Author Topic: [IC] Mountain Alice - Southpaw Alice with ISO support! (KEYCAP RENDERS OUT)  (Read 39905 times)

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Offline yoboard

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Hello keyboard people!

I present to you first ever southpaw 1800 Alice.

                                                                               
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Top angle renders




                                                                               


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One tone color renders




                                                                               


Two tone color renders

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Wrist rest



Wrist rest is a concept, will not be polycarbonate because it is too large to be PC and will definitely yellow overtime.
Most likely if this is going to come to reality the body might be anodized aluminum or wood (not decided yet)
and will have an colored anodized aluminum accent at the end of it.




                                                                               


Physical specs:

- Typing angle 5.5
- Mounting: Top mount + Burger mount using o-rings
- Front height: 20.6mm
- Seamless design
- Anodized aluminum body
- Internal brass weight sandblasted
- Anodized aluminum plate (Only aluminum material option for now, will try including PC and brass)


PCB Specs: (Designed by Gondolindrum)

- Features daughterboard
- VIA/QMK compatible
- ESD protection

- USB-C port
- Mirrored numpad
- ISO support
- Clicky rotary encoder
- LED indicators
- 9.5 degree angle on alphanumericals
- Soldered only

Layout of the PCB



                                                                               


USB-C port




Exploded render of knob, top frame, bottom frame, and case foam.




Flex cuts on plate which will create a more flexible typing experience.




Internal of mounting which is top mount + burger mount with o-rings
Plate is sandwiched between o-rings from bottom and top.





Knob will come in silver option too, or gold if you prefer it like in the renders.




                                                                               

FAQ

When will keycap renders come in??
- Soon, sometime around this month. Just wanted to update this post since it was gaining a lot of attention.

How many units?
- Depends on demand

Any estimation on price?
- TBD

When will prototype happen?
- Will order prototype hopefully around this month or end of this month.

Any more questions please comment below and I'll respond!

                                                                               

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Love the layout

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Re: [IC] Mountain Alice - Full-sized Alice, Southpaw, Seamless
« Reply #2 on: Sun, 14 February 2021, 18:12:17 »
so the renders are wrong?
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Re: [IC] Mountain Alice - Full-sized Alice, Southpaw, Seamless
« Reply #3 on: Sun, 14 February 2021, 18:13:42 »
No, they are what the Alice keyboard is now, and update model will be posted soon.

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Re: [IC] Mountain Alice - Full-sized Alice, Southpaw, Seamless
« Reply #4 on: Sun, 14 February 2021, 18:15:42 »
Make it south paw!

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Re: [IC] Mountain Alice - Full-sized Alice, Southpaw, Seamless
« Reply #5 on: Sun, 14 February 2021, 18:17:42 »
Any chance for supporting ISO enter :-[?

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Re: [IC] Mountain Alice - Full-sized Alice, Southpaw, Seamless
« Reply #6 on: Sun, 14 February 2021, 18:20:13 »
Unfortunately, I tried and it is possible but the position of the keys would be similar to an ortholinear and would be awkward. This isn't the final design, I still am trying ways to add ISO support.

It might be added to the next revision the model!

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Re: [IC] Mountain Alice - Full-sized Alice, Southpaw, Seamless
« Reply #7 on: Sun, 14 February 2021, 18:22:39 »
This looks insane, what are the dimensions of the board?

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Re: [IC] Mountain Alice - Full-sized Alice, Southpaw, Seamless
« Reply #8 on: Sun, 14 February 2021, 18:25:32 »
Cool stuff! Excited to see how this goes

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Re: [IC] Mountain Alice - Full-sized Alice, Southpaw, Seamless
« Reply #9 on: Sun, 14 February 2021, 18:25:41 »
In for southpaw


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Re: [IC] Mountain Alice - Full-sized Alice, Southpaw, Seamless
« Reply #10 on: Sun, 14 February 2021, 18:36:06 »
would actually prefer non-southpaw, looks very interesting tho!

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Re: [IC] Mountain Alice - Full-sized Alice, Southpaw, Seamless
« Reply #11 on: Sun, 14 February 2021, 19:19:34 »
Would prefer non-southpaw.

But who am I kidding? At $500USD I'm not copping anyway.

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Re: [IC] Mountain Alice - Full-sized Alice, Southpaw, Seamless
« Reply #12 on: Sun, 14 February 2021, 19:30:03 »
godspeed gk64 shift

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Re: [IC] Mountain Alice - Full-sized Alice, Southpaw, Seamless
« Reply #13 on: Sun, 14 February 2021, 20:49:48 »
Would prefer non-southpaw.

But who am I kidding? At $500USD I'm not copping anyway.
Yeah, any chance to offer both layout?

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Re: [IC] Mountain Alice - Full-sized Alice, Southpaw, Seamless
« Reply #14 on: Sun, 14 February 2021, 21:55:24 »
This is big brain, do you have any socials or do we keep track of your project solely on GH?

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Re: [IC] Mountain Alice - Full-sized Alice, Southpaw, Seamless
« Reply #15 on: Sun, 14 February 2021, 22:00:30 »
What I like about the old layout is the extra key next to the "T" key, as for those who press "Y" with both left and right fingers might bind that. I think adding it back to the new layout could make it more easier to adjust.

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Re: [IC] Mountain Alice - Full-sized Alice, Southpaw, Seamless
« Reply #16 on: Sun, 14 February 2021, 23:18:35 »
I like the Southpaw!

Will the PCB have features like ESD protection? And I could have missed this - will it be VIA / QMK compatible?

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Re: [IC] Mountain Alice - Full-sized Alice, Southpaw, Seamless
« Reply #17 on: Sun, 14 February 2021, 23:54:06 »
That 2u right shift is kind of a compatibility killer - any chance at either a 2.25 or 1.75, making it a more standard size?

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Re: [IC] Mountain Alice - Full-sized Alice, Southpaw, Seamless
« Reply #18 on: Mon, 15 February 2021, 00:24:44 »
Looks nice. Interested in old/non-southpaw

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Re: [IC] Mountain Alice - Full-sized Alice, Southpaw, Seamless
« Reply #19 on: Mon, 15 February 2021, 00:46:03 »
Amazing. Will be following closely.

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Re: [IC] Mountain Alice - Full-sized Alice, Southpaw, Seamless
« Reply #20 on: Mon, 15 February 2021, 01:03:28 »
I like the new and fresh variation on the Alice layout, but not so excited about having 'Alice' in the name.

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Re: [IC] Mountain Alice - Full-sized Alice, Southpaw, Seamless
« Reply #21 on: Mon, 15 February 2021, 01:31:15 »
I absolutely love this and am looking forward to the southpaw renders. I’d love to see stepped caps lock be available on the non-southpaw version as well.

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Re: [IC] Mountain Alice - Full-sized Alice, Southpaw, Seamless
« Reply #22 on: Mon, 15 February 2021, 02:19:36 »
Yes, yes , yes.  Love everything about this, a full size alice for work.  Are you going to do a southpaw as well or replace this design with it?  Please if possible run this version first.  If I can also suggest that you run the wrist rest for it at the same time as the correct wrist rest is needed for proper alice use.

Good luck with this.
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Re: [IC] Mountain Alice - Full-sized Alice, Southpaw, Seamless
« Reply #23 on: Mon, 15 February 2021, 02:33:32 »
interesting.

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Re: [IC] Mountain Alice - Full-sized Alice, Southpaw, Seamless
« Reply #24 on: Mon, 15 February 2021, 02:54:53 »
Now this is super cool. Mirrored Southpaw please. :thumb:

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Re: [IC] Mountain Alice - Full-sized Alice, Southpaw, Seamless
« Reply #25 on: Mon, 15 February 2021, 03:47:21 »
Wow, that is impressive AND awesome looking!

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Re: [IC] Mountain Alice - Full-sized Alice, Southpaw, Seamless
« Reply #26 on: Mon, 15 February 2021, 05:09:45 »
looks nice. hope to see a proto soon

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Re: [IC] Mountain Alice - Full-sized Alice, Southpaw, Seamless
« Reply #27 on: Mon, 15 February 2021, 05:32:41 »
I absolutely love this and am looking forward to the southpaw renders. I’d love to see stepped caps lock be available on the non-southpaw version as well.

It will be supporting stepped caps lock as well!

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Re: [IC] Mountain Alice - Full-sized Alice, Southpaw, Seamless
« Reply #28 on: Mon, 15 February 2021, 05:33:44 »
Yes, yes , yes.  Love everything about this, a full size alice for work.  Are you going to do a southpaw as well or replace this design with it?  Please if possible run this version first.  If I can also suggest that you run the wrist rest for it at the same time as the correct wrist rest is needed for proper alice use.

Good luck with this.

Planned on also modelling a custom wrist wrest for this. Will see how it goes if the people like it or not.

I'll probably make it an option for extras.

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Re: [IC] Mountain Alice - Full-sized Alice, Southpaw, Seamless
« Reply #29 on: Mon, 15 February 2021, 05:34:17 »
This looks insane, what are the dimensions of the board?

43cm by 14cm

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Re: [IC] Mountain Alice - Full-sized Alice, Southpaw, Seamless
« Reply #30 on: Mon, 15 February 2021, 05:35:03 »
What I like about the old layout is the extra key next to the "T" key, as for those who press "Y" with both left and right fingers might bind that. I think adding it back to the new layout could make it more easier to adjust.

Will add that extra key back.

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Re: [IC] Mountain Alice - Full-sized Alice, Southpaw, Seamless
« Reply #31 on: Mon, 15 February 2021, 05:35:45 »
Would prefer non-southpaw.

But who am I kidding? At $500USD I'm not copping anyway.
Yeah, any chance to offer both layout?

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Very unlikely. Most likely depends on demand which layout receives the most attention and that will be the final layout.

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Re: [IC] Mountain Alice - Full-sized Alice, Southpaw, Seamless
« Reply #32 on: Mon, 15 February 2021, 05:36:36 »
This is big brain, do you have any socials or do we keep track of your project solely on GH?

I will be creating a discord server for updates regarding this Alice Mountain.

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Re: [IC] Mountain Alice - Full-sized Alice, Southpaw, Seamless
« Reply #33 on: Mon, 15 February 2021, 05:37:20 »
I like the Southpaw!

Will the PCB have features like ESD protection? And I could have missed this - will it be VIA / QMK compatible?

Yes, it will have ESD protection and be VIA / QMK compatible.

That is our initial plan for the PCB.

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Re: [IC] Mountain Alice - Full-sized Alice, Southpaw, Seamless
« Reply #34 on: Mon, 15 February 2021, 05:39:03 »
That 2u right shift is kind of a compatibility killer - any chance at either a 2.25 or 1.75, making it a more standard size?

Yes, I could change it to either 2.25 or 1.75. I'll update you on the second revision of the model.

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Re: [IC] Mountain Alice - Full-sized Alice, Southpaw, Seamless
« Reply #35 on: Mon, 15 February 2021, 05:55:19 »
Would prefer non-southpaw.

But who am I kidding? At $500USD I'm not copping anyway.
Yeah, any chance to offer both layout?

ok. Most likely depends on demand which layout receives the most attention and that will be the final layout.
Maybe IC form to vote the layout?

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Re: [IC] Mountain Alice - Full-sized Alice, Southpaw, Seamless
« Reply #36 on: Mon, 15 February 2021, 06:06:48 »
Would prefer non-southpaw.

But who am I kidding? At $500USD I'm not copping anyway.
Yeah, any chance to offer both layout?

ok. Most likely depends on demand which layout receives the most attention and that will be the final layout.
Maybe IC form to vote the layout?


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Yes, that will happen very soon. Anytime this week.
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Re: [IC] Mountain Alice - Full-sized Alice, Southpaw, Seamless
« Reply #37 on: Mon, 15 February 2021, 06:19:11 »
I dont like full size but damn this is cool!

Re: [IC] Mountain Alice - Full-sized Alice, Southpaw, Seamless
« Reply #38 on: Mon, 15 February 2021, 09:29:27 »
I want it, yes.

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Re: [IC] Mountain Alice - Full-sized Alice, Southpaw, Seamless
« Reply #39 on: Mon, 15 February 2021, 10:25:53 »
I like the Southpaw!

Will the PCB have features like ESD protection? And I could have missed this - will it be VIA / QMK compatible?

Yes, it will have ESD protection and be VIA / QMK compatible.

That is our initial plan for the PCB.
Great, thanks!

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Re: [IC] Mountain Alice - Full-sized Alice, Southpaw, Seamless
« Reply #40 on: Mon, 15 February 2021, 11:55:53 »
i am so confused, is this a southpaw board or not
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Re: [IC] Mountain Alice - Full-sized Alice, Southpaw, Seamless
« Reply #41 on: Mon, 15 February 2021, 12:01:09 »
i am so confused, is this a southpaw board or not

There will be soon an IC Form to determine what majority of people like. (Southpaw or not)

For now this is a non-southpaw board.

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Re: [IC] Mountain Alice - Full-sized Alice, Southpaw, Seamless
« Reply #42 on: Mon, 15 February 2021, 12:08:24 »
Interesting project. Do you care to provide more details about the mounting system and case screws? The renders do a fine job of explaining the exterior but there is nothing for the internals.

You are going "screw-less", but the only way I can see that being possible(based off the renders you have provided) is having 4 screws under the feet(which isn't enough for even a 60% gasket board).

I'm very confused about the move to a south-paw design. This is generally a polarising opinion. Is this something you actually wanted to do before posting the IC, and couldn't decide on? Or are you just accomodating to requests made by people in this thread? It's been live for a day and you're fundamentally changing the layout and will have to remodel everything. This is incredibly odd for a personal project but makes sense if you're just designing for what "people want"(which isn't the way to go about projects imo).

I personally deteste designer names or logos on the exterior of boards("designed by X") because I believe it only serves a purpose for the board designer and no one else. I think an internal engraving is much more fitting for this application. Understandable if you wouldn't want to make this change; I understand it's an opinion.

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Re: [IC] Mountain Alice - Full-sized Alice: IC FORM is out for southpaw layout!
« Reply #43 on: Mon, 15 February 2021, 12:53:15 »
Man there are people interested in your project, please update renders and reply to suggestions.

I personally don't like the designer's name on the board either, the name of the keeb is fine tho :D

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Re: [IC] Mountain Alice - Full-sized Alice, Southpaw, Seamless
« Reply #44 on: Mon, 15 February 2021, 13:05:50 »
Interesting project. Do you care to provide more details about the mounting system and case screws? The renders do a fine job of explaining the exterior but there is nothing for the internals.

You are going "screw-less", but the only way I can see that being possible(based off the renders you have provided) is having 4 screws under the feet(which isn't enough for even a 60% gasket board).

I'm very confused about the move to a south-paw design. This is generally a polarising opinion. Is this something you actually wanted to do before posting the IC, and couldn't decide on? Or are you just accomodating to requests made by people in this thread? It's been live for a day and you're fundamentally changing the layout and will have to remodel everything. This is incredibly odd for a personal project but makes sense if you're just designing for what "people want"(which isn't the way to go about projects imo).

I personally deteste designer names or logos on the exterior of boards("designed by X") because I believe it only serves a purpose for the board designer and no one else. I think an internal engraving is much more fitting for this application. Understandable if you wouldn't want to make this change; I understand it's an opinion.

GLWIC

Thanks for you reply, I wanted to create a keyboard for myself and the community too. But I couldn't decide if whether people wanted southpaw or not. (I don't mind southpaw or not). So I created an IC Form for the community to decide whether they want southpaw or non.

I'm just showing the incomplete version of the non-southpaw version of the model. Screws will be from the top of the board, not under the feet.

The brass weight will also have some changes in the second model.
I also plan on removing that designed by yoboard and adding a aesthetic logo instead.

I know you can't see them but I will only complete this model (non-southpaw) if the community prefers this layout. For now, there is no point putting any more work into this model until the community votes on the layouts in the IC form.

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Re: [IC] Mountain Alice - Full-sized Alice: IC FORM is out for southpaw layout!
« Reply #45 on: Mon, 15 February 2021, 13:07:42 »
Man there are people interested in your project, please update renders and reply to suggestions.

I personally don't like the designer's name on the board either, the name of the keeb is fine tho :D

Thank you! I'll update the renders when the IC form is complete.

I need to know if the community prefers a southpaw or non-southpaw layout. Then I will do a remodel of this keeb.

For now the renders just show a representation of the board. (non-southpaw)

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Re: [IC] Mountain Alice - Full-sized Alice: IC FORM is out for southpaw layout!
« Reply #46 on: Mon, 15 February 2021, 16:43:11 »
i think if you can do a quick render of the southpaw version so people can compare the two and make a decision

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Re: [IC] Mountain Alice - Full-sized Alice: IC FORM is out for southpaw layout!
« Reply #47 on: Mon, 15 February 2021, 18:16:37 »
i think if you can do a quick render of the southpaw version so people can compare the two and make a decision
+1 on the idea

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Re: [IC] Mountain Alice - Full-sized Alice: IC FORM is out for southpaw layout!
« Reply #48 on: Mon, 15 February 2021, 18:57:07 »
What a layout, love it!

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Re: [IC] Mountain Alice - Full-sized Alice: IC FORM is out for southpaw layout!
« Reply #49 on: Tue, 16 February 2021, 06:53:04 »
+1 for southpaw, I forgot to mention the mirrored numpad for southpaw in the IC form.

TY for making this, would be my first ergo Alice style keyboard if this some to fruition