That doesn't look anything like a Tex.. ::)
That doesn't look anything like a Tex.. :rolleyes:
I'm guessing tex is just another re-brander. These are probably OEM from some company.
I can't wait for them to be on newegg and go on sale and get some cheap case and switches for GH60s LOL.
Looks pretty sweet. Any release date?
Looks pretty sweet. Any release date?
well, if you don't mind the logo: http://mechanicalkeyboards.com/search.php?man=31
i guess the upside of franchising this kb, hopefully, would be more colorways/keycaps/switches. guess we'll find out.
I can't wait for them to be on newegg and go on sale and get some cheap case and switches for GH60s LOL.
Though I have a sneaking suspicion the Rosewill version will end up having every cost cutting measure they can imagine applied, at Newegg^WRosewill's insistence.
Show Image(http://www.techpowerup.com/live/images/Computex_2013/rosewill_008.jpg)
Definite win for TEX who actually designed the keyboard, presuming they didn't get screwed in the deal.
TEX should just start selling that case to the people rather than just corporations.
are tex just pimping this board around?
Just because Tex revealed their version first, doesn't mean they're the ones who designed or manufacture this, in china, there is this magical thing called ODM's who design something and then sell it to anyone and everyone who will buy it. Calm your jimmies.
You know, because I'm not the guy who's been on and on and on about ODM/OEM for the past you know, year or so or whatever. Obviously blah blah etcetera.
TEX is the original designer of the PCB, controller code and chassis. The designer has actually posted here on GH and also here (http://kbtalking.cool3c.com/article/65087). (Translated link here (http://translate.google.com/translate?sl=auto&tl=en&js=n&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&eotf=1&u=http%3A%2F%2Fkbtalking.cool3c.com%2Farticle%2F65087).) TL;DR - the same person worked on Poker and PURE. Manufacturing is performed by a third party because tooling and setup is prohibitively expensive, but that does not mean TEX is not the ODM. They are.
Well Duckys are all plate mounted so plate float sounds more likely.
I've heard someone mentioned that there was a rumour that Ducky and Costar didn't get along before so most likely that Ducky will never be using Costar stabilizers ever. Then again I have no way to confirm that.
But at the moment Ducky sounds like your best bet. Maybe wait for Ducky Shine III?
You know, because I'm not the guy who's been on and on and on about ODM/OEM for the past you know, year or so or whatever. Obviously blah blah etcetera.
TEX is the original designer of the PCB, controller code and chassis. The designer has actually posted here on GH and also here (http://kbtalking.cool3c.com/article/65087). (Translated link here (http://translate.google.com/translate?sl=auto&tl=en&js=n&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&eotf=1&u=http%3A%2F%2Fkbtalking.cool3c.com%2Farticle%2F65087).) TL;DR - the same person worked on Poker and PURE. Manufacturing is performed by a third party because tooling and setup is prohibitively expensive, but that does not mean TEX is not the ODM. They are.
I raise my drink to you sir. I'd rather look stupid and learn, than hide in the shadows of ignorance.
Well Duckys are all plate mounted so plate float sounds more likely.
I've heard someone mentioned that there was a rumour that Ducky and Costar didn't get along before so most likely that Ducky will never be using Costar stabilizers ever. Then again I have no way to confirm that.
But at the moment Ducky sounds like your best bet. Maybe wait for Ducky Shine III?You know, because I'm not the guy who's been on and on and on about ODM/OEM for the past you know, year or so or whatever. Obviously blah blah etcetera.
TEX is the original designer of the PCB, controller code and chassis. The designer has actually posted here on GH and also here (http://kbtalking.cool3c.com/article/65087). (Translated link here (http://translate.google.com/translate?sl=auto&tl=en&js=n&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&eotf=1&u=http%3A%2F%2Fkbtalking.cool3c.com%2Farticle%2F65087).) TL;DR - the same person worked on Poker and PURE. Manufacturing is performed by a third party because tooling and setup is prohibitively expensive, but that does not mean TEX is not the ODM. They are.
I raise my drink to you sir. I'd rather look stupid and learn, than hide in the shadows of ignorance.
Well I'm just kinda annoyed that somehow, nobody else bothered to look up and link this thread here (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=39693.0) where Justin from TEX stopped by to fill us in on all the details himself. (He's the guy who designed the keyboard, yes.) Especially with how excited everyone was about this particular board.
To elaborate; I think it's somewhat disrespectful to the vendors who do come by to share their neat new stuff with us, and then turn around and promptly forget about it. Then get all excited when the same keyboard gets 'announced' by a rebranding house, completely forgetting that we actually got the scoop from the designer months ago.
Hi , all
about the Rosewill new 60% aluminum , they buy a sample without any logo for Computex .
but right now , just for Computex :)
Right now , http://mechanicalkeyboards.com/search.php?man=31
(http://mechanicalkeyboards.com/search.php?man=31)
Mechanical Keyboard is our USA distributor :)
Hi , all
about the Rosewill new 60% aluminum , they buy a sample without any logo for Computex .
but right now , just for Computex :)
Right now , http://mechanicalkeyboards.com/search.php?man=31
(http://mechanicalkeyboards.com/search.php?man=31)
Mechanical Keyboard is our USA distributor :)
Wait, what? They bought a single one.. without a badge.. for Computex.. why?!
I can see where they've got it claimed as a "Micro-RK-9000" so at a minimum it's questionable ethics. (Which is about the best you ever get with Newegg.) So they're claiming that they're introducing a new model, under their own branding, using a single keyboard, without even making clear an intent to make a formal agreement to rebrand it?
... man. I would not trust those people as far as I can throw them. :/
I'm curious about this case, if it's just bent sheet metal or CNC aluminum.
I'm curious about this case, if it's just bent sheet metal or CNC aluminum.
hey, justin, glad you joined in. any word on the qwerkeys model mentioned in this post (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=44061.msg908471#msg908471)?
For QWERkeys , that's a business in Europe , but right now still in negotiation state ,
because we don't have distributor in Europe .
but for QWERkeys , maybe will some different with original .hey, justin, glad you joined in. any word on the qwerkeys model mentioned in this post (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=44061.msg908471#msg908471)?
For QWERkeys , that's a business in Europe , but right now still in negotiation state ,
because we don't have distributor in Europe .
but for QWERkeys , maybe will some different with original .hey, justin, glad you joined in. any word on the qwerkeys model mentioned in this post (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=44061.msg908471#msg908471)?
awesome. that's what i figured. so, while i have your attention, any word on the blank set of keycaps we discussed?
Don't remember where but I have seen that mouse from some other "manufacturer".Show Image(http://www.techpowerup.com/live/images/Computex_2013/rosewill_008.jpg)
Not going to lie, more interested in the Ouroboros-looking mouse there
HAHA It is an Ouroboros. Way to go Razer/Rosewill.
You mean those aren't design improvements meriting a new patent?
Keyboard looks nice, although the layout is a bit funky. Any idea on what the cost would be like?
You mean those aren't design improvements meriting a new patent?
But this thing will probably be a $40-50 shell shocker on Newegg at some point :pOr 25 bucks for the reds... :-)
I've been using a Tex Beetle at work for about a week now. First time using a 60% board so there is a learning curve, but so far I really like it. Very classy looking in my opinion with the aluminum bezel and fairly minimalist keycaps.
Justin, any chance of updated firmware soon? I'd love to have the ins/del/home/end/pgup/pgdwn cluster moved to the arrow key area.
I don't see why rebadging something is necessarily bad. A large company like Newegg/Rosewill will likely buy many more units and give the product much more exposure than if a small shop were selling it itself. In turn, the price is lower for essentially the same product. Besides, if they wanted to copy the design they probably could have done that without having a special unit made for them. It's behind glass, so who would know if they cheaped out.
Well, how do you know they didn't purchase a demo unit from Razer either. Also, they may be known to enthusiasts, but they likely lack the broad appeal that a Newegg house brand would bring. Before you accuse me of being a Newegg shill, I'm just trying to play devil's advocate here and think of things in the most rational economic terms possible.
As for ripping off a design, I would argue that's a dicier topic, most of the time. That mouse does have a pretty distinctive design so it's much more blatant in this case. However, for it to be wrong, I think you'd have to claim that it existing is somehow damaging to the original designers, either directly in terms of sales or in terms of their perceived value. And maybe you could, but I don't have any numbers in front of me. Again, just playing devil's advocate because economics is interesting!
Well, how do you know they didn't purchase a demo unit from Razer either. Also, they may be known to enthusiasts, but they likely lack the broad appeal that a Newegg house brand would bring. Before you accuse me of being a Newegg shill, I'm just trying to play devil's advocate here and think of things in the most rational economic terms possible.
As for ripping off a design, I would argue that's a dicier topic, most of the time. That mouse does have a pretty distinctive design so it's much more blatant in this case. However, for it to be wrong, I think you'd have to claim that it existing is somehow damaging to the original designers, either directly in terms of sales or in terms of their perceived value. And maybe you could, but I don't have any numbers in front of me. Again, just playing devil's advocate because economics is interesting!
Because there are enough differences between the Rosewill unit and the Ouroboros that it's more than likely a knock-off. There is a slight possibility that they got their hands on an early Razer Ouroboros prototype and slapped their logo on it, but that seems pretty far-fetched. And I would hazard that Razer are a bigger brand than Rosewill, and not just with enthusiasts. As an example, many of my friends who are definitely not in the enthusiast category know about and own Razer products, but have no idea who Rosewill are. I doubt that many of the people who shop at Newegg even know that Rosewill is a "house" brand. As far as they're concerned, it's just another brand that Newegg sells, nothing special about it.
You make a good argument, though in this particular case I'd have to say that there probably isn't a judge (in the US at least) who wouldn't side with Razer if they went to court over it. The design is too distinctive (as you point out).
However, if the Ouroboros is actually a Razer branded OEM mouse, then all bets are off (but most of Razer products don't follow that path, so I doubt it).
This is one of the few new keyboards coming from Rosewill. a 60% Unit, MAC, Windows compatible keyboard with detacheable USB cable, and most notably, and aluminium facia. The keyboard will come with anodized finishing, similar to a Macbook Pro. The keyboard can be placed ON TOP of a laptop keyboard. We are requesting to drop Unix key layout support in favor of a standard layout. The keyboard will be the CHEAPEST 60% keyboard you can get with a aluminium casing. The tentative price is RM 4xx. A casing ALONE from Vortex is over 100USD. Sorry about your wallet there!
So $130+ ?
Since they're quoting prices for Malaysia, you'd need to know if the goods are priced the same in real terms there and in the US or Europe or wherever. And this is often not the case.