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Offline amaddo

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Travelers who continue to seek END GAME,
welcome to the IC thread of "Karat WKL".



This project is designed by Amaddo and manufactured by ALF. I will not forget the gratitude to ALF.

If you are attracted to this gem, leave a message here. That will bring this project one step closer to success.









support layout


color rendar

black

gray

silver

white

burgundy

navy blue

cyan

green

purple

brown

pink

polycarbonate

wood


The color obtained in the questionnaire survey render
orange

red

dark green

yellow

full brass/gold

full brass/rose gold


weight rendar


Details
 WKL
 High Profile
 Top Mount
 9 Degree Angle
 Case Material: Aluminium, PC, (Wood, brass)
 Weight Material: Brass
 Plate Material: Brass, PC
 Brass Finish: PVD
 Supports most PCBs
 2kg

Include
 Aluminim Case
 Brass weight and plate
 Screws
 Rubber Foot

Case Color
 I have not decided yet, but I will try to offer you many colors.

Price
 Although I can not say for sure yet, according to ALF's factory, the price of the prototype is $ 200 ~ 230.
 When actually doing GB, it can be lower than the price of the prototype depending on the number of products manufactured.
 (The PC version is expected to be 1.2 to 1.3 times higher than aluminum.)

Schedule
 Ordering prototypes this week.
 It will be manufactured in around 20 days and will be transported internationally.
 It has not been decided until the scheduled GB date, but after the GB of "Uncertainty60" is finished.



Q&A from Google form, Reddit etc...

Q: Proxy?
A: I'm planning to set up a proxy, but please wait as I haven't talked yet.

Q: HHKB Top too please?
A: Sorry, This project is only WKL.

Q: Do you offer a PC model? (Another similar question.)
A: Yes, You can get PC model.

Q: Leave out a PCB to keep costs down.
A: Yes, I have no plans to provide PCBs for this project. Because it is compatible with many 60% PCBs.

Q: I'd like to see some renders with keycaps!
A: Wait, wait.... :'(

Q: I want to put a boardwalk PCB inside. The PCB is GH60-compatible & supports WKL cases. I'll just laser cut my own plates & adapts to this case. A DXF file for cutting plates would be useful.
A: When GB is over, publish using Github etc. (The corner rounding is set to 0.5 mm)

Q: Please list estimated price and date of GB!
A: Wait, wait.... :'(

Q: Would it be a possibility for a version num/macropad edit
A: There is no design plan for the moment.
If there are many such requests, I consider.


Q: How big is the clearance between the case and the switch hole? Because it looks really tight.
A: The distance from the bottom of the plate to the bottom of the case is approximately 8.8 mm. I think there is probably no interference.
↓↓reference image




Update
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IC Form
https://goo.gl/forms/mMW0aIjiyHIeACGD3

I am also working on Twitter, Instagram and so on.
Twitter
https://twitter.com/amaddo_type_A
Instagram
https://www.instagram.com/amaddo_type_a/
« Last Edit: Fri, 19 April 2019, 08:42:11 by amaddo »

Offline vicissitude

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Re: [IC] Karat WKL with ALF studio
« Reply #1 on: Tue, 02 April 2019, 05:55:23 »
Like the shining pvd brass weight and plate.

Offline amaddo

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Re: [IC] Karat WKL with ALF studio
« Reply #2 on: Tue, 02 April 2019, 08:19:46 »
I just asked an ALF representative if the PC version could be manufactured.
I want to provide it, because the demand for the PC version is increasing.

Offline Chewwy

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Re: [IC] Karat WKL with ALF studio
« Reply #3 on: Tue, 02 April 2019, 08:22:42 »
I missed out on the Leaf 60 WKL and want a better WKL board. Very excited to see this board make it to GB.

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Offline amaddo

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Re: [IC] Karat WKL with ALF studio
« Reply #4 on: Tue, 02 April 2019, 08:41:03 »
I just received a reply.
The PC version can be provided.
However, it is expected to be 1.2 to 1.3 times higher than aluminum plate.

Offline equalunique

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Re: [IC] Karat WKL with ALF studio
« Reply #5 on: Tue, 02 April 2019, 09:14:08 »
Looks good to me. Hoping I can cut a custom plate for it & put in a boardwalk PCB.

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Offline amaddo

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Re: [IC] Karat WKL with ALF studio
« Reply #6 on: Tue, 02 April 2019, 09:55:43 »
In ALF's Discord, I realized that the split space bar is important. Fix the plate.
Also, plate data will be released after the end of GB.

Offline equalunique

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Re: [IC] Karat WKL with ALF studio
« Reply #7 on: Tue, 02 April 2019, 10:05:15 »


Also, plate data will be released after the end of GB.

 Fantastic, thank you!!


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Re: [IC] Karat WKL with ALF studio
« Reply #8 on: Tue, 02 April 2019, 11:15:12 »
In ALF's Discord, I realized that the split space bar is important. Fix the plate.
Also, plate data will be released after the end of GB.

out of curiosity, how is space normally split on a WKL?

Offline azulyf

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Re: [IC] Karat WKL with ALF studio
« Reply #9 on: Tue, 02 April 2019, 12:32:15 »
Like the board,but want a standard layout.

Offline bball2

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Re: [IC] Karat WKL with ALF studio
« Reply #10 on: Tue, 02 April 2019, 12:41:05 »
Red case, blue plate, and the Superman logo engraved on the brass weight  :thumb:

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Re: [IC] Karat WKL with ALF studio
« Reply #11 on: Tue, 02 April 2019, 13:14:35 »
> alf studio

i'm out
QFR | MJ2 TKL | "Schumiboard" | "Bulgogiboard" (Keycon 104) | MIRA SE | TGR Alice | Southpaw Fullsize (pending shipping) | Daily driver: TGR Alice

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Offline maximize

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Re: [IC] Karat WKL with ALF studio
« Reply #12 on: Tue, 02 April 2019, 14:19:44 »

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Re: [IC] Karat WKL with ALF studio
« Reply #13 on: Tue, 02 April 2019, 14:24:09 »
> alf studio

i'm out

Damnit, man.  I can no longer decipher truthiness in your posts.  Serious or no?  Did I miss something?  Plus, again... you're out of funds.  We KNOW you're out.
:)

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Re: [IC] Karat WKL with ALF studio
« Reply #14 on: Tue, 02 April 2019, 15:31:07 »
The Brutal60 chamfer and the angled back are a weird but interesting combo in my opinion.

Also for an "endgame" keyboard, you expect to see features like a shaped USB cutout and extra attention to detail on the plate, like relief cuts or asymmetric mount points. Obviously nothing wrong with omitting them, but given the current state of keyboard design I don't think you can call it "endgame" unless you're planning to go above and beyond what's come to be standard.

That said, I'm sure the quality will be high and whoever buys it will enjoy it.

Offline amaddo

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Re: [IC] Karat WKL with ALF studio
« Reply #15 on: Tue, 02 April 2019, 20:57:53 »
The Brutal60 chamfer and the angled back are a weird but interesting combo in my opinion.

Also for an "endgame" keyboard, you expect to see features like a shaped USB cutout and extra attention to detail on the plate, like relief cuts or asymmetric mount points. Obviously nothing wrong with omitting them, but given the current state of keyboard design I don't think you can call it "endgame" unless you're planning to go above and beyond what's come to be standard.

That said, I'm sure the quality will be high and whoever buys it will enjoy it.

I devise every detail to give you a satisfying keyboard.

Offline amaddo

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Re: [IC] Karat WKL with ALF studio
« Reply #16 on: Tue, 02 April 2019, 21:03:24 »
I discussed the space bar on ALF's Discord server.
As a result, I thought that such a layout was the best.

Offline amaddo

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Re: [IC] Karat WKL with ALF studio
« Reply #17 on: Tue, 02 April 2019, 22:45:37 »
I made some changes to the USB part.
It is Klippe of MKANISK which made reference

« Last Edit: Tue, 02 April 2019, 23:38:38 by amaddo »

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Re: [IC] Karat WKL with ALF studio
« Reply #18 on: Tue, 02 April 2019, 23:12:40 »
> alf studio

i'm out

Damnit, man.  I can no longer decipher truthiness in your posts.  Serious or no?  Did I miss something?  Plus, again... you're out of funds.  We KNOW you're out.

ALF GBs are riddled with delays and quality issues, too many boards not enough factory
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Offline dimo

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Re: [IC] Karat WKL with ALF studio
« Reply #19 on: Wed, 03 April 2019, 00:28:36 »
Another uneffortful 60% ic. Complete lack of design.

Gigantic weight could have been incorporated in the back in a myriad of different ways but its just flat and boring.

+ alf

Offline amaddo

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Re: [IC] Karat WKL with ALF studio
« Reply #20 on: Wed, 03 April 2019, 01:17:45 »
What do you think if a PCB with a USB hub function like HHKB exists as an option?
(It is still a fictional)

Offline equalunique

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Re: [IC] Karat WKL with ALF studio
« Reply #21 on: Wed, 03 April 2019, 08:04:11 »
What do you think if a PCB with a USB hub function like HHKB exists as an option?
(It is still a fictional)
Sounds interesting but can that be a configuration option users can choose vs. a normal GH60-compatible PCB like with the ALF x Scott G60?

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Offline amaddo

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Re: [IC] Karat WKL with ALF studio
« Reply #22 on: Thu, 04 April 2019, 06:52:02 »
What do you think if a PCB with a USB hub function like HHKB exists as an option?
(It is still a fictional)
Sounds interesting but can that be a configuration option users can choose vs. a normal GH60-compatible PCB like with the ALF x Scott G60?

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That is a difficult place.
Therefore, we also consider providing two types of models.
1: A model corresponding to a generally popular PCB (GH60, GK64, etc.) without drilling a hole for USB in the case. However, PCB is sold separately
2: A model in which the case is made with a hole for USB and the corresponding PCB is attached to the kit

Offline amaddo

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Re: [IC] Karat WKL with ALF studio
« Reply #23 on: Thu, 04 April 2019, 23:25:27 »
Fix the plate

Offline amaddo

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Re: [IC] Karat WKL with ALF studio
« Reply #24 on: Sun, 07 April 2019, 01:03:14 »
Currently, ALF staff works hard to meet my hopes.
If he could do that, I might be able to offer you a more attractive keyboard.

Offline kabel1337

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Re: [IC] Karat WKL with ALF studio
« Reply #25 on: Thu, 11 April 2019, 15:10:25 »
I'm very interested in the board but I feel like a lot of people would appreciate a gasket mounted plate and maybe a more interesting weight design because it does look really bland and without any depth to it right now.

Offline amaddo

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Re: [IC] Karat WKL with ALF studio
« Reply #26 on: Fri, 12 April 2019, 02:11:33 »
I now want to provide wood models in addition to aluminum models and PC versions. I think trees are beautiful, but many high-end keyboards do not have models using trees.
At the time of Carat WKL's design, it was planned to provide a case using wood, but the ALF plant could not be manufactured with wood. However, ALF's Sirusu is looking for this keyboard factory.

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Re: [IC] Karat WKL with ALF studio
« Reply #27 on: Fri, 12 April 2019, 16:30:16 »
I now want to provide wood models in addition to aluminum models and PC versions. I think trees are beautiful, but many high-end keyboards do not have models using trees.
At the time of Carat WKL's design, it was planned to provide a case using wood, but the ALF plant could not be manufactured with wood. However, ALF's Sirusu is looking for this keyboard factory.

I did not know the Sirius was going to have a wood option.  I knew about the POM version.  interesting
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Offline amaddo

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Re: [IC] Karat WKL with ALF studio add new color rendar
« Reply #28 on: Sun, 14 April 2019, 01:59:33 »
add new rendar.

Offline hyppialonso

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Re: [IC] Karat WKL with ALF studio (add new color rendar)
« Reply #29 on: Sun, 14 April 2019, 06:18:46 »
looking good, really interested

Offline roguesystem087

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Re: [IC] Karat WKL with ALF studio (add new color rendar)
« Reply #30 on: Sun, 14 April 2019, 12:20:52 »
omg... I think this will finally be my first GB keyboard kit.... omg pls make

Offline bukowski

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Re: [IC] Karat WKL with ALF studio (add new color rendar)
« Reply #31 on: Mon, 15 April 2019, 07:54:55 »
I would buy the full brass-version in an instant.

Offline amaddo

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Re: [IC] Karat WKL with ALF studio (add new color rendar)
« Reply #32 on: Mon, 15 April 2019, 09:20:19 »
I answered questions from Google forms and Reddit. Questions that have similar content are answered collectively.

Also, thank you to those who appreciate this keyboard, those who support me, and those who give me an opinion!! ;D

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Re: [IC] Karat WKL with ALF studio (add new color rendar)
« Reply #33 on: Mon, 15 April 2019, 10:02:07 »
Just as I was looking for cases to use my extra DZ60 for, this one popped up at a perfect time!!  :D
Big fan of ALF and WKL!
Take your time, so that I can save up some money!

Offline amaddo

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Re: [IC] Karat WKL with ALF studio (add new color rendar)
« Reply #34 on: Wed, 17 April 2019, 09:57:56 »
I will issue a request to manufacture prototypes in the near future.

Also, as we have important announcements about the wood model, we will make corrections to the main thread shortly.
« Last Edit: Wed, 17 April 2019, 09:59:30 by amaddo »

Offline amaddo

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Re: [IC] Karat WKL with ALF studio (Preparation for prototype production)
« Reply #35 on: Thu, 18 April 2019, 07:48:36 »
The prototype data was submitted to ALF.
Soon production will begin.

Offline KyleUK

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Re: [IC] Karat WKL with ALF studio (Preparation for prototype production)
« Reply #36 on: Mon, 29 April 2019, 05:57:39 »
Chipping in 2 cents after being part of the x1.1 group buy.
I would absolutely stay away from this until Alf and team have resolved the outstanding issues with the current group buys.

The quality control was shocking, my PCB still plays up, and they sent the wrong colour.
These issues have either not been acknowledged at all, or for the scratched brass which they committed to replace the timescales keep slipping and slipping.

To run another group buy is absolutely madness.

I'm happy to update my opinion if the issues are addressed, but right now I will not entertain anything more from this manufacturer.