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Title: Describe the perfect keyboard for yourself!!
Post by: Kamen Rider Blade on Sat, 01 February 2014, 20:37:51: So if you could design the perfect keyboard for your own personal use, what would it be, what would it look like, what layout would it have, what features would it have?

Pictures would be nice, verbal descriptions are fine, I'm just curious as to what kind of keyboard is considered perfect for each person.
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Post by: dante on Sat, 01 February 2014, 20:43:13: There is no perfect keyboard for someone with many moods..
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Post by: katushkin on Sat, 01 February 2014, 20:49:17: A 60% keyboard, with ISO layout, MX Clears, fully programmable backlights.

At the moment.
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Post by: fohat.digs on Sat, 01 February 2014, 21:20:13: A Model F that looked exactly like a full-sized (industrial or, better, metal, preferably sandblasted stainless steel!) Model M except with an additional extra set of function keys on the left, Windows keys, native USB.
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Post by: C5Allroad on Sat, 01 February 2014, 21:31:03: 60% [Edit] Change my mind ergo clears, SMD leds like in the upcoming corsair board, Poms, aluminum.
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Post by: yasuo on Sat, 01 February 2014, 21:34:03: no matter how many % though i prefer to 80% no more
but the important is /////\\\\\ :)
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Post by: The_Beast on Sat, 01 February 2014, 21:35:36: 60% model F which I have, aka the tinsaver/kishsaver
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Post by: HPE1000 on Sat, 01 February 2014, 21:44:59: I don't really know, right now I am really stressing about something like an LZ-GH/S but with a high gloss darker electric blue anodizing. (I want the anodizing to look like the KMAC 1.2)

With mx blues with gold 65g springs, blue stickers and clear switch tops. White backlighting with blue leds on the arrow keys, fn keys and wasd keys. Thick white pbt keycaps with orange modifiers.

Pretty much the most killer looking NOS inspired keyboard. I wonder if they will ever do another LZ-GH run? :)
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Post by: PointyFox on Sat, 01 February 2014, 21:46:49: It would be a Topre TKL board. Wait, I already have that :P
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Post by: Tarzan on Sat, 01 February 2014, 21:52:44: Full-size (104/108-key) keyboard with green LED backlighting, MX Grey or MX Green plate-mounted switches.
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Post by: Puddsy on Sat, 01 February 2014, 22:06:05: Filco miniLA
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Post by: terrpn on Sat, 01 February 2014, 23:08:55: using one of dorkvaders beam springs............. :cool:
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Post by: Photekq on Sat, 01 February 2014, 23:09:52: Perfect plastic keyboard - NCR 3077 Case, Leeku 3000 PCB, ergo-clears or 55g nixdorf blacks, original Cherry dyesub keycaps.
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Post by: 1pq on Sat, 01 February 2014, 23:15:23: Quote from: Photekq on Sat, 01 February 2014, 23:09:52
Perfect plastic keyboard - NCR 3077 Case, Leeku 3000 PCB, ergo-clears or 55g nixdorf blacks, original Cherry dyesub keycaps.

What are nixdorf blacks?
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Post by: dustinhxc on Sat, 01 February 2014, 23:16:36: 60%, Aluminum Case, Clears Lubed, PBT Cherry Profile.
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Post by: Photekq on Sat, 01 February 2014, 23:19:54: Quote from: 1pq on Sat, 01 February 2014, 23:15:23
Quote from: Photekq on Sat, 01 February 2014, 23:09:52
Perfect plastic keyboard - NCR 3077 Case, Leeku 3000 PCB, ergo-clears or 55g nixdorf blacks, original Cherry dyesub keycaps.

What are nixdorf blacks?
Black switches with the original clear switch tops, found on old Nixdorf PCBs. They are generally known as Nixdorf 'Soft Touch' blacks. I find that they are perfectly smooth (much more smooth than normal or ""vintage"" blacks) and they require no lubricant (it makes no different to how smooth they are).

(http://i.imgur.com/a8bXLZz.jpg)
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Post by: 1pq on Sat, 01 February 2014, 23:36:17: Quote from: Photekq on Sat, 01 February 2014, 23:19:54
Quote from: 1pq on Sat, 01 February 2014, 23:15:23
Quote from: Photekq on Sat, 01 February 2014, 23:09:52
Perfect plastic keyboard - NCR 3077 Case, Leeku 3000 PCB, ergo-clears or 55g nixdorf blacks, original Cherry dyesub keycaps.

What are nixdorf blacks?
Black switches with the original clear switch tops, found on old Nixdorf PCBs. They are generally known as Nixdorf 'Soft Touch' blacks. I find that they are perfectly smooth (much more smooth than normal or ""vintage"" blacks) and they require no lubricant (it makes no different to how smooth they are).

Show Image
(http://i.imgur.com/a8bXLZz.jpg)

Wow, that sounds amazing! Were they hard to get?
Do you think I could get some from this board (http://www.ebay.com/itm/WINCOR-NIXDORF-Microsoft-Wired-Desktop-for-Business-Keyboard-WND-5MH-00001-/141138440544?pt=PCA_Mice_Trackballs&hash=item20dc81b160)?
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Post by: mooswa on Sat, 01 February 2014, 23:40:15: Buckling Spring 60% with modern (V4) trackpoint and a fully programmable controller. Oh, and somehow it should support MX keycaps :-)
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Post by: Photekq on Sat, 01 February 2014, 23:43:27: Quote from: 1pq on Sat, 01 February 2014, 23:36:17
Wow, that sounds amazing! Were they hard to get?
Do you think I could get some from this board (http://www.ebay.com/itm/WINCOR-NIXDORF-Microsoft-Wired-Desktop-for-Business-Keyboard-WND-5MH-00001-/141138440544?pt=PCA_Mice_Trackballs&hash=item20dc81b160)?
Yes, they are very rare. No, you could not get them from that board. Only certain old Nixdorf keyboards have them. I do not know which ones..
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Post by: pchatterjee on Sat, 01 February 2014, 23:53:08: Buckling spring in modern metal casing (backlighting options if possible). Model M black on silver label switch feel. Metal aluminum or even better titanium case -- and titanium key options.

Preferably in a 104/108 key layout -- 80% board size i think would be ideal for me but not critical.
Title: Re: Describe the perfect keyboard for yourself!!
Post by: 1pq on Sat, 01 February 2014, 23:54:27: Quote from: Photekq on Sat, 01 February 2014, 23:43:27
Quote from: 1pq on Sat, 01 February 2014, 23:36:17
Wow, that sounds amazing! Were they hard to get?
Do you think I could get some from this board (http://www.ebay.com/itm/WINCOR-NIXDORF-Microsoft-Wired-Desktop-for-Business-Keyboard-WND-5MH-00001-/141138440544?pt=PCA_Mice_Trackballs&hash=item20dc81b160)?
Yes, they are very rare. No, you could not get them from that board. Only certain old Nixdorf keyboards have them. I do not know which ones..

lol...you know I was kidding about the MS RD piece of **** on ebay, right?
Well I'll know to buy them as quick as possible if I come upon any Nixdorfs. Lubed vintage until then.
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Post by: Photekq on Sat, 01 February 2014, 23:56:27: Quote from: 1pq on Sat, 01 February 2014, 23:54:27
lol...you know I was kidding about the MS RD piece of **** on ebay, right?
:))
You'd be surprised at some of the silly questions that get asked here. It's hard to tell what's a joke and what isn't sometimes..
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Post by: Comment on Sat, 01 February 2014, 23:59:16: 60% dolch base, gmk purple mods, ergo clears lubed and stickered, blue anodized alu case, cyan cable.
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Post by: Shayde on Sun, 02 February 2014, 00:07:38: TKL board in a gun-metal gray aluminium case, with black keys and fully programmable RGB backlighting, with clicky Alps switches.

I'm tempted to build this but it's currently a bit daunting due to the amount of custom work that would be required. I'm hoping Matias - or someone using their switches - makes this board, but I suspect I could be waiting a while.
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Post by: quickcrx702 on Sun, 02 February 2014, 02:59:40: A 65g Realforce, doesn't matter if it is TKL or not. 55g feels so much nicer than 45g, but I mash my keyboard like an ape, and would love to have even more tactility and resistance. Maybe one day they will make this...
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Post by: FoxWolf1 on Sun, 02 February 2014, 10:39:18: Hard to say, really...I kind of like the idea of "TK"-size layouts, but I haven't seen any actual layout in that size category that looks right to me, and I don't know if it's even possible to do that size in a way that I'd consider good enough.

Failing the invention of a good layout of that size, I'd have to go for full size, preferably a layout with both a full-size backspace and big enter (put the \| on one or the other side of right shift, which I never use anyway). As for construction, I don't like aluminum. So: Steel plate, steel case (thick, not too big in terms of margins, but please, no sharp corners), thick PBT doubleshot keycaps. For features: give it protective covers over the switches (Azio-style), adjustable debounce time, high scan speed and polling rate, NKRO, MX switches with stabilizing pins (like for PCB mount, though this would have a plate as well).

Ideally, this would come with an accessory of a trackball wrist rest-- think iOne Libra-35, but better: it'd be the same width as the keyboard, with the padded portion of the rest done with the materials and construction standards of EK's 3-star leather wrist rest (or better), a higher quality trackball than in the Libra-35 with onboard sensitivity adjustment, and of course it would be made by a company who are better at making things than iOne.
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Post by: riotonthebay on Sun, 02 February 2014, 10:44:07: I'm absolutely in love with the keyboard I'm using right now… Poker X, 62g lubed clears, Hammer TI case, GMK Dolch.

The thing missing for me is a better layout. Once I get a new plate from The_Beast (1.5x ANSI with a short r-shift) and a GH60 PCB, I'm pretty sure this will be my optimal MX 60%.

I'd ****ing love a kishsaver though…
Title: Re: Describe the perfect keyboard for yourself!!
Post by: 1pq on Sun, 02 February 2014, 10:53:11: Quote from: riotonthebay on Sun, 02 February 2014, 10:44:07
I'm absolutely in love with the keyboard I'm using right now… Poker X, 62g lubed clears, Hammer TI case, GMK Dolch.

The thing missing for me is a better layout. Once I get a new plate from The_Beast (1.5x ANSI with a short r-shift) and a GH60 PCB, I'm pretty sure this will be my optimal MX 60%.

I'd ****ing love a kishsaver though…

What do you have mapped to your arrow keys currently?
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Post by: riotonthebay on Sun, 02 February 2014, 10:55:23: Quote from: 1pq on Sun, 02 February 2014, 10:53:11
Quote from: riotonthebay on Sun, 02 February 2014, 10:44:07
I'm absolutely in love with the keyboard I'm using right now… Poker X, 62g lubed clears, Hammer TI case, GMK Dolch.

The thing missing for me is a better layout. Once I get a new plate from The_Beast (1.5x ANSI with a short r-shift) and a GH60 PCB, I'm pretty sure this will be my optimal MX 60%.

I'd ****ing love a kishsaver though…

What do you have mapped to your arrow keys currently?

Fn+WASD

As an Emacs user though, I almost ever use arrow keys. Ctrl+PBNF (that took a while to become second-nature…)
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Post by: tp4tissue on Sun, 02 February 2014, 11:32:59: My perfect keyboard would be cybernetic implants at the ends of my efferent neurons...

(http://www.emotasia.com/wp-content/uploads/totally-naughty-panda-emoticon-29.gif)
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Post by: Candyflip on Sun, 02 February 2014, 11:36:48: Alu case TKL with lubed and stickered 62g Korean gold spring ergo-clears, classic beige GMK doubleshots :D
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Post by: KatzenKinder on Sun, 02 February 2014, 12:44:54: Full-size, plate-mounted, double-thick PCB with thick PBT caps and MX Browns.
Additionally, gotta have detachable, braided cable *drool*
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Post by: Hak Foo on Sun, 02 February 2014, 12:49:26: The conventional 104 layout, with two extra copies of the top row at the top, programmable for macros and media controls.

Matias Loud switches.

DSA caps, possibly in Round 5 colour scheme. Red function row, white and grey main area, and perhaps red or grey for the programmable rows.

A case reminiscent of a Wang 724, with big-ass feet and a slide-in for a guide for the programmable keys.
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Post by: gropingmantis on Sun, 02 February 2014, 12:55:17: Reprogrammable ISO HHKB.
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Post by: Linkbane on Sun, 02 February 2014, 23:11:22: FC660C with metal volume wheel and a 2x3 vertical navigation cluster where the insert/delete buttons currently are and cable channels or an Ergodox with retractable cable, Blue/Topre switches, and the no-desoldering plate on it.
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Post by: moonexe on Mon, 03 February 2014, 01:52:03: G80-3000 in pure white, gold logo, and tenkeyless.
White on black alphas, blank black modifiers with portal OS keys, white on purple (or blue) WASD, white on red Esc.
Purple (or blue) braided cable.
And of course a matching numpad. :D

It's all doable, but I don't wanna cut the numpad off my G80...
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Post by: tbc on Mon, 03 February 2014, 02:28:58: let's start with a poker layout:

1. take it's backspace key and turn it into 2 1x keys
2. take the left shift and turn it into a 1x + 1.25x setup (ordering is important, the 1x should be on the left edge, not ion the inside)
3. take the right shift, leave the leftmost .75 as an empty gap, then 2 1x keys.
4. add a 1x key to the right of left-alt (yes, this will bump the spacebar over; no the spacebar will still be 6.25)
5. replace the 4 bottom-left 1.25 keys with 4 1x keys
6. add another column of 1x keys ton the left side of the board (maybe with a slight .25x gap)

I can explain the layout in more detail later, but basically, it's a 'no-function-layer' board with a cursor block and macro support (i don't use right-shift, so it can go to hell); something like a mx-mini, but less wide.
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Post by: mapple on Mon, 03 February 2014, 03:43:13: oh boy dreams on paper:D

1. model m feel buckling spring
2. TKL - usa-ansi layout
yay i know it's ssk
3. backlight - with all rgb led available each diode separately conf
4. titanium case
5. dsa-pbt profile keycaps
6. detachable cable
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Post by: Oobly on Mon, 03 February 2014, 04:19:15: This:

[attach=1]

MX browns with 62g ErgoClears on the thumb clusters, Esc, Del, arrows and edit keys. All switches trampoline and latex modded. Fully programmable and plug and play (no special drivers), custom layout (ADnW BU-Teck with some modifications).

Or for a more conventional answer, a GH60 with the Nostalgia set in a white case (ANSI layout with custom function layers).
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Post by: yasuo on Mon, 03 February 2014, 04:21:55: Quote from: Oobly on Mon, 03 February 2014, 04:19:15
Or for a more conventional answer, a GH60 with the Nostalgia set in a white case (ANSI layout with custom function layers).
Oobly,why you comeback to traditional? :-X
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Post by: Oobly on Mon, 03 February 2014, 04:27:41: Quote from: yasuo on Mon, 03 February 2014, 04:21:55
Quote from: Oobly on Mon, 03 February 2014, 04:19:15
Or for a more conventional answer, a GH60 with the Nostalgia set in a white case (ANSI layout with custom function layers).
Oobly,why you comeback to traditional? :-X

To look pretty and for when someone else needs to use my PC ;)
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Post by: Coreda on Mon, 03 February 2014, 04:47:38: Will see how my mechanical adventures work out, in the meantime some basic things I'd like to see in a board:

- 60% with full hardware remapping and macros, or arrow keys that don't look ugly. An example of arrow keys on a 60%:

(http://i.imgur.com/WrY8IZL.jpg)

- USB hub. I'm surprised when some people say it's a useless feature, au contraire! It's both easily accessible and can minimize cables strewn across the desk, as some of the best peripherals are wired. That is, unless you have a USB hub in your monitor.

- Good-looking, minimal case, and a layout with standard size key sizes.

More
(http://i.imgur.com/3sVKSRI.jpg)

Happy Hacking Pro 2

- Nice typeface, no-nonsense keycap design. Obviously they are changeable, but how many stock mechanical keyboards feature ugly font choices, seriously. It's an additional cost to replace them so it can affect buying choices.

More
(http://i.imgur.com/qfWEUVT.jpg)

Duck0113 Code Name Viper. If this isn't the sexiest board I've ever seen. Doubleshot is beautiful.
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Post by: eddie on Mon, 03 February 2014, 05:25:22: 60% with function keys and connected numpad to the left with stock clears. Hangul double shot thick pbt keycaps. Metal case.. That's about it.
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Post by: tbc on Mon, 03 February 2014, 05:30:42: coreda, that's not a 60% fyi. it's a 60% with an extra right column. that's how there are so many extra keys
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Post by: Coreda on Mon, 03 February 2014, 05:49:02: Quote from: tbc on Mon, 03 February 2014, 05:30:42
coreda, that's not a 60% fyi. it's a 60% with an extra right column. that's how there are so many extra keys

So a 65% I guess? As the right row only extends to the Backspace key, and lacks the additional Fn row of a 75%.

If there were half-sized keys we could fit arrow keys in smaller spaces :D Although I think I'd prefer programmability to keep a more pleasing appearance.
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Post by: Linkbane on Mon, 03 February 2014, 10:52:32: Quote from: eddie on Mon, 03 February 2014, 05:25:22
60% with function keys and connected numpad to the left with stock clears. Hangul double shot thick pbt keycaps. Metal case.. That's about it.

By connected numpad, do you mean a separate USB numpad connected to a passthrough?
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Post by: gh_pp on Wed, 05 February 2014, 00:25:47: in order

TKL
fully programmable
steel plate with open switch design
dedicated circle volume knob, play/pause, prev/next buttons
usb hub (wired) or wireless
thin bezel
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Post by: kod on Wed, 05 February 2014, 11:38:31: adjustable split / tenting
programmable (including mapping held keys differently from tapped keys)
tactile, replaceable switches
light spring weight
symmetric layout
usable thumb keys
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Post by: HPE1000 on Wed, 05 February 2014, 11:43:10: Quote from: kod on Wed, 05 February 2014, 11:38:31
adjustable split / tenting
programmable (including mapping held keys differently from tapped keys)
tactile, replaceable switches
light spring weight
symmetric layout
usable thumb keys
Ergodox? :confused:
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Post by: kod on Wed, 05 February 2014, 13:43:04: Hence why I said "usable" thumb keys :)
Ergodox thumb cluster is too far away for me.
Cherry switches also aren't really tactile.
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Post by: Comment on Wed, 05 February 2014, 13:45:45: Quote from: kod on Wed, 05 February 2014, 13:43:04
Cherry switches also aren't really tactile.

They're not? I think clears are extremely tactile.
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Post by: HPE1000 on Wed, 05 February 2014, 13:52:27: Quote from: kod on Wed, 05 February 2014, 13:43:04
Hence why I said "usable" thumb keys :)
Ergodox thumb cluster is too far away for me.
Cherry switches also aren't really tactile.
Ah, I have pretty massive hands so I don't think I would have any problems with an ergodox.

Also, what cherry switches have you tried?
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Post by: tricheboars on Wed, 05 February 2014, 14:03:48: hopefully the ergodox i just ordered from massdrop with Round 5 SA caps.

but as of right now this very day i have to say my custom poker. the pom caps, plate mounted blue switches, and hammer aluminum case makes it feel so solid and wonderful.

POM is the ****. it is just so awesome.
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Post by: kod on Wed, 05 February 2014, 14:13:56: I've tried cherry browns, blues, clears.

The difference between them and really tactile interfaces (buckling springs, sanwa microswitched joysticks, clicky alps) is pretty profound.
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Post by: robertsig on Wed, 05 February 2014, 14:17:59: * Realforce based 87-key layout, off-white/gray
* Better controller (so Scroll-Lock works on KVM's)
* Uniform Topre switches, 49g weight
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Post by: Touch_It on Wed, 05 February 2014, 14:23:36: 122 key IBM model F, standard (I think ANSI layout).
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Post by: Mr. C on Wed, 05 February 2014, 16:28:25: I would be happy with FC660c with Function keys.
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Post by: Aer Fixus on Thu, 06 February 2014, 16:36:41: Quote from: Touch_It on Wed, 05 February 2014, 14:23:36
122 key IBM model F, standard (I think ANSI layout).

Standard layout for an F122 is terminal ISO. ISO for the alphanumerics, but with a split + key on the numpad and some re-arranged key positions because of the terminal layout. However, they can be modded to ANSI with some precision elbow grease.
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Post by: BrokenGame on Mon, 10 February 2014, 10:57:27: Titanium HHKB 55g keys + PBT Topre raindrop. That would be awesome.
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Post by: ferociousfingerings on Mon, 10 February 2014, 11:17:14: Quote from: tp4tissue on Sun, 02 February 2014, 11:32:59
My perfect keyboard would be cybernetic implants at the ends of my efferent neurons...

Show Image
(http://www.emotasia.com/wp-content/uploads/totally-naughty-panda-emoticon-29.gif)

Hah, beat me to it.

I would prefer to simply think the words into the machine; there's no way my fingers will ever be as fast as my thoughts.

Consider this: If i think in visual imagery, and a "movie" is ~24+ fps, and "a picture's worth 1000 words..."

There's no way i will ever be able to "type" 24,000 WPM... and that's not even counting "gamers" who notice anything below monitor refresh rate.

What if we could convert fluid motion imagery directly to language, in real-time, just by thinking? Or even literally "stream" our very consciousness... all thoughts, dreams, memories, images, sounds... or even quantify and digitize actual feelings...
Title: Re: Describe the perfect keyboard for yourself!!
Post by: 1pq on Sun, 23 February 2014, 22:07:45: Quote from: Oobly on Mon, 03 February 2014, 04:19:15
This:

(Attachment Link)

MX browns with 62g ErgoClears on the thumb clusters, Esc, Del, arrows and edit keys. All switches trampoline and latex modded. Fully programmable and plug and play (no special drivers), custom layout (ADnW BU-Teck with some modifications).

Or for a more conventional answer, a GH60 with the Nostalgia set in a white case (ANSI layout with custom function layers).

Oobly, do you have a thread on this keyboard? It looks awesome and I'd love to learn more about it.
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Post by: Pacifist on Sun, 23 February 2014, 22:10:15: Quote from: 1pq on Sun, 23 February 2014, 22:07:45
Quote from: Oobly on Mon, 03 February 2014, 04:19:15
This:

(Attachment Link)

MX browns with 62g ErgoClears on the thumb clusters, Esc, Del, arrows and edit keys. All switches trampoline and latex modded. Fully programmable and plug and play (no special drivers), custom layout (ADnW BU-Teck with some modifications).

Or for a more conventional answer, a GH60 with the Nostalgia set in a white case (ANSI layout with custom function layers).

Oobly, do you have a thread on this keyboard? It looks awesome and I'd love to learn more about it.

Oobly->show posts->topics->http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=49721.msg1077639#msg1077639
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Post by: Melvang on Sun, 23 February 2014, 22:30:16: lubed ergo clears, Stainless plate x4 sandwiched and bolted together, stainless case, hard wired power switch, reset switch, all 304 stainless. Because that is the same grade of stainless used in the DMC Delorean.
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Post by: hwood34 on Sun, 23 February 2014, 23:26:09: TKL w/ mx blacks. I'm a man of simple needs :)
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Post by: Pacifist on Sun, 23 February 2014, 23:28:52: [attachimg=1]+ QazPad
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Post by: Photoelectric on Sun, 23 February 2014, 23:29:14: A beamspring keyboard in a TKL or 75% form factor, ANSI layout, and a low profile case for overall lower height.
Title: Re: Describe the perfect keyboard for yourself!!
Post by: Lastpilot on Sun, 23 February 2014, 23:31:42: Quote from: Photoelectric on Sun, 23 February 2014, 23:29:14
A beamspring keyboard in a TKL or 75% form factor, ANSI layout, and a low profile case for overall lower height.
For some reason I was expecting something with more...LEDs XD
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Post by: Photoelectric on Sun, 23 February 2014, 23:33:04: I already have 2 keyboards for full LED madness and one with a lot of function LEDs :)
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Post by: Kitesurfer on Mon, 24 February 2014, 00:34:19: In descending importance order :
fully programmable
buckling spring
split and tenting
matrix
compact, TKL
black blank PBT keycaps
integrated trackpad or trackpoint
alu case
USB hub
detachable cable
Title: Re: Describe the perfect keyboard for yourself!!
Post by: simon_C on Mon, 24 February 2014, 01:02:14: 84key
Dvorak
no Winkeys
control instead of capslock
fully addressable rgb backlight
detachable cord
thick backlight-compatible doubleshot keycaps
ergoclears, browns, or blues
Stainless steel case like K65, with integrated wrist wrest.
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Post by: daerid on Mon, 24 February 2014, 01:06:34: Wireless ErgoDox with 55g Topres and movable thumb clusters on ball mounts.

Never. Gonna. Happen.
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Post by: Emospence on Mon, 24 February 2014, 01:15:18: Perhaps a uniform 60g Topre..
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Post by: pbtforever on Mon, 24 February 2014, 08:16:25: Anything with PBT keys!
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Post by: hwood34 on Mon, 24 February 2014, 08:18:31: Quote from: Emospence on Mon, 24 February 2014, 01:15:18
Perhaps a uniform 60g Topre..
A man can dream...
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Post by: Computer-Lab in Basement on Mon, 24 February 2014, 08:23:01: 60% Model M with NKRO and MX-compatible key caps.
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Post by: quake4mhg on Mon, 24 February 2014, 22:39:55: Filco Lefty Keyboard DFK-901LF-II :'(
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Post by: Kamen Rider Blade on Mon, 24 February 2014, 23:17:16: For me, there isn't a perfect keyboard since I like to many styles, but a perfect keycap would be a e-ink keycap with clear polycarbonate top to protect the e-ink screen.
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Post by: type.n on Mon, 24 February 2014, 23:26:54: Something with "Cherry MX Purple" linear switches with 50g-55g of actuation force.
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Post by: yasuo on Mon, 24 February 2014, 23:31:31: you mean this http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=52646.msg1169236#msg1169236
Mx Purple
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Post by: type.n on Mon, 24 February 2014, 23:36:07: No click! Just a smooth linear switch with 50-55g of actuation force.
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Post by: JPG on Mon, 24 February 2014, 23:38:58: Quote from: Computer-Lab in Basement on Mon, 24 February 2014, 08:23:01
60% Model M with NKRO and MX-compatible key caps.

Or just a kishsaver and you keep them BS keycaps? :p

As for me, since falling in love with my F122, I now dream of a space unsaver (F122 without the numpad), and in fact, to be perfect, I would even prefer to have a F122 but without the navigation part (arrows and above). A 60% F could do the job since I aim to mostly use the 60% section with layers thx to Soarer, but I still find it nice looking to be just big, yet the F122 is just a little too big for my mouse to be at the right place so removing either the numpad or the nav cluster would be perfect. And since I remap the nav cluster on a layer anyway, as well keep the numpad for the rare occasions where it would be useful. And them 24+10 function keys, just badass and they use space that would not be used anyway. OK, I have yet to try a split ergo keyboard, but that's another story!
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Post by: gameaholic on Tue, 25 February 2014, 10:26:14: Titanium color low profile aluminum case.
Winkeyless ansi layout with stepped capslock.
Costar stabilizers for except for spacebar which would have clipped cherry stabilizers so I could flip it around.
Lubed and stickered cherry mx clear with gold 62g springs.
New Cherry/Corsair RGB backlighting.
GMK two tone black on beige two tone double shots (with fixed tab).
Custom sleeved usb cable.

Photek's Tek-80 comes pretty damn close but I would prefer a low profile, rectangular case like my kmac.
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Post by: Computer-Lab in Basement on Tue, 25 February 2014, 10:29:27: Quote from: JPG on Mon, 24 February 2014, 23:38:58
Quote from: Computer-Lab in Basement on Mon, 24 February 2014, 08:23:01
60% Model M with NKRO and MX-compatible key caps.

Or just a kishsaver and you keep them BS keycaps? :p

Idk, I think a Kishsaver would look killer with an orange case and a Nostalgia set...
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Post by: CPTBadAss on Tue, 25 February 2014, 10:31:05: Quote from: Photoelectric on Sun, 23 February 2014, 23:29:14
A beamspring keyboard in a TKL or 75% form factor, ANSI layout, and a low profile case for overall lower height.

This would be very nice.

I think a nice layout is the 75% layout on the Epsilon or Siig Minitouch. Or the 22MX mini (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=41055.msg818868#msg818868). But I'd like Blue Alps switches. Aluminum case in the vein of a KMAC case/TEK-80/Hammer, stainless steel plate, true Purple LEDs, GMK/Cherry profile doubleshot ABS caps in a purple/pink colorway.

If we're going for dream keyboard status, swap out stainless steel and aluminum for inconel.
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Post by: SpAmRaY on Tue, 25 February 2014, 10:32:07: There is no such thing as a perfect keyboard :eek:
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Post by: Melvang on Wed, 26 February 2014, 11:34:39: Quote from: CPTBadAss on Tue, 25 February 2014, 10:31:05
Quote from: Photoelectric on Sun, 23 February 2014, 23:29:14
A beamspring keyboard in a TKL or 75% form factor, ANSI layout, and a low profile case for overall lower height.

This would be very nice.

I think a nice layout is the 75% layout on the Epsilon or Siig Minitouch. Or the 22MX mini (http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=41055.msg818868#msg818868). But I'd like Blue Alps switches. Aluminum case in the vein of a KMAC case/TEK-80/Hammer, stainless steel plate, true Purple LEDs, GMK/Cherry profile doubleshot ABS caps in a purple/pink colorway.

If we're going for dream keyboard status, swap out stainless steel and aluminum for inconel.

Do you realize how much of a PITA that stuff is to machine and work with?? That stuff almost has to be waterjet. Tooling for typical machining is STUPID expensive. That stuff as a plate would be ultra stiff though. I love the idea.
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Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 26 February 2014, 11:38:11: Quote from: Melvang on Wed, 26 February 2014, 11:34:39
Quote from: CPTBadAss on Tue, 25 February 2014, 10:31:05
If we're going for dream keyboard status, swap out stainless steel and aluminum for inconel.

Do you realize how much of a PITA that stuff is to machine and work with?? That stuff almost has to be waterjet. Tooling for typical machining is STUPID expensive. That stuff as a plate would be ultra stiff though. I love the idea.

Of course I do haha. Hence why it's a dream keyboard and not anything practical :P.
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Post by: Melvang on Wed, 26 February 2014, 11:40:27: Quote from: CPTBadAss on Wed, 26 February 2014, 11:38:11
Quote from: Melvang on Wed, 26 February 2014, 11:34:39
Quote from: CPTBadAss on Tue, 25 February 2014, 10:31:05
If we're going for dream keyboard status, swap out stainless steel and aluminum for inconel.

Do you realize how much of a PITA that stuff is to machine and work with?? That stuff almost has to be waterjet. Tooling for typical machining is STUPID expensive. That stuff as a plate would be ultra stiff though. I love the idea.

Of course I do haha. Hence why it's a dream keyboard and not anything practical :P.

If I had the financial means to do so I would totally go in on that with you.
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Post by: CPTBadAss on Wed, 26 February 2014, 11:43:13: If I had the means I'd be at the shop watching them break bits instead of dreaming about it ;).
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Post by: Melvang on Wed, 26 February 2014, 11:44:11: Quote from: CPTBadAss on Wed, 26 February 2014, 11:43:13
If I had the means I'd be at the shop watching them break bits instead of dreaming about it ;).

Better take a cam. I want to see.
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Post by: johndavis33 on Wed, 26 February 2014, 17:15:59: My ducky g2 pro PBT with greens, but with a better color scheme (gray on gray - boring), and a metal case. Keep everything else the same.

And a 60% bluetooth version with a trackpoint for travel!
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Post by: TheRavenDog on Thu, 27 February 2014, 20:32:02: Buckling spring
USB, PS/2, and Bluetooth support.
LiPoly battery for Bluetooth. Charged by the USB or PS/2 connection.
Integrated USB hub with additional USB ports on the left and right side.
Programmable via a micro SD card that has a simple XML file describing the scan codes sent for each key
Transparent Key stems
Integrated LED for each key. Or Promethium-147 radioluminescent ink used for the keycap legends.
Each key is a separate switch with an integrated diode to prevent ghosting.
PS/2 version would have N-key rollover.
Each key is secured via a bolt to a back-plane.
The back-plane has trace positions for key in many different locations (so you can add more switches).
Open source and fully programmable firmware (loaded from the SD card).
A reset switch on the back.
Adjustable weight and tilt.
Integrated PIR motion detector that sends the "lock computer" command when you're no longer in front of your computer for 15 seconds.
No CapsLock key. Instead another modifier key.
No NumLock key. Instead another Esc key. The number pad is just numbers.
No ScrollLock, Print Screen, Break/Pause keys. Instead F1-F30!
No Insert-button. Instead a "Close" button that the OS understands to mean "close the window with focus".
Some extra keys: Lock, Sleep, and Power.
Extra modifier keys: Option, Function, Command, and Cmd.

137 key format (see the picture below)
(http://i.imgur.com/k6dkgY4.png)
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Post by: 1pq on Fri, 28 February 2014, 19:37:26: My dream keyboard: a topre board that felt as good as the FC660C but in 40% form factor, with cherry compatible stems and an titanium case (not just the color—the metal :D).
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Post by: Snarfangel on Fri, 28 February 2014, 20:09:17: A capacitive buckling spring Maltron L90 with reprogrammable and relegendable keys might not be perfect, but it would keep me happy until perfection came along.

Perhaps something with Hall effect switches and OLED keycaps...
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Post by: demik on Fri, 28 February 2014, 20:21:09: cooks dinner and runs my bath.

if my hhkb could do that i'd marry it.
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Post by: katushkin on Fri, 28 February 2014, 20:52:27: Quote from: katushkin on Sat, 01 February 2014, 20:49:17
A 60% keyboard, with ISO layout, MX Clears, fully programmable backlights.

At the moment.

And now it's a full size, ISO layout, Keycool built, titanium case, ~~buckling spring~~ ~~topre~~ ~~MX Clear~~ ~~Ergo Clear~~ I DONT KNOW, PBT keyboard, with a FN row full of V1 and V2 brobots and CCs (4 of each)
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Post by: Melvang on Sat, 01 March 2014, 00:05:35: Stainless steel cased Ergo Dox with buckling springs and the thumb switches mounted so you pushed "in" instead of down.