS Carpinteria
« Reply #21 on: Thu, 04 February 2021, 02:09:47 »
the color way is nice and inoffensive, but to be honest the dss is rather interesting to me, as i like spherical and sculpted and that both KAT and SA are rather high, depending on the price i may jump on it.
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Re: [IC] DSS Carpinteria
« Reply #22 on: Thu, 04 February 2021, 02:49:07 »
I don't like when kits are modelled to GMK kitting when it's not necessary.

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Re: [IC] DSS Carpinteria
« Reply #23 on: Thu, 04 February 2021, 05:16:28 »
Looks very nice! I need a DSS set in my life :)

Any chance of accented Esc/1u Enter in the 40s/Ortho kit?

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« Reply #24 on: Thu, 04 February 2021, 05:34:20 »
I don't like when kits are modelled to GMK kitting when it's not necessary.

I agree. To elaborate, the alphas and mods should be split, that way 40s users don't have to get the full-size mods. Please see the PimpMyKeyboard DSS Tecla shop page as an example of how kits could/should be split.

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« Reply #25 on: Thu, 04 February 2021, 06:39:41 »
I don't like when kits are modelled to GMK kitting when it's not necessary.

I agree. To elaborate, the alphas and mods should be split, that way 40s users don't have to get the full-size mods. Please see the PimpMyKeyboard DSS Tecla shop page as an example of how kits could/should be split.
that also implies higher prices for everyone else, but then most peoples can't seem to care about others anyhow
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Re: [IC] DSS Carpinteria
« Reply #26 on: Thu, 04 February 2021, 06:47:12 »
I don't like when kits are modelled to GMK kitting when it's not necessary.

From experience, doing a la carte kitting is indeed possible with SP-produced sets, but certain types of keys scale very poorly costwise without a high MOQ.

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« Reply #27 on: Thu, 04 February 2021, 09:03:08 »

that also implies higher prices for everyone else, but then most peoples can't seem to care about others anyhow

So you are for the ortho/40s keys to be included in base kit? That would be a good solution as well.

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Re: [IC] DSS Carpinteria
« Reply #28 on: Thu, 04 February 2021, 09:05:03 »
How thick are these DSS keycaps?
Actually, surprisingly thick! I don't have exact measurements... but I was impressed with them
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Let me know exact measurements once you have it. "surprisingly thick" can be anything. (:

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Re: [IC] DSS Carpinteria
« Reply #29 on: Thu, 04 February 2021, 09:20:14 »

that also implies higher prices for everyone else, but then most peoples can't seem to care about others anyhow

So you are for the ortho/40s keys to be included in base kit? That would be a good solution as well.

That can indeed be cost-effective, which is why DSS Late Harvest takes that approach.  However, I think this set is (1) aiming at a lower MOQ and (2) using a larger amount of non-stock-color plastic, so that might not work as well here.

Each designer has different target price points and audiences, and DSS is such a wild card at this point that it probably benefits the community to try a lot of different kitting schemes.

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Re: [IC] DSS Carpinteria
« Reply #30 on: Thu, 04 February 2021, 10:30:17 »
Cute colors, and DSS profile, that's definitely a must buy :)
For whoever doesnt know about this profile: the key tops are textured like DSA.

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Re: [IC] DSS Carpinteria
« Reply #31 on: Thu, 04 February 2021, 12:52:49 »
Have been waiting for a good look DSS set for so loooooong

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Re: [IC] DSS Carpinteria
« Reply #32 on: Thu, 04 February 2021, 13:17:23 »
How thick are these DSS keycaps?
Actually, surprisingly thick! I don't have exact measurements... but I was impressed with them

Let me know exact measurements once you have it. "surprisingly thick" can be anything. (:
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Google Does wonders. DSS is the same thickness as DSA which is .040"

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Re: [IC] DSS Carpinteria
« Reply #33 on: Fri, 05 February 2021, 01:17:56 »

that also implies higher prices for everyone else, but then most peoples can't seem to care about others anyhow

So you are for the ortho/40s keys to be included in base kit? That would be a good solution as well.
i am for the solution that means the most peoples pay the least, it is why although i am an ISO user i never fight to have iso included in the base, but as a kit, i will not fight to get it removed from base either to be fair. so if having those keys in the base does not increase price by much and makes more peoples happy then yeah that is a rather good solution but if it add 25% to the price for 2 peoples to be happy, then nah mate.
(and i would say the same for ISO support, or any "non standards" features, even though ISO is far more standard than ANSI)
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Re: [IC] DSS Carpinteria
« Reply #34 on: Fri, 05 February 2021, 03:54:28 »

DSS is the same thickness as DSA which is .040"


= barely over 1mm, which is not really thick by keycap standards (1.5-1.6mm being fairly standard)

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Re: [IC] DSS Carpinteria
« Reply #35 on: Fri, 05 February 2021, 12:10:22 »

that also implies higher prices for everyone else, but then most peoples can't seem to care about others anyhow

So you are for the ortho/40s keys to be included in base kit? That would be a good solution as well.

That can indeed be cost-effective, which is why DSS Late Harvest takes that approach.  However, I think this set is (1) aiming at a lower MOQ and (2) using a larger amount of non-stock-color plastic, so that might not work as well here.

Each designer has different target price points and audiences, and DSS is such a wild card at this point that it probably benefits the community to try a lot of different kitting schemes.

Thanks, NoPun, for stepping in here! I've been debating how best to cover 40s layouts... and I think that my "GMK Style" kitting allows me to successfully cover a large amount of people with as few keys as possible. That being said, I'm open to feedback on my kitting.

If you check my changelog post under a "more" button, you'll see some pending changes that cut keys, both in base and in the 40s kit, without cutting support. If you have any suggestions on how to cover 40s better (without raising the price astronomically), please let me know and I will add it to the list!

Thanks for your support!

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Re: [IC] DSS Carpinteria
« Reply #36 on: Fri, 05 February 2021, 16:11:47 »
Really like the colors, this is a must have set, so shut up, take my money :D,  When will be a GB?

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Re: [IC] DSS Carpinteria
« Reply #37 on: Fri, 05 February 2021, 20:35:57 »
Really like the colors, this is a must have set, so shut up, take my money :D,  When will be a GB?

I’m hoping to bring this to GB some time in Q2 2021!

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Re: [IC] DSS Carpinteria
« Reply #38 on: Sat, 06 February 2021, 09:29:16 »
PLEASE MAKE THIS HAPPEN!!!!

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Re: [IC] DSS Carpinteria
« Reply #39 on: Sat, 06 February 2021, 13:16:32 »
Really love the colorway

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Re: [IC] DSS Carpinteria
« Reply #40 on: Sat, 06 February 2021, 14:23:27 »
PLEASE MAKE THIS HAPPEN!!!!

I’m doing my best to make this happen :) ... hopefully soon and at a reasonable price point!


Thanks for your support!

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Re: [IC] DSS Carpinteria
« Reply #41 on: Sat, 06 February 2021, 23:07:19 »
Classy set! Good job, brother!

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Re: [IC] DSS Carpinteria
« Reply #42 on: Sun, 07 February 2021, 14:03:45 »
Classy set! Good job, brother!

Thank you, my friend! : )

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Re: [IC] DSS Carpinteria
« Reply #43 on: Sun, 07 February 2021, 14:42:54 »

DSS is the same thickness as DSA which is .040"


= barely over 1mm, which is not really thick by keycap standards (1.5-1.6mm being fairly standard)

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Re: [IC] DSS Carpinteria
« Reply #44 on: Mon, 08 February 2021, 08:06:21 »
I really really love the colours and the style. My buy really depends on the price of the set. I’ve never tried DSA or DSS so I don’t think I’m comfortable dropping as much on this as I would on a cherry profile set. Will be watching this tho!

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« Reply #45 on: Mon, 08 February 2021, 12:22:54 »
Set looks great mate

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Re: [IC] DSS Carpinteria
« Reply #46 on: Mon, 08 February 2021, 12:51:40 »
Love the colors. I always thought dark navy and black is a great combination. Add a contrasting yellow. Boom!
Which reminds me. I'm sad I didn't join the GMK Thinkcap GB.

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Re: [IC] DSS Carpinteria
« Reply #47 on: Tue, 09 February 2021, 17:57:03 »
Hey everyone!

Thank you so much for supporting my set so far... it's been wonderful to see how much you love this.

Quick update re: the vendor list:

I've added Fancy Customs for Latin America, iLumkb for SEA, and Rectangles.store for India. I'm hoping to bring this keyset to a wide variety of markets at an affordable price.

As before, I am truly impressed with how supportive you've been. Thank you, seriously.

We're also trying to fit a GB into Q2 2021!

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« Reply #48 on: Wed, 10 February 2021, 15:38:07 »
The colors blend beautifully and would look absolutely amazing on my board. I'm in!

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Re: [IC] DSS Carpinteria | UK Vendor Announced | Group Buy Date Coming Soon
« Reply #49 on: Tue, 16 February 2021, 17:24:31 »
Hey everyone!

Just a couple quick updates today:

1. I just added Prototypist as a UK vendor. Now, we have vendors covering:

United States, Canada, Europe, United Kingdom, Oceania, Latin America, Southeast Asia, India, Philippines, and China.

If there's any regions that aren't covered, please let me know and I'll try to add a vendor!

2. I'm still working on some kitting refinements coming soon!

3. I'm discussing pricing and potential GB dates with my vendors right now. Expect some updates on that soon!

Thank you, again, for your support!

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