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Title: 2TU (TuTu) - Custom Korean 60% keyboard.
Post by: Binge on Wed, 01 May 2013, 10:57:25
For the past couple weeks I've been talking with a guy who is named Kailet on GH about his access/relation to the 2TU project.
(Kailet's Blog, http://22gongbang.tistory.com/)

Three orders can still be made from members of Geekhack.  Order deadline May 10th.  Please contact Kailet via e-mail if you need more information awshim@gmail.com

The 2TU also known as Two Thumbs Up or TuTu is a 60% board which is extremely similar in customization to our GH60 project.
Its design (pcb) is known as "thumb" and supports the following,

[attachimg=4]



Kailet is, from what I can tell, pretty involved in this project and a few of his own.  He is creating custom housings for these PCBs, and he has made full polycarbonate, polycarbonate and aluminum, and full aluminum slim designs.  In addition to designing and fabricating various housing solutions for this project he has also taken into consideration what he can do with the mix of materials.  I don't want to pat myself on the back too much because he may have had the idea already but after explaining that I would love to have a keyboard with interior glow he posted this picture.

[attach=1]*

Here's a video of one of the LED modes with the internal LEDs.


I was told by Kailet in other e-mails that he would make some of these keyboards for Geekhack members upon request.
These aren't cheap as most customs are not.  I got confirmation on prices!

Quote
The rough price for PCB+Housing plus shipping would be little less than $250.
And one assembled will be a little less than $400.
Shipping will be $30 to $40 for a safe and quick delivery called EMS with a tracking number.
It normally takes around 4 days.

He has 5 PCBs available for members of our forum.
He can be reached by e-mail at awshim@gmail.com
I only asked for this information in case some serious collectors wanted to know of availability.

A couple other pictures of this project,
[attach=2]*
The Polycarbonate Case

[attach=3]*
Possible Layout Options

*The source of the photos used in this post are http://22gongbang.tistory.com/

Originally before knowing anything about this Korean custom project I followed a link boost made in this thread (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=42400.0).
Big thanks to boost for the heads up!
Title: Re: 2TU (TuTu) - Custom Korean 60% keyboard.
Post by: Photekq on Wed, 01 May 2013, 18:21:18
Looks really nice. Any idea why he has these dimples & bumps on the plate?
Title: Re: 2TU (TuTu) - Custom Korean 60% keyboard.
Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 01 May 2013, 18:23:47
Maybe a more elegant way to solve the solderless switch opening problem?
Title: Re: 2TU (TuTu) - Custom Korean 60% keyboard.
Post by: osxoep on Wed, 01 May 2013, 18:41:43
Hnggggggg.

Do want.
Title: Re: Re: 2TU (TuTu) - Custom Korean 60% keyboard.
Post by: boost on Wed, 01 May 2013, 18:48:10
Quote from: Photekq on Wed, 01 May 2013, 18:21:18
Looks really nice. Any idea why he has these dimples & bumps on the plate?

Might be laser marks
Title: Re: 2TU (TuTu) - Custom Korean 60% keyboard.
Post by: sth on Wed, 01 May 2013, 18:53:54
lololo 300 for this? so dumb so dumb so dumb SO DUMB
Title: Re: 2TU (TuTu) - Custom Korean 60% keyboard.
Post by: Binge on Wed, 01 May 2013, 19:08:01
I'm pretty sure the notches are there because of the new plate thickness.  The post that picture came from details how he is increasing plate thickness.
It also looks like it's a way for the plate to be universal for various layouts.

Any switch experts out there have a comment on the design?

[attach=1]
Title: Re: 2TU (TuTu) - Custom Korean 60% keyboard.
Post by: metalliqaz on Wed, 01 May 2013, 19:11:09
Those are hot.
Title: Re: 2TU (TuTu) - Custom Korean 60% keyboard.
Post by: Michael on Wed, 01 May 2013, 19:22:59
(http://www.reactiongifs.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/11/take-my-money.gif)
Title: Re: 2TU (TuTu) - Custom Korean 60% keyboard.
Post by: Dubsgalore on Wed, 01 May 2013, 19:23:41
he said he would try to save me a PCB a few weeks ago when i talked to him...this thing is awesome regardless..i don't car eif it's $400 for a 60%...It still awesome
Title: Re: 2TU (TuTu) - Custom Korean 60% keyboard.
Post by: Sifo on Wed, 01 May 2013, 19:26:19
Damn this is pretty sick ...
Title: Re: Re: 2TU (TuTu) - Custom Korean 60% keyboard.
Post by: boost on Wed, 01 May 2013, 19:27:56
Quote from: Binge on Wed, 01 May 2013, 19:08:01
I'm pretty sure the notches are there because of the new plate thickness.  The post that picture came from details how he is increasing plate thickness.
It also looks like it's a way for the plate to be universal for various layouts.

Any switch experts out there have a comment on the design?

(Attachment Link)

That so you can swap springs/stem without desoldering
Title: Re: 2TU (TuTu) - Custom Korean 60% keyboard.
Post by: okooko on Wed, 01 May 2013, 19:32:48
Looks nice, although for the first pic, sometimes you shouldn't crank the bokeh every shot. Would have been nice to see the board stopped down a bit...f16 or more
Title: Re: 2TU (TuTu) - Custom Korean 60% keyboard.
Post by: AriesX on Wed, 01 May 2013, 20:21:00
this type of housing has been popular in korea for a while now
Title: Re: 2TU (TuTu) - Custom Korean 60% keyboard.
Post by: Kaliet on Wed, 01 May 2013, 20:21:43
Quote from: boost on Wed, 01 May 2013, 19:27:56
Quote from: Binge on Wed, 01 May 2013, 19:08:01
I'm pretty sure the notches are there because of the new plate thickness.  The post that picture came from details how he is increasing plate thickness.
It also looks like it's a way for the plate to be universal for various layouts.

Any switch experts out there have a comment on the design?

(Attachment Link)

That so you can swap springs/stem without desoldering

Well, actually, those have nothing to do with swapping springs and stems without desoldering. :)
Binge explained well about that.
Those dimples/notches are there to firmly hold the switches at 1.5mm from the top of the plate since it's 2mm now.
There are latches on the top and bottom sides of cherry switches that are locked on the plate, the thickness of which is normally 1.5mm.
It's easy to design plates of 1.5mm thickness but I wanted to make it thicker for some reasons.

All housing parts are CNC processed, not laser-cut. :)
Title: Re: 2TU (TuTu) - Custom Korean 60% keyboard.
Post by: Kaliet on Wed, 01 May 2013, 20:24:18
Quote from: okooko on Wed, 01 May 2013, 19:32:48
Looks nice, although for the first pic, sometimes you shouldn't crank the bokeh every shot. Would have been nice to see the board stopped down a bit...f16 or more

Thanks for your advice. I'm a beginner in photography. :)
I'll try that next time when I buy a tripod.
Title: Re: 2TU (TuTu) - Custom Korean 60% keyboard.
Post by: metalliqaz on Wed, 01 May 2013, 20:49:48
Are those LEDs on the sides?  Intense.
Title: Re: 2TU (TuTu) - Custom Korean 60% keyboard.
Post by: Binge on Wed, 01 May 2013, 21:41:42
Quote from: metalliqaz on Wed, 01 May 2013, 20:49:48
Are those LEDs on the sides?  Intense.

Those LEDs are actually INSIDE (caps for brimming with excitement) the case.  The (polycarbonate) middle allows the light to shine out!

Updated post 1 with more clarification on specs.
Title: Re: 2TU (TuTu) - Custom Korean 60% keyboard.
Post by: Photekq on Thu, 02 May 2013, 15:40:47
Quote from: Kaliet on Wed, 01 May 2013, 20:21:43

Well, actually, those have nothing to do with swapping springs and stems without desoldering. :)
Binge explained well about that.
Those dimples/notches are there to firmly hold the switches at 1.5mm from the top of the plate since it's 2mm now.
There are latches on the top and bottom sides of cherry switches that are locked on the plate, the thickness of which is normally 1.5mm.
It's easy to design plates of 1.5mm thickness but I wanted to make it thicker for some reasons.

All housing parts are CNC processed, not laser-cut. :)

Thanks for the info!
Title: Re: 2TU (TuTu) - Custom Korean 60% keyboard.
Post by: Patchwrks on Thu, 02 May 2013, 19:50:26
I'd take one
Title: Re: 2TU (TuTu) - Custom Korean 60% keyboard.
Post by: Binge on Fri, 03 May 2013, 00:04:19
Alright happy hackers!

Important post and an update for the OP

Kailet has 3 PCBs remaining for GH members.  Deadline for an order is May 10th.
Title: Re: 2TU (TuTu) - Custom Korean 60% keyboard.
Post by: evolveS on Fri, 03 May 2013, 12:08:25
Gorgeous housings, do want
Title: Re: 2TU (TuTu) - Custom Korean 60% keyboard.
Post by: whiskerBox on Sat, 04 May 2013, 09:26:54
pretty sharp looking! I like how the middle layer of the case lights up, but I don't know how I feel about there not being sides on the case. I guess it wouldn't be an issue if you don't travel with it frequently.
Title: Re: 2TU (TuTu) - Custom Korean 60% keyboard.
Post by: Kaliet on Sat, 04 May 2013, 09:32:22
Quote from: whiskerBox on Sat, 04 May 2013, 09:26:54
pretty sharp looking! I like how the middle layer of the case lights up, but I don't know how I feel about there not being sides on the case. I guess it wouldn't be an issue if you don't travel with it frequently.

You don't need to worry about the mid-layer.
That's made of polycarbonate, which is known to be 150 times stronger than tempered glass and elastic at the same time.
So I can say it is more reliable than the aluminum layer especially for traveling. :)
Title: Re: 2TU (TuTu) - Custom Korean 60% keyboard.
Post by: Rendom on Sat, 04 May 2013, 10:13:56
Looks great, but another 60% keyboard? No thanks.  : /
Title: 2TU (TuTu) - Custom Korean 60% keyboard.
Post by: Aranair on Mon, 06 May 2013, 19:35:17
Binge, was just wondering~ did you order it assembled or?  I am negotiating for a partial assembly(he mentioned diodes/resisters, of which I have no idea what to do)
Title: Re: 2TU (TuTu) - Custom Korean 60% keyboard.
Post by: Binge on Mon, 06 May 2013, 22:24:56
Quote from: Aranair on Mon, 06 May 2013, 19:35:17
Binge, was just wondering~ did you order it assembled or?  I am negotiating for a partial assembly(he mentioned diodes/resisters, of which I have no idea what to do)

I ordered mine fully assembled.  What do you want to know?  Getting all of the diodes installed is a lot of work.
Title: Re: 2TU (TuTu) - Custom Korean 60% keyboard.
Post by: Binge on Fri, 10 May 2013, 21:35:01
Update from Kailet!  He has an opportunity to get more PCBs and therefore make more keyboards!

He also alerted me to a new version of the MX Mini being made with full LED support.

If there's any interest I'd be happy to relay questions!
Title: Re: 2TU (TuTu) - Custom Korean 60% keyboard.
Post by: tjcaustin on Fri, 10 May 2013, 21:44:27
mmmmmx mini
Title: Re: 2TU (TuTu) - Custom Korean 60% keyboard.
Post by: ApocalypseMaow on Fri, 10 May 2013, 22:01:39
When would payment be due?
Title: Re: 2TU (TuTu) - Custom Korean 60% keyboard.
Post by: metalliqaz on Fri, 10 May 2013, 22:57:19
This thing shows incredible craftsmanship.  I'm in awe.  But dat price!
Title: Re: 2TU (TuTu) - Custom Korean 60% keyboard.
Post by: Binge on Sat, 11 May 2013, 00:47:05
Quote from: ApocalypseMaow on Fri, 10 May 2013, 22:01:39
When would payment be due?

Apoc, I think you should totally shoot Kailet an e-mail using the info I have in my OP. :)  I paid as soon as it was clear what I wanted so that I could reserve a spot in the queue so to speak.

His previous date was May 10th for orders.  He has access to some more boards now, so I think he will be extending the time he will take orders.
Title: Re: 2TU (TuTu) - Custom Korean 60% keyboard.
Post by: Aranair on Sat, 11 May 2013, 01:39:25
Yeah, I got him to help me do everything except switches and led. Figured I got too many custom keyboards coming and it's time I get some soldering equip to save money in the long run I guess.
Title: Re: 2TU (TuTu) - Custom Korean 60% keyboard.
Post by: Aranair on Sat, 11 May 2013, 01:41:05

Quote from: metalliqaz on Fri, 10 May 2013, 22:57:19
This thing shows incredible craftsmanship.  I'm in awe.  But dat price!

Mm is it more than what it is normally? Not too sure of the prices of custom keyboards lol.
Title: Re: 2TU (TuTu) - Custom Korean 60% keyboard.
Post by: metalliqaz on Sat, 11 May 2013, 01:45:48
Customs have no normal price.
Title: Re: 2TU (TuTu) - Custom Korean 60% keyboard.
Post by: Aranair on Sat, 11 May 2013, 02:44:56
Yeah well, your post seemed to suggest that it was too expensive for that, hence my question:p
Title: Re: 2TU (TuTu) - Custom Korean 60% keyboard.
Post by: Binge on Sat, 11 May 2013, 02:49:39
I thought it was more of a dat price, kinda like dat ass, or dem clacks if you know what I'm sayin?

Title: Re: 2TU (TuTu) - Custom Korean 60% keyboard.
Post by: Aranair on Sat, 11 May 2013, 02:58:41
Either way, I'm sorry if I misunderstood you metallique ;)
Title: Re: 2TU (TuTu) - Custom Korean 60% keyboard.
Post by: HannibalChew on Sat, 11 May 2013, 04:37:48
Wow i'v never seen this before, it looks awesome! I'm actually designing something very similar for my GH60. Shame its a bit pricey :(
Title: Re: 2TU (TuTu) - Custom Korean 60% keyboard.
Post by: hasu on Sat, 11 May 2013, 05:06:41
Looks great and nicely designed.

Kaliet,
I'm curious about ps2avr, I think some Korean boards use this firmware including yours.  Your version or latest version of ps2avr is publicly available somewhere else?
I don't suppose this is latest ps2avr: http://sourceforge.net/projects/ps2avr/
Title: Re: 2TU (TuTu) - Custom Korean 60% keyboard.
Post by: ApocalypseMaow on Sat, 11 May 2013, 05:26:49
Quote from: Binge on Sat, 11 May 2013, 00:47:05
Quote from: ApocalypseMaow on Fri, 10 May 2013, 22:01:39
When would payment be due?

Apoc, I think you should totally shoot Kailet an e-mail using the info I have in my OP. :)  I paid as soon as it was clear what I wanted so that I could reserve a spot in the queue so to speak.

His previous date was May 10th for orders.  He has access to some more boards now, so I think he will be extending the time he will take orders.
Ugh, I was worried I'd miss it. I'll chat him up about it. Thanks Binge!
Title: Re: 2TU (TuTu) - Custom Korean 60% keyboard.
Post by: zoolzoo on Sat, 11 May 2013, 09:28:59
its cool...but... meh
Title: Re: 2TU (TuTu) - Custom Korean 60% keyboard.
Post by: Dubsgalore on Sat, 11 May 2013, 09:51:49
Binge i have an update if you'd like :)
Title: Re: 2TU (TuTu) - Custom Korean 60% keyboard.
Post by: Binge on Tue, 14 May 2013, 15:25:38
update us dubs!

I've also finished some key-bindings and I would love some feedback

Base
[attach=1]
FN1
[attach=2]
FN2 (also known as FN lock layer)
[attach=3]
Title: Re: 2TU (TuTu) - Custom Korean 60% keyboard.
Post by: Kaliet on Mon, 20 May 2013, 21:45:56
Hey folks! Enjoy some recent pics of my 2TU. :)

(http://cfile5.uf.tistory.com/image/0350C24B5198E7CB0BEC05)
(http://cfile29.uf.tistory.com/image/0253914B5198E7CA06A8CD)
(http://cfile27.uf.tistory.com/image/242A964B5198E7CB314248)
(http://cfile23.uf.tistory.com/image/263FA64B5198E7CC298EA9)
(http://cfile1.uf.tistory.com/image/0151344B5198E7CD0A141A)
(http://cfile27.uf.tistory.com/image/234C064B5198E7CE14173D)
(http://cfile1.uf.tistory.com/image/234BBB4B5198E7CF14BEDF)

Have a good one.
http://22gongbang.tistory.com/
Title: Re: 2TU (TuTu) - Custom Korean 60% keyboard.
Post by: dadgh on Mon, 20 May 2013, 22:11:39
Quote from: Kaliet on Mon, 20 May 2013, 21:45:56
Hey folks! Enjoy some recent pics of my 2TU. :)

Show Image
(http://cfile27.uf.tistory.com/image/242A964B5198E7CB314248)


Have a good one.
http://22gongbang.tistory.com/

holy crap, awesomeeeeeeee
Title: Re: 2TU (TuTu) - Custom Korean 60% keyboard.
Post by: bigx333 on Tue, 21 May 2013, 04:55:26
That dolch with red leds is just sexy ;D

Can't wait for my 2TU :D
Title: Re: 2TU (TuTu) - Custom Korean 60% keyboard.
Post by: Aranair on Tue, 21 May 2013, 06:01:21
Maybe I should get another set of red LEDs D; those look so awesome heh.
Title: Re: 2TU (TuTu) - Custom Korean 60% keyboard.
Post by: Binge on Thu, 13 June 2013, 13:59:05
Kailet is the absolute greatest and most awesome guy alive!  :p

I was notified three days ago that an entire series of his plates were machined incorrectly.  Good Guy Kailet still delivers! 

He just sent me some pictures of the finished product!

Enjoy,

(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/13574727/2TU/DSC04429.jpg)
(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/13574727/2TU/DSC04430.jpg)
(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/13574727/2TU/DSC04434.jpg)
(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/13574727/2TU/DSC04442.jpg)
(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/13574727/2TU/DSC04448.jpg)
Title: Re: 2TU (TuTu) - Custom Korean 60% keyboard.
Post by: Dubsgalore on Thu, 13 June 2013, 21:45:20
absolutely stunning kaliet, you make works of art

I'm very happy for you Binge! can't wait for pics of when it arrives at your own doorstep!
Title: Re: 2TU (TuTu) - Custom Korean 60% keyboard.
Post by: Jocelyn on Thu, 13 June 2013, 21:52:44
I love it!!!! My guess is no, but does it allow for removable switch tops?
Title: Re: 2TU (TuTu) - Custom Korean 60% keyboard.
Post by: Sai on Thu, 13 June 2013, 22:02:07
thats some lovely board.  ;)
Title: Re: 2TU (TuTu) - Custom Korean 60% keyboard.
Post by: morpheus on Thu, 13 June 2013, 22:42:01
Simply amazing.
Title: Re: 2TU (TuTu) - Custom Korean 60% keyboard.
Post by: Binge on Thu, 13 June 2013, 23:43:25
Quote from: Jocelyn on Thu, 13 June 2013, 21:52:44
I love it!!!! My guess is no, but does it allow for removable switch tops?

Yeah unfortunately it does not.
Title: Re: 2TU (TuTu) - Custom Korean 60% keyboard.
Post by: mashby on Fri, 14 June 2013, 08:35:44
Anyone have a bucket?

My drooling has become a bit overwhelming.
Title: Re: 2TU (TuTu) - Custom Korean 60% keyboard.
Post by: CPTBadAss on Fri, 14 June 2013, 08:37:08
Quote from: mashby on Fri, 14 June 2013, 08:35:44
Anyone have a bucket?

My drooling has become a bit overwhelming.

We need to get a Data911, that splash guard would be mighty handy at times like these. My poor Filco has been drooled on so many times :P
Title: Re: 2TU (TuTu) - Custom Korean 60% keyboard.
Post by: Belfong on Sat, 03 January 2015, 21:39:49
So I am reviving this thread because I recently acquire this and it's a truly, truly awesome keyboard. Kaliet asked me what layout I'd like and since I am familiar with Poker 2 layout, I have asked him to configure this prior to him shipping. So he has done that for the first FN layer. But I understand that there is another FN layer. This keyboard has two Fn keys, one in the Modifier beside the right ALT key and the other 1u beside the right SHIFT key. It is this second Fn layout I am trying to locate. Does anyone have any idea what it does? I have contacted Kaliet but I think he's kinda busy with travelling and work so he has yet to be able to get me the layout, so I am seeking the community's help. Appreciate.
Title: Re: 2TU (TuTu) - Custom Korean 60% keyboard.
Post by: Dee1 on Tue, 06 January 2015, 03:15:48
Hey Belfong--
I have one of these as well that I bought off of someone here. The secondary FN layer can be reached by selecting FN (next to shift) + Space. You'll see the capslock & backspace lights blink twice when you switch to the FN2 layer. If you hit FN+Space again, the same lights will blink once and you will be back to the default layer.

You can see the default FN2 layout here in this link: http://blog.winkeyless.kr/9
Title: Re: 2TU (TuTu) - Custom Korean 60% keyboard.
Post by: Belfong on Wed, 07 January 2015, 02:33:06
Quote from: Dee1 on Tue, 06 January 2015, 03:15:48
Hey Belfong--
I have one of these as well that I bought off of someone here. The secondary FN layer can be reached by selecting FN (next to shift) + Space. You'll see the capslock & backspace lights blink twice when you switch to the FN2 layer. If you hit FN+Space again, the same lights will blink once and you will be back to the default layer.

You can see the default FN2 layout here in this link: http://blog.winkeyless.kr/9
You're awesome Dee1. Thank you soooooo much!

Edit: looks like the secondary FN layer is to make the bottom mod cluster become arrow keys, right? No other special functionalities aside from that.
Title: Re: 2TU (TuTu) - Custom Korean 60% keyboard.
Post by: Dee1 on Wed, 07 January 2015, 03:27:33
Quote from: Belfong on Wed, 07 January 2015, 02:33:06
Edit: looks like the secondary FN layer is to make the bottom mod cluster become arrow keys, right? No other special functionalities aside from that.
Yup, that's pretty much all that changes. I believe that layer can be customized as well if you want a different layout, but I haven't tried it myself. :)
Title: Re: 2TU (TuTu) - Custom Korean 60% keyboard.
Post by: Belfong on Wed, 07 January 2015, 03:30:19
Cool.. At least there are arrow keys. He he. Customization requires some USB device so I'm not that adventurous either.
Title: Re: 2TU (TuTu) - Custom Korean 60% keyboard.
Post by: Belfong on Fri, 23 January 2015, 23:40:35
Hmm, turns out Fn-Space doesn't trigger the 2nd Fn layout to me, so I can't get any dedicated arrow keys, bummer!
Title: Re: 2TU (TuTu) - Custom Korean 60% keyboard.
Post by: Kaliet on Tue, 27 January 2015, 19:12:21
You still haven't found the solution yet?
Mail me if you're having any difficulties.
Title: Re: 2TU (TuTu) - Custom Korean 60% keyboard.
Post by: Belfong on Tue, 27 January 2015, 19:23:41

Quote from: Kaliet on Tue, 27 January 2015, 19:12:21
You still haven't found the solution yet?
Mail me if you're having any difficulties.
I'm trying the re mapping software now. The post above was 4 days old. Thank you Kaliet.
Title: Re: 2TU (TuTu) - Custom Korean 60% keyboard.
Post by: Armstrong01 on Sat, 11 April 2015, 08:47:28
The black/grey keycap one is the best looking kb I've seen, fan of no bezels, low profile! PM'd Kaliet (probably, new here).