(GB) TOXIC (shipping)

[SpAmRaY]

ok im getting a bit fed up now

can people please stop trying chargebacks on my paypal account for toxic

i have had 5 so far, this activity puts everyones money at risk and is totally not acceptable

if you wanna cancel an order, speak to me and we can work together, if you open a dispute im gonna fight it

wow....people are being really dumb, I bet they only wanted brobots!

[BunnyLake]

ok im getting a bit fed up now

can people please stop trying chargebacks on my paypal account for toxic

i have had 5 so far, this activity puts everyones money at risk and is totally not acceptable

if you wanna cancel an order, speak to me and we can work together, if you open a dispute im gonna fight it

wow....people are being really dumb, I bet they only wanted brobots!

of the 5 disputes, i refunded 1, fought 3, won 2 and i just got a fresh one this morning

for some reason people like to claim fraudulent activity on there account, like we and paypal dont log their IPS etc

ive been pretty good with keeping these issues private, but from now on im just gonna name them, block them and ban them

i wish people would realise, this sorta activity can get an account locked down with paypal, i dont care about your money, its everyone elses im protecting thats at risk because these people act like children

[tadbitnerdy]

Yeah, that is ridiculous.  Bunny is great with communication.  If you want to cancel your order, just PM him.  Don't be an a$$hat just because you're butthurt about brobots.

Ha, I just used a$$hat and butthurt in the same sentence.  Go me!

[Belfong]

What the hell people! Please let us enjoy our hobbies in peace!

[Irisviel]

ok im getting a bit fed up now

can people please stop trying chargebacks on my paypal account for toxic

i have had 5 so far, this activity puts everyones money at risk and is totally not acceptable

if you wanna cancel an order, speak to me and we can work together, if you open a dispute im gonna fight it

wow....people are being really dumb, I bet they only wanted brobots!

+1

[SpAmRaY]

Yeah, that is ridiculous.  Bunny is great with communication.  If you want to cancel your order, just PM him.  Don't be an a$$hat just because you're butthurt about brobots.

Ha, I just used a$$hat and butthurt in the same sentence.  Go me!

I think we all know what these people really are being.....

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[BunnyLake]

Yeah, that is ridiculous.  Bunny is great with communication.  If you want to cancel your order, just PM him.  Don't be an a$$hat just because you're butthurt about brobots.

Ha, I just used a$$hat and butthurt in the same sentence.  Go me!

this last one was about an order placed on the 19th, way after bots and no mention of them in the order

it drives me crazy because when i have a genuine issue, paypal take into consideration past issues on the account, so i dont want all this rubbish in my history

it puts me in a position where i need to fight these things rather than give the person a refund so in future it shows cases are found in my favour

[Belfong]

Can you show forums discussion as proof of you being genuine on the issue? Such as rules of the group buy? Does Pay Pal even consider these as documentation.

[MOZ]

This sucks, I don't get why people have to do this. I had a similar issue in my GB, when people wanted to change their orders, they would cancel the old invoice, even though I asked them not to and allow me to change current invoice.

[BunnyLake]

Can you show forums discussion as proof of you being genuine on the issue? Such as rules of the group buy? Does Pay Pal even consider these as documentation.

yeah i have a good relationship with paypal, they have extensive notes on what i do, the the model of what we do etc, but you have to understand its essentially an honour system, because of the amount of transactions i put through them, its a very small percentage of issues whenever stuff like this happens,  however during toxic im getting a concentrated amount and that isnt good

im just getting a bit fed up of waking up to emails like this, if anyone has an issue, please message me via pm on geekhack

running gbs is not a business, i have taken a loss on every gb we have done, but i enjoy doing this for the most part and wanna be able to continue, but i cant do that without my paypal account

[Fire Brand]

Ohh man that's not good, hopefully you do ban them from future group buys and inform other of them as that's just low especially, since you would of more than likely be able to sort something out if you they just asked hope you win them all or most of them bunny.

[Belfong]

Good to know that Pay Pal is cool with you, Bunny.

The challenge is on people creating new account in GH and sometimes you gotta give people the benefits of the doubt, coz we were all new to GH once.

[BunnyLake]

Good to know that Pay Pal is cool with you, Bunny.

The challenge is on people creating new account in GH and sometimes you gotta give people the benefits of the doubt, coz we were all new to GH once.

we log and track all the ips on the site

[BunnyLake]

Ohh man that's not good, hopefully you do ban them from future group buys and inform other of them as that's just low especially, since you would of more than likely be able to sort something out if you they just asked hope you win them all or most of them bunny.

yeah its ok, part of the trouble is i always wake up to these things and im not a morning person

on the point of contacting me

9 times out of 10 ill get back to people right away, but i get a ton of pms and such and occasionally i miss things, so sometimes sending a gentle reminder to me is needed

[Belfong]

I'm not sure if IP logging help. Coz one could use a home PC, work notebook, a 3G iPad from telco 1 and iPhone from telco 2. All will give different IP.

[riotonthebay]

I'm not sure if IP logging help. Coz one could use a home PC, work notebook, a 3G iPad from telco 1 and iPhone from telco 2. All will give different IP.

It helps. Most people will make purchases from their primary device, and that's the same device they'll likely use to log into PayPal. If Bunny can show that the person is accessing his site from that IP, and PayPal sees that they use the IP continuously to log into PayPal, they can be reasonably certain that it's the same person or at least of the same household. (Caveats apply, of course.)

Bunny, I'm sorry to hear about this :/

[isaske]

It really sucks that people do this.
Like, everyone really wished for the bros. But cancelling the buy because someone didn't get in is really silly and a douche move.
Can't believe people do this.

[archer]

Hey Bunny, I sent you a PM a couple days ago. Please take a look when you have a moment. Thanks!

[BunnyLake]

Hey Bunny, I sent you a PM a couple days ago. Please take a look when you have a moment. Thanks!

replied

sorry missed that, sometimes when my pms go from one page to the next, but i get a few at once i miss the one from the page before

[Wildcard]

Words can't describe how happy I am Bunny that you're bringing the Toxic set to life!

Thank you again for running this

[chaosstep]

ok im getting a bit fed up now

can people please stop trying chargebacks on my paypal account for toxic

i have had 5 so far, this activity puts everyones money at risk and is totally not acceptable

if you wanna cancel an order, speak to me and we can work together, if you open a dispute im gonna fight it

Cheer up Bunny. That must be painful.   :|

[atlas3686]

I can't believe people don't even consult Bunny before claiming on paypal, seriously guys come on.

We appreciate the effort Bunny, Thanks! 

Speaking of which received my Ctrl Alt sticker today, now gotta find somewhere to put it that's better than an acid vat

[Motan22]

I can't believe people don't even consult Bunny before claiming on paypal, seriously guys come on.

We appreciate the effort Bunny, Thanks! 

Speaking of which received my Ctrl Alt sticker today, now gotta find somewhere to put it that's better than an acid vat

If I ever get my hands on one of the new transparent backed ones, I may have to up my game and get it on a main reactor. 

[naasfu]

ok im getting a bit fed up now

can people please stop trying chargebacks on my paypal account for toxic

i have had 5 so far, this activity puts everyones money at risk and is totally not acceptable

if you wanna cancel an order, speak to me and we can work together, if you open a dispute im gonna fight it

My guess is that these are non-GH folks (or new members) who have no idea about how a GB works?  This GB has been pretty high profile, so there are a lot of new people who were interested in this.  Someone posted this GB on reddit, and it's possible this may have been shared elsewhere too.  So they may have expected their order to ship out soon like a regular online shop.

One suggestion is to put a big disclaimer message about GBs up in the Checkout page.  Another thing is that there doesn't seem to be contact info in the "Contact Us" section on the new site yet, so people might not know where to ask about their order.

[jakemfbacon]

ok im getting a bit fed up now

can people please stop trying chargebacks on my paypal account for toxic

i have had 5 so far, this activity puts everyones money at risk and is totally not acceptable

if you wanna cancel an order, speak to me and we can work together, if you open a dispute im gonna fight it

wow....people are being really dumb, I bet they only wanted brobots!

of the 5 disputes, i refunded 1, fought 3, won 2 and i just got a fresh one this morning

for some reason people like to claim fraudulent activity on there account, like we and paypal dont log their IPS etc

ive been pretty good with keeping these issues private, but from now on im just gonna name them, block them and ban them

i wish people would realise, this sorta activity can get an account locked down with paypal, i dont care about your money, its everyone elses im protecting thats at risk because these people act like children

Wow that is awful. Although I am surprised you won them. Most of the time Paypal sides with the buyer and people do chargebacks on purpose  to get the item and their money. Although, I guess nothing has been shipped yet so this might be different? It has happened to me before  even with all my evidence that they clearly wanted to purchase the product and I really hate paypal because of it.

[rowdy]

Sadness.

Why are people so narky.

[mashby]

OK guys. You know what needs to be done! Everyone bring it in for a massive group hug for bunny.




Question: A restraining order doesn't apply if a group hug is involved right? 

[user 18]

Poor Bunny. It's very unfortunate that people do nasty stuff like that. Rest assured knowing that we all truly appreciate what you've done for this set and others, and all the time and effort you put in. Don't let a few people sully that.

[exitfire401]

Just wondering, any way to add deluxe boxes/toxic alphas yet? Also, I still need to add a toxic tsangan to my order, but continue to get the 500 internal server error when attempting to put the order in =(

[BunnyLake]

Just wondering, any way to add deluxe boxes/toxic alphas yet? Also, I still need to add a toxic tsangan to my order, but continue to get the 500 internal server error when attempting to put the order in =(

we are working on the update at the moment

[exitfire401]

Just wondering, any way to add deluxe boxes/toxic alphas yet? Also, I still need to add a toxic tsangan to my order, but continue to get the 500 internal server error when attempting to put the order in =(

we are working on the update at the moment

Awesome! Thanks sir!

[Glissant]

I just wanted to take some time to thank the Bunny and Cody for all their hard work.

Thank you both very much!

[BunnyLake]

I just wanted to take some time to thank the Bunny and Cody for all their hard work.

Thank you both very much!

free toxic alphas for you

[Air tree]

[Puddsy]

indeed

[rowdy]

I just wanted to take some time to thank the Bunny and Cody for all their hard work.

Thank you both very much!

I would like to second this.

The effort that goes into any normal group buy is impressive, but the work that has gone into this one, and the dedication of Bunny and Cody is just unbelievable!

Thanks guys

[BunnyLake]

I just wanted to take some time to thank the Bunny and Cody for all their hard work.

Thank you both very much!

I would like to second this.

The effort that goes into any normal group buy is impressive, but the work that has gone into this one, and the dedication of Bunny and Cody is just unbelievable!

Thanks guys

free toxic display case for you

no more freebies tonight guys, thats one of each

[Puddsy]

Bunny is literally too nice

What a cool dude

[divito]

Wallet Hack strikes again! Will watch classifieds in the future.

[Puddsy]

Wallet Hack strikes again! Will watch classifieds in the future.

Why watch classifieds if you can just buy it here? Orders are still open...

[naasfu]

Wallet Hack strikes again! Will watch classifieds in the future.

There are still 12 days left in the GB.  You still have time to sell off your other personal belongings and loved ones for cash.

[Belfong]

Ha ha ha naasfu.. That really made me lol'd especially selling loved ones.


And Awesome of Bunny of spreading so much love overall...

[nubbinator]

I'm still trying to decide if I want an inverted set as well.

And what percentage of people would you say tipped Bunny?  If you're willing to share that that is.  If it hit at least 20%, that would be awesome.

[BunnyLake]

I'm still trying to decide if I want an inverted set as well.

And what percentage of people would you say tipped Bunny?  If you're willing to share that that is.  If it hit at least 20%, that would be awesome.

well a handful tipped more than the $2 that it defaults to

this time around, we have far more contributions because we had the tip as default with the option to not tip, so i know the percentage is far higher than any other buy we have done, but im not sure on the percentage, ill look into it at the end

its interesting how much of a difference it makes between giving people the choice to turn the tip off rather than on

[sleepy916]

Wallet Hack strikes again! Will watch classifieds in the future.

I will be doing a random giveaway with my tkl set (alpha + mods) once I get them. Free is good right? 

[nubbinator]

I'm still trying to decide if I want an inverted set as well.

And what percentage of people would you say tipped Bunny?  If you're willing to share that that is.  If it hit at least 20%, that would be awesome.

well a handful tipped more than the $2 that it defaults to

this time around, we have far more contributions because we had the tip as default with the option to not tip, so i know the percentage is far higher than any other buy we have done, but im not sure on the percentage, ill look into it at the end

its interesting how much of a difference it makes between giving people the choice to turn the tip off rather than on

Yup.  It's one of the first things we talked about in my classes on research design in grad school.  It's why some states in the US are considering moving to opt out organ donation instead of opt in. 

Good to see you guys got some good tips though, even if most people only did the default amount.  And hopefully you got a lot of kind notes.  I know I wrote you a little something nice.

[divito]

Why watch classifieds if you can just buy it here? Orders are still open...

Have spent a lot recently, so foreseeable future will see less keyboard items unfortunately.   Can't wait for Raindrop v2 or the GeekHack pack!

There are still 12 days left in the GB.  You still have time to sell off your other personal belongings and loved ones for cash.

Aha; after seeing all that was added and done with this GB, it is tempting I must say.

I will be doing a random giveaway with my tkl set (alpha + mods) once I get them. Free is good right? 

Of course

[Glissant]

I just wanted to take some time to thank the Bunny and Cody for all their hard work.

Thank you both very much!

free toxic alphas for you

OH wow! I can't say no to that Much appreciated, sir <3

[hwood34]

[BunnyLake]

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dont get carried away sir