[CLOSED] [GB] Alt Controller Board for HHKB

[hasu]

Now this GB is closed and you can buy this from my new artisan service thread.
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=71517.0





I'd distribute my extra controller boards to mitigate expense of development(and get a beer it is gas/lube to me when coding and soldering).
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=12047.0



PCB design files and firmware source code ara available here.
https://github.com/tmk/HHKB_controller
https://github.com/tmk/tmk_keyboard/tree/master/keyboard/hhkb

Sample firmware is loaded to the board for test purpose, but you are required to learn how to compile and load your own configuration.

Post here if you have question or suggestion about this distribution.


UPDATE:
2015/03/29 changed price: $39->$40
2015/04/04 all of listed orders were invoiced.
2015/04/12 added keymap editor for BT controller. See MANUAL/Keymap section below.
2015/05/01 closed this GB and moved to artisan service.

RULE:
0. Read this post carefully and ask me if you have a question before palce a order.
1. PM(Personal Message) and let me know which controller you need(USB or BT, Pro2 or JP), your location/country and email address for notification(optional).
2. When the boards become available you will get PM from me. You don't have to pay until then.
3. If no response to my PM within three days you will be postponed/removed from the list.



CONDITION:
Price:
    $40 + $8(shipping) = $48USD in total [for USB Controller]
    $80 + $10(shipping) = $90USD $75 + $9(shipping) = $84USD in total [for Bluetooth Controller]
Payment: via Paypal
Shipping: Registered Small Packet with tracking and insurance


DISCLAIMER:
USE AT YOUR OWN RISK. I can not be liable for any damage.
NO FRIENDLY CUSTOMER SUPPORT. You are required to teach yourself first.
NOT PROFESSIONAL JOB. I'm not a professional.
NOT LEAD FREE. I use leaded solder to assemble.


CONTROLLER VARIANTS:
USB Pro2 - you can order
USB JP - you can order
Bluetooth Pro2 - you can order
Bluetooth JP - read

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Bluetooth JP Controller is possible electronically but to install the board you have to overcome its case problem.
See this photo, black one is JP model while white is Pro2. As you can see JP bottom case has no hole for switch and LEDs. To install the controller into JP 1) you need to drill bottom case to make holes or 2) you can use Pro2 bottom half with JP top half as the photo indicates.
http://i.imgur.com/c6Rcxff.jpg

Bluetooth controller can be used as USB controller too, see this post.
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=56494.msg1595705#msg1595705
Capabilities: TBD
Limiations: TBD


NOTE:
- USB controller has two variants Pro2 and JP due to connector difference. Pro2 controller fits for model 'Professional2' and 'Professional2 Type-S' while JP controller fits for model 'Professional JP' and 'Professional JP Type-S'. (HHKB lineup)
- Bluetooth controller supports only Professional2 and Professional2 Type-S. (As for JP see above.)
- This does not fits for HHKB Pro1. https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=56494.msg1277498#msg1277498
- No USB Hub function. https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=56494.msg1542413#msg1542413


REVISIONS:

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ALL REVISIONS HAS NO ERRATA FOR USB CONTROLLER
Rev.A: 2013/06
Rev.B: 2014/03
Rev.C: 2014/08
Rev.D: 2014/10  Fix for Bluetooth https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=56494.msg1541485#msg1541485
Rev.E: 2014/11  Fix for Bluetooth https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=56494.msg1556749#msg1556749
Rev.F: 2014/12
Rev.F(batch2): 2015/01
Rev.G: 2015/03 https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=56494.msg1675635#msg1675635

MANUAL:
Firmware/Keymap

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Keymap Editor
You can try HHKB keymap editor first. You can download pre-build firmware after editing your keymap. It use a bit old and not full functional firmware but it will work.

http://www.tmk-kbd.com/tmk_keyboard/editor/index.html



Build firmware
To edit your keymap and build firmware check these documents. To use some functions and tweak keymap thoroughly you need to build yourself.
https://github.com/tmk/tmk_keyboard
https://github.com/tmk/tmk_keyboard/blob/master/doc/keymap.md
https://github.com/tmk/tmk_keyboard/blob/master/doc/build.md
https://github.com/tmk/tmk_keyboard/wiki/FAQ

In short,

Code: [Select]

$ cd keyboard/hhkb

and

Code: [Select]

make -f Makefilefor USB

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$ make -f Makefile.rn42for BT

Installation

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1. Unscrew three bolts on bottom and open case.


2. Unscrew bolt at top left on board and unmate connector to remove original board.
Note that you don't need any tool to unmate. See this.


3. Mate connector of Alt board and screw.
For Bluetooth: Connect Lipo battery to board. Battery should be fixed with double sided adhesive tape or something but too strong stickyness may deform and damage battery when you remove it.


4. Close case and scew bolts.

Bluetooth Controller

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BT Switch
This turn on Bluetooth function of controller and switch keyboard into BT mode. When this switch is off keyboard works in USB mode.

BT LED
It lights red when Bluetooth is connected to host, blinks red(once per second) when waiting for connection and blinks red(10 times per second) when Bluetooth module is config mode.

Power LED
When keyboard are powered with USB it lights green if battery is fully charged or ligths red if charging. And it also lights red to alarm when not powered and battery is low.

Charging with USB
Lipo battery can be charged when keyboard is powered with USB cable. You can power it with USB port on PC and 5V USB power adapter. Charging battery with low voltage takes long time or can't charge full. Note that cheap or unpowered USB hub may not be able to supply enough power.

Paring
You can connect keyboard with OS specific method during red BT LED is blinking. You can make up to eight pairing with different hosts, according to manual of RN-42.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bluetooth#Pairing_and_bonding


Auto Connect
Keyboard is automatically connected to host once pairing process is done. Keyboard is always connected host to which keyboard connected last time.
This means you can't connect keyboad to other hosts when the last host are in reachable range. In this case you will have to make keyboard into paring mode forcibly using magic command and redo pairing process.

Magic commands
Prefix of magic command are LShift + RShift.

- i displays Bluetooth information on hid_listen console.
- b displays battery voltage on console.
- Delete enter/exits Bluetoot module RN-42 config mode on console. See RN-42 manual.
- Scroll Lock initialize module with TMK default configuration.
- p put keyboard into paring mode focibly.
- u switches between USB and Bluetooth mode.

RN-42 config mode
You need hid_listen to access this mode. You can change configuration of Bluetooth module with this. Don't change baud rate! Never! Firmware will lose access to the modlue and you need to communicate to the module with 3.3V UART adapter hardware to fix this problem.

See this for configuration commands.
http://ww1.microchip.com/downloads/en/DeviceDoc/bluetooth_cr_UG-v1.0r.pdf

Bluetooth Battery

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BT Controller doesn't include battery. I can recommend Sparkfun Lipo battery(850mA or 1000mA) but you will be able to find proper batteries at many sites on the net.

You need to use 3.7V Lithium Ion Polymer battery with JST PH 2pin connector and battery protection circuit. Battery space inside HHKB is around 54mm x 50mm and its height is 7mm(or 8mm).
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=56494.msg1597883#msg1597883

LIPO BATTERY IS VERY DANGEROUS, TAKE EXTRA CARE OF YOUR SAFETY AND PROPERTY. For your safety check this.
https://learn.adafruit.com/li-ion-and-lipoly-batteries
https://www.sparkfun.com/tutorials/241

WAITING LIST:
If you want to add your name on the list, PM(Personal Message) and let me know which controller you need(USB or BT, Pro2 or JP), your location/country and email address for notification(optional).
Read this post carefully and ask me if you have a question.

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For USB board

No back order.
Currently lead time is very short. This list won't be updated.(04/20)

For BT board

No back order.
Currently lead time is very short. This list won't be updated.(04/20)

PROCESSING STATUS:

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mashby              10/14   01/06   -----   -----   -----   -----       -
HoffmanMyster       10/14   01/06   01/08   01/08   01/08   01/17       F
Vizir               10/22   01/06   01/07   -----   -----   -----       -
jahkeup             10/25   01/06   01/07   01/07   01/07   01/24       F
jaemzp              11/03   01/10   01/12   01/12   01/13   02/01       F
cooldiscretion      11/14   01/06   01/07   -----   -----   -----       -
                                                                         
woodada             11/14   01/08   01/08   01/08   01/08   01/26       F
kaesve              11/16   01/08   01/09   01/09   01/09   01/14       F
osxoep              11/16   01/08   01/10   01/10   01/13   01/19       F
                                                                         
esoomenona          03/30   01/30   01/31   01/31   02/02   02/10       Fb
Matt3o              12/05   01/30   01/30   01/30   02/02   03/04       Fb
argcargv            10/11   01/30   01/30   -----   -----   -----       -
naasfu              10/18   01/30   02/01   02/01   02/02   02/10       Fb
bazh                10/30   01/30   01/30   -----   -----   -----       -
yicaoyimu           11/16   02/04   02/04   02/04   02/04   02/13       Fb
                                                                         
Elocutive           11/16   02/04   02/04   -----   -----   -----       -
Synjin              11/16   02/04   02/04   02/04   02/04   02/15       F
Jakes               11/20   02/04   02/05   02/05   02/05   02/18       F
tpc2084             01/16   02/04   02/04   02/04   02/04   02/13       F
                                                                         
amzee               11/17   02/15   02/18   -----   -----   -----       -
shawn24             11/20   02/15   02/15   02/15   02/23   03/04       F
shawn24             11/20   02/22   02/22   02/22   02/23   03/04       Fb
rssll               11/18   02/18   -----   -----   -----   -----       -
                                                                           
tzskp1              12/01   02/22   02/22   02/22   02/23   02/24       F
frontier            12/03   02/22   -----   -----   -----   -----       -
IonutZ              12/19   02/22   03/10   03/10   03/16   03/28       Fb
Vizir               10/22   02/22   02/22   -----   -----   -----       -
 
deci                09/20   02/22   02/22   02/22   02/23   03/21       Fb         
rdev5               12/04   02/22   -----   -----   -----   -----       --
x1a0                12/09   02/22   02/26   02/26   02/27   03/07       Fb
 
jmolino             12/29   02/27   03/06   03/10   03/10   03/25       Fb
P233                01/10   02/27   02/27   02/28   03/02   03/07       F           
tinymao             01/13   02/27   02/27   02/27   02/27   03/04       F           
MJ45                01/16   02/27   02/27   03/01   03/02   03/09       F           
 
Cakered             03/07   03/07   03/07   03/07   03/09   03/13       Fj
yankez001           03/13   03/13   03/13   03/13   03/13   03/16       Fj         
 
TheOtherAdam        01/16   03/27   03/27   03/27   03/27   04/10       G           
exitfire401         01/16   03/27   03/27   -----   -----   -----       --         
trizkut             01/16   03/27   03/27   03/27   03/27   04/06       G
Finn                01/17   03/27   03/27   03/27   03/30               G           
rjradical           01/21   03/27   03/27   03/28   03/30   04/11       G           
RoastPotatoes       02/11   03/27   03/27   03/27   03/30   04/07       G           
 
byker               01/03   03/29   03/29   03/29   03/30   04/09       Fb
Vizir               01/07   03/29   03/29   03/29   03/30   04/08       Gb         
cooldiscretion      11/14   03/29   -----   -----   -----   -----       --         
coolbho3k           01/16   03/29   -----   -----   -----   -----       --         
 
yaro_b              02/11   03/29   03/29   03/29   03/30   04/05       G           
steve.v             02/16   03/29   03/29   03/29   04/01   04/09       G           
evera               02/21   03/29   -----   -----   -----   -----       --         
beestingza          02/23   03/29   04/02                               G           
pexon               02/23   03/29   -----   -----   -----   -----       --
whodevil            02/27   03/29   03/30   03/30   03/30   04/10       G           
duq                 03/03   03/29   04/01   04/01   04/01               G           
snakeyes            03/04   03/29   03/30   03/30   04/01               G
 
Synjin              01/16   03/29   03/29   03/29   03/30               G           
 
btctopre            03/10   04/01   04/01   04/01   04/01               G           
kvictor             03/11   04/01   -----   -----   -----   -----       --         
JanitorJoe          03/22   04/01   04/01   04/01   04/02   04/11       G           
Bucake              03/25   04/01   04/02   04/02   04/03               G
posmicanomaly       03/28   04/01   04/01   04/01   04/01   04/09       G
moralles            01/17   04/01   04/01   04/01   04/01               Gb         
Sygaldry            12/10   04/01   04/03   04/04   04/06               Gb         
tuantruong          01/27   04/01   -----   -----   -----   -----       --
 
FrostyToast         02/21   04/02   04/03   04/04   04/06   04/11       Gb         
redskull            03/06   04/02   -----   -----   -----   -----       --         
darkshu             03/13   04/02   04/02   04/02   04/03   04/11       Gb         
 
xorkbd              04/02   04/03   04/03   04/03   04/06   04/07       G           
 
braidn              03/15   04/04   04/09                               Gb         
Greed               03/17   04/04   04/04   04/04   04/06               Gb
Pemdas              03/21   04/04   04/04   04/04   04/06               Gb         
shrubkeys           03/28   04/04   04/07   04/11                       Gb
moda38              03/28   04/04   04/04   04/05   04/06               Gb         
jackiecanev2        04/03   04/04   04/04   04/04   04/06               Gb         
 
kubatyszko          04/04   04/04   04/04   04/05   04/06   04/07       Fj
Sherlock            04/04   04/04   04/06   04/06   04/06               Gb
Belfong             04/04   04/04   04/05   -----   -----   -----       --
 
jeff95723           04/07   04/07   04/07   04/07   04/07               Gb
 
yomammary           04/09   04/09   04/09   04/09   04/10               Gb
RoboKrikit          04/09   04/10   04/10   04/10   04/10               G

LaPoune             04/10   04/10   04/10   04/12   04/15                 
justinyhuang        04/11   04/11   04/13   -----   -----   -----       --
CalvinW             04/12   04/12   04/12   04/12   04/15                 
SeeThruHead         04/12   04/12   -----   -----   -----   -----       --
ryukojiro           04/13   04/13   04/17   04/17   04/20               G*
Oatburner           04/14   04/14   04/14   04/14   04/15               G
                                                                           
tinymao             04/17   04/17   04/17   04/17   04/20               Gb
xiaosilent          04/17   04/17   04/17   04/17   04/20               Gb
matobaa             04/17   04/17   04/17   04/17   04/20               G
thefebruaryman      04/18   04/18   04/18   04/18   04/20               G
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[jdcarpe]

Just a show of support for this, and to say that I am still in, whenever my turn comes.

Thanks hasu for all your efforts in making this available!

[BunnyLake]

super sad i missed getting my name up for this

id love to be added to that extensive list and im down whenever

[SpAmRaY]

super sad i missed getting my name up for this

id love to be added to that extensive list and im down whenever

If hasu would go for it you can take my slot since I no longer have a HHKB.

[BunnyLake]

super sad i missed getting my name up for this

id love to be added to that extensive list and im down whenever

If hasu would go for it you can take my slot since I no longer have a HHKB.

thanks brother man

[hasu]

SpAmRaY, removed. Thanks for letting me know.
BunnyLake, you cannot take SpAmRaY's place but I added at bottom of the list.

[Sifo]

Throw me onto the list when you can hasu <3

[esoomenona]

Awww yiss, #3. My body is ready.

[argcargv]

Good luck with your work hasu!

[duq]

Please add me to this list. Pleaseeeeeee! How was this so fast?

[hasu]

Sifo, duq, you are added.
But note that this distribution does not work like typical group buy process and I can not promise. It'll take very long if it takes place.

[sth]

Hi hasu,

any issues with HHKB pro1? if not i would be interested in getting my name on the list for future boards.

[hasu]

Unfortunately not fits with Pro1 due to different position of USB receptacle and different header connector.

[sth]

Unfortunately not fits with Pro1 due to different position of USB receptacle and different header connector.

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ah i forgot about the connector.

well if you ever make one for pro1 (since you have at least one) i would be willing to pick one up if you do a production run :)

[Glissant]

 If I can be added to the list I'd love to be on it. You know; just in case .

[Sifo]

Sifo, duq, you are added.
But note that this distribution does not work like typical group buy process and I can not promise. It'll take very long if it takes place.

I understand, no problems

[duq]

Sifo, duq, you are added.
But note that this distribution does not work like typical group buy process and I can not promise. It'll take very long if it takes place.

I understand, no problems

+1. Very reasonable Hasu! Thanks for doing this btw, your efforts have really been one of the main reasons GH is one of the better online communities.

[angelic_sedition]

Would this fit a hhkb pro jp?

[hasu]

It will work with JP. PCB has solder pads for JP connector.
But firmware is not ready. I have to get JP to test it.

[Khamidulla Inoyatov]

Hi Hasu,

Thank you for your effort I am want to buy one of this boards. So can you add me to your list. I will wait as much as needed. Thank you in advance.

[hasu]

Sorry for long silence, I'm finally testing Bluetooth part of PCB rev.B now and I found some defects on that. This means I need to fix the design and order new rev.C PCBs, I'll be able to work on the fix job soon, I hope rev.C come before so long.(rev.C order will amount to 10 PCBs)

BTW the defects are related only to Bluetooth, so no worry, rev.A and B users!



EDIT: Unfortunately it is not tested with HHKB JP yet, I couldn't get JP sofar.

[hasu]

Finally I got JP and tested rev.B PCB and it works! TMK firmware also was updated for JP.
http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=12047.msg1394350#msg1394350

Now Alt controller board supports Pro2 and JP(including both of Type-S's). You can get the controller for Pro2 or JP, but not for both due to difference of their connector. If you want to change your order to JP, PM me.


From left JP, Pro2, Pro, Alt JP and Alt Pro2.

[hasu]

Sorry for long wait.

I'd like to just inform you about current status of this distribution. I got Rev.C PCBs a while back but MCU ATMega32u4 is hardly available from any supplyers now. This scarcity of the component prevents me from assembling the controllers unfortunately. With my last stock of the MCU I made only two controllers assembled and now I can't do anything till it becomes available again.
http://octopart.com/atmega32u4-au-atmel-10466143

Thank you for your patience.

[hasu]

Status update:

I got 25 MCUs from Mouser which offer the lowest price and shipped all leftover Rev.C boards. ATMega32U4 supply problem has gone now, the price is not good though. I have 20 MCUs in hand and I ordered new 20 Rev.D boards today, next batch will be done in several weeks.

[esoomenona]

What has been changing in the past couple revisions of the PCB?

[hasu]

In rev.D some test points, solder jumpers and unused capacitor were removed. And added two dual color LEDs and FET for swtiching battery monitor ADC. Also changed layout of voltage converters to use bigger tantalum capacitor.(C15) Most of changes are in Bluetooth part.


Rev.C and D.

[jorgenslee]

In rev.D some test points, solder jumpers and unused capacitor were removed. And added two dual color LEDs and FET for swtiching battery monitor ADC. Also changed layout of voltage converters to use bigger tantalum capacitor.(C15) Most of changes are in Bluetooth part.


Rev.C and D.

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Cool. Will the next batch of contoller you will release is Rev D? About the battery on Rev. D. What battery are you going to use? Will it fit inside the HHKB?

[hasu]

Lipo 850mAh/1000mAh from Sparkfun is used as you can see in photo posted a while back.
http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=56494.msg1385762#msg1385762

[jorgenslee]

Lipo 850mAh/1000mAh from Sparkfun is used as you can see in photo posted a while back.
http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=56494.msg1385762#msg1385762

Thanks hasu. Looking forward to this. Do you have an estimate on the availability of this? and how many would be available.

[hasu]

At first, it'll be released to test and evaluate for some who can help the development. Before this release I have to fix circuit design and clean codes, this'll need more a few revisions. I hope these will happen in this year.

You can access files under development here.
https://github.com/tmk/HHKB_controller/
https://github.com/tmk/tmk_keyboard/tree/rn42/keyboard/hhkb_rn42

[dustinhxc]

Id LOVE one of these for my JP as long as it wouldnt hurt the main PCB unit at all. Dont want to brick it since it costed a ton to get into the US.

Though, it would be amazing to not have to use autohotkey.  Great work man!

[argcargv]

Id LOVE one of these for my JP as long as it wouldnt hurt the main PCB unit at all. Dont want to brick it since it costed a ton to get into the US.

Though, it would be amazing to not have to use autohotkey.  Great work man!

Hasu's board replaces the original controller pcb completely and the wirings are very neat. Functionally the firmware is way better than autohotkeys so you will not be disappointed!

[dustinhxc]

Id LOVE one of these for my JP as long as it wouldnt hurt the main PCB unit at all. Dont want to brick it since it costed a ton to get into the US.

Though, it would be amazing to not have to use autohotkey.  Great work man!

Hasu's board replaces the original controller pcb completely and the wirings are very neat. Functionally the firmware is way better than autohotkeys so you will not be disappointed!

That is great to hear, I'll be following this. Thank you!

[phatdood9]

Just want to say thanks to hasu for this the controller. I installed it last night, built some firmware and was up and running in minutes! I was using some software hacks for multiple layers/double tap ctrl, this works so much better!

[hasu]

Status update:

I ordered Rev.D PCB on Sep.19 and PCB fab shipped them on Sep.24 but I'm still waiting for.
Due to Chinese golden week holiday at begining of Oct, so I guess the delivery is stuck somewhere

Once I get the 20 PCBs I'll be able to start soldering job immediately. Other components are ready now.

[hasu]

Good news:
Got PCBs yesterday and I'm doing soldering job now. I'll be able to finish 10 or something boards in this week end.

Bad news:
The price of MCU got increased again Parhaps I have to change price of my controller in next batch.

[dustinhxc]

Good news:
Got PCBs yesterday and I'm doing soldering job now. I'll be able to finish 10 or something boards in this week end.

Bad news:
The price of MCU got increased again Parhaps I have to change price of my controller in next batch.

Awesome, I wonder how far down I am on the list. haha

Edit, holy crap I'm like 50th I think. It'll be a year I guess, reading the list.

[jorgenslee]

Good news:
Got PCBs yesterday and I'm doing soldering job now. I'll be able to finish 10 or something boards in this week end.

Bad news:
The price of MCU got increased again Parhaps I have to change price of my controller in next batch.

Oh man, I'm so excited. This will have the BT feature right? - Edit. I think it was answered in the previous page. silly me.

Unfortunately, I'm the 20th on the list.

[Matter]

How do I get added to the list?

[Glissant]

jorgenslee, you can hope that a bunch of people don't reply to Hasu when he contacts them .

[hasu]

How do I get added to the list?

Plz read frist post of this thread.
TLDR; PM me and let me know your HHKB model and country.

[echo0]

Sent PM to be added to the waiting list.

Thanks...   

[jorgenslee]

jorgenslee, you can hope that a bunch of people don't reply to Hasu when he contacts them .

Haha, you read my mind.


Hasu, since this round will be more on testing, does the one who gets this round will be able to get another one/chance after the final release of Version D(BT) is released?

[hasu]

Hasu, since this round will be more on testing, does the one who gets this round will be able to get another one/chance after the final release of Version D(BT) is released?

You can cancel it and wait for wireless one further longer, let me know if you want to do so.

[Khamidulla Inoyatov]

Dear Hasu,

Is currently bluetooth working or not in rev. D?

[hasu]

Hi,
I think it should work but not working at this point
Maybe problem is firmware or configuration, not hardware design hopefully.

[jorgenslee]

Hi,
I think it should work but not working at this point
Maybe problem is firmware or configuration, not hardware design hopefully.

Does that mean the pcb you are distributing now which is version D is capable of bluetooth but is not enable yet?

In this planned wireless version of controller, is it a hybrid solution? where connecting the keyboard to usb will use the usb connection and charge the battery at the same time?

I saw the message you sent and I am really torn on what to choose.

[hasu]

Yes, revD has capability of BT if you mount components for wireless. Probably it is very close to final design and will be compatible to future firmware. But l don't confirm its wireless function fully yet. I have no time to do so recently.

My controller is hybrid of USB and bluetooth and switchable. At first you can control power of BT module with slide switch on back side. When BT is off it behaves as normal USB keyboard except for charging Lipo battery. When BT is on and plug in USB you can switch two protocols with specific key combo or the slide switch.

[margo baggins]

Got mine

thanks so much hasu!

[MJ45]

Mine came in today, Thanks hasu for making this awesome programable HHKB controller possible. M.J.

[jorgenslee]

Wife got the controller today. So excited to get home. Thanks hasu.

[hasu]

I got Rev.E PCB today, ten boards will be available from this revision.

And I have to raise price to $2 with revision due to change of MCU chip cost. Now the board costs $47 in total.
Sorry.

[esoomenona]

No need to apologize for that. Not in your control, and these things are well worth the cost.

[naasfu]

I installed hasu's controller today and am currently trying out the SpaceFN layout.  Thank you, hasu.  This is really awesome!

[yicaoyimu]

Looks like I will get this awesome controller in the next batch! Best news for today!

[x1a0]

Looks like I will get this awesome controller in the next batch! Best news for today!

If so then I am in next batch too! So excited! Great work! 

[lowpoly]

Got it today. Finally I can use my HHKB again, with Colemak and the Fn layer I'm used to! Thank you hasu!

[hasu]

Really thanks for your support, guys.

Rev.E boards are ready to ship now, I sent PM to top ten people on the list.

[Jakes]

I'd love to get on the list for an alt controller!  PM me when available please

[byker]

Really thanks for your support, guys.

Rev.E boards are ready to ship now, I sent PM to top ten people on the list.

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Oh nice job Hasu!

[jdcarpe]

hasu, once you get the BT working, will it be possible to use what you have learned to let us know hox to "fix" the earlier PCB revisions?

I have a Rev C and, if I want to get it running with BT, I'm not afraid to cut traces and run some jumper wire as a workaround.

[aliceinwire]

there is some way to add a usb hub to the board ?

[hasu]

hasu, once you get the BT working, will it be possible to use what you have learned to let us know hox to "fix" the earlier PCB revisions?

I have a Rev C and, if I want to get it running with BT, I'm not afraid to cut traces and run some jumper wire as a workaround.

Yep, I'll be able to document about patching old revisions. I have only memo of patcch for rev.D here now.


PATCH for Rev.D PCB
===================
With Rev.D to implements Bluetooth components you better have these fixes. It will work whitout fixes but these will make battery life a little bit longer.
 
Charger leak Fix
----------------
Without this MCU is powered with leakage current of Lipo charger MCP73831 even when swich is off.
 
Cut trace which runs from 'NoPPTC' solder jumper to 'PPTC' and place schottky diode on 'PPTC' lands with direction presented in picture.
 
ADC Switch Fix
--------------
Without this MCU is powered through ADC pin from Lipo battery.
Place components as located in picture.
 
http://i.imgur.com/EJhoeVUl.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/4MWi1xql.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/mfR2xtTl.jpg[FIXED 2014/12/09] http://i.imgur.com/sklO4KDl.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/ExQrgwzl.jpg


EDIT: and BOM: https://github.com/tmk/HHKB_controller/blob/master/BOM.txt
EDIT: fixed schematic image 12/09

[jdcarpe]

hasu, once you get the BT working, will it be possible to use what you have learned to let us know hox to "fix" the earlier PCB revisions?

I have a Rev C and, if I want to get it running with BT, I'm not afraid to cut traces and run some jumper wire as a workaround.

Yep, I'll be able to document about patching old revisions. I have only memo of patcch for rev.D here now.


PATCH for Rev.D PCB
===================
With Rev.D to implements Bluetooth components you better have these fixes. It will work whitout fixes but these will make battery life a little bit longer.
 
Charger leak Fix
----------------
Without this MCU is powered with leakage current of Lipo charger MCP73831 even when swich is off.
 
Cut trace which runs from 'NoPPTC' solder jumper to 'PPTC' and place schottky diode on 'PPTC' lands with direction presented in picture.
 
ADC Switch Fix
--------------
Without this MCU is powered through ADC pin from Lipo battery.
Place components as located in picture.
 
http://i.imgur.com/EJhoeVUl.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/4MWi1xql.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/sklO4KDl.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/ExQrgwzl.jpg

Woo! I'm willing to substitute in stuff from Sparkfun, if necessary. haha

[hasu]

there is some way to add a usb hub to the board ?

You can mod with Alt controller like this.
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=57008.msg1491318#msg1491318

Or someone can design Alt controller which has hub function on board, of course but I for one don't use hub of HHKB and have no plan to do it for a while.

[aliceinwire]

there is some way to add a usb hub to the board ?

You can mod with Alt controller like this.
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=57008.msg1491318#msg1491318

Or someone can design Alt controller which has hub function on board, of course but I for one don't use hub of HHKB and have no plan to do it for a while.

so, how you close the hole in the back of the hhkb?
looks not so good :/

[hasu]

Make 3d print covers, close with epoxy putty or just tape it?

I've had a plan to make covers with 3D printer or resin cast but I don't have 3D printer, casting equipment and any experience of them, I think someone can do better job.

Or buy two USB A receptacles and hot glue them on Alt board so that it looks like stock HHKB Pro2.
http://akizukidenshi.com/catalog/g/gC-07674/

[hasu]

I tested Rev.E and fixed a stupid bug of ADC resistor dividor again. If you want to implement components to get Bluetooth to work you need this fix.
Though, no error for USB controller.

Rev.E Fix   
---------   
Q4 Pch FET drain and source pins are reversed stupidly in schematic and PCB on this revision.
You need to solder the FET upside down like this, really shame.           
http://i.imgur.com/U6UnzaYl.jpg

[aliceinwire]

 
i will try to fix when i can but looks scary mod

[Sturmfrau]

Is USB hub support coming any time soon?

[hasu]

Sorry for very late reply.

No, I have no plan about hub support at this time.

[exitfire401]

I keep putting it off, but I'd like to throw myself on the list for a pro 2 board please 

[hasu]

Bluetooth module RN-42 support was integrated into firmware and hardware design was finalized now. Yes, it works well as Bluetooth keyboard for my usage at least. But due to limitation of the modlue it was not possible to realize all of what I expected, in particular battery life and connectoin switching.(I might be wrong but I won't pursuit any more.) Firmware is not final, I'm sure I'll update the firmware for usability and tuning.

Probably price will be $70-80(not includes battery), yes it is ridiculous.
Think again, you really need Bluetooth? You are welcome if you change your order to USB controller. PM me.

I'll contact some of you who are on wait list for BT controller.

Ask if you have any questons.



Inside and backside look like this. Not slick as consumer products.
You may want to make cover and knob yourself.



Capabitlities:     
- USB keyboard functions
    completely equivarent to USB controller including mouse keys and NKRO.
- Switching between USB and Bluetooth
    You can switch the two connections with BT switch or key combination.
- RN-42 config mode
    You can change power/connection configuration of the module if needed.
- Low battery alert
    Red LED turns on when low voltage.
- RN-42 status indicator
    LED indicates status of Bluetooth connection.
- Pairing           
    The module stores up to 8 connections.
- Auto connect     
    The module connects the last connected device automatically.
- iOS support       
    works as keyboard with iPhone5. No tested completely.
- Android support   
    works as keyboard and mouse with Nexus5. No tested completely.
- Mouse keys over BT
    Note that iOS doesn't accept mouse device.
- Battery charge
    You can charge from USB port or power adapter which has USB outlet.


Limitations:           
- Short battery life   
    Around 12hr with 1000mAh
- No connection switching
    RN-42 auto-connects to the last connected device.
    Some of consumer products can switch between devices, for example Logitech K480.
        http://www.logitech.com/en-us/product/multi-device-keyboard-k480?crid=26
- HHKB JP requires case modification
    You need to drill holes for power switch and LEDs.



NOTE:                 
- Lipo battery is not included. Cannot ship it from Japan due to regulations. See this post for the detail.
- LIPO BATTERY IS VERY DANGEROUS, TAKE EXTRA CARE OF YOUR SAFETY AND PROPERTY. You can learn here.
- No NKRO over Bluetooth
- Check your country's wireless regulations and certification of the module.

RN-42 specification, documenations and certifications:
http://www.microchip.com/wwwproducts/Devices.aspx?product=RN42


You can access files of PCB desgin and firmware here.
https://github.com/tmk/HHKB_controller/ [PCB]
https://github.com/tmk/tmk_keyboard/tree/master/keyboard/hhkb/rn42 [Firmware]

[byker]

Wow Hasu! Thank you for all of your hard work on this project!  I think the end product is phenomenal! I cannot wait to get a bluetooth hhkb running! I think 12 hours of battery life is pretty good, enough to use for most of the day and only have to plug it when when not at the computer.

[HoffmanMyster]

Wow Hasu! Thank you for all of your hard work on this project!  I think the end product is phenomenal! I cannot wait to get a bluetooth hhkb running! I think 12 hours of battery life is pretty good, enough to use for most of the day and only have to plug it when when not at the computer.

My thoughts exactly.  This is excellent work, hasu.      I didn't realize we could pre-order BT boards or I might have done that!   

[Joey Quinn]

Wow Hasu! Thank you for all of your hard work on this project!  I think the end product is phenomenal! I cannot wait to get a bluetooth hhkb running! I think 12 hours of battery life is pretty good, enough to use for most of the day and only have to plug it when when not at the computer.

My thoughts exactly.  This is excellent work, hasu.      I didn't realize we could pre-order BT boards or I might have done that!   

+1 Seriously nice work man. You have put in a ton of work keeping everyone updated on each rev and making changes to the board.


So to make a Rev.E bluetooth I need to make the fix and then source the parts in the BOM and solder them on correct? Is there anyone I could pay to do this for me?

[naasfu]

Hey hasu,

Some dumb Lipo battery questions about the BT version of your controller:
1.  Installing the battery doesn't require any kind of soldering, right?  Can we buy something like this Lipo battery and just plug it into the controller?
2.  How do we recharge one of these Lipo batteries?  Can we do it via a USB cable connected to the controller?  Or would we need to disconnect the battery and use some external charger?

Thanks.   I love your USB controller, and being able to also use BT for my HHKB would be awesome.

[hasu]

Right. You don't need any soldering work.
You need to use 3.7V Lithium Ion battery with JST PH 2pin connector and battery protection circuit is needed.
Battery space inside HHKB is around 54mm x 50mm and its height is 7mm(or 8mm).


That battery you linked has JST connector and protection but it won't fit in the space. I'm using these two Sparkfun Lipo batteries and they works. I can recommend 1000mAh one.
                                                             
Sparkfun 850mAh                                               
https://www.sparkfun.com/products/341                         
Sparkfun 1000mAh                                             
https://www.sparkfun.com/products/339


To charge Lipo battery you just need to plug USB cable into HHKB. BT conroller board has battery charger inside, you don't need external charger. You can charge from normal USB port and USB outlet of wartwart power adapter.

[coolbho3k]

12 hours is a bit short for me, going to try to find a bigger battery online Sparkfun's 2000mah seems to be almost small enough, but a bit bigger than the space. Anyone have any ideas where else in the keyboard where I could fit a big battery? It seems like there is a lot of empty space in the keyboard.

[HoffmanMyster]

12 hours is a bit short for me, going to try to find a bigger battery online Sparkfun's 2000mah seems to be almost small enough, but a bit bigger than the space. Anyone have any ideas where else in the keyboard where I could fit a big battery?

I am not an expert on the subject and I have not read all of the two threads I'm about to link, but they might be good resources to check out.

Smasher816's Teensy mod for HHKB
Smasher816's Bluetooth mod for the aforementioned Teensy-modded HHKB

Just glancing through (and having seen it in person), I'm suspecting that maybe going the Teensy route can give you more room internally, which would allow for a bigger battery.  Might be worth looking into.   

[hasu]

Thanks for your support, guys.
I'm waiting for PCB now and I'll start soldering five BT boards as the first batch next week, in additon to USB boards.


If you want bigger battery
this battery will be the biggest that can be installed inside. manisteinn found it at aliexpress. It is reportedly a bit thick and interfares with bottom of upper component but he could put together back.
See his installation here. http://imgur.com/a/oX2Vr


https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=12047.msg1558708#msg1558708

[Sygaldry]

Thanks for your support, guys.
I'm waiting for PCB now and I'll start soldering five BT boards as the first batch next week, in additon to USB boards.


If you want bigger battery
this battery will be the biggest that can be installed inside. manisteinn found it at aliexpress. It is reportedly a bit thick and interfares with bottom of upper component but he could put together back.
See his installation here. http://imgur.com/a/oX2Vr

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https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=12047.msg1558708#msg1558708

This is awesome! Thanks for doing this, Hasu! I can't wait for my turn to come up =]

[coolbho3k]

Not as good as my tablet's keyboard that supposedly lasts half a year idle but I'll take the HHKB anyday

[Jakes]

Throwing myself at the mercy of the board: I'm an idiot and plugged my HHKB2 (this style http://elitekeyboards.com/products.php?sub=pfu_keyboards,hhkbpro2&pid=pdkb400b) into a USB1 hub and fried the poor controller board.  If anyone has replaced their controller board and is willing to sell their stock one to me I would love to buy it and raise my KB from the dead.  I can pay with paypal

[Moralless]

Throwing myself at the mercy of the board: I'm an idiot and plugged my HHKB2 (http://elitekeyboards.com/products.php?sub=pfu_keyboards,hhkbpro2&pid=pdkb400b) into a USB1 hub and fried the poor controller board.  If anyone has replaced there default controller board and is willing to sell their stock controller board I would love to buy it and raise my KB from the dead.  I can pay with paypal

If you don't really use the USB on the HHKB itself, then you could try to make your own controller with a teensy powered by hasu's tmk firmware. Here's a great write up about it by Smasher. This mod allows for complete programmability of the layout but at the cost of not being able to use the USB hub.

[Jakes]

If you don't really use the USB on the HHKB itself, then you could try to make your own controller with a teensy powered by hasu's tmk firmware. Here's a great write up about it by Smasher. This mod allows for complete programmability of the layout but at the cost of not being able to use the USB hub.

Thank you for the reply Moralles; I'll give that a look - nowhere to go but up from here right

[coolbho3k]

Throwing myself at the mercy of the board: I'm an idiot and plugged my HHKB2 (this style http://elitekeyboards.com/products.php?sub=pfu_keyboards,hhkbpro2&pid=pdkb400b) into a USB1 hub and fried the poor controller board.  If anyone has replaced their controller board and is willing to sell their stock one to me I would love to buy it and raise my KB from the dead.  I can pay with paypal

Why would that fry it? Just curious. Thought USB2 was supposed to be 100% backwards compatible.

[Jakes]

Why would that fry it? Just curious. Thought USB2 was supposed to be 100% backwards compatible.

I am not sure why myself.  It was fairly old and cheap.  Everything seemed fine for a few minutes and then it started to smell like something was melting all of a sudden.  When I plugged it back into my main computer it failed to recognize the USB device. 

The teensy mod looks like exactly what I need.  I ordered two just in case I mess up the first go around 

[coolbho3k]

Why would that fry it? Just curious. Thought USB2 was supposed to be 100% backwards compatible.

I am not sure why myself.  It was fairly old and cheap.  Everything seemed fine for a few minutes and then it started to smell like something was melting all of a sudden.  When I plugged it back into my main computer it failed to recognize the USB device. 

The teensy mod looks like exactly what I need.  I ordered two just in case I mess up the first go around 

Yikes. Hope your keyboard PCB wasn't damaged or anything and it was just the controller board. Good luck.

[osxoep]

hasu, I'm not sure if you got my PM (it was over a week ago) but I received the board and it works really well! Thanks for all your hard work.

[hasu]

Great! I hope you enjoy it.
Yes I got your PM but I forgot to reply, sorry. It seems like tracking system doesn't work well between UK and JP and doesn't have 'final delivery' mark on your item yet. Thanks for letting me know.

hasu, I'm not sure if you got my PM (it was over a week ago) but I received the board and it works really well! Thanks for all your hard work.

[hasu]

Today some of BT controllers from first batch are shipped today. I assembled five boards in this batch last week and USB controllers will be soldered, next.

And I wrote simple manual for BT controller in first post.
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=56494.0

[rdev5]

Throwing myself at the mercy of the board: I'm an idiot and plugged my HHKB2 (this style http://elitekeyboards.com/products.php?sub=pfu_keyboards,hhkbpro2&pid=pdkb400b) into a USB1 hub and fried the poor controller board.  If anyone has replaced their controller board and is willing to sell their stock one to me I would love to buy it and raise my KB from the dead.  I can pay with paypal

I still have my original that's been sitting in the box since I received the alternate HHKB Pro 2 keyboard controller from hasu. I'm actually only revisiting these threads now because it looks like I'm up for ordering the BT version so I could use some change to help offset the cost

Send me a PM if you're still looking for the original controller board for HHKB Pro 2.

[rdev5]

Also, regarding the BT controller that's now out, should we be concerned with Bluetooth hacking as a form of remote keylogging?

http://hackyogi.com/top-5-bluetooth-hacking-tools/

Obviously we use things like Bluetooth and WiFi on a day-to-day basis at our own risk (or how about the Internet? but I wanted to at least point that out. To be honest, I haven't thought about it much until just now that this would affect any Bluetooth technology and not just this controller board.

One additional thought I had is adding flash memory; something sort of like an onboard solid-state storage medium similar to that of a USB drive so when you connect the keyboard over USB, it would also mount a removable disk for you to be able to drag/drop files from the OS and be able to access it in the controller's firmware/code. I know this is essentially approaching an OS environment for the HHKB Pro 2, but I'm looking at it from the perspective of perhaps extending the head room for compiled code to run due to existing size limitations and even some kind of bi-directional communication between the board the host it's connected to.

I haven't tried this yet, but is it possible to establish a socket connection in code at this point or is that pretty much outside the parameters of what the board can store or handle? Bah, I guess it'd be outside the scope since there's no TCP/IP stack or anything like that. I guess what I was going after was something like the Arduino Ethernet board: http://arduino.cc/en/Main/ArduinoBoardEthernet

Oh well

[Glissant]

I hope to one day be able to get the controller with the BT module. The controller by itself is a lot of fun, but having it wireless would be insanely awesome. Thanks again for all your hard work!

[HoffmanMyster]

As I've started using my HHKB with this controller more and more, I'm noticing an odd behavior with the function layer. 

If I press fn + arrow, then release the arrow but continue to hold fn (in anticipation of pressing another arrow key very soon), the cursor/whatever will continue in the initial arrow direction as if I've continued to press it down.  Was this intentional?  Is there a way to fix it? 

There is also a half-second delay between the initial arrow press and the first time the cursor moves, which is bothering me as well.

This happens with most of the keys in the function layer.

I understand that these are programmable, but is this sort of behavior something that we can adjust ourselves?  I haven't attempted to reprogram the layout and am not sure where to start with that, but I haven't done much digging so that's not the intent of this post. 

[hasu]

HoffmanMyster,
it is totally weird to me too. It is not intentional at all there are somethong wrong.
You are still using default keymap I uploaded when shipping, right? If so you should not have those problem at all.

Low voltage may cause some problem but looks to me like it is unlikely. Just plug in USB port of PC directly if you are using unpowered hub or something. Or try other PC if available.

And I'd suspect connection and hardware problem. Unmate HHKB internal connector of HHKB and reconnect it firmly. If this doesn't resolve your problem, try orignal controller and confirm your HHKB has no problem.

[hasu]

And I'd like to let you know that HHKB uses naive and delicate capacitve swithes, you have to place switch board and controller properly in its case, or you may have some weird behaviours.(BTW, screws are not so important, you can keep it unscrewed.) Don't place them direlcty on desktop or something when it turns on.

This is for 'just in case', ignore if you installed properly.

[naasfu]

I just received my 1000mAh battery from SparkFun today, and finally got around to installing hasu's new BT version of the controller and the battery into my HHKB.  This thing is super duper awesome!  I paired my HHKB with my iPhone and also my laptop, and so far everything works very well.  The range is really impressive; I was able to use the HHKB with my laptop which was over 20 feet away.

When compiling the firmware, don't make the same dumb mistake I did.  After tinkering around with my board for a bit, the Bluetooth functionality stopped working.  I could pair with my devices, but nothing registered when I typed.  It was only after awhile that I realized that I had used the default Makefile for compiling the firmware, when I should have been using the BT version of the Makefile (Makefile.rn42) instead.  Oops.

I need to spend more time with this new setup, but so far it works great.  Being able to use my HHKB with my laptop and not having to deal with annoying USB cables is a huge win.  Really excellent work, hasu!  Thanks so much for sharing this with us!

[hasu]

naasfu,
Thanks for the detailed report! I'll improve my document of firmware build.

Before shipping next batch of BT controllers I need more feedback from other BT users of first batch. Feel free to post your questions and problems please, first users!

[hasu]

I ordered Rev.G PCBs days ago, they will get to me in one or two weeks.
In Rev.G I just made small two change, 1) removing unused pads and 2) refine thermal relieve of ground pad. In terms of electric it completely same as Rev.F.

https://github.com/tmk/HHKB_controller/blob/master/TODO_revF.txt

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Rev.F Errata
============
 
- Poly FUSE foot print
    Size up to 3225-3228
    Recommended pads are used already, not changed. Solder jumper is removed. 03/09
 
- GND pin should be connected to just one side due to thermal relief
    thin spoke thermal relief is used for reset button 03/09


[deci]

Received my controller and just shopping for BT dongles and batteries now.

Has anyone found any good batteries other than the Sparkfun 1000mah (out of stock until next week) and 2000mah Ali Express one posted earlier?
Also, any BT dongle recommendations or basically any of the cheap ones on Amazon are ok?

Thanks!

[redskull]

I ordered Rev.G PCBs days ago, they will get to me in one or two weeks.
In Rev.G I just made small two change, 1) removing unused pads and 2) refine thermal relieve of ground pad. In terms of electric it completely same as Rev.F.

hi hasu,

did you get my pm? i am interested to get into que for this. thanks.

[hasu]

Added! Sorry, I missed.

[Greed]

Added! Sorry, I missed.

Missed me too!

[hasu]

I got a buch of componentsa and controllers in the mail, next production is going to begin soon.

[Bromono]

I will def grab one. Joined to late and missed out on this

[Greed]

I will def grab one. Joined to late and missed out on this

Very excited!

[TheOtherAdam]

Hi Hasu

Thanks for making these boards available, PM and payment sent.

Cheers
Adam

[nubbinator]

I'm definitely interested.  I'm also wondering if there's any chance that the controller might be compatible with this Topre board I recently found or if there's any way it could be made compatible.  I can provide any info needed.

[shawn24]

just set up my usb board, it works well, thx hasu.
for Mac OSX user, if you use homeberw to install bfu-programmer, it may install the 7.0 version,
which can only successfully erase chip but not flash for me.
after several try until I download the latest 7.2 version, I succeeded flash the new hex file

and here is a question, it is said that the lion battery need protection circuit to prevent booooom
which kind of the circuit should we buy? or is it ok to use the battery without protection circuit?

[hasu]

shawn24, thanks for your feedback!
yeah, I've found this problem and fixed just a few days ago(03/26). I think the latest TMK has no problem with dfu-programmer 0.7. I tested with dfu-programmer 0.7.1, not 0.7.2 yet though.
https://github.com/tmk/tmk_keyboard/commit/2b7d217ebb44934dd8554f3505ab656106649a11

You should use battery with protection function. Most Lipo Battery has protection circuit itself but some doesn't. You have to check datasheet of battery vendor/manufacturer offers. I can recommend Sparkfun batteries.
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=56494.msg1597883#msg1597883
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=56494.msg1595705#msg1595705

Read this. This is enough to use Lipo. I don't know beyond what this page explains.
https://learn.adafruit.com/li-ion-and-lipoly-batteries

[shawn24]

oh, the one u recommend already has built-in protection circuit. cool

On the batteries we sell, the protection circuit is soldered onto the battery and then taped into the little cavity at the top of the battery. This is very common for lipoly cells.

[hasu]

Last weekend I could make many boards and yesterday I shipped eight packages. Updated the first post.

I'll be able to supply USB boards enough to clear all the list untill next week. And hopefully all requested BT boards also  will be made within next few weeks.

Thanks,

[Vizir]

Just a FYI, my name is in 3 places on the list (bold and underlined). Not sure if that's intentional or mistake, but I wanted to point it out so that in the future there is no confusion

PROCESSING STATUS:

Name                List    PM      Res     Paid    Shipped Delivered   Rev
---------------------------------------------------------------------------
masticasesos        12/04   01/06   -----   -----   -----   -----       -
echo0               10/13   01/06   01/07   01/07   01/07   01/13       F
mashby              10/14   01/06   -----   -----   -----   -----       -
HoffmanMyster       10/14   01/06   01/08   01/08   01/08   01/17       F
Vizir               10/22   01/06   01/07   -----   -----   -----       -
jahkeup             10/25   01/06   01/07   01/07   01/07   01/24       F
jaemzp              11/03   01/10   01/12   01/12   01/13   02/01       F
cooldiscretion      11/14   01/06   01/07   -----   -----   -----       -
                                                                         
woodada             11/14   01/08   01/08   01/08   01/08   01/26       F
kaesve              11/16   01/08   01/09   01/09   01/09   01/14       F
osxoep              11/16   01/08   01/10   01/10   01/13   01/19       F
                                                                         
esoomenona          03/30   01/30   01/31   01/31   02/02   02/10       Fb
Matt3o              12/05   01/30   01/30   01/30   02/02   03/04       Fb
argcargv            10/11   01/30   01/30   -----   -----   -----       -
naasfu              10/18   01/30   02/01   02/01   02/02   02/10       Fb
bazh                10/30   01/30   01/30   -----   -----   -----       -
yicaoyimu           11/16   02/04   02/04   02/04   02/04   02/13       Fb
                                                                         
Elocutive           11/16   02/04   02/04   -----   -----   -----       -
Synjin              11/16   02/04   02/04   02/04   02/04   02/15       F
Jakes               11/20   02/04   02/05   02/05   02/05   02/18       F
tpc2084             01/16   02/04   02/04   02/04   02/04   02/13       F
                                                                         
amzee               11/17   02/15   02/18   -----   -----   -----       -
shawn24             11/20   02/15   02/15   02/15   02/23   03/04       F
shawn24             11/20   02/22   02/22   02/22   02/23   03/04       Fb
rssll               11/18   02/18   -----   -----   -----   -----       -
                                                                           
tzskp1              12/01   02/22   02/22   02/22   02/23   02/24       F
frontier            12/03   02/22   -----   -----   -----   -----       -
IonutZ              12/19   02/22   03/10   03/10                       G
Vizir               10/22   02/22   02/22   -----   -----   -----       -
                                                                         
deci                09/20   02/22   02/22   02/22   02/23               Fb
rdev5               12/04   02/22   -----   -----   -----   -----       --
x1a0                12/09   02/22   02/26   02/26   02/27   03/07       Fb
                                                                         
jmolino             12/29   02/27   03/06   03/10   03/11               Fb
P233                01/10   02/27   02/27   02/28   03/02   03/07       F
tinymao             01/13   02/27   02/27   02/27   02/27   03/04       F
MJ45                01/16   02/27   02/27   03/01   03/02   03/09       F
                                                                         
Cakered             03/07   03/07   03/07   03/07   03/09   03/13       Fj
yankez001           03/13   03/13   03/13   03/13   03/13   03/16       Fj

TheOtherAdam        01/16   03/27   03/27   03/27   03/27               G
exitfire401         01/16   03/27   03/27   -----   -----   -----       --
trizkut             01/16   03/27   03/27   03/27   03/27               G
Finn                01/17   03/27   03/27   03/27   03/30               G
rjradical           01/21   03/27   03/27   03/28   03/30               G
RoastPotatoes       02/11   03/27   03/27   03/27   03/30               G
                                                                         
byker               01/03   03/29   03/29   03/29   03/30               Fb
Vizir               01/07   03/29   03/29   03/29   03/30               Gb
cooldiscretion      11/14   03/29                                       Gb
coolbho3k           01/16   03/29                                       Gb
                                                                         
yaro_b              02/11   03/29   03/29   03/29   03/30               G
steve.v             02/16   03/29   03/29   03/29                       G
evera               02/21   03/29                                       G
beestingza          02/23   03/29                                       G
pexon               02/23   03/29                                       G
whodevil            02/27   03/29   03/30   03/30   03/30               G
duq                 03/03   03/29                                       G
snakeyes            03/04   03/29                                       G
                                                                         
Synjin              01/16   03/29   03/29   03/29   03/30               G
---------------------------------------------------------------------------

[hasu]

Vizir, no worry. It is intentinal and misktaken.
You changed order to BT at Jan 7. But invoice for USB was sent again wrongly at Feb 22.
Check your PMs around the dates if  you need.

[Vizir]

Yep, I checked and it's easy for me, but I thought you'd have a hard time checking through the multitudes of PM's you probably receive. So I was making sure you knew of this. And it looks like you are on top of things.

[JanitorJoe]

Well gosh darn, not even two weeks and my board is already in the mail!

I need to start planning my layout.

[FrostyToast]

Going to make my payment tomorrow!

[Bromono]

anyway I can get on the list =3?

[kubatyszko]

Hello, I would like to order one controller for JP (PD-KB420B), I live in Tokyo.

今日、クバです、
JPモデル(ワイアー)用一個を買いたいんですが、東京へ発送をできますか？
早めに着払いはどうでしか？
振り込みもうできますよ。
宜しくお願いします。
クバ

[hasu]

Thanks all for your interest and support!
Finally I sent invoices for all orders in the waiting list, most of controllers can be shipped immediately or within a week in the worst case.

Now that there is no backorder and no further development for this project is needed, so I'm going to close this group buy and create my artisan service thread for this.

For a while, I'll leave this GB open so that you can still order controller boards untill my artisan service is open.

Thank you so much for supporting this project!

[hasu]

Bromono, kubatyszko, Thanks for your interest.
To order read the first post of this thread and PM me.

EDIT: PM=Personal Message

[FrostyToast]

I just sent payment!
I don't even have an hhkb yet...

[byker]

I just sent payment!
I don't even have an hhkb yet...

Better order it soon! EMS shipping means that the controller is going to be there soon

[ctm]

Just curious, there seems to be plenty of space in HHKB, so is there possibility of stuffing a USB hub in so that the controller is connected to one port and the other two ports can be used in place of Pro 2 USB hub? (Actually I don't have great need for USB hub on Pro 2. I just think it's a little ugly to leave two holes there.)

EDIT: I just find a USB hub that looks small enough to fit into HHKB. It has 4 ports so maybe the DIP place can be an extra port? http://smile.amazon.com/Sabrent-Portable-MacBook-Windows-HB-MCRM/dp/B00L2442H0/ref=sr_1_15?ie=UTF8&qid=1428441835&sr=8-15&keywords=4-ports+usb+hub

[Ngt]

Is the sale still up for the USB controller?

[hasu]

ctm, totally possible. Use small controller board like Teensy or pro micro instead of this board. Or just buy HHKB Pro and sell your Pro2
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=12047.msg1699177#msg1699177

Ngt, yes. Read through the first post and PM me.

[IonutZ]

Probably the best investment I've ever made for the HHKB... Hasu's bluetooth alt... amazing!

[Bucake]

mine has arrived already

awesome stuff hasu, thank you

[yomammary]

Hey guys,
I'm wondering if any of you compiled this using Windows using Flip.
If so, any recommendations?
As you can see I don't have much programming experience.

[shawn24]

Hey guys,
I'm wondering if any of you compiled this using Windows using Flip.
If so, any recommendations?
As you can see I don't have much programming experience.

just follow the instruction on hasu"s github, it should be detailed enough

[yomammary]

Hey guys,
I'm wondering if any of you compiled this using Windows using Flip.
If so, any recommendations?
As you can see I don't have much programming experience.

just follow the instruction on hasu"s github, it should be detailed enough

Alright!

[byker]

For some reason my Windows PC doesn't pick up the hhkb when I have it in bluetooth mode, but my macbook easily connected. Anyone have this issue? I have tried restarting both sides multiple times..

[shawn24]

For some reason my Windows PC doesn't pick up the hhkb when I have it in bluetooth mode, but my macbook easily connected. Anyone have this issue? I have tried restarting both sides multiple times..

does ur pc have built-in bt module?

[hasu]

byker,
Windows won't find your keyboard if it is linked with Mac or other host. In this situation to make the keyboard discoverable you have to disconnect it from the host first or start pairing mode with pressing LShift+RShift+p(Magic p command).

If this is not your problem possible cause is various...

[byker]

shawn24 - no, i am using a separate bluetooth connecter.


hasu - Thanks, I will try that!

[Vizir]

rec'd my Rev. Gb board a couple of days ago. Waiting for the 1000mAh battery from sparkfun before I try it out.

[hasu]

Thanks for your support!

Keymap editor for Bluetooth controller is available now.
Also firmware was updated in USB keymap editor.

http://www.tmk-kbd.com/tmk_keyboard/editor/index.html

This is not needed if you are already familiar with editing keymap file and building firmware. Also you cannot make use of all functions with this keymap editor. But it will be useful when you don't need fancy keymap function or you are in trouble with your own built firmware.

[btctopre]

Got my controller in! With minimal experience doing anything like this before, it only took me 15 minutes or so to create my keymap using the editor, and then flash it onto the controller using Flip. Process was incredibly easy and the result is exactly what I wanted. The purchase was well-worth it, thank you hasu for you hard work!

The only issue I'm encountering is the same thing HoffmanMyster previously did, where there is a slight delay when a function layer is initially trigger (so Fn + [/Up Arrow has like a .2 second delay before moving up), but disappears if the Fn key remains pressed. This isn't as big of a deal to me, as I only have a few commonly-used keys on the secondary layer, but it is noticeable. Is there any known fix for this? I'm plugged into a motherboard back USB port, so power should be okay, and I've tried multiple ports to no avail.

[hasu]

The only issue I'm encountering is the same thing HoffmanMyster previously did, where there is a slight delay when a function layer is initially trigger (so Fn + [/Up Arrow has like a .2 second delay before moving up), but disappears if the Fn key remains pressed. This isn't as big of a deal to me, as I only have a few commonly-used keys on the secondary layer, but it is noticeable. Is there any known fix for this? I'm plugged into a motherboard back USB port, so power should be okay, and I've tried multiple ports to no avail.

Hmm, 0.2sec deay reminds me Dual role keys or Tapping in TMK terminology.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Modifier_key#Dual-role_keys
https://github.com/tmk/tmk_keyboard/blob/master/doc/keymap.md#4-tapping

What are you using actually as Fn key?
With 'Layer Switch Momentary'(L1, L2, ...) you should not have the delay, if you suffer it is a bug.

In Keymap Editor 'Layer Switch with Tap Toggle', 'Layer switch with Tap key' and 'Modifier with special function' are Dual role keys. These should have the delay inevitably from its nature.

[btctopre]

Hmm, 0.2sec deay reminds me Dual role keys or Tapping in TMK terminology.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Modifier_key#Dual-role_keys
https://github.com/tmk/tmk_keyboard/blob/master/doc/keymap.md#4-tapping

What are you using actually as Fn key?
With 'Layer Switch Momentary'(L1, L2, ...) you should not have the delay, if you suffer it is a bug.

In Keymap Editor 'Layer Switch with Tap Toggle', 'Layer switch with Tap key' and 'Modifier with special function' are Dual role keys. These should have the delay inevitably from its nature.

I'm using the standard L1 Fn key (momentary). And I tried reflashing the firmware with my layout, then flashing the default layout and still the delay is there on both unfortunately. I'll try using it with a different computer in a couple hours and see what the result is.

[hasu]

Thanks for the testing.
Ah, I finally found the delay you described, never found it myself so far, I don't know why
It seems like this is unneeded delay and I can fix it. I'll look into source later.

[IonutZ]

I'd like to know your thoughts on this - I found a really badass battery

3000mah (can be found on ebay, called a 3010080 lipo)
3mm x 100mm x 80mm

Check out the pictures

In order to install this had to take out 4 screws (only 3 pictured, also one above). With the battery installed it does not seem to affect stability of keyboard.


There is a bit of a bulge in the front. I don't think it's too bad...


This bulge is distributed across first half and second half, putting a little strain on middle hinge.

You can see the battery in the back as it sits on top of the pcb.



Size of battery



By my calculations having run it with a 500mah... This would last about 40 hours at 3000mah. Which means an entire work week without having to recharge.........

What are your thoughts?

[btctopre]

Thanks for the testing.
Ah, I finally found the delay you described, never found it myself so far, I don't know why
It seems like this is unneeded delay and I can fix it. I'll look into source later.

You're the best  The delay still persists on my home machine, but you adjust to it pretty quick. If you do come up with a fix, please let me know though. That would make your controller board absolutely perfect!

[Pemdas]

Got my controller and got everything working, your keymap editor made everything so easy. Not only does this give me bluetooth support (something I've wanted for a looong time) but it also gives me media control keys on windows using the HHKB!

Thank you again Hasu! Love the controller 

[Greed]

Just another happy camper here. Hasu you are AMAZING! Thank you so much for doing this. All I was looking for was bluetooth capability for my HHKB Type-S and this delivered big time. Just open the case, remove the old controller replace with Hasu's controller and plug in a battery and I was wirelessly thocking away withing 5-10 mins of receiving the controller

I rigged up a 1000mah battery for this just waiting for my 2000mah battery from China.

Thanks again Hasu!

[byker]

For some reason I still cannot get my computer to see my hhkb via bluetooth. I know it must be a problem on the computer's end as I have been able to sync the hhkb to other devices. This is the bluetooth adaptor I have, do you see any problems with it hasu? http://www.amazon.ca/gp/product/B005Z5HT2M

[hasu]

Thanks for your feedbacks. Nice to hear from users of my controller!

byker, it looks no problem with the adapter, which is 3.0 and should have backward compatibility to 2.1 that keyboard uses.
Can you connect to other PC or devices like phone? And BT LED is blinked(once per sec) while trying?

EDIT: oops

[byker]

Thanks for your feedbacks. Nice to hear from users of my controller!

byker, it looks no problem with the adapter, which is 3.0 and should have backward compatibility to 2.1 that keyboard uses.
Can you connect to other PC or devices like phone? And BT LED is blinked(once per sec) while trying?

EDIT: oops

Yup, bt led blinks once per second.

[IonutZ]

Scratch that, don't buy the 3000mah 3010080, it really doesn't fit. Going with 2 smaller 1600mahs and will update.

[hasu]

Thanks for the info.

I never use foot so I'd remove left foot part and do case mod if I need larger battery.

But I don't go out recently BT is rarely used

[IonutZ]

Hahah I ghetto rigged mine:
http://imgur.com/ZcRVWwN,uLN1rnO

I use BT all the time man! I love it. Can you put me on the list for another one please?

[hasu]

hehe, I love this kindof hack!

Currently no long lead time is needed, probably a few days or within a week. PM me.

[hasu]

Thanks for your feedbacks. Nice to hear from users of my controller!

byker, it looks no problem with the adapter, which is 3.0 and should have backward compatibility to 2.1 that keyboard uses.
Can you connect to other PC or devices like phone? And BT LED is blinked(once per sec) while trying?

EDIT: oops

Yup, bt led blinks once per second.

hmm, I think it should be found on Windows. I can't come up with any answer

What if you remove and reinstall BT stack or driver?

[AhmadZuhdi]

if i replace the controller with the bluetooth one, can i still use it with usb ?

[hasu]

Yes, BT controller works with USB when Bluetooth is switched off.

[Vizir]

Hahah I ghetto rigged mine:
http://imgur.com/ZcRVWwN,uLN1rnO

I use BT all the time man! I love it. Can you put me on the list for another one please?

That's hilarious!

[yomammary]

I'm going in today, wish me luck

[yomammary]

Success!  (and no issue with the FN layer)

Did you guys cover the holes with anything?

[Vizir]

Using mine with the bluetooth and the sparkfun 1000mAh battery linked by hasu. Working great. Had to turn off and back on the keyboard once at the start when I couldn't get it to pair with linux mint. The second time I attempted to pair, it worked right away. Haven't played with function layers etc yet. Working great so far!

Thanks again, hasu.

[jackiecanev2]

Finally had a chance to put my BT board in and get it programmed, flashed, and paired - works like a charm. Programmable + BT = perfection. Now I just need to build some kind of riser to fit between the top plate and the base for some extra battery space... 

[deci]

Hahah I ghetto rigged mine:
http://imgur.com/ZcRVWwN,uLN1rnO

I use BT all the time man! I love it. Can you put me on the list for another one please?

Holy crap hahaha.

I am using this battery:
http://chicagodist.com/products/lithium-ion-polymer-battery-3-7v-1200mah

Shipping was only $3 to Cali so it was much cheaper than the Sparkfun (which was also sold out at the time)
I haven't timed it as I switch between bt and usb for different computers but it is working perfectly for me so far.

They also sell a 2500mah battery that I wanted to try out but it was sold out at the time.

[thefebruaryman]

Hi all I am going to be getting my hands on a couple of the HAUS alt controllers in a few days and have been reading the documentation. I have found some of it confusing to find the best method for flashing the controller with a custom layout using a linux system. I have tried to write a step by step that I hope to improve on in the future and it has some big holes in it. Could you please help me fill in these holes so that I am ready to go when my controllers arrive? This is as far as I have got

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HAUS alt controller Step by Step linux (opensuse) for HHKB pro 2

1. Download DFU-programmer.

https://dfu-programmer.github.io/

2. Extract it into a directory. I picked with

# tar -xzf dfu-programmer-<version>.tar.gz

# /home/thomas/bin/

3. Install needed extra software. I had to install libusb-1_0-0 and lisbusb-devel. I did this using software management
in yast.

4. cd into dfu-programmer folder.

# cd dfu-programmer

# sudo ./configure

# sudo make

# sudo make install

4. Move back to /home/thomas/bin directory (your equvilant of)

# mv /home/thomas/bin

5. Git clone the software. Make sure git is installed.

# sudo git clone https://github.com/tmk/tmk_keyboard

6. Make you custom layout using keymap editor.

http://www.tmk-kbd.com/tmk_keyboard/editor/hhkb/index.html

and download the hex file

7. ......

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As you can see I still haven't worked out the next step correctly get the hex onto the board.

[yomammary]

http://roastpotatoes.github.io/2015/04/08/hasus-alternative-controller/

This helped me quite a bit.

[thefebruaryman]

http://roastpotatoes.github.io/2015/04/08/hasus-alternative-controller/

This helped me quite a bit.

Thank you for the reply. This is quite helpful. I have found a few more solutions today for the Linux install that I will post after testing.

[yomammary]

After trying the install on Linux and Windows, I can say that the Windows install worked better for me.

[JaydrVernanda]

Hahah I ghetto rigged mine:
http://imgur.com/ZcRVWwN,uLN1rnO

I use BT all the time man! I love it. Can you put me on the list for another one please?

Holy crap hahaha.

I am using this battery:
http://chicagodist.com/products/lithium-ion-polymer-battery-3-7v-1200mah

Shipping was only $3 to Cali so it was much cheaper than the Sparkfun (which was also sold out at the time)
I haven't timed it as I switch between bt and usb for different computers but it is working perfectly for me so far.

They also sell a 2500mah battery that I wanted to try out but it was sold out at the time.

Does the 1200 mAh battery fit well inside the case? Their website doesn't list its dimensions.

[deci]

Hahah I ghetto rigged mine:
http://imgur.com/ZcRVWwN,uLN1rnO

I use BT all the time man! I love it. Can you put me on the list for another one please?

Holy crap hahaha.

I am using this battery:
http://chicagodist.com/products/lithium-ion-polymer-battery-3-7v-1200mah

Shipping was only $3 to Cali so it was much cheaper than the Sparkfun (which was also sold out at the time)
I haven't timed it as I switch between bt and usb for different computers but it is working perfectly for me so far.

They also sell a 2500mah battery that I wanted to try out but it was sold out at the time.

Does the 1200 mAh battery fit well inside the case? Their website doesn't list its dimensions.

Yeah it fits with no problems. There's plenty of room for it.

[thefebruaryman]

Got my two alt controllers through the post today. They are amazing. Easy to install and using the online and dfu-programmer(once installed correctly) it was very easy to program and flash. Using it right now!

Many thanks I love these controllers. They have made my hhkb's even better than they were before.

[radio_killah]

Hasu, I sent you a pm with an order. Forgot to add I am in the United States.

[JaydrVernanda]

Got my 1200mAh battery from Chicago Electronic Distributors today! If anyone's curious, it's about 64mm x 35mm x 5mm. Seems too large for the area measured by hasu in this post, but deci claims that it fits just fine.

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[deci]

Got my 1200mAh battery from Chicago Electronic Distributors today! If anyone's curious, it's about 64mm x 35mm x 5mm. Seems too large for the area measured by hasu in this post, but deci claims that it fits just fine.

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If the 2500 ever comes back into stock i might pick one up to see if there's a way i can get that to fit as well.
Although personally i haven't run out of battery yet so i don't really need it. I just leave it plugged in at night...

[infiniti]

Now this GB is closed and you can buy this from my new artisan service thread.
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=71517.0