Did you really just type you're going to tell his parents?
Gold Jerry, gold!
I hope his parents and employer are different people.
I hope his parents and employer are different people.
I hope his lover and his mother are different people
I hope his parents and employer are different people.
I hope his lover and his mother are different people
Unless you're into that sort of thing.
ಠ_ಠ
So wait, why did you lend a semi-stranger from the internet who lives on a different continent $800?
This post is suspiciously light on transaction details. Do you have some kind of signed document related to this loan?
Disgonbegud.gif
Yeah, there's a reason why you don't think of money given to friends or family as loans, but as gifts. That **** will tear apart any kind of relationship faster than a demik in a taco truck.
Yeah, there's a reason why you don't think of money given to friends or family as loans, but as gifts. That **** will tear apart any kind of relationship faster than a demik in a taco truck.
How many times I gotta tell you
1) I don't like tacos
2) it's called a roach coach
People have all kinds of issues that make loans problematic even when you’re best buddies and neighbors and you have some chance of figuring out what happened when they can’t pay you back. But for someone several thousand miles away who you only know through the internet, there are a million things which could go wrong in ways that would be difficult to verify or potentially even understand.
lol **** this place is stupid. This is all berserkfan's fault, sure.
People have all kinds of issues that make loans problematic even when you’re best buddies and neighbors and you have some chance of figuring out what happened when they can’t pay you back. But for someone several thousand miles away who you only know through the internet, there are a million things which could go wrong in ways that would be difficult to verify or potentially even understand.
You're right.. It may not have been the most prudent plan on Berserk's part.
But he did what he did out of friendship.. and is being taken advantaged of in the process..
lol **** this place is stupid. This is all berserkfan's fault, sure.
How about me tp
Pretty sure you're reading what you want if your take-away so far is that.
How about me tp
I'd buy a whole box of taco shells from ya, no problem..
You're right.. It may not have been the most prudent plan on Berserk's part.
But he did what he did out of friendship.. and is being taken advantaged of in the process..
6months and, as of the moment, no mention of repayment plan makes the being taken advantage of thing hard to defend.
How about me tp
I'd buy a whole box of taco shells from ya, no problem..
and me?
How about me tp
I'd buy a whole box of taco shells from ya, no problem..
You're right.. It may not have been the most prudent plan on Berserk's part.
But he did what he did out of friendship.. and is being taken advantaged of in the process..
6months and, as of the moment, no mention of repayment plan makes the being taken advantage of thing hard to defend.
Well, part of the money Berserk transferred to DV is for services and goods. Those services and goods were unfulfilled and undelivered.
Some other parts of the money was a, Pay-me-back-when-you-can type ordeal..
Regardless, The totality has amounted to quite a sum that shouldn't have been ignored for so long.
I recall Berserk saying something about this way way back, and he didn't want to escalate things.. Because we've all considered DV an upstanding member.
But only recently it seems Berserk has reached the last of his patience.
How about me tp
I'd buy a whole box of taco shells from ya, no problem..
You hear that bee? Date night!
Bueller: No one said that.
It’s just, we only have one side of the story for a clearly very angry dude who hasn’t provided very much concrete information. There’s no way for anyone except dorkvader to know what happened, and starting a witch hunt isn’t too helpful as a conflict resolution strategy.
As I said, there are any number of things that could have gone wrong here, and it’s pretty hard to judge without knowing more of the story.
I’m sure other geekhackers would be willing to help try to resolve things, but this thread is framed as a fight. However accurate the original post, its primary effect is to smear someone’s reputation, not really to encourage a fix.
(This happens on the internet a lot, because it’s much easier to get angry when you’re just by yourself sitting in front of a screen; face to face discussions are in my experience much more productive. But when the dispute is which sucks more, Cherry MX blue or Topre, then the stakes are pretty low, so it’s not really too big a deal.)
Well, part of the money Berserk transferred to DV is for services and goods. Those services and goods were unfulfilled and undelivered.
Some other parts of the money was a, Pay-me-back-when-you-can type ordeal..
Regardless, The totality has amounted to quite a sum that shouldn't have been ignored for so long.
I recall Berserk saying something about this way way back, and he didn't want to escalate things.. Because we've all considered DV an upstanding member.
But only recently it seems Berserk has reached the last of his patience.
Yeah, I dunno man. I'm all for a good pitchforking, but I want to make sure I'm not just on the bandwagon of "**** that guy" before I sharpen the tines. That's all I'm really seeing from everyone so far, too.
You're like the son we will probably make on mistakeHow about me tp
I'd buy a whole box of taco shells from ya, no problem..
You hear that bee? Date night!
With Tp4 as Wheel-III , ya'll know it's gonna be great.. i'mma fotobomb every single pictar..
Look: having a friend refuse to pay back a loan sucks. Hopefully we can figure out some way of solving the problem so that everyone ends up feeling good about it.
You're like the son we will probably make on mistakeHow about me tp
I'd buy a whole box of taco shells from ya, no problem..
You hear that bee? Date night!
With Tp4 as Wheel-III , ya'll know it's gonna be great.. i'mma fotobomb every single pictar..
I agree the language of the OP is a bit salted... but the facts are there..
Had DV even been on lately? I don't see him around anymore
I agree the language of the OP is a bit salted... but the facts are there..
If it's been as long as berserk says then i'm surprised it's not a lot more vitriolic. **** happens, I've had people run into problems meeting their commitments in the past and been fine with it so long as they're man enough to talk to me about it. Dodge my messages and treat me like an ******* and it's going to go a lot differently.
If it's mostly for projects, isn't DV like notoriously slow with that? Like I know cptbadass waited over a year to get a kitty paw from him and he wasn't the only one that had a long wait like that.
Did DV send things to someone else to get done but not refund? Does he still owe services?
Really though, when you get down to it, why should either of us actually care? It's not great that berzerk is out the money, but you, me and everyone else pontificating to the air won't affect anything, you know?
Really though, when you get down to it, why should either of us actually care? It's not great that berzerk is out the money, but you, me and everyone else pontificating to the air won't affect anything, you know?
bcuz community trust?
i'm with you on the pontificating.
DTA sth, DTA
Really though, when you get down to it, why should either of us actually care? It's not great that berzerk is out the money, but you, me and everyone else pontificating to the air won't affect anything, you know?
DTA sth, DTA
the integrity of Geekhack..
Really though, when you get down to it, why should either of us actually care? It's not great that berzerk is out the money, but you, me and everyone else pontificating to the air won't affect anything, you know?
bcuz community trust?
i'm with you on the pontificating.
Ok, I can dig that and I think I misworded slightly. I care about resolution. Not sure so much about the middle part where lines are drawn, pitchforks are sharpened and torches lit.
Really though, when you get down to it, why should either of us actually care? It's not great that berzerk is out the money, but you, me and everyone else pontificating to the air won't affect anything, you know?
bcuz community trust?
i'm with you on the pontificating.
Ok, I can dig that and I think I misworded slightly. I care about resolution. Not sure so much about the middle part where lines are drawn, pitchforks are sharpened and torches lit.
No need for violence.. Firm stance.. and an inquisitive posture..
DTA sth, DTA
i trust you in a particular waythe integrity of Geekhack..
hehe
DTA sth, DTA
i trust you in a particular waythe integrity of Geekhack..
hehe
Disclaimer.. Integrity of Geekhack TM is not enforced in threads started by/ about / pertaining to adult-journeys of Beemik, HoffBee, BeeHoffmik, MikHoffBee, HalvHoff, Halvmikbee, etc..
Really though, when you get down to it, why should either of us actually care? It's not great that berzerk is out the money, but you, me and everyone else pontificating to the air won't affect anything, you know?
bcuz community trust?
i'm with you on the pontificating.
Really though, when you get down to it, why should either of us actually care? It's not great that berzerk is out the money, but you, me and everyone else pontificating to the air won't affect anything, you know?
bcuz community trust?
i'm with you on the pontificating.
Also, he's a mod.
I care about Geekhack, I care about DV, I care about Berserk, and I care about all of Geekhack's members.. Except the newbies, they need another 1000 posts for me to care for them..
DTA sth, DTA
i trust you in a particular waythe integrity of Geekhack..
hehe
Disclaimer.. Integrity of Geekhack TM is not enforced in threads started by/ about / pertaining to adult-journeys of Beemik, HoffBee, BeeHoffmik, MikHoffBee, HalvHoff, Halvmikbee, etc..
I'm naming all my kids these names
im amazed by tp4's ability of not writing milkDTA sth, DTA
i trust you in a particular waythe integrity of Geekhack..
hehe
Disclaimer.. Integrity of Geekhack TM is not enforced in threads started by/ about / pertaining to adult-journeys of Beemik, HoffBee, BeeHoffmik, MikHoffBee, HalvHoff, Halvmikbee, etc..
I'm naming all my kids these names
Integrity of Geekhack threatened.
Integrity of Geekhack threatened.
This is what I hate to see.
We need to hear Dorkvader's side of the story. If he is vested with the responsibility of a moderator, he can't just sit in the shadows.
Unless the allegations are completely false, they need to be addressed, at least, if not answered or explained.
I can also vouch for berserkfan, guy was a pleasure to chat and deal with.
... I care about all of Geekhack's members.. Except the newbies, they need another 1000 posts for me to care for them..
Woooooooow. Are all senior members this rude? I'm taking my business to reddit.Dorky dork got some 'splaining to do
stfu, newbie. Get more posts before we care what you say or think.
Woooooooow. Are all senior members this rude? I'm taking my business to reddit.Dorky dork got some 'splaining to do
stfu, newbie. Get more posts before we care what you say or think.
Dorkvader
In the past 6 months you have ignored nearly all my PMs, or sidestepped them, until I started posting publicly.
I have a threepronged claim against you. Summed up as: $550; goods; and an additional $400.
I know you have some objection towards two of my points: the misused $400 donations and the only-partially-done proxying of goods. But there is a third prong, and you have never responded to my queries on the $550.
Now let me ask you again, Dorkvader. What about the $550 you owe me? Let me remind you, it is already a much reduced figure from over $1k even earlier. Partly to make repayment affordable for you, I moved $200 from the debt ledger to the donations ledger. So an original conditional donation of $200 became $400, and the cash debt was reduced. Then I let you tweak the sum down further, to arrive at $800. That was what you proposed months ago.
Knowing that $800 is still a large sum and that your money management skills are poor, I deliberately did not press the point for months. I wanted to give you time to sell stuff, get paychecks, whatever works to get the funds to pay me. As I made it clear in my PM after you proposed the $800 figure, I expect you to act like an honest and honorable man. So I expect you to act automatically and not because I have to keep pestering you.
But of the $800 you have only paid $250 and have evaded all questions, requests, and queries on this much-reduced debt arrears of $550 ever since. That has been the elephant in the room all along.
If you think you are going to get away with it, my patience has ended. That’s why this post is being made publicly, after again you refused to respond to my demand of $550 in my last PM.
The next step in my escalation will be to contact your parents and employer. Do you still want to tax my patience?
I’m not going to waste time in hot air quarrels with you in public. I did not want to start a storm on Geekhack. I have treated you with far more respect than you have ever earned. Because posting this on Geekhack will draw all kinds of unnecessary and often inflammatory comments from other people, I will only post here once. I will make no follow up post, and I will lock this thread after enough people have read it.
If I am not made good on my $550 by the end of this month (after your next paycheck), take it for granted that I will contact your parents and employer. That may not get my money back, but it will definitely put your character in the spotlight. And considering your history of evading responsibility, you will lose whatever little credibility remaining.
Why don't you provide the background story? What donations? What ledger?
... I care about all of Geekhack's members.. Except the newbies, they need another 1000 posts for me to care for them..
What the Hell, TP! Now you don't care cause I don't have 1,000 posts? :'(
This situation is messed up. I sincerely hope this gets sorted out without further drama. I'm feel bad for everyone involved.
I care about Geekhack, I care about DV, I care about Berserk, and I care about all of Geekhack's members.. Except the newbies, they need another 1000 posts for me to care for them..
what about me tp?
edit, smh double post
Both yourselves needn't worry.. You are on Tp4's do-not-kill list for when the Robo factions take over..
But if you lax on the Agar.io practices.. The line on such a list is thin..
You have been warned..Show Image(http://ic.pics.livejournal.com/ktmin13/44944963/34079/34079_300.png)
I've had many dealings with berserkfan from a financial standpoint selling and buying things and he's shown himself to be nothing by trustworthy. If he says it happened, I'm confident it did.
DTA sth, DTA
DTA sth, DTA
I think you mean "TNB".
Also, inb4 "Thank you for your input."
I don't know muchDefinitely agree. I just can't support the fact that OP lent DV even the smallest amount of money, knowing that it was a risk, then complained publicly. However, you can't assume that it's just to not receive your money back just because you made a post and whined about it. Money is money, ideally he should get it back.
But I know that you threatened to expose and shame him, and did this publicly
If you do stuff like these, you can never get your money back (there is a high probability that you did something like this before too, which might have triggered what you have now, you don't pay someone who threatens you (at least an honourable person shouldn't))
As a general life rule, you have to retain your standing with someone who owes you money, as most people are douches, and if you don't retain your standing (friendship etc.) you won't get your money back
So the logical thing to do is to not lend people money, or lend money to only extremely-trusted friends, or let go off the money you lent and treat it as an income if it returns
I don't know much
But I know that you threatened to expose and shame him, and did this publicly
If you do stuff like these, you can never get your money back (there is a high probability that you did something like this before too, which might have triggered what you have now, you don't pay someone who threatens you (at least an honourable person shouldn't))
As a general life rule, you have to retain your standing with someone who owes you money, as most people are douches, and if you don't retain your standing (friendship etc.) you won't get your money back
So the logical thing to do is to not lend people money, or lend money to only extremely-trusted friends, or let go off the money you lent and treat it as an income if it returns
when i've asked mods to resolve issues, i'll just give you the same answer they gave me.
buyer beware.
So whats its going to be, mods resolve the problem and open the flood gates?, or say too bad so sad, sorry one of our own took your money and ran.
Woooooooow. Are all senior members this rude? I'm taking my business to reddit.Please. :-*
when i've asked mods to resolve issues, i'll just give you the same answer they gave me.
buyer beware.
So whats its going to be, mods resolve the problem and open the flood gates?, or say too bad so sad, sorry one of our own took your money and ran.
I would like to say I'm really proud of our community for some of the stuff posted about how to pursue a resolution. Let's get this figured out.
I would like to say I'm really proud of our community for some of the stuff posted about how to pursue a resolution. Let's get this figured out.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/BtpQZ4d.jpg)
Obviously, berserkfan needs to quit spending his money on dorkvader, start spending it on a girlfriend, then send that girlfriend to knock on dorkvader's door.girl... friend? elaborate.
Obviously, berserkfan needs to quit spending his money on dorkvader, start spending it on a girlfriend, then send that girlfriend to knock on dorkvader's door.girl... friend? elaborate.
I would like to say I'm really proud of our community for some of the stuff posted about how to pursue a resolution. Let's get this figured out.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/BtpQZ4d.jpg)
there might be a correlation between amount of artisans + keyboards and how attractive you are. in other words, bunny gets ****.Obviously, berserkfan needs to quit spending his money on dorkvader, start spending it on a girlfriend, then send that girlfriend to knock on dorkvader's door.girl... friend? elaborate.
I was also recently made aware that many-many Geekhackers haz girlfriends..
OH Gawwd the Betrayal...
#Ronery4ever
there might be a correlation between amount of artisans + keyboards and how attractive you are. in other words, bunny gets ****.Obviously, berserkfan needs to quit spending his money on dorkvader, start spending it on a girlfriend, then send that girlfriend to knock on dorkvader's door.girl... friend? elaborate.
I was also recently made aware that many-many Geekhackers haz girlfriends..
OH Gawwd the Betrayal...
#Ronery4ever
rektwhen i've asked mods to resolve issues, i'll just give you the same answer they gave me.
buyer beware.
So whats its going to be, mods resolve the problem and open the flood gates?, or say too bad so sad, sorry one of our own took your money and ran.
Seriously dude, what's your beef?
Your many posts on this subject continue to baffle me. So I will ask you once again - what can the mod team do in the case of a deal gone bad? Would you like us to visit the member in question and rough 'em up? Force them to pay/ship their package? Ban them to ensure you never receive the item? I just don't get it. :confused:
However...
In this case, it's slightly different. (yay!)
The whole moderator aspect is something to consider, and is something we actually have control over. But that still doesn't explain your burning desire to slam the mod team for events entirely outside of our control, so my request still stands.
Morethere might be a correlation between amount of artisans + keyboards and how attractive you are. in other words, bunny gets ****.Obviously, berserkfan needs to quit spending his money on dorkvader, start spending it on a girlfriend, then send that girlfriend to knock on dorkvader's door.girl... friend? elaborate.
I was also recently made aware that many-many Geekhackers haz girlfriends..
OH Gawwd the Betrayal...
#Ronery4ever
And yet he has a lot of male groupies
honey... bees?Morethere might be a correlation between amount of artisans + keyboards and how attractive you are. in other words, bunny gets ****.Obviously, berserkfan needs to quit spending his money on dorkvader, start spending it on a girlfriend, then send that girlfriend to knock on dorkvader's door.girl... friend? elaborate.
I was also recently made aware that many-many Geekhackers haz girlfriends..
OH Gawwd the Betrayal...
#Ronery4ever
And yet he has a lot of male groupies
And damnik has all the honeys fighting to be his bae.
Mmmmm, I love the smell of dirty laundry.smells like broken friendships and empty wallets
Mmmmm, I love the smell of dirty laundry.Panty fetish? Wrong thread bruh
Mmmmm, I love the smell of dirty laundry.Panty fetish? Wrong thread bruh
Mmmmm, I love the smell of dirty laundry.Panty fetish? Wrong thread bruh
ya stfu guys, getting too sexual in here
rektwhen i've asked mods to resolve issues, i'll just give you the same answer they gave me.
buyer beware.
So whats its going to be, mods resolve the problem and open the flood gates?, or say too bad so sad, sorry one of our own took your money and ran.
Seriously dude, what's your beef?
Your many posts on this subject continue to baffle me. So I will ask you once again - what can the mod team do in the case of a deal gone bad? Would you like us to visit the member in question and rough 'em up? Force them to pay/ship their package? Ban them to ensure you never receive the item? I just don't get it. :confused:
However...
In this case, it's slightly different. (yay!)
The whole moderator aspect is something to consider, and is something we actually have control over. But that still doesn't explain your burning desire to slam the mod team for events entirely outside of our control, so my request still stands.
Obviously, berserkfan needs to quit spending his money on dorkvader, start spending it on a girlfriend, then send that girlfriend to knock on dorkvader's door.
I'm just pointing out the obvious nature of all this. Don't send people money over the internet with a promise for exchange for goods and services. Most people will have no problems, but there is always the risk for this kinda stuff to happen.
Aside from pulling moderator status, I don't feel like they(mods) should do anything else to sway this one way or another.(as your right, they can't ) This site is rampant with false deadlines, misleading info, etc. and people need to know about the dangers of it all. Nothing here is guaranteed; written, implied or otherwise. As a buyer/seller here, you have zero rights to a refund, exchange, replacement, etc.
I don't personally feel like that is explained well enough ( as probably most buyers/sellers have never read the sticky )
But i'm like everyone else here, an opinionated butthead on the internet, who plays the same game as every other buyer/seller here does. Give money and hope you get something in return.
I don't like the idea of going after one person in a personal dispute ( though I've voiced my aggression in group buys, considering there are many more people & money involved )
But i'm just a rando on the internet, take is as you see it. I've nothing against the mods, a community that's so willing to throw money around based on .jpg's and ideas can get a bit dangerous.
I'm just pointing out the obvious nature of all this. Don't send people money over the internet with a promise for exchange for goods and services. Most people will have no problems, but there is always the risk for this kinda stuff to happen.
Aside from pulling moderator status, I don't feel like they(mods) should do anything else to sway this one way or another.(as your right, they can't ) This site is rampant with false deadlines, misleading info, etc. and people need to know about the dangers of it all. Nothing here is guaranteed; written, implied or otherwise. As a buyer/seller here, you have zero rights to a refund, exchange, replacement, etc.
I don't personally feel like that is explained well enough ( as probably most buyers/sellers have never read the sticky )
But i'm like everyone else here, an opinionated butthead on the internet, who plays the same game as every other buyer/seller here does. Give money and hope you get something in return.
I don't like the idea of going after one person in a personal dispute ( though I've voiced my aggression in group buys, considering there are many more people & money involved )
But i'm just a rando on the internet, take is as you see it. I've nothing against the mods, a community that's so willing to throw money around based on .jpg's and ideas can get a bit dangerous.
/me is officially baffled
We've literally had entire conversations about this, and never once did this appear to be your viewpoint.
I'm just pointing out the obvious nature of all this. Don't send people money over the internet with a promise for exchange for goods and services. Most people will have no problems, but there is always the risk for this kinda stuff to happen.
Aside from pulling moderator status, I don't feel like they(mods) should do anything else to sway this one way or another.(as your right, they can't ) This site is rampant with false deadlines, misleading info, etc. and people need to know about the dangers of it all. Nothing here is guaranteed; written, implied or otherwise. As a buyer/seller here, you have zero rights to a refund, exchange, replacement, etc.
I don't personally feel like that is explained well enough ( as probably most buyers/sellers have never read the sticky )
But i'm like everyone else here, an opinionated butthead on the internet, who plays the same game as every other buyer/seller here does. Give money and hope you get something in return.
I don't like the idea of going after one person in a personal dispute ( though I've voiced my aggression in group buys, considering there are many more people & money involved )
But i'm just a rando on the internet, take is as you see it. I've nothing against the mods, a community that's so willing to throw money around based on .jpg's and ideas can get a bit dangerous.
/me is officially baffled
We've literally had entire conversations about this, and never once did this appear to be your viewpoint.
Not for nothing, but that's what it read to me. Just a neutral "the mods can't really do anything without now doing it for everything"
Obviously, berserkfan needs to quit spending his money on dorkvader, start spending it on a girlfriend, then send that girlfriend to knock on dorkvader's door.
Pretty sure that berserkfan is married with children.
Failing to see your point
No response from Dorkvader.
First moderator to BAN himself?
:))
Would that make him a Playboy... bunny?there might be a correlation between amount of artisans + keyboards and how attractive you are. in other words, bunny gets ****.Obviously, berserkfan needs to quit spending his money on dorkvader, start spending it on a girlfriend, then send that girlfriend to knock on dorkvader's door.girl... friend? elaborate.
I was also recently made aware that many-many Geekhackers haz girlfriends..
OH Gawwd the Betrayal...
#Ronery4ever
Would that make him a Playboy... bunny?there might be a correlation between amount of artisans + keyboards and how attractive you are. in other words, bunny gets ****.Obviously, berserkfan needs to quit spending his money on dorkvader, start spending it on a girlfriend, then send that girlfriend to knock on dorkvader's door.girl... friend? elaborate.
I was also recently made aware that many-many Geekhackers haz girlfriends..
OH Gawwd the Betrayal...
#Ronery4ever
Would that make him a Playboy... bunny?there might be a correlation between amount of artisans + keyboards and how attractive you are. in other words, bunny gets ****.Obviously, berserkfan needs to quit spending his money on dorkvader, start spending it on a girlfriend, then send that girlfriend to knock on dorkvader's door.girl... friend? elaborate.
I was also recently made aware that many-many Geekhackers haz girlfriends..
OH Gawwd the Betrayal...
#Ronery4ever
Dorkvader is online, lets see if anything comes of it.
I hope this doesn't get any worse. Sometimes drama is not fun...
I can also vouch for berserkfan, guy was a pleasure to chat and deal with.
+1
I've had many PM's through my entire time at geekhack with berserkfan including his sharing some of what has been posted about here.
Except the newbies, they need another 1000 posts for me to care for them..:'(
Except the newbies, they need another 1000 posts for me to care for them..:'(
I will say there is more to this than meets the eye.
I have previously done buisness with berserkfan(actually writing on his caps now :) )He told me at that time(7-8 months ago) that i should send my money to dorkvader instead as he was working on a project for him, so i did, i dont remember the details i can check my pms later. Ive spoken alot with berserkfan through my time at gh and think he is a standup guy and i dont missbelief what he is saying for a second.
PPL saying that you shouldnt trust a stranger with your money...Come on, have you never sent a fellow gher money for an item on the classifieds. Dorkvader needs to explain himself.
I myself was involved in a similar situation with a known gh member with around half of what dorkvader owes berserk and it was not pleasant. Hope he starts paying up..
Edit: Attached,Here is the money i sent to him. Note: I have never bought anything from dorkvader, this was on behalf of berserk
I will say there is more to this than meets the eye.
Why would he not post here then when he was online?
If it's mostly for projects, isn't DV like notoriously slow with that? Like I know cptbadass waited over a year to get a kitty paw from him and he wasn't the only one that had a long wait like that.
If it's mostly for projects, isn't DV like notoriously slow with that? Like I know cptbadass waited over a year to get a kitty paw from him and he wasn't the only one that had a long wait like that.
I'm really surprised all this is happening... I've always known Dorkvader to be an excellent guy. Honestly, I think he's just a perfectionist, and that's why he takes so much time with everything. If you've seen anything he's worked on, it's not just good, it's as good as it could possibly be. (CPTBadAss's cat's paw is a fine example.) I'd even go as far as to say that, when it comes to electronics, he's an artist.
Back at the end of February, I sent him some dough for a Model M he'd bolt-modded, and for a Model F AT he was going to convert to ANSI for me.
The Model M arrived a couple of weeks later, and it was (and is) fantastic. (It's the one he did in his pictorial here.)
I'm still waiting on the AT, but DV has regularly updated me on its progress. He's never done this particular mod and had to get some extra tools for it.
He's also has a full-time job now. He's not only doing repairs, but training other staff members and working directly with customers. From what I can tell (and just knowing how he is), he's putting in significantly more work than they actually require.
Consequently, he's had a very limited amount of time for keyboard stuff over the last few months. But he's always kept me up-to-date, in great detail, on what was going on. And considering the exceptional quality of his work—and how much I've enjoyed communicating with him—I don't mind the wait.
I don't know BerserkFan much, except that he's said some pretty funny things on the forum that've made me LOL.
I'm sure there's a logical explanation for all this, and I'm guessing it has to do with DV's insistence on doing everything ultra-well. You just can't rush things like that. Maybe DV doesn't think some of us would understand his attitude, and just think he was dragging his feet. (I know I'd understand, as that's how I approach my music and technical writing.)
And maybe he hasn't posted here because he's somewhat shy. I'd feel shy, too, if I thought that people were lurking somewhere, ready to pounce on me as soon as I appeared. And frankly, that's what it feels like in this topic.
Having said all that, I agree that it doesn't reflect well on GH in general to have accusations of dishonesty floating around about one of its moderators (presumably one of the site's most responsible people). So the quicker all this can be cleared up, the better for everyone.
I've participated in countless forums over the years, and computer BBSs before that. (If you even know what those are, you must be getting on like me!) BBSs had a big advantage because they were local. Inevitably, conflicts flared up on them; then there'd be a get-together somewhere in town, and as soon as they saw each other, the people who'd squabbled would realize they'd just had a misunderstanding—which is VERY easy to do in text. I'm sure that if we could all meet in person somehow, this would be quickly and amicably resolved.
I also have a proposal to make.
See, I have tons of modding projects, tons of things to learn (eg CAD) and will probably not have time to do them all in the next few years. I don’t see myself doing much buying ever again unless it is for rare Model Fs, parts necessary for modding, etc. Even things like switch moddable plates I'm going to get them made locally.
I still have various small things to sell. Mainly: sorted out keycaps from the crap bags, plus lots and lots of switches that I no longer want (tons of brown and black switches in particular). This means I will have lots of small buyers send me a few bucks here, $40 there.
I don’t need this money. It is discretionary money and would have been turned around to buy other things for fun eventually. Getting that money back into my Singapore bank account is also a PITA. I hate paypal and don’t want them to collect lots of little fees from me, and they will charge me four times (once for incoming payments 4.4% +$0.3, once for currency conversion, once for bank transfer basic 2.5%, and once for minimum fee for all transfers under $200 Singapore dollars) And I can’t gift from a Singapore account, so paypal will suck fees again if I should send anybody money. Long and short is, they know very well how to make money off other people, and I don’t want to give these scumbags the chance.
So I want to avoid using PP as much as possible or leaving money in my PP account.
And I’m thinking; maybe I can fund you again. This is going to be totally different from proxy shipping. There is no time sensitive stuff involved. Going forward most of my parts are generic electronics and going to come from China anyway, and if there is something that is time sensitive, we’ll talk about it first to make sure you can send it in timely fashion.
I want to support your Model F efforts (I see WCass’ project coming along well) and I want to support your Hall Effect plans. How about I just treat all future sales I make as ‘donations’ to Dorkvader? I’ll just tell people to pay by gift to you. It’ll just be a load of small sums over the next year or two coming from my keycaps, stabilzers, spare parts and switches.
If your projects are unsuccessful, no worries. Donators everywhere are aware that the causes they give money to are not always successful. If you have success, you know what to do. Send me working prototypes, or something from your first production run, give a discount when you do produce that Hall Effect keyboard, whatever you think is fair.