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Re: [IC] [VOTE] Solarized Set Key Caps
« Reply #150 on: Sun, 20 October 2013, 23:16:13 »
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Re: [IC] [VOTE] Solarized Set Key Caps
« Reply #151 on: Mon, 21 October 2013, 03:09:05 »
Why not some mods for HHKB-like layout?  :)
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Re: [IC] [VOTE] Solarized Set Key Caps
« Reply #152 on: Mon, 21 October 2013, 03:56:37 »
Quote from: Ryu on Mon, 21 October 2013, 03:09:05
Why not some mods for HHKB?  :)

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Re: [IC] [VOTE] Solarized Set Key Caps
« Reply #153 on: Mon, 21 October 2013, 12:04:05 »
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Smooth for wear uniformity?

One problem with the smooth finish I have noticed after a hot summer with Round 4 sphericals and no air conditioning is they feel sticky in high humidity, as they cup your fingertips. FWIW I haven't had any problems with the matte Round 3 DSAs wearing smooth, but maybe I don't type enough.
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Re: [IC] [VOTE] Solarized Set Key Caps
« Reply #154 on: Mon, 21 October 2013, 12:47:02 »
Like this color, but I am not a fans of SA profile  :-[
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Re: [IC] [VOTE] Solarized Set Key Caps
« Reply #155 on: Mon, 21 October 2013, 17:10:06 »
To give my input on the GMK vs SP discussion:
One big reason to go with GMK over SP is their thickness of caps - SP caps are much thinner than GMK caps.
However, SA profile caps are super thick.  I don't have a full set, just a few from a crap bag, but the caps I have are quite thick and wouldn't feel "cheap" like some people think DCS SP keycaps feel.  So since the general consensus here is to go with a retro looking style, I think it'd be best to stick with SA profile from SP since it gives us that profile, centered big alphas, and still is thick.
Just my two cents.
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Re: [IC] Penumbra Key Set (formerly Solarized)
« Reply #156 on: Mon, 21 October 2013, 23:25:23 »
Updated OP with new mock-ups and the new name, Penumbra! (Thanks Photoelectric for the name)

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Gathering some various pricing data from SP.

Let me know if you miss the graphic legend modifiers - To me they don't look right with the retro everything-else but if everyone is outraged then they can go back.
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Re: [IC] Penumbra Key Set (formerly Solarized)
« Reply #157 on: Mon, 21 October 2013, 23:27:50 »
Quote from: rowdy on Mon, 21 October 2013, 03:56:37
Quote from: Ryu on Mon, 21 October 2013, 03:09:05
Why not some mods for HHKB?  :)

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Quote from: Ryu on Mon, 21 October 2013, 03:09:05
Why not some mods for HHKB-like layout?  :)

What keys would need to be added? Don't know HHKB layout, its just not my thing.
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Re: [IC] Penumbra Key Set (formerly Solarized)
« Reply #158 on: Mon, 21 October 2013, 23:32:43 »
Quote from: Ryan Uber on Mon, 21 October 2013, 23:25:23
Updated OP with new mock-ups and the new name, Penumbra! (Thanks Photoelectric for the name)

ErgoDox
Currently there is no ErgoDox kit in the images because of the small amount of requests for it so far - but it can be added back if enough people are interested. Register your interest for it here:
https://docs.google.com/forms/d/13thmqfAdDN25T2RJvtbPeRSpx5l3AYisgzDaL1aGOG4/viewform

Gathering some various pricing data from SP.

Let me know if you miss the graphic legend modifiers - To me they don't look right with the retro everything-else but if everyone is outraged then they can go back.

Yeah I'm in the graphic mods camp, much prefer them.
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Quote from: HoffmanMyster on Tue, 20 January 2015, 19:52:41
It's a good width!  If it's half-width it's too narrow, and full-width is too wide. 

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Re: [IC] Penumbra Key Set (formerly Solarized)
« Reply #159 on: Mon, 21 October 2013, 23:37:07 »
I could go either way with the mods--just want the set to happen beyond the mock ups.  I think modifiers look more natural / symmetric as lettering, personally.  There's already a lot happening with the set, in terms of all the random colors and contrasts.
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Re: [IC] Penumbra Key Set (formerly Solarized)
« Reply #160 on: Mon, 21 October 2013, 23:39:22 »
Quote from: bueller on Mon, 21 October 2013, 23:32:43
Quote from: Ryan Uber on Mon, 21 October 2013, 23:25:23
Updated OP with new mock-ups and the new name, Penumbra! (Thanks Photoelectric for the name)

ErgoDox
Currently there is no ErgoDox kit in the images because of the small amount of requests for it so far - but it can be added back if enough people are interested. Register your interest for it here:
https://docs.google.com/forms/d/13thmqfAdDN25T2RJvtbPeRSpx5l3AYisgzDaL1aGOG4/viewform

Gathering some various pricing data from SP.

Let me know if you miss the graphic legend modifiers - To me they don't look right with the retro everything-else but if everyone is outraged then they can go back.

Yeah I'm in the graphic mods camp, much prefer them.

Also started wondering when I was looking at them earlier - does the 10-key pad normally have some kind of graphical legends on them as well?  Like the enter key?

And while we are on that subject - I noticed that near the alphas, the enter key is labeled "RETURN" which I like better, but on the 10-key pad I have "ENTER". So..?
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Re: [IC] Penumbra Key Set (formerly Solarized)
« Reply #161 on: Mon, 21 October 2013, 23:42:35 »
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Re: [IC] Penumbra Key Set (formerly Solarized)
« Reply #162 on: Mon, 21 October 2013, 23:44:47 »
Actually looking over the previous SA sets and I think the thing that's throwing me off with the mock up is the differing font sizes for the mods. Check out the photo below for an example. If the legends on the mods are all going to be the same size then I'm happy to lose the graphic legends.

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Quote from: HoffmanMyster on Tue, 20 January 2015, 19:52:41
It's a good width!  If it's half-width it's too narrow, and full-width is too wide. 

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Re: [IC] Penumbra Key Set (formerly Solarized)
« Reply #163 on: Mon, 21 October 2013, 23:48:51 »
Quote from: bueller on Mon, 21 October 2013, 23:44:47
Actually looking over the previous SA sets and I think the thing that's throwing me off with the mock up is the differing font sizes for the mods. Check out the photo below for an example. If the legends on the mods are all going to be the same size then I'm happy to lose the graphic legends.

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Yeah of course - I didn't spend enough time perfecting things in the mock-ups so its my fail. They would definitely be uniform.
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Re: [IC] Penumbra Key Set (formerly Solarized)
« Reply #164 on: Mon, 21 October 2013, 23:50:31 »
Quote from: Ryan Uber on Mon, 21 October 2013, 23:48:51
Quote from: bueller on Mon, 21 October 2013, 23:44:47
Actually looking over the previous SA sets and I think the thing that's throwing me off with the mock up is the differing font sizes for the mods. Check out the photo below for an example. If the legends on the mods are all going to be the same size then I'm happy to lose the graphic legends.

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Yeah of course - I didn't spend enough time perfecting things in the mock-ups so its my fail. They would definitely be uniform.

Haha most people probably wouldn't have even noticed, I'm just totally picky about these sorts of things :)
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Quote from: HoffmanMyster on Tue, 20 January 2015, 19:52:41
It's a good width!  If it's half-width it's too narrow, and full-width is too wide. 

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Re: [IC] Penumbra Key Set (formerly Solarized)
« Reply #166 on: Tue, 22 October 2013, 00:24:22 »
They are quite different colors.
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Re: [IC] Penumbra Key Set (formerly Solarized)
« Reply #167 on: Tue, 22 October 2013, 00:25:38 »
Quote from: moogle on Tue, 22 October 2013, 00:20:38
why GTL and GPA instead of a single gray?

Mainly because GPA wouldn't really show up on BED.
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Re: [IC] Penumbra Key Set (formerly Solarized)
« Reply #168 on: Tue, 22 October 2013, 00:27:32 »
GH Esc Keys? In grey? Not a dealbreaker but pink is probably my least favourite colour hahaha
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Quote from: HoffmanMyster on Tue, 20 January 2015, 19:52:41
It's a good width!  If it's half-width it's too narrow, and full-width is too wide. 

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« Reply #169 on: Tue, 22 October 2013, 00:28:51 »
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Re: [IC] Penumbra Key Set (formerly Solarized)
« Reply #170 on: Tue, 22 October 2013, 00:30:02 »
Quote from: bueller on Tue, 22 October 2013, 00:27:32
GH Esc Keys? In grey? Not a dealbreaker but pink is probably my least favourite colour hahaha

Actually I think we do need alternate ESC. I personally don't like RCR very much either. Good idea.

EDIT: Have not asked SP about that yet - I am assuming they do have a "GEEK HACK" key cap in SA row 1?

Like this but in SA + row 1
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Re: [IC] Penumbra Key Set (formerly Solarized)
« Reply #171 on: Tue, 22 October 2013, 00:32:52 »
I believe geek hack design needs a permission from the admins.  I *think* that's the case.
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Re: [IC] Penumbra Key Set (formerly Solarized)
« Reply #172 on: Tue, 22 October 2013, 01:01:35 »
Quote from: Photoelectric on Tue, 22 October 2013, 00:32:52
I believe geek hack design needs a permission from the admins.  I *think* that's the case.

So, perhaps a regular ESCAPE in the gray color then to keep this rolling.
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Re: [IC] Penumbra Key Set (formerly Solarized)
« Reply #173 on: Tue, 22 October 2013, 01:16:59 »
Down with the mock up for the base kit on the 1st page.
Just wanna ask, when will you plan to run the GB tho ?
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Re: [IC] Penumbra Key Set (formerly Solarized)
« Reply #174 on: Tue, 22 October 2013, 01:28:22 »
Quote from: pichu23 on Tue, 22 October 2013, 01:16:59
Down with the mock up for the base kit on the 1st page.
Just wanna ask, when will you plan to run the GB tho ?

Once I've ironed out all of the details - as you can tell there are still a few little things being tweaked. I won't put a hard date on when the GB will begin, but "soon" is probably a safe assumption for when it will begin. I want to give any ergodox people a chance to register their interest, if there are only a few or so then this set will probably not run ergodox sets.
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Re: [IC] Penumbra Key Set (formerly Solarized)
« Reply #175 on: Tue, 22 October 2013, 01:30:20 »
Quote from: Ryan Uber on Tue, 22 October 2013, 01:28:22
Quote from: pichu23 on Tue, 22 October 2013, 01:16:59
Down with the mock up for the base kit on the 1st page.
Just wanna ask, when will you plan to run the GB tho ?

Once I've ironed out all of the details - as you can tell there are still a few little things being tweaked. I won't put a hard date on when the GB will begin, but "soon" is probably a safe assumption for when it will begin. I want to give any ergodox people a chance to register their interest, if there are only a few or so then this set will probably not run ergodox sets.

Can I assume it won't be this month ?
Cause I'm hella broke  :))
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Re: [IC] Penumbra Key Set (formerly Solarized)
« Reply #176 on: Tue, 22 October 2013, 01:44:36 »
Quote from: pichu23 on Tue, 22 October 2013, 01:30:20
Can I assume it won't be this month ?
Cause I'm hella broke  :))

Probably still taking orders in a month - Pretty sure we will need to give it a month or so to hit the MOQ's for the prices we want. Let's imagine wrapping up orders and getting into production at the end of November, if things go well. Most people here (myself included) want them faster but I am guessing realistically it will be a month-ish.
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Re: [IC] Penumbra Key Set (formerly Solarized)
« Reply #177 on: Tue, 22 October 2013, 02:07:07 »
Wait, when did this get renamed? Not that I was in, anyway, as if I were to buy a new keycap set I'd go for the mocha thing MOZ is trotting around. But with the solarized set, at least I could sing about the sins of the solar empire while typing. Which would be cool.

Cool is how I feel about this color combination. Not hot, not cold. Good luck anyway.
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Re: [IC] Penumbra Key Set (formerly Solarized)
« Reply #178 on: Tue, 22 October 2013, 02:15:12 »
Quote from: Ryan Uber on Tue, 22 October 2013, 01:44:36
Probably still taking orders in a month - Pretty sure we will need to give it a month or so to hit the MOQ's for the prices we want. Let's imagine wrapping up orders and getting into production at the end of November, if things go well. Most people here (myself included) want them faster but I am guessing realistically it will be a month-ish.

Smart thing to do.  Even some of us can pay up immediately you need to think about the others you can't front up with the money now.  A month is a decent amount of time I should think, but I could be wrong, due to some may wanting it to go on longer (just my own understanding when involved with GB's thus far).

Besides you can fine tune the "Penumbra" (if you want) to give that extra appeal for some wanting a little more.
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Re: [IC] Penumbra Key Set (formerly Solarized)
« Reply #179 on: Tue, 22 October 2013, 02:16:53 »
Quote from: Ryan Uber on Tue, 22 October 2013, 00:30:02
Quote from: bueller on Tue, 22 October 2013, 00:27:32
GH Esc Keys? In grey? Not a dealbreaker but pink is probably my least favourite colour hahaha

Actually I think we do need alternate ESC. I personally don't like RCR very much either. Good idea.

EDIT: Have not asked SP about that yet - I am assuming they do have a "GEEK HACK" key cap in SA row 1?

Like this but in SA + row 1
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Ask them for a quote on getting one made, IIRC it's about $45 for DCS caps so we could probably get one made and distribute the cost throughout the set.
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It's a good width!  If it's half-width it's too narrow, and full-width is too wide. 

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Re: [IC] Penumbra Key Set (formerly Solarized)
« Reply #180 on: Tue, 22 October 2013, 02:32:06 »
Anyone think bright red might look better on ESCAPE ? Like "RR"?
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Re: [IC] Penumbra Key Set (formerly Solarized)
« Reply #181 on: Tue, 22 October 2013, 02:34:52 »
Quote from: Ryan Uber on Tue, 22 October 2013, 02:32:06
Anyone think bright red might look better on ESCAPE ? Like "RR"?

Yep, RA or RR.
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Quote from: HoffmanMyster on Tue, 20 January 2015, 19:52:41
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Re: [IC] Penumbra Key Set (formerly Solarized)
« Reply #182 on: Tue, 22 October 2013, 02:37:36 »
Am late to this party and liking this in SA, but not so ken on the multicoloured mod legend text. Would be better with one colour for that.  Also would the ISO kit be cheaper if the return key had no legend? If so I'd be happy with that...
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Re: [IC] Penumbra Key Set (formerly Solarized)
« Reply #183 on: Tue, 22 October 2013, 02:50:59 »
Quote from: GMC on Tue, 22 October 2013, 02:37:36
Am late to this party and liking this in SA, but not so ken on the multicoloured mod legend text. Would be better with one colour for that.  Also would the ISO kit be cheaper if the return key had no legend? If so I'd be happy with that...

First ISO suggestion, so we could remove the legend from the ISO kit. Might be a little cheaper.
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Re: [IC] Penumbra Key Set (formerly Solarized)
« Reply #184 on: Tue, 22 October 2013, 03:11:07 »
No one has mentioned deep dish or nubs yet for f/j/5 keys. I added both, I like nubs but I know a lot of people like deep dish.
Also tried replacing RCR with RR - both RR and RA look about the same, RR a little lighter which might give it more contrast against the base color. Let me know if you liked RCR better (pink).
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Re: [IC] Penumbra Key Set (formerly Solarized)
« Reply #185 on: Tue, 22 October 2013, 03:17:47 »
Quote from: Ryan Uber on Tue, 22 October 2013, 03:11:07
No one has mentioned deep dish or nubs yet for f/j/5 keys. I added both, I like nubs but I know a lot of people like deep dish.
Also tried replacing RCR with RR - both RR and RA look about the same, RR a little lighter which might give it more contrast against the base color. Let me know if you liked RCR better (pink).

Good man, I'm in the deep dish camp :)
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Quote from: HoffmanMyster on Tue, 20 January 2015, 19:52:41
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Re: [IC] Penumbra Key Set (formerly Solarized)
« Reply #186 on: Tue, 22 October 2013, 04:13:44 »
nice set. I'm in..
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Re: [IC] Penumbra Key Set (formerly Solarized)
« Reply #187 on: Tue, 22 October 2013, 04:31:06 »
Deep dish
Legend mods
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RR for Escape with Geek Hack (In two rows)
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Re: [IC] Penumbra Key Set (formerly Solarized)
« Reply #188 on: Tue, 22 October 2013, 05:03:40 »
Quote from: GMC on Tue, 22 October 2013, 02:37:36
Am late to this party and liking this in SA, but not so ken on the multicoloured mod legend text. Would be better with one colour for that.  Also would the ISO kit be cheaper if the return key had no legend? If so I'd be happy with that...

I kinda like the multi coloured mods actually. :-x
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Re: [IC] Penumbra Key Set (formerly Solarized)
« Reply #189 on: Tue, 22 October 2013, 05:29:07 »
Do you think enough people will notice the ergodox voting link?
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Re: [IC] Penumbra Key Set (formerly Solarized)
« Reply #190 on: Tue, 22 October 2013, 05:53:12 »
Yeah, the multi-coloured mods look great. I haven't looked at the first page in a while and the mock ups look fantastic. Surely this set will have no shortage of fans.
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Re: [IC] Penumbra Key Set (formerly Solarized)
« Reply #191 on: Tue, 22 October 2013, 06:25:12 »
Love the new name. I would be in for a set.
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Re: [IC] Penumbra Key Set (formerly Solarized)
« Reply #192 on: Tue, 22 October 2013, 10:11:57 »
Since things went for the more yellowy appearance for the alphas, I'm out.
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Re: [IC] Penumbra Key Set (formerly Solarized)
« Reply #193 on: Tue, 22 October 2013, 12:48:35 »
Quote from: Hellmark on Tue, 22 October 2013, 10:11:57
Since things went for the more yellowy appearance for the alphas, I'm out.

I'm afraid I have to agree. I much prefer the original colorway on the alphas. Lovin' the mods though.
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Re: [IC] Penumbra Key Set (formerly Solarized)
« Reply #194 on: Tue, 22 October 2013, 12:59:05 »
Any chance of adding a blank 1.75 mod in the base kit?

To use as right shift on an 1800 or pure board, or as a replacement for caps lock if anyone has an hhkb style gh60...
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Re: [IC] Penumbra Key Set (formerly Solarized)
« Reply #195 on: Tue, 22 October 2013, 13:17:05 »
It's part of the Tsangan.
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Re: [IC] Penumbra Key Set (formerly Solarized)
« Reply #196 on: Tue, 22 October 2013, 13:20:20 »
Quote from: mashby on Tue, 22 October 2013, 12:48:35
Quote from: Hellmark on Tue, 22 October 2013, 10:11:57
Since things went for the more yellowy appearance for the alphas, I'm out.

I'm afraid I have to agree. I much prefer the original colorway on the alphas. Lovin' the mods though.

The yellow-beige was the original for the mock ups.  Then someone noted that Solarized uses a different beige, and the lighter alphas were introduced for a time.  More people voted for the "original" darker beige "semi-solarized" alphas, and the set got renamed.
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Re: [IC] Penumbra Key Set (formerly Solarized)
« Reply #197 on: Tue, 22 October 2013, 13:31:17 »
Any chance we could get blanks for this? Just single units in YCC or the Dark Blue?
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Re: [IC] Penumbra Key Set (formerly Solarized)
« Reply #198 on: Tue, 22 October 2013, 13:43:25 »
Last I saw, the google docs poll had things fairly even, with the darker semisolar being just a percent or two ahead. What was the final results?

I do really love the blue from the mods though.
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Re: [IC] Penumbra Key Set (formerly Solarized)
« Reply #199 on: Tue, 22 October 2013, 13:47:56 »
It was more like 60% to 40% last I looked.
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