Post by: C5Allroad on Wed, 27 May 2015, 16:40:48
Here's the thing. Run a line from the router to my room. Or buy a wireless doodad and plug it into my computer to get the full 50mbps?
Post by: tp4tissue on Wed, 27 May 2015, 16:43:59
A new router + new wireless card would improve your throughput.
But it will not improve LATENCY.. <this is more critical> to gaming than is throughput.
what router do you have
Post by: smknjoe on Wed, 27 May 2015, 16:47:24
Post by: C5Allroad on Wed, 27 May 2015, 16:47:56
Tp4 is WIRED.. gotta get my GH @ < 20ms
A new router + new wireless card would improve your throughput.
But it will not improve LATENCY.. <this is more critical> to gaming than is throughput.
what router do you have
Comcast's................
Better than AT&T....
I have an Asus n66u lying around. Just waiting for a new modem. Micro atx, don't have room for wireless card.
Post by: C5Allroad on Wed, 27 May 2015, 16:48:40
Always go wired if it's not too inconvenient.Mother said must be proper installation... Don't wanna drill just to have it reach the next room.
Post by: tp4tissue on Wed, 27 May 2015, 16:53:15
Always go wired if it's not too inconvenient.Mother said must be proper installation... Don't wanna drill just to have it reach the next room.
I'm not sure what you mean by proper installation... If she mean "In wall".. Good luck, LOL, it's probably not going to happen then..
What less proper people usually do is route up to the attic, and have it come down through a hole in the closet.. then run that along the bottom of the wall..
Make sure to get good quality cables if you do this.. otherwise it won't take the heat in the attic, if it's a long run.
The N66u is more than enough as a router..
Micro-atx or itx.. You should have room for a wireless card if it's micro atx.
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Wed, 27 May 2015, 16:54:23
Always go wired if it's not too inconvenient.Mother said must be proper installation... Don't wanna drill just to have it reach the next room.
Oh, parents. I love having the freedom to run cables all over. ^-^
Have you explored the option of those crazy power outlet ethernet doodads?
Post by: C5Allroad on Wed, 27 May 2015, 16:54:52
Don't have room lol. The Comcast modem is fine for now. I just wanna be able to use the 5ghz frequency.Always go wired if it's not too inconvenient.Mother said must be proper installation... Don't wanna drill just to have it reach the next room.
I'm not sure what you mean by proper installation... If she mean "In wall".. Good luck, LOL, it's probably not going to happen then..
What less proper people usually do is route up to the attic, and have it come down through a hole in the closet.. then run that along the bottom of the wall..
Make sure to get good quality cables if you do this.. otherwise it won't take the heat in the attic, if it's a long run.
The N66u is more than enough as a router..
Micro-atx or itx.. You should have room for a wireless card if it's micro atx.
[EDIT] Sorry for double posting. On my phone and press send as you guys reply.
Post by: tp4tissue on Wed, 27 May 2015, 16:55:25
Always go wired if it's not too inconvenient.Mother said must be proper installation... Don't wanna drill just to have it reach the next room.
Oh, parents. I love having the freedom to run cables all over. ^-^
Have you explored the option of those crazy power outlet ethernet doodads?
(http://www.cute-factor.com/images/smilies/onion/f5f49335.gif)
Noooooooooooooooooooooo
Trust me, they suck ass.. I already tried a bunch of different brands.. You'll get 10-15mbps AT BEST .. doesn't matter if it's rated for 500mbps
You don't get anything close to that.
Post by: C5Allroad on Wed, 27 May 2015, 16:55:25
I have not... But I'm interested now.Always go wired if it's not too inconvenient.Mother said must be proper installation... Don't wanna drill just to have it reach the next room.
Oh, parents. I love having the freedom to run cables all over. ^-^
Have you explored the option of those crazy power outlet ethernet doodads?
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Wed, 27 May 2015, 16:57:44
I have not... But I'm interested now.Always go wired if it's not too inconvenient.Mother said must be proper installation... Don't wanna drill just to have it reach the next room.
Oh, parents. I love having the freedom to run cables all over. ^-^
Have you explored the option of those crazy power outlet ethernet doodads?
lol I like tp's reaction. :))
They're not amazing by any means. But I honestly don't know enough about them one way or the other. I just know they exist. :) I still vote to run a wire. :P But that's always my solution.
Post by: C5Allroad on Wed, 27 May 2015, 16:59:01
How reliable are those little usb wireless doodads?I have not... But I'm interested now.Always go wired if it's not too inconvenient.Mother said must be proper installation... Don't wanna drill just to have it reach the next room.
Oh, parents. I love having the freedom to run cables all over. ^-^
Have you explored the option of those crazy power outlet ethernet doodads?
lol I like tp's reaction. :))
They're not amazing by any means. But I honestly don't know enough about them one way or the other. I just know they exist. :) I still vote to run a wire.But that's always my solution.
Post by: tp4tissue on Wed, 27 May 2015, 17:00:59
I have not... But I'm interested now.Always go wired if it's not too inconvenient.Mother said must be proper installation... Don't wanna drill just to have it reach the next room.
Oh, parents. I love having the freedom to run cables all over. ^-^
Have you explored the option of those crazy power outlet ethernet doodads?
lol I like tp's reaction. :))
They're not amazing by any means. But I honestly don't know enough about them one way or the other. I just know they exist. :) I still vote to run a wire. :P But that's always my solution.
HunterA, you can PM me the layout to your house, and I can tell you where to drill to wire up through the attic and into your room..
It has to be a pretty accurate sketch, if not the actual plans, the reason is.. I need to know where there's crawl space..
It's impossible to handle the wire in some cases without a crawlspace..
Post by: C5Allroad on Wed, 27 May 2015, 17:02:12
Er... Give me a few. We have an attic. Just don't think it reaches the room...I have not... But I'm interested now.Always go wired if it's not too inconvenient.Mother said must be proper installation... Don't wanna drill just to have it reach the next room.
Oh, parents. I love having the freedom to run cables all over. ^-^
Have you explored the option of those crazy power outlet ethernet doodads?
lol I like tp's reaction. :))
They're not amazing by any means. But I honestly don't know enough about them one way or the other. I just know they exist. :) I still vote to run a wire.
HunterA, you can PM me the layout to your house, and I can tell you where to drill to wire up through the attic and into your room..
It has to be a pretty accurate sketch, if not the actual plans, the reason is.. I need to know where there's crawl space..
It's impossible to handle the wire in some cases without a crawlspace..
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Wed, 27 May 2015, 17:02:23
I have not... But I'm interested now.Always go wired if it's not too inconvenient.Mother said must be proper installation... Don't wanna drill just to have it reach the next room.
Oh, parents. I love having the freedom to run cables all over. ^-^
Have you explored the option of those crazy power outlet ethernet doodads?
lol I like tp's reaction. :))
They're not amazing by any means. But I honestly don't know enough about them one way or the other. I just know they exist. :) I still vote to run a wire. :P But that's always my solution.
HunterA, you can PM me the layout to your house, and I can tell you where to drill to wire up through the attic and into your room..
It has to be a pretty accurate sketch, if not the actual plans, the reason is.. I need to know where there's crawl space..
It's impossible to handle the wire in some cases without a crawlspace..
ROFL yeah lemme just hand over the plans to my lair to some guy on the Internet. That'll end well.
Post by: C5Allroad on Wed, 27 May 2015, 17:02:57
We don't have the plans. I'd have to eyeball the rooms lolI have not... But I'm interested now.Always go wired if it's not too inconvenient.Mother said must be proper installation... Don't wanna drill just to have it reach the next room.
Oh, parents. I love having the freedom to run cables all over. ^-^
Have you explored the option of those crazy power outlet ethernet doodads?
lol I like tp's reaction. :))
They're not amazing by any means. But I honestly don't know enough about them one way or the other. I just know they exist. :) I still vote to run a wire.
HunterA, you can PM me the layout to your house, and I can tell you where to drill to wire up through the attic and into your room..
It has to be a pretty accurate sketch, if not the actual plans, the reason is.. I need to know where there's crawl space..
It's impossible to handle the wire in some cases without a crawlspace..
ROFL yeah lemme just hand over the plans to my lair to some guy on the Internet. That'll end well.
Post by: tp4tissue on Wed, 27 May 2015, 17:04:24
How reliable are those little usb wireless doodads?I have not... But I'm interested now.Always go wired if it's not too inconvenient.Mother said must be proper installation... Don't wanna drill just to have it reach the next room.
Oh, parents. I love having the freedom to run cables all over. ^-^
Have you explored the option of those crazy power outlet ethernet doodads?
lol I like tp's reaction. :))
They're not amazing by any means. But I honestly don't know enough about them one way or the other. I just know they exist. :) I still vote to run a wire.
They're crummy at best, in terms of latency/ throughput..
As far as connection stability, there shouldn't be a problem if you got an n66u.. (make sure to update to latest firmware, or tomato)
Post by: absyrd on Wed, 27 May 2015, 17:05:02
ROFL yeah lemme just hand over the plans to my lair to some guy on the Internet. That'll end well.
Don't forget to include directions to nearest hardware store for duct tape, shovel, heavy duty trashbags, hacksaw, etc.
Post by: C5Allroad on Wed, 27 May 2015, 17:07:12
Hmm..... I'll be working on w sketch lolHow reliable are those little usb wireless doodads?I have not... But I'm interested now.Always go wired if it's not too inconvenient.Mother said must be proper installation... Don't wanna drill just to have it reach the next room.
Oh, parents. I love having the freedom to run cables all over. ^-^
Have you explored the option of those crazy power outlet ethernet doodads?
lol I like tp's reaction. :))
They're not amazing by any means. But I honestly don't know enough about them one way or the other. I just know they exist. :) I still vote to run a wire.
They're crummy at best, in terms of latency/ throughput..
As far as connection stability, there shouldn't be a problem if you got an n66u.. (make sure to update to latest firmware, or tomato)
Post by: tp4tissue on Wed, 27 May 2015, 17:08:21
ROFL yeah lemme just hand over the plans to my lair to some guy on the Internet. That'll end well.
Don't forget to include directions to nearest hardware store for duct tape, shovel, heavy duty trashbags, hacksaw, etc.
OK.. same tip as in the Dating thread.. Make sure to post on GH so the members know ur alrite..
Set to auto-logout of GH..
Also, seriously guys.. I'd thought ya'll know me well enuff by now that I'm not violent like that.
also, even if I had the plans.. I wouldn't know -where- his house is..
Tp4 being an Internet-Entity doesn't even have any such desires to LEAVE the internet..
Post by: smknjoe on Wed, 27 May 2015, 17:15:22
Asus (USB-AC56) Dual-band Wireless-AC1200 USB 3.0 Wi-Fi Adapter
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00FB45USW/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o02_s01?ie=UTF8&psc=1
Post by: tp4tissue on Wed, 27 May 2015, 17:23:21
I bought one of these a year ago and it's a little flaky really. All of a sudden my connection would just drop for no apparent reason. No interference, not a problem with the router, the other wireless card (2.4GHzJ) on the laptop never had trouble with the same router, and all network diagnostics were error free otherwise. It would actually cause the entire USB bus to flake out on the laptop. I've been running with Ethernet ever since with no trouble at all.
Asus (USB-AC56) Dual-band Wireless-AC1200 USB 3.0 Wi-Fi Adapter
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00FB45USW/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o02_s01?ie=UTF8&psc=1
Wired is definitely the best way to go..
There's also the matter of "consistency" when it comes to wireless signals..
Interference is Everywhere now that wireless technology is so pervasive..
That interference might not affect throughput, but it introduces Jitter..
Now, whether or not your Gaming-Skillz is high enough such that you'll blow past these things anyway doesn't change the fact that wireless interference lowers consistency..
Post by: smknjoe on Wed, 27 May 2015, 17:30:40
http://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/io/universal-serial-bus/usb3-frequency-interference-paper.html
There are other research papers and articles out there, but this was at the top of the search results.
Post by: C5Allroad on Wed, 27 May 2015, 17:31:13
Conveniently I live 5 minutes from a home depot...ROFL yeah lemme just hand over the plans to my lair to some guy on the Internet. That'll end well.
Don't forget to include directions to nearest hardware store for duct tape, shovel, heavy duty trashbags, hacksaw, etc.
Also, screw the wireless. Apparently, we have a giant crawl space under us. They closed it off so the cat doesn't play down there. I'll just drill a hole on the floor and crawl down there. Or get the cat to do it. Nasty **** down there.
And then route up the existing hole in my room for the DSL cable.
My room doesn't have a hole though.. Not sure I want to do that yet.
Post by: tp4tissue on Wed, 27 May 2015, 17:36:12
Conveniently I live 5 minutes from a home depot...ROFL yeah lemme just hand over the plans to my lair to some guy on the Internet. That'll end well.
Don't forget to include directions to nearest hardware store for duct tape, shovel, heavy duty trashbags, hacksaw, etc.
Also, screw the wireless. Apparently, we have a giant crawl space under us. They closed it off so the cat doesn't play down there. I'll just drill a hole on the floor and crawl down there. Or get the cat to do it. Nasty **** down there.
And then route up the existing hole in my room for the DSL cable.
My room doesn't have a hole though.. Not sure I want to do that yet.
(http://www.cute-factor.com/images/smilies/onion/088.gif)
Post by: C5Allroad on Wed, 27 May 2015, 17:41:38
Best wireless usb cards?
Also, any way to tell for sure if this is a 5ghz card? It's an crapware x51...
(http://puu.sh/i2YXA/dc8754791b.png)
Post by: smknjoe on Wed, 27 May 2015, 17:47:55
Post by: C5Allroad on Wed, 27 May 2015, 17:49:51
5GHz will be either 802.11a or ac. Google the part # to be sure though.And where do I find the part number?
Post by: tp4tissue on Wed, 27 May 2015, 17:55:39
For AC, it's only faster than N if you're within 12-15 feet of the router..
Outside of that range AC and N perform equivalently..
U mean the alienware x51 desktop ?
dude, that HAS a wifi card.. You just pull out the one in there, and put in a new one..
Get the 6300N if you're gonna use ur N66u, or get an intel AC7260, if you get a NEW ac router.
Post by: smknjoe on Wed, 27 May 2015, 17:58:28
Here's one that is 5GHz: http://www.parts-people.com/index.php?action=item&id=11417&gclid=ci6396wc48ucfzehaqodrzca6g
Post by: C5Allroad on Wed, 27 May 2015, 17:59:09
If you MUST use wireless.. "bless ur cursed soul"
For AC, it's only faster than N if you're within 12-15 feet of the router..
Outside of that range AC and N perform equivalently..
U mean the alienware x51 desktop ?
Crapware**
Yeah. Got it when I was a freshman. All dat doe was saved up by ****ing *****es and getting money. Last I opened it up, there is no slot for a wireless card. And I think the antenna sits between my hard drive and cd drive which I'll be ripping out of it soon.
Post by: C5Allroad on Wed, 27 May 2015, 18:00:29
Probably in the BIOS or with Dell's service tag software, or just search for 5GHz hotspots. If you can see a 5GHz hot spot you have a 5GHz card.Since I'm a newb sorta at this networking stuff. I can just buy that... Pop it in, update firmware and I can download pr0n again?
Here's one that is 5GHz: http://www.parts-people.com/index.php?action=item&id=11417&gclid=ci6396wc48ucfzehaqodrzca6g
Post by: tp4tissue on Wed, 27 May 2015, 18:01:12
If you MUST use wireless.. "bless ur cursed soul"
For AC, it's only faster than N if you're within 12-15 feet of the router..
Outside of that range AC and N perform equivalently..
U mean the alienware x51 desktop ?
Crapware**
Yeah. Got it when I was a freshman. All dat doe was saved up by ****ing *****es and getting money. Last I opened it up, there is no slot for a wireless card. And I think the antenna sits between my hard drive and cd drive which I'll be ripping out of it soon.
Just pull that thing out, and put in the NEW ONE..
Intel 6300, needs 3 antennas to reach max throughput for N66u Router, it's a triple stream
Intel 7260, only has 2 streams, for Either N or AC.
But remember AC is total ****, unless it's from a BEASTY AC router.. like the R7000
(http://i.imgur.com/PO0JW8V.jpg)
Post by: C5Allroad on Wed, 27 May 2015, 18:03:12
No bios update needed?If you MUST use wireless.. "bless ur cursed soul"
For AC, it's only faster than N if you're within 12-15 feet of the router..
Outside of that range AC and N perform equivalently..
U mean the alienware x51 desktop ?
Crapware**
Yeah. Got it when I was a freshman. All dat doe was saved up by ****ing *****es and getting money. Last I opened it up, there is no slot for a wireless card. And I think the antenna sits between my hard drive and cd drive which I'll be ripping out of it soon.
Just pull that thing out, and put in the NEW ONE..
Intel 6300, needs 3 antennas to reach max throughput for N66u Router, it's a triple stream
Intel 7260, only has 2 streams, for Either N or AC.
But remember AC is total ****, unless it's from a BEASTY AC router.. like the R7000Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/PO0JW8V.jpg)
Post by: billnye on Wed, 27 May 2015, 18:03:26
I have one and I did a speedtest with straight ethernet and the power outlet thing.Always go wired if it's not too inconvenient.Mother said must be proper installation... Don't wanna drill just to have it reach the next room.
Oh, parents. I love having the freedom to run cables all over. ^-^
Have you explored the option of those crazy power outlet ethernet doodads?Show Image(http://www.cute-factor.com/images/smilies/onion/f5f49335.gif)
Noooooooooooooooooooooo
Trust me, they suck ass.. I already tried a bunch of different brands.. You'll get 10-15mbps AT BEST .. doesn't matter if it's rated for 500mbps
You don't get anything close to that.
I got the exact same speed (30mbps) on each one. It's a lot more convenient to just have the power outlet than run crazy cords all over my house :))
Post by: tp4tissue on Wed, 27 May 2015, 18:07:50
No bios update needed?If you MUST use wireless.. "bless ur cursed soul"
For AC, it's only faster than N if you're within 12-15 feet of the router..
Outside of that range AC and N perform equivalently..
U mean the alienware x51 desktop ?
Crapware**
Yeah. Got it when I was a freshman. All dat doe was saved up by ****ing *****es and getting money. Last I opened it up, there is no slot for a wireless card. And I think the antenna sits between my hard drive and cd drive which I'll be ripping out of it soon.
Just pull that thing out, and put in the NEW ONE..
Intel 6300, needs 3 antennas to reach max throughput for N66u Router, it's a triple stream
Intel 7260, only has 2 streams, for Either N or AC.
But remember AC is total ****, unless it's from a BEASTY AC router.. like the R7000Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/PO0JW8V.jpg)
I don't think the Alienware has a locked bios..
But you should update the bios regardless..
Buy on amazon just in case it doesn't work.. it's only ~$20 or something, and it's MUCH better than any USB thing u can plug in... restocking fee on ~$20 is like what $3
Post by: tp4tissue on Wed, 27 May 2015, 18:09:07
I have one and I did a speedtest with straight ethernet and the power outlet thing.Always go wired if it's not too inconvenient.Mother said must be proper installation... Don't wanna drill just to have it reach the next room.
Oh, parents. I love having the freedom to run cables all over. ^-^
Have you explored the option of those crazy power outlet ethernet doodads?Show Image(http://www.cute-factor.com/images/smilies/onion/f5f49335.gif)
Noooooooooooooooooooooo
Trust me, they suck ass.. I already tried a bunch of different brands.. You'll get 10-15mbps AT BEST .. doesn't matter if it's rated for 500mbps
You don't get anything close to that.
I got the exact same speed (30mbps) on each one. It's a lot more convenient to just have the power outlet than run crazy cords all over my house :))
Again.. they work, but think about what's happening.. It has to FILTER out the other currents running in that wire..
Latency + Jitter..
And if the place you're trying to get to happens to be Across a breaker, Cut that 30mbps in half.
Post by: C5Allroad on Wed, 27 May 2015, 18:09:40
Forgot PCs are all like Lego's.No bios update needed?If you MUST use wireless.. "bless ur cursed soul"
For AC, it's only faster than N if you're within 12-15 feet of the router..
Outside of that range AC and N perform equivalently..
U mean the alienware x51 desktop ?
Crapware**
Yeah. Got it when I was a freshman. All dat doe was saved up by ****ing *****es and getting money. Last I opened it up, there is no slot for a wireless card. And I think the antenna sits between my hard drive and cd drive which I'll be ripping out of it soon.
Just pull that thing out, and put in the NEW ONE..
Intel 6300, needs 3 antennas to reach max throughput for N66u Router, it's a triple stream
Intel 7260, only has 2 streams, for Either N or AC.
But remember AC is total ****, unless it's from a BEASTY AC router.. like the R7000Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/PO0JW8V.jpg)
I don't think the Alienware has a locked bios..
But you should update the bios regardless..
Buy on amazon just in case it doesn't work.. it's only ~$20 or something, and it's MUCH better than any USB thing u can plug in... restocking fee on ~$20 is like what $3
But.... What in the hell are those two wires leaving the card in that picture. Never been good with tiny wires
Post by: tp4tissue on Wed, 27 May 2015, 18:11:14
Forgot PCs are all like Lego's.No bios update needed?If you MUST use wireless.. "bless ur cursed soul"
For AC, it's only faster than N if you're within 12-15 feet of the router..
Outside of that range AC and N perform equivalently..
U mean the alienware x51 desktop ?
Crapware**
Yeah. Got it when I was a freshman. All dat doe was saved up by ****ing *****es and getting money. Last I opened it up, there is no slot for a wireless card. And I think the antenna sits between my hard drive and cd drive which I'll be ripping out of it soon.
Just pull that thing out, and put in the NEW ONE..
Intel 6300, needs 3 antennas to reach max throughput for N66u Router, it's a triple stream
Intel 7260, only has 2 streams, for Either N or AC.
But remember AC is total ****, unless it's from a BEASTY AC router.. like the R7000Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/PO0JW8V.jpg)
I don't think the Alienware has a locked bios..
But you should update the bios regardless..
Buy on amazon just in case it doesn't work.. it's only ~$20 or something, and it's MUCH better than any USB thing u can plug in... restocking fee on ~$20 is like what $3
But.... What in the hell are those two wires leaving the card in that picture. Never been good with tiny wires
Those are the antenna, they pop off and connect to the NEW wireless card you put in.
The ends are connected like a 9v battery it's a little button cap..
Post by: tp4tissue on Wed, 27 May 2015, 18:12:52
Post by: tp4tissue on Wed, 27 May 2015, 18:14:50
(http://i451.photobucket.com/albums/qq232/Filesaver1/2011-12-01_1038.png)
Post by: C5Allroad on Wed, 27 May 2015, 18:14:58
And always remember, , If you break a computer.. and haz parents.. It's the perfect excuse to get A NEW COMPUTER...Lol... My moolah that I made messes with oil at the garage will be emptied instead of GH.
Also, digging around shows the 1502 does 2.4.
Post by: tp4tissue on Wed, 27 May 2015, 18:18:20
And always remember, , If you break a computer.. and haz parents.. It's the perfect excuse to get A NEW COMPUTER...Lol... My moolah that I made messes with oil at the garage will be emptied instead of GH.
English is not my first language, I have interpreted that sentence as thus.
-The money you earned working at a garage rubbing oil all over yourself will be siphoned to pay for your replacement Geekhack experience Capable computer?--
what???
Post by: C5Allroad on Wed, 27 May 2015, 18:21:01
Effectively. Yes. The oil draining from the cavalier was in fact, all over me.And always remember, , If you break a computer.. and haz parents.. It's the perfect excuse to get A NEW COMPUTER...Lol... My moolah that I made messes with oil at the garage will be emptied instead of GH.
English is not my first language, I have interpreted that sentence as thus.
-The money you earned working at a garage rubbing oil all over yourself will be siphoned to pay for your replacement Geekhack experience Capable computer?--
what???
But now that I look, it's a 2.4ghz card
Post by: tp4tissue on Wed, 27 May 2015, 18:21:11
Post by: tp4tissue on Wed, 27 May 2015, 18:22:47
Effectively. Yes. The oil draining from the cavalier was in fact, all over me.And always remember, , If you break a computer.. and haz parents.. It's the perfect excuse to get A NEW COMPUTER...Lol... My moolah that I made messes with oil at the garage will be emptied instead of GH.
English is not my first language, I have interpreted that sentence as thus.
-The money you earned working at a garage rubbing oil all over yourself will be siphoned to pay for your replacement Geekhack experience Capable computer?--
what???
But now that I look, it's a 2.4ghz card
Yea, if you're stuck with wireless, 5ghz is better because there's less interference..
UNLESS you live within 25 feet within OTHER people with 5ghz..
2.4ghz , you get interference even 60feet out.
Post by: C5Allroad on Wed, 27 May 2015, 18:24:47
Effectively. Yes. The oil draining from the cavalier was in fact, all over me.And always remember, , If you break a computer.. and haz parents.. It's the perfect excuse to get A NEW COMPUTER...Lol... My moolah that I made messes with oil at the garage will be emptied instead of GH.
English is not my first language, I have interpreted that sentence as thus.
-The money you earned working at a garage rubbing oil all over yourself will be siphoned to pay for your replacement Geekhack experience Capable computer?--
what???
But now that I look, it's a 2.4ghz card
Yea, if you're stuck with wireless, 5ghz is better because there's less interference..
UNLESS you live within 25 feet within OTHER people with 5ghz..
2.4ghz , you get interference even 60feet out.
Well, our old one is 2.4, neighboring people use a 2.4. Across the lawn, don't think they have 5ghz(hope not)
Both 1502 and 1506 are crummy.. it even says so on the x51 wiki.. hahahahahaThere's an x51 wiki?
Wait... Can I grab the network card off of a m18x? The killer thing?
Post by: tp4tissue on Wed, 27 May 2015, 18:30:56
Effectively. Yes. The oil draining from the cavalier was in fact, all over me.And always remember, , If you break a computer.. and haz parents.. It's the perfect excuse to get A NEW COMPUTER...Lol... My moolah that I made messes with oil at the garage will be emptied instead of GH.
English is not my first language, I have interpreted that sentence as thus.
-The money you earned working at a garage rubbing oil all over yourself will be siphoned to pay for your replacement Geekhack experience Capable computer?--
what???
But now that I look, it's a 2.4ghz card
Yea, if you're stuck with wireless, 5ghz is better because there's less interference..
UNLESS you live within 25 feet within OTHER people with 5ghz..
2.4ghz , you get interference even 60feet out.
Well, our old one is 2.4, neighboring people use a 2.4. Across the lawn, don't think they have 5ghz(hope not)Both 1502 and 1506 are crummy.. it even says so on the x51 wiki.. hahahahahaThere's an x51 wiki?
Wait... Can I grab the network card off of a m18x? The killer thing?
if it fits, yes..
it should be the same size, but I'm not sure..
Post by: smknjoe on Wed, 27 May 2015, 18:31:52
Post by: tp4tissue on Wed, 27 May 2015, 18:32:35
The intel cards are much more stable and consistent performers..
I had the killer N in one of my older lenovos, and it had some trouble with various routers on campus,
whereas, my Intel 6300 was a slut and slept fine with everybody.
Post by: C5Allroad on Wed, 27 May 2015, 18:33:20
If I were to buy the 6300, I can just slot it in with no new antennas?
Post by: tp4tissue on Wed, 27 May 2015, 18:37:27
I would need new antennas though, right? Or am I wrong lol
If I were to buy the 6300, I can just slot it in with no new antennas?
It's the same antennas..
If you get 6300, you will only get 2 streams with the 2 antennas that's already in the alienware.
You would need 1 more antenna..
But
If you get the 7260 ac, you can just use the 2 antennas that are already installed..
Post by: C5Allroad on Wed, 27 May 2015, 18:38:14
So where do I get antennas?I would need new antennas though, right? Or am I wrong lol
If I were to buy the 6300, I can just slot it in with no new antennas?
It's the same antennas..
If you get 6300, you will only get 2 streams with the 2 antennas that's already in the alienware.
You would need 1 more antenna..
But
If you get the 7260 ac, you can just use the 2 antennas that are already installed..
Maybe mom won't notice her laptop isn't as quick if I swap lol
Post by: tp4tissue on Wed, 27 May 2015, 18:40:42
So where do I get antennas?I would need new antennas though, right? Or am I wrong lol
If I were to buy the 6300, I can just slot it in with no new antennas?
It's the same antennas..
If you get 6300, you will only get 2 streams with the 2 antennas that's already in the alienware.
You would need 1 more antenna..
But
If you get the 7260 ac, you can just use the 2 antennas that are already installed..
Maybe mom won't notice her laptop isn't as quick if I swap lol
Um... LOL hahahaha
the Laptop MIGHT have a locked bios.. it's more likely to have a locked bios than the desktop is.
but if they're both alienware, i guess maybe it'll work just fine, since the alienware would recognize the dell brand cards..
IDK man, you just gotta try it in this case..
You can't steal an antenna from the laptop though, it's wired up through the screen and behind the bezel.
that's an hour to get it out, you might as well just pay the $2 to buy a new one.
Also there are people selling FAKE 2.4ghz antennas as 5ghz antennas..
THere's no way to tell on Amazon..
You jsut have to buy it and test it.
Post by: C5Allroad on Wed, 27 May 2015, 18:43:06
So where do I get antennas?I would need new antennas though, right? Or am I wrong lol
If I were to buy the 6300, I can just slot it in with no new antennas?
It's the same antennas..
If you get 6300, you will only get 2 streams with the 2 antennas that's already in the alienware.
You would need 1 more antenna..
But
If you get the 7260 ac, you can just use the 2 antennas that are already installed..
Maybe mom won't notice her laptop isn't as quick if I swap lol
Um... LOL hahahaha
the Laptop MIGHT have a locked bios.. it's more likely to have a locked bios than the desktop is.
but if they're both alienware, i guess maybe it'll work just fine, since the alienware would recognize the dell brand cards..
IDK man, you just gotta try it in this case..
You can't steal an antenna from the laptop though, it's wired up through the screen and behind the bezel.
that's an hour to get it out, you might as well just pay the $2 to buy a new one.
Also there are people selling FAKE 2.4ghz antennas as 5ghz antennas..
THere's no way to tell on Amazon..
You jsut have to buy it and test it.
They're both dell lol
I'm just confused on how the hell to route it and mount it. Do I route those cool antennas like on my Asus router? And drill some holes?
So this http://www.amazon.com/Super-Power-Supply%C2%AE-TL-WR1043ND-WZR-HP-G450H/dp/B00DTXGT1E/ref=sr_1_10?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1432770119&sr=1-10&keywords=5ghz+antenna
and http://www.amazon.com/Intel-Centrino-Ultimate-n-633anhmw-802-11a/dp/B00HRLRJUO/ref=sr_1_1?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1432770247&sr=1-1&keywords=intel+6300
theoretically will work... Right?
Post by: tp4tissue on Wed, 27 May 2015, 18:47:39
to connect between the wifi card and the external antenna..
Never mind.. it doesn't come with external antenna.
So basically, you just gotta buy the pigtail- interconnect, the antenna and drill 1 hole
But here ,, the confounding variable is, now you have to test both the antenna, AND the pigtail connector for 5ghz operation..
Because , the sellers are sleezy.. and may try to pass off 2.4ghz parts as 5ghz..
Because they DO WORK, despite having a dramatically reduced performance.
Post by: C5Allroad on Wed, 27 May 2015, 18:54:36
If you get the intel 6300, and need a third antenna, you also need http://www.amazon.com/U-FL-RP-SMA-Pigtail-Antenna-Cable/dp/B005UWD0EG/ref=pd_bxgy_147_img_y
to connect between the wifi card and the external antenna..The x51 has 2 external antennas right?
Never mind.. it doesn't come with external antenna.
So basically, you just gotta buy the pigtail- interconnect, the antenna and drill 1 hole
But here ,, the confounding variable is, now you have to test both the antenna, AND the pigtail connector for 5ghz operation..
Because , the sellers are sleezy.. and may try to pass off 2.4ghz parts as 5ghz..
Because they DO WORK, despite having a dramatically reduced performance.
Sweet, thanks lol...
Although, after all this... I'm weighing my options... Holes, or card.. Tanks bb(http://www.cute-factor.com/images/smilies/onion/6f428754.gif)
Post by: tp4tissue on Wed, 27 May 2015, 18:59:10
Wireless, I'd stick with the intel 6300 + antennas + interconnect, so I don't need to buy a new router.
Post by: C5Allroad on Wed, 27 May 2015, 18:59:56
IMHO, drilling holes in your house is most worth it... for bulletproof internet...Well, off to home depot to buy some fancy 4ft drill bit.
Wireless, I'd stick with the intel 6300 + antennas + interconnect, so I don't need to buy a new router.
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Wed, 27 May 2015, 20:42:28
IMHO, drilling holes in your house is most worth it... for bulletproof internet...Well, off to home depot to buy some fancy 4ft drill bit.
Wireless, I'd stick with the intel 6300 + antennas + interconnect, so I don't need to buy a new router.
Why do you need a 4ft drill bit?
Post by: C5Allroad on Wed, 27 May 2015, 20:43:29
Drill through the floor, and route it under the house lol. Not sure about rodents though.IMHO, drilling holes in your house is most worth it... for bulletproof internet...Well, off to home depot to buy some fancy 4ft drill bit.
Wireless, I'd stick with the intel 6300 + antennas + interconnect, so I don't need to buy a new router.
Why do you need a 4ft drill bit?
Post by: SpAmRaY on Wed, 27 May 2015, 20:44:25
Rodents? The hole should only be big enough for the wire to fit through.Drill through the floor, and route it under the house lol. Not sure about rodents though.IMHO, drilling holes in your house is most worth it... for bulletproof internet...Well, off to home depot to buy some fancy 4ft drill bit.
Wireless, I'd stick with the intel 6300 + antennas + interconnect, so I don't need to buy a new router.
Why do you need a 4ft drill bit?
Post by: C5Allroad on Wed, 27 May 2015, 20:45:29
Right but under the house, there are two huge doors we can open to crawl under. But I wonder if rodents will get hungryRodents? The hole should only be big enough for the wire to fit through.Drill through the floor, and route it under the house lol. Not sure about rodents though.IMHO, drilling holes in your house is most worth it... for bulletproof internet...Well, off to home depot to buy some fancy 4ft drill bit.
Wireless, I'd stick with the intel 6300 + antennas + interconnect, so I don't need to buy a new router.
Why do you need a 4ft drill bit?
Post by: SpAmRaY on Wed, 27 May 2015, 20:46:34
Ah it'll only tickle if they're small, just don't let them smell your fear.Right but under the house, there are two huge doors we can open to crawl under. But I wonder if rodents will get hungryRodents? The hole should only be big enough for the wire to fit through.Drill through the floor, and route it under the house lol. Not sure about rodents though.IMHO, drilling holes in your house is most worth it... for bulletproof internet...Well, off to home depot to buy some fancy 4ft drill bit.
Wireless, I'd stick with the intel 6300 + antennas + interconnect, so I don't need to buy a new router.
Why do you need a 4ft drill bit?
Post by: C5Allroad on Wed, 27 May 2015, 20:47:17
How do I make sure I don't smell like fear?Ah it'll only tickle if they're small, just don't let them smell your fear.Right but under the house, there are two huge doors we can open to crawl under. But I wonder if rodents will get hungryRodents? The hole should only be big enough for the wire to fit through.Drill through the floor, and route it under the house lol. Not sure about rodents though.IMHO, drilling holes in your house is most worth it... for bulletproof internet...Well, off to home depot to buy some fancy 4ft drill bit.
Wireless, I'd stick with the intel 6300 + antennas + interconnect, so I don't need to buy a new router.
Why do you need a 4ft drill bit?
Post by: tp4tissue on Wed, 27 May 2015, 20:56:03
How do I make sure I don't smell like fear?Ah it'll only tickle if they're small, just don't let them smell your fear.Right but under the house, there are two huge doors we can open to crawl under. But I wonder if rodents will get hungryRodents? The hole should only be big enough for the wire to fit through.Drill through the floor, and route it under the house lol. Not sure about rodents though.IMHO, drilling holes in your house is most worth it... for bulletproof internet...Well, off to home depot to buy some fancy 4ft drill bit.
Wireless, I'd stick with the intel 6300 + antennas + interconnect, so I don't need to buy a new router.
Why do you need a 4ft drill bit?
Drink this Everyday for a month...
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Post by: C5Allroad on Wed, 27 May 2015, 21:01:00
But, how in the living hell do I get rid of cmd saying gateway.2wire? Done with att lol
Post by: tp4tissue on Wed, 27 May 2015, 21:02:28
Energy drinks aren't my thing...
But, how in the living hell do I get rid of cmd saying gateway.2wire? Done with att lol
Ur gonna need that Nergy to fight off the mole people living under your house.
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Wed, 27 May 2015, 21:04:29
How do I make sure I don't smell like fear?
Drink this Everyday for a month...Show Image(http://revimgs.bevnet.com/media/sobenofear/bloodshot.jpg)
LOL that's amazing. :))
You have very thick floors, HA. :O I'm not at all familiar with the design of homes without basements (except for cabins), so pardon my ignorance. But 4ft seems way more than you would ever need... O.o
Post by: C5Allroad on Wed, 27 May 2015, 21:06:22
How do I make sure I don't smell like fear?
Drink this Everyday for a month...Show Image(http://revimgs.bevnet.com/media/sobenofear/bloodshot.jpg)
LOL that's amazing. :))
You have very thick floors, HA. :O I'm not at all familiar with the design of homes without basements (except for cabins), so pardon my ignorance. But 4ft seems way more than you would ever need... O.o
Our homes are elevated lol. We can get away with 2ft probably. Our house is I think 3ft up? Something like. 3 steps to the main level, and then an extra step so like 3-4th up Lol
Post by: SpAmRaY on Wed, 27 May 2015, 21:11:46
Yeah 12-18 inches is usually more reasonable.How do I make sure I don't smell like fear?
Drink this Everyday for a month...Show Image(http://revimgs.bevnet.com/media/sobenofear/bloodshot.jpg)
LOL that's amazing. :))
You have very thick floors, HA. :O I'm not at all familiar with the design of homes without basements (except for cabins), so pardon my ignorance. But 4ft seems way more than you would ever need... O.o
Post by: C5Allroad on Wed, 27 May 2015, 21:13:35
Measured out to about 40ft needed for the cable. All kinds of excited. Feels like I still have att.Yeah 12-18 inches is more reasonable.How do I make sure I don't smell like fear?
Drink this Everyday for a month...Show Image(http://revimgs.bevnet.com/media/sobenofear/bloodshot.jpg)
LOL that's amazing. :))
You have very thick floors, HA. :O I'm not at all familiar with the design of homes without basements (except for cabins), so pardon my ignorance. But 4ft seems way more than you would ever need... O.o
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Wed, 27 May 2015, 21:15:12
How do I make sure I don't smell like fear?
Drink this Everyday for a month...Show Image(http://revimgs.bevnet.com/media/sobenofear/bloodshot.jpg)
LOL that's amazing. :))
You have very thick floors, HA. :O I'm not at all familiar with the design of homes without basements (except for cabins), so pardon my ignorance. But 4ft seems way more than you would ever need... O.o
Our homes are elevated lol. We can get away with 2ft probably. Our house is I think 3ft up? Something like. 3 steps to the main level, and then an extra step so like 3-4th up Lol
And you have to drill through that entire thickness with a single bit? If you have a crawl space below the house, shouldn't you only have to go through the thickness of the floor (12-18 inches, as Ray said) and then you'll be in the clear to reach it from below?
Post by: smknjoe on Wed, 27 May 2015, 21:16:06
...flooring material (carpet, wood, etc.), sub-floor which is plywood 3/4", and that's about it for most non-slab houses in the South. You have floor joists for structural support, but you don't need to drill through those.
Post by: C5Allroad on Wed, 27 May 2015, 21:17:38
No clue why he wants 4ft. Shouldn't be more than a foot.How do I make sure I don't smell like fear?
Drink this Everyday for a month...Show Image(http://revimgs.bevnet.com/media/sobenofear/bloodshot.jpg)
LOL that's amazing. :))
You have very thick floors, HA. :O I'm not at all familiar with the design of homes without basements (except for cabins), so pardon my ignorance. But 4ft seems way more than you would ever need... O.o
Our homes are elevated lol. We can get away with 2ft probably. Our house is I think 3ft up? Something like. 3 steps to the main level, and then an extra step so like 3-4th up Lol
And you have to drill through that entire thickness with a single bit? If you have a crawl space below the house, shouldn't you only have to go through the thickness of the floor (12-18 inches, as Ray said) and then you'll be in the clear to reach it from below?
Post by: C5Allroad on Wed, 27 May 2015, 21:22:52
It's been a while since I've been in cmd... This is normal. Right? Also... On comcast... Is the username the network name? Can't login...
Post by: tp4tissue on Wed, 27 May 2015, 21:29:44
Post by: C5Allroad on Wed, 27 May 2015, 21:32:12
is this cable, fiber ? what is this.Cable. But me trying to connect to the router to change settings isn't letting me...
Why can't I just log in with network name and pass? Ugh...
Post by: SpAmRaY on Wed, 27 May 2015, 21:41:33
Post by: C5Allroad on Wed, 27 May 2015, 21:43:08
What are you trying to change? Also many consumer routers don't always allow access via command line/Telnet unless you configure it from a web GUI first.Well, I had a server set up for assetto corsa. All the ports were set. But now I kinda have to do it again. Oh well.
Post by: Oobly on Thu, 28 May 2015, 10:05:59
Post by: tp4tissue on Thu, 28 May 2015, 10:13:42
Move your PC to the router room and hook it up with wire. Or move the router to your room. Wireless sucks.
But then he can't play video games when he's suppose to be doing his homework.
Post by: C5Allroad on Thu, 28 May 2015, 10:23:49
Exactly. That and my room has a window that serves for nothing. It could be noon and I wouldn't even know.Move your PC to the router room and hook it up with wire. Or move the router to your room. Wireless sucks.
But then he can't play video games when he's suppose to be doing his homework.
Post by: tp4tissue on Thu, 28 May 2015, 10:25:53
Exactly. That and my room has a window that serves for nothing. It could be noon and I wouldn't even know.Move your PC to the router room and hook it up with wire. Or move the router to your room. Wireless sucks.
But then he can't play video games when he's suppose to be doing his homework.
You'll know... noon is when Joey messages you for m0re dota..
Post by: C5Allroad on Thu, 28 May 2015, 10:26:40
I know its noon when I wake up at noon. Then it's time for breakfastExactly. That and my room has a window that serves for nothing. It could be noon and I wouldn't even know.Move your PC to the router room and hook it up with wire. Or move the router to your room. Wireless sucks.
But then he can't play video games when he's suppose to be doing his homework.
You'll know... noon is when Joey messages you for m0re dota..
Post by: tp4tissue on Thu, 28 May 2015, 10:34:13
Post by: C5Allroad on Thu, 28 May 2015, 10:36:02
Oh god.. perhaps we all need an Intervention.. and get internet outside of our rooms.. hahahahaha...We have internet outside our rooms. Smart phones bruh
Post by: tp4tissue on Thu, 28 May 2015, 10:42:33
Oh god.. perhaps we all need an Intervention.. and get internet outside of our rooms.. hahahahaha...We have internet outside our rooms. Smart phones bruh
Game over..
Post by: C5Allroad on Thu, 28 May 2015, 10:44:57
English teacher doesn't see phone.Oh god.. perhaps we all need an Intervention.. and get internet outside of our rooms.. hahahahaha...We have internet outside our rooms. Smart phones bruh
Game over..
Only difference is there's light around me.